Lyme Disease - How to take action against anti-Lyme terrorists, developing story

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How to take action against anti-Lyme terrorists, developing story

Frank de Groot

2004-11-04, 11:08 am

Part 1:

Send a snail mail letter in order to get cooperation in finding the ISP of
the perpetrator:

Google Inc.

E. Bayshore Pkwy

Mountain View CA 94043

United States

Oslo, November 4, 2004

Dear Google,

Someone has used your services in the commission of an alleged crime, and I
would like to have Google's snail mail address of your legal department in
order to present Google with the evidence.

What we require from Google is the address of the ISP of the person who
committed the alleged crime, so we will be able to take legal action against
this person(s).

Please reply at your earliest convenience, the crime involves several
criminal offences, including the public calling for assassination
of a specific person.

I respectfully ask a quick response because if someone complies with this
public call for assassination, and Google has delayed a response, then
Google itself has become partly responsible for such an outcome.

Best regards,

Frank de Groot
Hegdehaugsveien 21
0352 Oslo
Norway
franciad@online.no
tel. +0047 98680219

A_Weisman

2004-11-04, 7:12 pm

"Frank de Groot" <franciad@online.no> wrote in message news:<e5rid.5241$rh1.153804@news2.e.nsc.no>...
> Part 1:
>
> Send a snail mail letter in order to get cooperation in finding the ISP of
> the perpetrator:
>
>
>
>
>
> Google Inc.
>
> E. Bayshore Pkwy
>
> Mountain View CA 94043
>
> United States
>
>
>
> Oslo, November 4, 2004
>
>
>
>
>
> Dear Google,
>
>
> Someone has used your services in the commission of an alleged crime, and I
> would like to have Google's snail mail address of your legal department in
> order to present Google with the evidence.
>
> What we require from Google is the address of the ISP of the person who
> committed the alleged crime, so we will be able to take legal action against
> this person(s).
>
>
> Please reply at your earliest convenience, the crime involves several
> criminal offences, including the public calling for assassination
> of a specific person.
>
>
> I respectfully ask a quick response because if someone complies with this
> public call for assassination, and Google has delayed a response, then
> Google itself has become partly responsible for such an outcome.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
>
>
> Frank de Groot
> Hegdehaugsveien 21
> 0352 Oslo
> Norway
> franciad@online.no
> tel. +0047 98680219

Dear Department of Homeland Security:

The above named individual at the above address and telephone number
has repeatedly made terrorist threats concerning bombs and
thermonuclear devices aimed at the United States and US Citizens. He
has also issued threats of violence and death repeatedly in the past.

Please protect us from him and his terrorist friends.

Thanks!

A Weisman
From the Good Ole USA

cc: FBI, Interpol, CIA, ATF

Frank de Groot

2004-11-04, 10:08 pm

"A_Weisman" <a_weisman@yahoo.com> wrote in message

Dear Nazi Weisman,

A kind warning is not a threat (you moron).
In fact I happen to be pretty accurate (me following the media and all).
So I should bill the dept. of homeland security for my efforts.

Ya friggin' moron.

derdrittemann

2004-11-05, 7:10 pm

"Frank de Groot" <franciad@online.no> wrote in message news:<N4Bid.5366$rh1.155378@news2.e.nsc.no>...
> "A_Weisman" <a_weisman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> Dear Nazi Weisman,
>
> A kind warning is not a threat (you moron).
> In fact I happen to be pretty accurate (me following the media and all).
> So I should bill the dept. of homeland security for my efforts.
>
> Ya friggin' moron.

Grow up, Frank.

A_Weisman

2004-11-05, 7:10 pm

"Frank de Groot" <franciad@online.no> wrote in message news:<N4Bid.5366$rh1.155378@news2.e.nsc.no>...
> "A_Weisman" <a_weisman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> Dear Nazi Weisman,

Frank you're the one who has expressed admiration for the nazis not
me.

By the way you freaking terrorist, if you think (I use the word
loosely and generously) that statements made about YOU give rise to a
libel suit which has value you are wrong. You have no reputation that
is damaged--everyone thinks you're a terrorist because of your own
statements. No american jury would have any sympathy for someone who
has expressed such disdain hatred and contempt for America much less
made terorristic threats to the country and threats of violence to
individuals on repeated occasions, someone like you who calls women
"cunts" etc.

Not only that but for each statement I've made about you (and truth is
a defense) you've made a dozen about me and others.

So go ahead and stop boring us with your repeated and empty threats
and do what you will.

PS: Your commercial insurance company would have nothing to do with
statments made about you as an individual and wouldn't pay for the
costs of a suit you bring against others, only for suits brought
against your company, not against you personally. Moron.

> A kind warning is not a threat (you moron).

A "kind warning" of thermonuclear war? If that wasn't such an
outrageous lie, and the threat weren't so drastic, it might be funny.

I guess you consider Osama's threats to be "kind warnings" too?

I guess you and he will also invoke the First Amendment?

Good luck terrorist.

NOT!

> In fact I happen to be pretty accurate (me following the media and all).

I guess you have some inside information from your terrorist buddies,
proving the point that you're one of them?

I guess your views of the United States justify in your "mind" the
responses of threats and attacks? Good luck arguing that to an
American jury.

You think I'm from New York? LOL Good luck arguing that to a jury in
New York. Down the street in a courthouse not too far from the site of
the World Trade Center.

Yeah you stand a snowball's chance in hell/\.

Plus I'm happy to bring in all the statements you've made about
America, admiring the terrorists, admiring the terrorists who shot
children in the back in Beslan, applauding 9/11, expressing your
hatred for America. Not to mention all your death threats, and nasty
comments to individuals.

Jerk.

> So I should bill the dept. of homeland security for my efforts.

Ok go ahead. Good luck. I'm sure you'll be getting a visit from them.
Go ahead and prepare your bill and you can give it to them.

Better make it Net NEVER because your chances of them paying you are
about as good as your chances in front of a jury in a libel case.

LOL

> Ya friggin' moron.

You pathetic jerkoff.

Frank de Groot

2004-11-05, 7:10 pm

"A_Weisman" <a_weisman@yahoo.com> wrote in message

Hi, putzy schmuck schlemiel.

> individuals on repeated occasions, someone like you who calls women
> "cunts" etc.

I did not call women cunts, XXXXX.
I called a specific woman a cunt.
To generalize this to 3 billion womane is a bit over the top.

> Not only that but for each statement I've made about you (and truth is
> a defense) you've made a dozen about me and others.

I haven't.
Legally, on Usenet, you don't exist bec. you're anonymous.

Oh, and a citizen of a banana-republic too:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2004/11/3/53438/6175

> PS: Your commercial insurance company would have nothing to do with
> statments made about you as an individual and wouldn't pay for the
> costs of a suit you bring against others, only for suits brought
> against your company, not against you personally. Moron.

That's not what it says in the small print.
Some legal expenses will be paid as long as I win the case (in case I start
a case).
But you will be XXXXed up pretty bad, don't you worry.

