| Frank de Groot 2004-09-23, 7:08 am |
| "derdrittemann" <derdrittemann2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> Yes. And probably a good reason why only licensed doctors who have
> physically examined their patients should be allowed to recommend its
> usage.
You imbecile.
I get, on a regular basis (not too often though but about a dozen over the
past 4 years) letters that go like this:
"Hi Frank - I know you from sci.med.diseases.lyme. I have been to x-many
LLMD's spend my last money on them - have been deteriorating for many
years - am at the end of my tether - considering suicide - what to do please
help me because I will kill myself".
Well, then I figure out if they really have Lyme or whether they are just
seeking attention.
I ask them to send me scanned test results, ask them which LLMD's they've
seen, their symptom history, their medication history. Invariably, they have
been on the wrong meds. Either symptom-suppressors and no or not enough abx,
or abx. that has no BBB pentration.
Then I try to talk some hope into them, prevent them from committing
suicide. I tell them that there are almost no oral abx. that can reach MIC
in the CNS, and that doxy is the only widely available, cheap, low-risk abx.
that will surely lead to improvement in case of neuroborreliosis. That
becasue they have never been on doxy (or not enough/too short time) that
they will likely improve and that they should try it 2 weeks.
If they improve, I tell them to be very careful in preventing Candidiasis, I
tell them that self-treatment w/o becoming an expert is tantamount to
suicide, etc. I tell them I am not a doctor etc. But by that time they have
experienced horrible herxes and again I needto persuade them not to commit
suicide.
After the herxes, there is strong improvement for the first time in years
and they get new hope.
Then is when all kinds of gratitude comes in, with promises of giving me
money etc. I always refuse.
This is the typical cause of events.
Your suggestion that these people should simply die is an imbecillic and
vile suggestion.
> Interesting. Would you care to elaborate, here?
Why do I have to do your homework, lazy-XXX punk?
(Or you might be a woman, that might very well be the case - who cares)
I have little patience with people that wish death upon innocent sick
people, so this will be my last reply to you.
> I assume you
> understand the Brorson's theory...
I am flattered by your fait in my mental faculties, you dipshit little
freak.
But wher the XXXX did you get the idea that it's a THEORY?? He made
observations. In vitro.
When you want to talk like grownups, at least do your homework.
I invited him for dinner in a restaurant around the corner but he politely
declined.
I later found out he uses a wheelchair so he might have declined because of
that.
> remember correctly there are photos of the cystic forms available on
> the net...spirochetes emerging from them...and that cystic forms of Bb
> have been observed in tissue.
Tell me all about it.
We all have been knowing that for ages.
> What is extremely interesting to me, is that with all the millions
> available in the US for Lyme research, no one seems interested in
> pursuing what is very possibly a vital piece of the Lyme puzzle.
> Wonder why?
Kathleen Dickinson knows the answer. Racketeering.
> So...the Met...the Flagyl is effective in rupturing, dissolving the
> cyst...
Nope.
It seems to degrade structural integrity a little but the main thing is it
paralyzes the flagella (how often do I have to explain this <sigh> ) and w/o
flagella, Bb can't make a cyst. It needs to be able to move about.
Now get it into your thick skull.
> and another abx...(Zithro is what I am using)...is used in the
> effort to kill emerging spirochetes.
That is nonsense.
It has zero CNS penetration so it's tantamount to suicide, long-term.
It also has rather horrendous side effects. It is extremely much more risky
than doxy in many ways.
I tried the stuff and I will NEVER take it any more.
> I have never seen a study that
> suggests that doxy is effective...even at high concentrations...in
> rupturing the cysts.
I wonder what you have read at all, seriously.
Bec. if you would have READ brorson's study, you asswipe sick-people-killing
barbarian, you would have known that cysts that are old (even a few weeks to
months is considered old) are not too viable any more.
Learn to read. It is a useful skill.
> Right now...although it could be a
> coincidence...wax/wane cycle...I feel as if i am the best I have been
> in years.
Good for you.
I have the same on doxy.
The difference is that when I stop doxy, I die.
