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| Frank de Groot 2004-11-16, 4:30 pm |
| "We signaled a car to stop and when it didn't we opened fire. They were
innocent civilians. We found no weapons, no explosives-nothing. Somehow, and
I have no idea how he could have done it, but one guy got out of the car and
he wasn't badly wounded. He was the brother of one of the men bleeding to
death in the car. He looked at me and asked, 'Why did you kill my brother.
What did he do to you?' There were 30-plus civilians killed over two days at
these checkpoints."
Massey described the chaotic and reckless character of the roadside
checkpoints and the indifference of the military leadership to the culture
of the people that they were there supposedly to help.
"When you put your hand up in the air with a closed fist, in the Marines it
means you want them to stop," he said. "But, as we later learned, it's
actually the international sign of solidarity. It has a totally different
meaning for the Iraqis-to them it was a sign like hello."
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| A_Weisman 2004-11-16, 4:30 pm |
| "Frank de Groot" <franciad@online.no> wrote in message news:<RE2ld.7484$rh1.188273@news2.e.nsc.no>...
> "We signaled a car to stop and when it didn't we opened fire. They were
> innocent civilians. We found no weapons, no explosives-nothing. Somehow, and
> I have no idea how he could have done it, but one guy got out of the car and
> he wasn't badly wounded. He was the brother of one of the men bleeding to
> death in the car. He looked at me and asked, 'Why did you kill my brother.
> What did he do to you?' There were 30-plus civilians killed over two days at
> these checkpoints."
>
> Massey described the chaotic and reckless character of the roadside
> checkpoints and the indifference of the military leadership to the culture
> of the people that they were there supposedly to help.
>
> "When you put your hand up in the air with a closed fist, in the Marines it
> means you want them to stop," he said. "But, as we later learned, it's
> actually the international sign of solidarity. It has a totally different
> meaning for the Iraqis-to them it was a sign like hello."
Again the fact that you provide no attribution for these purported
quotes (which may be valid) detracts from their crediblity.
Clearly I have nothing to do with this and for the record I condemn
the behavior described.
And for the record you're a despicable liar pathetic girlyman bully
and a jerk.
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| A_Weisman 2004-11-20, 11:26 am |
| "Frank de Groot" <franciad@online.no> wrote in message news:<RE2ld.7484$rh1.188273@news2.e.nsc.no>...
> "We signaled a car to stop and when it didn't we opened fire. They were
> innocent civilians. We found no weapons, no explosives-nothing. Somehow, and
> I have no idea how he could have done it, but one guy got out of the car and
> he wasn't badly wounded. He was the brother of one of the men bleeding to
> death in the car. He looked at me and asked, 'Why did you kill my brother.
> What did he do to you?' There were 30-plus civilians killed over two days at
> these checkpoints."
>
> Massey described the chaotic and reckless character of the roadside
> checkpoints and the indifference of the military leadership to the culture
> of the people that they were there supposedly to help.
>
> "When you put your hand up in the air with a closed fist, in the Marines it
> means you want them to stop," he said. "But, as we later learned, it's
> actually the international sign of solidarity. It has a totally different
> meaning for the Iraqis-to them it was a sign like hello."
Again the fact that you provide no attribution for these purported
quotes (which may be valid) detracts from their crediblity.
Clearly I have nothing to do with this and for the record I condemn
the behavior described.
And for the record you're a despicable liar pathetic girlyman bully
and a jerk.
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