> A "kind warning" of thermonuclear war? If that wasn't such an
> outrageous lie, and the threat weren't so drastic, it might be funny.

Would you have preferred people to stay silent when the whole world sees the
writing on the wall?

> I guess you consider Osama's threats to be "kind warnings" too?

No, it looks like he is threatening.
The difference is that he will be instrumental (at least as spiritual
leader) in the execution of the threats, whereas I, you moron, will not
start a thermonuclear war against you Nazi's.

> I guess you and he will also invoke the First Amendment?

I am not too familiar with your stupid laws and petty banana-republic rules.

> I guess your views of the United States justify in your "mind" the
> responses of threats and attacks? Good luck arguing that to an
> American jury.

In my mind, the United States is on a rabid suicide mission, trying to
achieve world domination in a world of 97% hostile foreigners.

We will see what happens. I am a neutral bystander.
I fear that when nukes start a-popping in NYC, DC and LA, there will be
stricter restrictions on mail deliveries and such here and I would hate
that.

> You think I'm from New York? LOL Good luck arguing that to a jury in
> New York.

No fool. Your postings come from New York.

> Plus I'm happy to bring in all the statements you've made about
> America, admiring the terrorists, admiring the terrorists who shot
> children in the back in Beslan,

Show me where I admired the people who shot kids in the back in Beslan.
You make it harder and harder on yourself, fool.

> applauding 9/11, expressing your
> hatred for America. Not to mention all your death threats, and nasty
> comments to individuals.

Show us where I made a death threat or shut your filthy trap, punk.

> Ok go ahead. Good luck. I'm sure you'll be getting a visit from them.
> Go ahead and prepare your bill and you can give it to them.

O ye stupid rambling XXXX. You amuse me. Tomorrow I'll post that letter and
we'll start the course on "how to expose Usenet trolls and teach them a
lesson".

A_Weisman

2004-11-05, 7:10 pm

"Frank de Groot" <franciad@online.no> wrote in message news:<e5rid.5241$rh1.153804@news2.e.nsc.no>...
> Part 1:

Developing story LOL

Part 1 Frank is a full of crap ahole terrorist.

Part 2 See part 1

Part 3 See parts 1 & 2

Part 4 etc

Important note: don't hold your breath while this story "develops"
frank has threatened legal action as many times as he has said stupid
things

Meaning too many times to count.

Nothing has happened because (see #1)

LOL ROTFL LMAO AT YOU FRANK AND YOUR EMPTY MEANINGLESS NONSENSE
THREATS

Go get a life you terrorist ahole jerkoff

>
> Send a snail mail letter in order to get cooperation in finding the ISP of
> the perpetrator:
>
>
>
>
>
> Google Inc.
>
> E. Bayshore Pkwy
>
> Mountain View CA 94043
>
> United States
>
>
>
> Oslo, November 4, 2004
>
>
>
>
>
> Dear Google,
>
>
> Someone has used your services in the commission of an alleged crime, and I
> would like to have Google's snail mail address of your legal department in
> order to present Google with the evidence.
>
> What we require from Google is the address of the ISP of the person who
> committed the alleged crime, so we will be able to take legal action against
> this person(s).
>
>
> Please reply at your earliest convenience, the crime involves several
> criminal offences, including the public calling for assassination
> of a specific person.
>
>
> I respectfully ask a quick response because if someone complies with this
> public call for assassination, and Google has delayed a response, then
> Google itself has become partly responsible for such an outcome.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
>
>
>
>
> Frank de Groot
> Hegdehaugsveien 21
> 0352 Oslo
> Norway
> franciad@online.no
> tel. +0047 98680219

A_Weisman

2004-11-07, 7:08 pm

"Frank de Groot" <franciad@online.no> wrote in message news:<N4Bid.5366$rh1.155378@news2.e.nsc.no>...
> "A_Weisman" <a_weisman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> Dear Nazi Weisman,

Frank you're the one who has expressed admiration for the nazis not
me.

By the way you freaking terrorist, if you think (I use the word
loosely and generously) that statements made about YOU give rise to a
libel suit which has value you are wrong. You have no reputation that
is damaged--everyone thinks you're a terrorist because of your own
statements. No american jury would have any sympathy for someone who
has expressed such disdain hatred and contempt for America much less
made terorristic threats to the country and threats of violence to
individuals on repeated occasions, someone like you who calls women
"cunts" etc.

Not only that but for each statement I've made about you (and truth is
a defense) you've made a dozen about me and others.

So go ahead and stop boring us with your repeated and empty threats
and do what you will.

PS: Your commercial insurance company would have nothing to do with
statments made about you as an individual and wouldn't pay for the
costs of a suit you bring against others, only for suits brought
against your company, not against you personally. Moron.

> A kind warning is not a threat (you moron).

A "kind warning" of thermonuclear war? If that wasn't such an
outrageous lie, and the threat weren't so drastic, it might be funny.

I guess you consider Osama's threats to be "kind warnings" too?

I guess you and he will also invoke the First Amendment?

Good luck terrorist.

NOT!

> In fact I happen to be pretty accurate (me following the media and all).

I guess you have some inside information from your terrorist buddies,
proving the point that you're one of them?

I guess your views of the United States justify in your "mind" the
responses of threats and attacks? Good luck arguing that to an
American jury.

You think I'm from New York? LOL Good luck arguing that to a jury in
New York. Down the street in a courthouse not too far from the site of
the World Trade Center.

Yeah you stand a snowball's chance in hell/\.

Plus I'm happy to bring in all the statements you've made about
America, admiring the terrorists, admiring the terrorists who shot
children in the back in Beslan, applauding 9/11, expressing your
hatred for America. Not to mention all your death threats, and nasty
comments to individuals.

Jerk.

> So I should bill the dept. of homeland security for my efforts.

Ok go ahead. Good luck. I'm sure you'll be getting a visit from them.
Go ahead and prepare your bill and you can give it to them.

Better make it Net NEVER because your chances of them paying you are
about as good as your chances in front of a jury in a libel case.

LOL

> Ya friggin' moron.

You pathetic jerkoff.

A_Weisman

2004-11-09, 7:10 pm

"Frank de Groot" <franciad@online.no> wrote in message news:<N4Bid.5366$rh1.155378@news2.e.nsc.no>...
> "A_Weisman" <a_weisman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> Dear Nazi Weisman,

Frank you're the one who has expressed admiration for the nazis not
me.

By the way you freaking terrorist, if you think (I use the word
loosely and generously) that statements made about YOU give rise to a
libel suit which has value you are wrong. You have no reputation that
is damaged--everyone thinks you're a terrorist because of your own
statements. No american jury would have any sympathy for someone who
has expressed such disdain hatred and contempt for America much less
made terorristic threats to the country and threats of violence to
individuals on repeated occasions, someone like you who calls women
"cunts" etc.

Not only that but for each statement I've made about you (and truth is
a defense) you've made a dozen about me and others.

So go ahead and stop boring us with your repeated and empty threats
and do what you will.