> Why do you insist this is wrong? Why do you insist that Flagyl won't
> help?
It might help a tiny bit but negligeably.
And it is carcinogenic and extremely increases the risk of invasive
candidiasis.
> why do you think your candidasis is attributable to your use of
> Flagyl/Met?
Fool, I can see you have no scientific background.
Tell me, do you have the SLIGHTEST scientific background??
No you haven't.
Logic + observation my dear.
Flagyl is widely known to be a HUGE risk factor in candidiasis, ESPECIALLY
combined with abx.
Okay. Now, always, when I took Flagyl, I immediately developed a trush that
went away when I stopped Flagyl. When this happens once, you can attribute
it to coincidence. When it happens every time, ten times, the chance of it
being a coincidence reaches zero, oh pathetic anonymous nobody.
> Not calling you a "liar", Frank...just ASKING your OPINION.
No you are being an obnoxious punk.
You may be a 60 y.o. lady with a million dollar in the bank but you still
behave like an obnoxious punk.
And you deserve no more wasted time.
> I don't understand. How is my asking you to explain calling you a
> "liar"? Are we supposed to take the word of "the Frank" without
> question?
No XXXXX. Use your brain. Cunt.
> By the way...I DID notice the other day where you predicted you would
> be able to stop the doxy at some point in the future...according to
> your graphs...but yesterday you indicated your imminenet death in six
> weeks...so I am confused again...
Yes you feebleminded shrimpbrain. Because you are unable to have logical
thoughts.
The first 3 month, I was bedridden completely and could die any moment.
Many visits to the cardiac emergency, once by ambulance. I got abx.
I say "I could die any moment" because I had a pulse in rest of 120, going
to 175 sometimes, in complete rest. My bloodpressure was acutely dangerous,
I could not walk, I could not sleep (I almost died due to lack of sleep, I
did not sleep once for 125 hours - I ended up in the hospital by ambulance).
I balanced on the edge of death for 6 months. After 1 year, I could be w/o
abx. for 2 days w/o deterioration to the point of acute danger (meaning:
stopping of breathing, paralysis of the legs, cardiac arrythmia's).
After 2 years, this doubled to 4 days. After 3 years, it doubled to 8 days.
Now, after 4 years, it has doubled again to 16 days. When I take no doxy for
16 days, I get cessation of the breathing reflex, total inability to sleep,
paralysis of the legs, cardiac arrythmias to the point of fainting or
collapse, etc. etc.
If you know anything about primary school maths, you will understand that my
statement that I will die in 6 weeks w/o treamtent and my assertian that in
4 year I will be able to go for a very long time w/o any treatment, are not
contradictory whatsoever, you imbecile.
Because:
1st year: 2 days w/o abx. possible
2nd year: 4 days
3rd year: 8 days
4th year: 16 days (current situation)
Now, fool, if you would have paid attention, you would have known about
EXTRAPOLATION OF EXPONENTIAL FUNCTIONS.
Here we go extrapolating, you lazyass moron:
5th year: 32 days
6th year: 64 days
7th year: 128 days
8th year: 256 days
So, fool, when I say I am halfway, when I say that in 4 year I can be w/o
abx for 1 year, it is bec. I applied basic scientific methods. It is known
that antibiotic elimination of bacteria follows an exponential function (as
well as their growth does).
Therefore my extrapolation is warranted. I have enough data-points, after 4
years.
My assertion that I will die after 6 weeks is based on 4 years of experience
with what happens when I stop abx, and my sx. when I had the worst sx. What
will happen is 2 weeks of almost no sx., then very rapid escalation. After 3
weeks there will be trouble breathing, sleep apnea, after 1 month I will be
totally unable to sleep and will often struggle for breath, very extreme
tachycardia wil set in, increasing paralysis of the legs, and my estimation
is that it will lead to death to a combination of exhaustion and cardiac
arrest due to ischemia (neurally mediated coronary vasospasms).
Now I don't give 2 cents for your opinion on this - you have proven not to
be able to think - I explain this for the benefit of others.
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