PS: Your commercial insurance company would have nothing to do with
statments made about you as an individual and wouldn't pay for the
costs of a suit you bring against others, only for suits brought
against your company, not against you personally. Moron.

> A kind warning is not a threat (you moron).

A "kind warning" of thermonuclear war? If that wasn't such an
outrageous lie, and the threat weren't so drastic, it might be funny.

I guess you consider Osama's threats to be "kind warnings" too?

I guess you and he will also invoke the First Amendment?

Good luck terrorist.

NOT!

> In fact I happen to be pretty accurate (me following the media and all).

I guess you have some inside information from your terrorist buddies,
proving the point that you're one of them?

I guess your views of the United States justify in your "mind" the
responses of threats and attacks? Good luck arguing that to an
American jury.

You think I'm from New York? LOL Good luck arguing that to a jury in
New York. Down the street in a courthouse not too far from the site of
the World Trade Center.

Yeah you stand a snowball's chance in hell/\.

Plus I'm happy to bring in all the statements you've made about
America, admiring the terrorists, admiring the terrorists who shot
children in the back in Beslan, applauding 9/11, expressing your
hatred for America. Not to mention all your death threats, and nasty
comments to individuals.

Jerk.

> So I should bill the dept. of homeland security for my efforts.

Ok go ahead. Good luck. I'm sure you'll be getting a visit from them.
Go ahead and prepare your bill and you can give it to them.

Better make it Net NEVER because your chances of them paying you are
about as good as your chances in front of a jury in a libel case.

LOL

> Ya friggin' moron.

You pathetic jerkoff.

Frank de Groot

2004-11-09, 7:10 pm

Google responded already, even though I forgot to send the letter.
Very good. Things move faster than I had expected.

I keep people updated on how things develop from here (what happens is,
Google is legally obliged to provide me with the IP- & ISP info of the
criminal, info with which I can discover who the criminal is by in turn
obliging them to hand over their data). The lawsuit(s) becomes possible from
that point onwards, as is other action aimed at preventing the criminal from
acting out the threat of assasination.

-----

Hi Frank,

Thank you for your note. It would be helpful if you could provide us with
additional information, including the nature of the alleged crime and the
specific message IDs of the Google Groups posts in question. To locate the
message ID, please click on the link called 'Original Format' that will
appear beside the header (above the body) of the article in question.
After clicking this link, you will be taken to a text version of the
article that contains in-depth header information. Please find the line
called 'Message-ID' and copy and paste the content of that line (the
information between brackets) into your response.

We appreciate your patience and cooperation.

Regards,
The Google Team

A_Weisman

2004-11-09, 10:07 pm

"Frank de Groot" <franciad@online.no> wrote in message news:<01ckd.6429$Km6.163981@news4.e.nsc.no>...
> Google responded already, even though I forgot to send the letter.

LOL I guess they read your "mind" ?

> Very good. Things move faster than I had expected.

ROTFL

> I keep people updated on how things develop from here (what happens is,
> Google is legally obliged to provide me with the IP- & ISP info of the
> criminal, info with which I can discover who the criminal is by in turn
> obliging them to hand over their data).

Well that is not a correct statement of the law you moron.

Google is obligated to provide you exactly nothing at all.

Except if you use an enforceable subpoena. Emphasize "enforceable."
Meaning that you are not permitted to go on fishing expeditions and
you have to have some basis for waht you're doing or trying to do
legally.

In fact if Google were to provide you with the information based on a
simple (and I might add totally baseless) request, they would be
violating their own privacy policy.

>The lawsuit(s) becomes possible from
> that point onwards, as is other action aimed at preventing the criminal from
> acting out the threat of assasination.

There was no threat of assasination you XXXXXXX.

On the other hand thanks for providing the roadmap so that everyone
here can take action against YOU for your repeated threats of violence
and assasination as well as terrorist acts.

Stupid frickin terrorist.

> -----
>
> Hi Frank,
>
> Thank you for your note. It would be helpful if you could provide us with
> additional information, including the nature of the alleged crime and the
> specific message IDs of the Google Groups posts in question. To locate the
> message ID, please click on the link called 'Original Format' that will
> appear beside the header (above the body) of the article in question.
> After clicking this link, you will be taken to a text version of the
> article that contains in-depth header information. Please find the line
> called 'Message-ID' and copy and paste the content of that line (the
> information between brackets) into your response.
>
> We appreciate your patience and cooperation.
>
> Regards,
> The Google Team

Nice automated form letter. LOL

Boy when they get the requested message IDs and look at them they'll
be ROTFL LOL since there is nothing that could reasonably be
interpreted as a threat of assasination or any other crime.

The fact that you claim that defamation is a "crime" in your failed
home state is meaningless as there was no defamation and defamation is
no crime in the United States.

Moron.

Plus the fact is that you ARE a frickin terrorist and have repeatedly
made terroristic threats, threats to individuals and to the US in
general. And applauded the terrorist attacks on the US/9/11 and those
cowards who shot innocent children in the back at Beslan.

Deny it all you want, everyone has caught your act.

So please keep us updated on this developing non story.

LOL ROTFL LMAO

At least you're ridiculous fantasies are a bit amusing now.

Much better than your threats and terrorism which isn't the least bit
amusing. Pathetic and despicable but not amusing.

Frank get a life.

A_Weisman

2004-11-10, 4:08 am

A_Weisman

2004-11-10, 4:08 am

"Frank de Groot" <franciad@online.no> wrote in message news:<01ckd.6429$Km6.163981@news4.e.nsc.no>...
> Google responded already, even though I forgot to send the letter.
> Very good. Things move faster than I had expected.

Hey frank you are one world class XXX!

Tell us about how many times you have threatened litigation against
people. Exactly how many suits have you filed? (zero).

Tell us about all of your reports to the authorities? Or your empty
threats. Resulting in nothing.

Tell us again about how you were accused of child molestation.

Tell us how you spent time in prison. What was the charge in that
case?

Explain to us how your death threat against Allen Steere on this
newsgroup, reported in the New York Times didn't discredit the entire
Lyme community?

Tell us about your mysogynistic comments about women? How you call
them the c word.

Tell us about your anti semitism.

Tell us more about your admiration for terrorists.

Tell us about how you admire the terrorists who shot children in the
back at Beslan.

Tell us about your hatred of the United States. About your admiration
for Sadaam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden.

Tell us about your invention of an efficient mercury gun for mass
killings.

Tell us all about the many death threats and other threats of violence
against specific individuals here on this newsgroup. About your
threats of terrorist acts and mass murder.

Yeah you're a prince frank. A king. A royal XXXXXXX.

Hey f u frank.

Go f yourself ahole.

>
> I keep people updated on how things develop from here (what happens is,
> Google is legally obliged to provide me with the IP- & ISP info of the
> criminal, info with which I can discover who the criminal is by in turn
> obliging them to hand over their data). The lawsuit(s) becomes possible from
> that point onwards, as is other action aimed at preventing the criminal from
> acting out the threat of assasination.
>
> -----
>
> Hi Frank,
>
> Thank you for your note. It would be helpful if you could provide us with
> additional information, including the nature of the alleged crime and the
> specific message IDs of the Google Groups posts in question. To locate the
> message ID, please click on the link called 'Original Format' that will
> appear beside the header (above the body) of the article in question.
> After clicking this link, you will be taken to a text version of the
> article that contains in-depth header information. Please find the line
> called 'Message-ID' and copy and paste the content of that line (the
> information between brackets) into your response.
>
> We appreciate your patience and cooperation.
>
> Regards,
> The Google Team

derdrittemann

2004-11-10, 7:09 am

"Frank de Groot" <franciad@online.no> wrote in message news:<N4Bid.5366$rh1.155378@news2.e.nsc.no>...
> "A_Weisman" <a_weisman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> Dear Nazi Weisman,
>
> A kind warning is not a threat (you moron).
> In fact I happen to be pretty accurate (me following the media and all).
> So I should bill the dept. of homeland security for my efforts.
>
> Ya friggin' moron.

Grow up, Frank.

Frank de Groot

2004-11-10, 7:09 am

A_Weisman

2004-11-10, 7:09 am

Frank de Groot

2004-11-10, 7:09 am

"A_Weisman" <a_weisman@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> Tell us about how many times you have threatened litigation against
> people. Exactly how many suits have you filed? (zero).

I always settled before a suit.
One settlements afforded me a 6-month holiday in a sunny country?

> Tell us about all of your reports to the authorities? Or your empty
> threats. Resulting in nothing.

?? Never done so.

> Tell us again about how you were accused of child molestation.

By you, a week ago. Action is taken.

> Tell us how you spent time in prison. What was the charge in that
> case?

I have been arrested numerous times in war-torn countries.
Often just for speaking a foreign language.
Once I was arrested when I came back over a land border, having smuggled 3
DDR citizens out.
Twice I was arrested because there exists a dangerous drugs smuggler with
the exact same name except the middle initial.

> Explain to us how your death threat against Allen Steere on this
> newsgroup, reported in the New York Times didn't discredit the entire
> Lyme community?

I have never made a threat to Allen Steere. I said he will get fired.

> Tell us about your mysogynistic comments about women? How you call
> them the c word.

Never ever done that.
I called YOU a cunt, cunt.

> Tell us about your anti semitism.

You don't even know the meaning of the word, cunt.
Antisemitism means "hating arabs and jews".

> Tell us more about your admiration for terrorists.

What exactly do you want to know?

> Tell us about how you admire the terrorists who shot children in the
> back at Beslan.

Show me where I said that, or expect a lot more trouble ahead.
I don't know how to put it to you so that you understand, but you might get
into trouble for this kind of bullshit.

I want to point out that you said here: "The Chechens are cowards and their
Allah is bullshit".
People with names ending in "man" are usually jewish. Are you a ZioNazi
Chechen-hater?
You have been relishing the whole thing, haven't you? Several times you have
been commenting on that Beslan thing, like you like the fact that the
Chechens have more trouble now.

The Chechens have even sent, out of their poverty, tens of thousands of USD
to the victims.

So what exacly is it that you have against Chechens, hm?

And what is it that you have against the parents of the killed kids, that
you make their suffering worse like this?

You keep on blabbering about Beslan, Beslan, nobody ever talked about Beslan
but you, what is it EXACTLY that YOU have with Beslan? Are you badmouthing
the Chechens or are you trying to XXXX up the parents of those kids even
MORE than they are already?

I wonder WHO you are, "Weisman". If you are indeed a Jew and you are here
badmouthing the Chechens, you would not want to get your name & address
plastered all over the internet.

Neither if you are trying to make the parents of the kids of Beslan suffer
even more by accusing people of "admiration" for the terrorists of Beslan.
Those people were scum. And Google will have more and more reason to hand me
your ISP's data. You better start packing.

> Tell us about your hatred of the United States. About your admiration
> for Sadaam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden.

I think Saddam Hussein is an XXXXXXX.
I think Osama bin Laden is quite a cool guy.
I hate the United States.

And I am going to let you be severely punished for your lies, slander,
libel, accusation and threats.
And I will show people here how to deal with scum like you.

> Tell us about your invention of an efficient mercury gun for mass
> killings.

The US military does the same. I am a scientist.

> Tell us all about the many death threats and other threats of violence
> against specific individuals here on this newsgroup. About your
> threats of terrorist acts and mass murder.

Never ever did that. Show the proof, fool.

You will get into *real* trouble, punk.
Just have a little patience and take your pills.

derdrittemann

2004-11-16, 4:30 pm

"Frank de Groot" <franciad@online.no> wrote in message news:<01ckd.6429$Km6.163981@news4.e.nsc.no>...
>
> -----
>
> "Hi Frank,
>
> Thank you for your note. It would be helpful if you could provide us with
> additional information, including the nature of the alleged crime and the
> specific message IDs of the Google Groups posts in question".

Sounds like they want to know what CRIME it is that you are talking
about, Frank.

Sounds like they want to see some EVIDENCE of what you are whining
about.

Why don't you tell them? Please be very specific. Please let us all
know what you mean also. We don't want to be committing "CRIMES".

Is it the CRIME of disagreeing with Frank?

Is it the CRIME of "intentional misdiagnosis"?

What?

Frank de Groot

2004-11-16, 4:30 pm

"derdrittemann" <derdrittemann2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> Why don't you tell them? Please be very specific. Please let us all
> know what you mean also. We don't want to be committing "CRIMES".

1. Accusing someone of being a child abuser is libel/slander.

2. Accusing someone of being a terrorist is libel/slander

3. Calling for someone's assassination is not allowed anywhere.

I told Google I preferred to do everything by snail mail and that I wanted
to deal only with their legal dept.

Meantime, evidence against Wiesman is piling up.
I am printing out the posts with full headers, highlight the offending
parts, staple the sheets together and have multiple copies.

Google's legal dept. will get a pack ans I will get Weisman's ISP.

Then the same thing will happen with Weisman's ISP's legal dept.
I have patience.
This needs to be done properly.

Sending Google's "removal" dept. the full headers is unwise.
They have the means to remove the evidence from their servers.
Perhaps they want to do that, as they have been notified that they are
complicit in calling for someone's assasination.
I can't find another reason why they refused to give me their legal dept.'s
address but let me be contacted by their "removal" service instead.

Never mind, I found their corporate address easily.

A_Weisman

2004-11-16, 4:30 pm

"Frank de Groot" <franciad@online.no> wrote in message news:<Gdykd.16017$Km6.168678@news4.e.nsc.no>...
> "derdrittemann" <derdrittemann2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
>
> 1. Accusing someone of being a child abuser is libel/slander.

Libel/slander is NOT a "crime" you stupid XXXXXXX.

And it isn't libel or slander if true.

> 2. Accusing someone of being a terrorist is libel/slander

See above.

And you have REPEATEDLY threatened individuals here which is a
"Terroristic threat." You have also REPEATEDLY expressed admiration
for Osama Bin Laden. ANd other radical islamisists. And made threats
of terrorism towards the United States. And you HATE the United
States.

No US Jury would EVER award you a penny you XXXXXXX.

What is good is that now you've made it easy for us to report you, to
Google and to the Department of Homeland insanity and dutch
authorities. I was surprised that YOU weren't amongst those arrested
the other day but with the growing problem of Dutch terrorists and
your political views admiring terrorists, terrorism and hating the US
and making threats of terrorism repeatedly you'd think that YOU would
want to keep a low profile. Instead you've made yourself an obvious
subject of interest for anti terrorist authorities.

Stupid stupid XXXXXXX.

You'll soon be spending time in a jail cell with a few of your
terrorist heros and buddies.

By the way when I say REPEATEDLY I mean more than once, again and
again, over and over, as in there is volumes of evidence. Everyone
here knows it and has seen it.

> 3. Calling for someone's assassination is not allowed anywhere.

I never ever called for your assasination. However YOU have done that
REPEATEDLY towards more than one person, including Allen Steere and
others.

Hypocritical terrorist XXXXXXX.

> I told Google I preferred to do everything by snail mail and that I wanted
> to deal only with their legal dept.

I'm sure that was very important to them.

> Meantime, evidence against Wiesman is piling up.

Weisman you stupid jerkoff, not wiesman.

> I am printing out the posts with full headers, highlight the offending
> parts, staple the sheets together and have multiple copies.

LOL ROTFL LMAO

Good frank. Glad to see you have a hobby. Hobbit brain.

> Google's legal dept. will get a pack ans I will get Weisman's ISP.

Fat freaking chance.

> Then the same thing will happen with Weisman's ISP's legal dept.

Fatter freaking chance.

> I have patience.

Perhaps but no you also have no brain and no clue.

> This needs to be done properly.

LOL

> Sending Google's "removal" dept. the full headers is unwise.

LOL

> They have the means to remove the evidence from their servers.
> Perhaps they want to do that, as they have been notified that they are
> complicit in calling for someone's assasination.

LOL

> I can't find another reason why they refused to give me their legal dept.'s
> address but let me be contacted by their "removal" service instead.

LOL

> Never mind, I found their corporate address easily.

Great work sherlock.

Frank go f yourself you freaking ahole.

Frank de Groot

2004-11-16, 4:30 pm

"A_Weisman" <a_weisman@yahoo.com> wrote in message

> Libel/slander is NOT a "crime" you stupid XXXXXXX.

It's illegal and it will be punished.

> And you have REPEATEDLY threatened individuals here which is a
> "Terroristic threat." You have also REPEATEDLY expressed admiration
> for Osama Bin Laden. ANd other radical islamisists. And made threats
> of terrorism towards the United States. And you HATE the United
> States.

Stupid fool, hating the United States is not forbidden yet, moron.

> What is good is that now you've made it easy for us to report you, to
> Google and to the Department of Homeland insanity and dutch
> authorities. I was surprised that YOU weren't amongst those arrested
> the other day but with the growing problem of Dutch terrorists and
> your political views admiring terrorists, terrorism and hating the US
> and making threats of terrorism repeatedly you'd think that YOU would
> want to keep a low profile. Instead you've made yourself an obvious
> subject of interest for anti terrorist authorities.

Fascist intimidation of accusing people of being islamic terrorists won't
work with me, fool.
You may be intimidated by that in Yankeeland, but in the civilized world, we
hate Yankeeland and we laugh about your petty threats. "He hates the USA
he's a terrorist" ROTFL.

> I never ever called for your assasination. However YOU have done that
> REPEATEDLY towards more than one person, including Allen Steere and
> others.

Baloney.
Show a shred of evidence or shut up, NeoCon ZioNazi.

Greatcod

2004-11-16, 4:30 pm

Gee, Frank, I don't know. I have come to admire Weisman-he is sort of
a suicide bomber for the Steere camp. You know, the way he destroys
his self- respect every time he posts, for the greater good of the
Allen and his Yale Grantswine allies. Such self sacrifice.

Frank de Groot

2004-11-16, 4:30 pm

"Greatcod" <Greatcod@Yahoo.com> wrote in message

> Gee, Frank, I don't know. I have come to admire Weisman-he is sort of
> a suicide bomber for the Steere camp. You know, the way he destroys
> his self- respect every time he posts, for the greater good of the
> Allen and his Yale Grantswine allies. Such self sacrifice.

The scum will be neutralized.

derdrittemann

2004-11-16, 4:30 pm

"Frank de Groot" <franciad@online.no> wrote in message news:<Gdykd.16017$Km6.168678@news4.e.nsc.no>...

Well, maybe yes, maybe no...depending on context.
But..."libel/slander" are what we call "torts". Injuries that are
addressed through civil actions for damages.

Libel/slander are NOT..."crimes" punishable by law enforcement.

Wrong.[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> 2. "Accusing someone of being a terrorist is libel/slander".

Same answer as above. As I have said here repeatedly, however, about
98% of what happens here is NOT libel...would most likely NOT be
considered libel in a court of law.

You need to understand that when an accusation is made directly to a
person...rather than to a third person...that rarely invokes
liability.

Having (sorry to say) the exchange here...I doubt very seriously that
anything libelous was said.

Calling someone a "terrorist" is mere namecalling...and although
stupid and childish (but fun)...isn't libel.

>
> 3. "Calling for someone's assassination is not allowed anywhere".

You know...I don't know about this. It is interesting. It would
probably, again, depend on context.

If I say..."I think Calvin should be shot"...there is a big difference
when I say..."I think Calvin should be shot and I will pay Hobbes
$1000 to do it".

I'm not sure the sentiment...the wish alone is enough without
something that would indicate a conspiracy...an act in
furtherance...or some clear incitement to violence.

Not a "crim" guy, myself.
>
>But let's tell the truth here, Frank...what is really going on here
is YOU are trying to abuse the process here so that YOU can intimidate
and threaten...

....you are trying to make FALSE accusations so that you can obtain an
address.

This is a discussion board, Frank.

It was intended to allow exchanges of opinions and ideas.

YOU are trying to shut someone down whose opinion YOU do not agree
with...

....through raw, naked attempts at physical intimidation.

Weisman's big "crime" is that he tells the TRUTH about the "Lyme
activists"...and you don't care to hear it.

You are too wrapped up in your fairytale world of good v. evil and
lack the intellectual sophistication to even consider the reality. You
don't want to know the truth.

You can't handle the truth.

So you blame the messenger. In a rare burst of candor, you once
acknowleged that Kathleen was a "nutcase" and Lisa was "whacko".

Have you considered that when Google starts to look into this...they
will undoubtedly realize what you are up to?

Better watch out that you don't blow your own toes off when you take
aim.

A_Weisman

2004-11-16, 4:30 pm

Greatcod@Yahoo.com (Greatcod) wrote in message news:<caef409e.0411110936.5510aa7b@posting.google.com>...
> Gee, Frank, I don't know. I have come to admire Weisman-he is sort of
> a suicide bomber for the Steere camp. You know, the way he destroys
> his self- respect every time he posts, for the greater good of the
> Allen and his Yale Grantswine allies. Such self sacrifice.

You flaming puss dripping XXXXXXX fishcrapforbrains, why don't you
show us any of the posts that I have written that you find supportive
of Allen Steere or the doctors and scientists that you refer to as his
yale grantswine allies (ignoring the fact that he isn't affiliated
with Yale).

By the way you are a total freaking steaming pile of turds.

And it has come to our attention that YOU ARE MCSWEEGAN

A_Weisman

2004-11-16, 4:30 pm

derdrittemann2003@yahoo.com (derdrittemann) wrote in message news:<f2af2263.0411111045.5a795f@posting.google.com>...
> "Frank de Groot" <franciad@online.no> wrote in message news:<Gdykd.16017$Km6.168678@news4.e.nsc.no>...
>
>
>
>
> Well, maybe yes, maybe no...depending on context.

Of course it also depends on whether it is true or not. Truth is an
absolute defense.

> But..."libel/slander" are what we call "torts". Injuries that are
> addressed through civil actions for damages.

However part of the civil case is DAMAGES. One has to show actual
economic damages in a defamation action. Frank has no actual economic
damages. His reputation has not been harmed. Everyone thought he was
all the things I said before I said them. His business has not been
harmed. So even if something I said was not true, he has no case
anyway.

But who cares? Let him sue me. LOL

> Libel/slander are NOT..."crimes" punishable by law enforcement.
>
> Wrong.

Of course libel/slander are not crimes frank they are considered civil
wrongs not crimes.

>
> Same answer as above. As I have said here repeatedly, however, about
> 98% of what happens here is NOT libel...would most likely NOT be
> considered libel in a court of law.

Of course no court would consider what was said here about frank libel
or slander since it is true and does no harm to him and is part of a
give and take, as sir der points out below, it is mere namecalling.
Childish perhaps but not actionable.

> You need to understand that when an accusation is made directly to a
> person...rather than to a third person...that rarely invokes
> liability.

Well when it is made in front of other people liability might occur if
all other conditions of the cause of action were met which they are
not.

In this case frank's ridiculous argument is that when HE says someone
is scheduled for termination it means a job action, someone's gonna be
fired; when said about him it is a "death threat."

He can't have it both ways. Either he issued a death threat and is
guilty (and his death threat caused great harm to all of Lymeland) and
no one would reward him for someone saying the same thing to him OR it
isn't a death threat when said by him OR about him.

What an XXXXXXX frank is.

> Having (sorry to say) the exchange here...I doubt very seriously that
> anything libelous was said.

It wasn't libellous because it wasn't libellous not because it
occurred here.

> Calling someone a "terrorist" is mere namecalling...and although
> stupid and childish (but fun)...isn't libel.

Yes exactly right.

> 3. "Calling for someone's assassination is not allowed anywhere".
>
> You know...I don't know about this. It is interesting. It would
> probably, again, depend on context.
>
> If I say..."I think Calvin should be shot"...there is a big difference
> when I say..."I think Calvin should be shot and I will pay Hobbes
> $1000 to do it".

That is a good point. Saying "calvin should be shot" isn't a death
threat nor a call for someone's assasination. Frank has gone further
in calling for the assasination of world leaders he doesn't like.

> I'm not sure the sentiment...the wish alone is enough without
> something that would indicate a conspiracy...an act in
> furtherance...or some clear incitement to violence.

Yes very good point sir der.

> Not a "crim" guy, myself.
> is YOU are trying to abuse the process here so that YOU can intimidate
> and threaten...

As is his modus operandi and always has been. Good point again sir
der. Frank is nasty abusive irrational and a freaking jerk.

> ...you are trying to make FALSE accusations so that you can obtain an
> address.

Which isn't going to happen.

> This is a discussion board, Frank.
>
> It was intended to allow exchanges of opinions and ideas.
>
> YOU are trying to shut someone down whose opinion YOU do not agree
> with...

As usual.

Frank can't stand the heat but thinks he owns the kitchen. He can give
it but he can't take it.

Frank is a big whining crybaby!

> ...through raw, naked attempts at physical intimidation.

Repeatedly he has threatened people with violence and threatened
violence against our country.

> Weisman's big "crime" is that he tells the TRUTH about the "Lyme
> activists"...and you don't care to hear it.

Thanks sir der!

> You are too wrapped up in your fairytale world of good v. evil and
> lack the intellectual sophistication to even consider the reality. You
> don't want to know the truth.

> You can't handle the truth.

Yes the TRUTH is that frank wants me on the wall, he NEEDS me on the
wall. Who's going to defend the country otherwise? Frank? In his pansy
white uniform (and hood)?

LOL

> So you blame the messenger. In a rare burst of candor, you once
> acknowleged that Kathleen was a "nutcase" and Lisa was "whacko".

More than once. He even got in a big fight with lisa or the lisa
impersonator when she suggested that HE was whacko. Talk about the pot
and the freaking insane kettle.

> Have you considered that when Google starts to look into this...they
> will undoubtedly realize what you are up to?

He'll get NOWHERE with them. And I've already sent some of his posts
with threats of violence and terrorism to them so they know exactly
who and what they're dealing with.

LOL

> Better watch out that you don't blow your own toes off when you take
> aim.

Frank would cut his own nose off to spite his ugly face.

Frank de Groot

2004-11-16, 4:30 pm

"A_Weisman" <a_weisman@yahoo.com> wrote in message[vbcol=seagreen]

Irrelevant, fool.
I just need your address.

Google & your ISP are legally obliged to cooperate, whatever bullshit you
write them.

Your transgressions are not nullified by my alledged transgressions,
therefore their obligation remains the same.

Frank de Groot

2004-11-16, 4:30 pm

derdrittemann

2004-11-16, 4:30 pm

"Frank de Groot" <franciad@online.no> wrote in message news:<6p3ld.7499$rh1.188221@news2.e.nsc.no>...
> "A_Weisman" <a_weisman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> "Irrelevant, fool.
> I just need your address".

NO. WRONG, Frank.

Look at your own damn post...#7, here...the alleged Google
response...they are supposedly asking for evidence of an "alleged
CRIME".

The things you have cited here are not "alleged CRIMES" under any
stretch of the imagination.

WRONG.
>
> "Google & your ISP are legally obliged to cooperate, whatever bullshit you
> write them".

WRONG AGAIN.
>
LOL. Good luck with the Google team, there, Frank.

derdrittemann

2004-11-16, 4:30 pm

a_weisman@yahoo.com (A_Weisman) wrote in message news:<e55e6d97.0411120559.6ff4edaf@posting.google.com>...
> derdrittemann2003@yahoo.com (derdrittemann) wrote in message news:<f2af2263.0411111045.5a795f@posting.google.com>...
>
> "However part of the civil case is DAMAGES. One has to show actual
> economic damages in a defamation action. Frank has no actual economic
> damages. His reputation has not been harmed. Everyone thought he was
> all the things I said before I said them. His business has not been
> harmed. So even if something I said was not true, he has no case
> anyway".

Yes. But remember that stuff about the distinction between "per se"
and "per quod"?
(There...secret lawyer-code talk. Knock yourselves out, conspiracy
freaks).

>
> "Well when it is made in front of other people liability might occur if
> all other conditions of the cause of action were met which they are
> not".

Right. That's why I used the word "rarely".
>

"Weisman's big "crime" is that he tells the TRUTH about the "Lyme
>
> Thanks sir der"!

Believe me...my pleasure...and you are 100% right on target about E.L.
and all the damn "action alerts". That is some hilariously funny
stuff. I guess Pataki's e-mail "crashed". LOL.

> "More than once. He even got in a big fight with lisa or the lisa
> impersonator when she suggested that HE was whacko. Talk about the pot
> and the freaking insane kettle".

Yeah...this is the part that sort of amazes me. I guess we are
supposed to be scared of this moronic dipshit...and apparently, he has
enough of an intellect to figure out what a couple of whackjobs K&L
actually are...but then he allows Lisa...apparently...to whip and
tongue-lash his pink-pantied little behind back into political
correctness.

I think he's just Lisa's little frickin' boot-lickin' toadie.

I mean, how am I supposed to be intimidated by a ball-less pansy-XXX
like that?
>
>
> He'll get NOWHERE with them. And I've already sent some of his posts
> with threats of violence and terrorism to them so they know exactly
> who and what they're dealing with.
>
>Google doesn't have the resources to track down and chase all the
people that Frank doesn't care for...it's about 90% of the earth's
population.

A_Weisman

2004-11-16, 4:30 pm

"Frank de Groot" <franciad@online.no> wrote in message
news:<6p3ld.7499$rh1.188221@news2.e.nsc.no>...
> "A_Weisman" <a_weisman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> Irrelevant, fool.
> I just need your address.
>
> Google & your ISP are legally obliged to cooperate, whatever bullshit
you
> write them.

No they're not. They are legally obligated to protect my privacy. I
have committed no crimes nor threatened any. Your paranoia and twisted
and self serving and cowardly interpretations of things
notwithstanding.

Ironicaly you claim that your own statements CLEARLY threatening
violence to individuals and the US are NOT threats, but you interpret
more ambiguous comments as threats?

You are a paranoid coward. And an impotent pathetic girlyman bully.

>By the way I guess that all of your previous claims about being able
to trace people's identities using your "computer skills" were total
bullshit or you could figure it out yourself.

> Your transgressions are not nullified by my alledged transgressions,
> therefore their obligation remains the same.

1. They have no "obligation" to you they DO have one to protect my
privacy.

2. You miss the point. My alleged transgressions if true which they
are not would not "nullify" yours. However, from the standpoint of a
jury they would. No one would reward for arguably having done to you
what you have repeatedly done to others. Especially when you have
CLEARLY done it and I have never done it except if someone adopted
your twisted paranoid and cowardly interpretations. You apparently
don't understand that equity has a role to play in jury awards and
that since you don't come to the table with "clean hands" no one is
going to sympathize with you or reward you. Any american jury would
want to punish YOU not ME! Your continued statements only further
damage you in this regard so keep em coming you fool.

3. Threatening Google isn't going to get you anywhere with them.

Frank YOU are the fool.

A_Weisman

2004-11-16, 4:30 pm

"Frank de Groot" <franciad@online.no> wrote in message news:<Bmokd.6635$Km6.166638@news4.e.nsc.no>...
> "A_Weisman" <a_weisman@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
>
> I always settled before a suit.
> One settlements afforded me a 6-month holiday in a sunny country?

Congratulations. Now we have evidence that you are not only an ahole
but a litigious one.

>
> ?? Never done so.

Repeatedly you have done so. Now we have (more) evidence that you're a
LIAR.

In fact there is a picture of you with your pants actually on fire!

>
> By you, a week ago. Action is taken.

No frank, you've posted before that you were accused of child
molestation. Way before I ever commented and by the way my comment was
only meant to refer to your own reports on the topic.

>
> I have been arrested numerous times in war-torn countries.

Congratulations!

Were you there as a mercenary, a terrorist, or just a tourist in war
torn countries--famous for their tourism (by psychotics).

> Often just for speaking a foreign language.

And other times for ???

> Once I was arrested when I came back over a land border, having smuggled 3
> DDR citizens out.

Were they terrorists too? Part of your cell?

I guess you acted unilaterally rather than through the legal process?
After all frank USES the law but has no respect for it himself.

> Twice I was arrested because there exists a dangerous drugs smuggler with
> the exact same name except the middle initial.

Fascinating.

>
> I have never made a threat to Allen Steere. I said he will get fired.

You said he was scheduled for termination and you would have had no
idea about his job status as you later claimed. Though in a rare
moment of candor at one point you did admit it was a death threat and
said he was a coward for responding to it by hiring guards.

Caught in ANOTHER lie.

>
> Never ever done that.

No you have called more than one woman here the c word long before you
ever for the first time just now called ME the c word.

I definitely want a jury with a lot of women on it!

They'll SURELY be on your side. Maybe I'll get some 9/11 widows and
wives of soldiers in Iraq. THey're sure to love you.

> I called YOU a cunt, cunt.

LOL Ohh that hurts so good.

>
> You don't even know the meaning of the word, cunt.

Yes I know the meaning of the c word.

> Antisemitism means "hating arabs and jews".

It means prejudice against semitic peoples.

And though you LOVE arabs you HATE jews. And have admired Hitler. And
called for the death of jewish children.

You sick nazi bastard!

>
> What exactly do you want to know?

Please tell us how you admire and endorse those who target civillians
for brutal murder, whatever their own cause?

Please tell us how you hate the United States and Americans.

Please tell us why you worship Osama Bin Laden?

Go on tell us a little of your view of the world. Most americans will
just love you when it comes to considering your claims that your
reputation was damaged by any accusation. How you were put into a bad
light and people thought worse of you because of anything said by ME
rather than YOU.

Just like kathleen and lisa you are your own worse enemy.

>
> Show me where I said that, or expect a lot more trouble ahead.

Ohhh I'm so scared of you.

> I don't know how to put it to you so that you understand, but you might get
> into trouble for this kind of bullshit.

Oh thanks for the warning. I thought you were so damned sure, so why
say "might."

> I want to point out that you said here: "The Chechens are cowards and their
> Allah is bullshit".

I never said any such thing.

> People with names ending in "man" are usually jewish.

Your point being what?

> Are you a ZioNazi Chechen-hater?

I don't hate chechens. I understand their grievances with the Russian
government.

I don't approve of or support chechen terrorism.

Killing people in that theater. Or shooting kids in the back.

Do you or don't you condemn those acts frank>?

> You have been relishing the whole thing, haven't you? Several times you have
> been commenting on that Beslan thing, like you like the fact that the
> Chechens have more trouble now.

I think their actions were appalling and despicable.

> The Chechens have even sent, out of their poverty, tens of thousands of USD
> to the victims.

That is admirable.

> So what exacly is it that you have against Chechens, hm?

Where or when did I ever say or imply I have anything against
Chechens?

Unlike YOU, frank, I have nothing against any group of people based on
their race, ethnicity, age, religion, sex or belief system--with the
exception of fools liars assholes and terrorists. Come to think of it,
you are ALL of those things aren't you?

> And what is it that you have against the parents of the killed kids, that
> you make their suffering worse like this?

Gimme a break, they're not reading this, and I've said nothing
offensive to them or about them. I've pointed out that there are those
despicable scumbags like you who won't condemn their murder or their
murderers.

> You keep on blabbering about Beslan, Beslan, nobody ever talked about Beslan
> but you, what is it EXACTLY that YOU have with Beslan? Are you badmouthing
> the Chechens or are you trying to XXXX up the parents of those kids even
> MORE than they are already?

First, I didn't mention Beslan on this group first, others did.
Second, I'm not doing etiher in terms of trying to hurt the parents or
badmouth chechens.

That is absurd.

> I wonder WHO you are, "Weisman". If you are indeed a Jew and you are here
> badmouthing the Chechens, you would not want to get your name & address
> plastered all over the internet.

Threat noted recorded archived you racist pig.

> Neither if you are trying to make the parents of the kids of Beslan suffer
> even more by accusing people of "admiration" for the terrorists of Beslan.
> Those people were scum. And Google will have more and more reason to hand me
> your ISP's data. You better start packing.

Go pack yourself XXXXXXX.

FINALLY you've managed to squeak out a condemnation of the terrorist
scum that you otherwise admire. What was it that did it for you, the
fact that they murdered kids in a cowardly fashion shooting them in
the back?

What's the difference between that and targeting of other innocent
civillians?

>
> I think Saddam Hussein is an XXXXXXX.

Why? Because he was a brutal irrational psychotic murderer and
oppressor of his own people?

Or because he was found cowering in a hole?

> I think Osama bin Laden is quite a cool guy.

He's cowering in a hole too. And a brutal sociopathic psychopathic
murderer of innocents.

IF he had any legitimate grievances he lost the right to raise them
when he sunk lower than the level of those he claims grievances
against.

Two wrongs don't make a right. Three thousand wrongs don't make a
right. Tens of thousands of wrongs don't make a right.

You hate bush because he's a murdering religious zealot in your
opinion?

How is Osama any better?

> I hate the United States.

Good we'll just let american jurors know that and that you think Osama
is a "cool guy."

> And I am going to let you be severely punished for your lies, slander,
> libel, accusation and threats.

I've told the truth and you can't handle it. And truth is not slander
(which is spoken not written by the way ignoramus) nor libel nor have
I made any threats and any accusations I've made are TRUE.

> And I will show people here how to deal with scum like you.

LOL We're all waiting.

So far you've shown everyone how to make a fool of yourself. And be a
jerkoff.

Go on teach us more francine.

>
> The US military does the same. I am a scientist.

A scientist? LOL ROTFL LMAO

Even if your self aggrandizing fantasy were true, the issue is your
fantasies of committing mass murder with your "science."

I guess the nazis had some similar type "scientists" working for them.
And sadaam too.

> Tell us all about the many death threats and other threats of
violence
>
> Never ever did that. Show the proof, fool.

You've repeatedly threatened individuals and even made threats of
terrorist acts and mass murder on this very thread you fool.

> You will get into *real* trouble, punk.

Yeah yeah. Lots of talk frank and no action. That's what the girls say
about you too.

> Just have a little patience and take your pills.

I'm patient frank but I'm not going to try to hold my breath until
anything you say actually comes true.

A_Weisman

2004-11-16, 4:30 pm

derdrittemann2003@yahoo.com (derdrittemann) wrote in message news:<f2af2263.0411121231.48ebfa54@posting.google.com>...
> a_weisman@yahoo.com (A_Weisman) wrote in message news:<e55e6d97.0411120559.6ff4edaf@posting.google.com>...
>
> Yes. But remember that stuff about the distinction between "per se"
> and "per quod"?
> (There...secret lawyer-code talk. Knock yourselves out, conspiracy
> freaks).

Yes but no one has commented about frank in a per se fashion unless we
are impugning him in his professional capacity as a terrorist.

I've never commented on him as a computer programmer or whatever he
does to earn a living.

So there's no per se action. Also many jurisdictions don't recognize
per se actions so it depends on what jurisdiction frank would bring
his action in (if there were an action to bring). (and ps: per quod is
antiquated terminology, I don't think you'll find any recent cases
anywhere using the term except perhaps in discussing the history of
defamation as a cause of action).

>
> Right. That's why I used the word "rarely".

Ok rarely as in almost never I guess LOL

> "Weisman's big "crime" is that he tells the TRUTH about the "Lyme
>
> Believe me...my pleasure...and you are 100% right on target about E.L.
> and all the damn "action alerts". That is some hilariously funny
> stuff. I guess Pataki's e-mail "crashed". LOL.

She just makes it up as she goes. Yet another "Drop dead" date has
passed which turns out not to have ever have been.

Amazing that people don't resent being lied to repeatedly and rushing
off on wild snipe hunts on her say so.

I guess short term memory loss makes it possible for people to forget
rather than noticing that the e l cried wolf time and again.

>
> Yeah...this is the part that sort of amazes me. I guess we are
> supposed to be scared of this moronic dipshit...and apparently, he has
> enough of an intellect to figure out what a couple of whackjobs K&L
> actually are...but then he allows Lisa...apparently...to whip and
> tongue-lash his pink-pantied little behind back into political
> correctness.

Amazing isn't it.

> I think he's just Lisa's little frickin' boot-lickin' toadie.

I think he likes being dominated.

> I mean, how am I supposed to be intimidated by a ball-less pansy-XXX
> like that?

He's a girlyboy paintywaist.

> people that Frank doesn't care for...it's about 90% of the earth's
> population.

Not to mention the 98% of the population that doesn't care for frank.

LOL

Sir Der you go! You rock. Frank's a girlyman if there ever was one.

derdrittemann

2004-11-16, 4:30 pm

A_Weisman

2004-11-16, 4:30 pm

"Frank de Groot" <franciad@online.no> wrote in message news:<01ckd.6429$Km6.163981@news4.e.nsc.no>...
> Google responded already, even though I forgot to send the letter.
> Very good. Things move faster than I had expected.

Hey frank you are one world class XXX!

Tell us about how many times you have threatened litigation against
people. Exactly how many suits have you filed? (zero).

Tell us about all of your reports to the authorities? Or your empty
threats. Resulting in nothing.

Tell us again about how you were accused of child molestation.

Tell us how you spent time in prison. What was the charge in that
case?

Explain to us how your death threat against Allen Steere on this
newsgroup, reported in the New York Times didn't discredit the entire
Lyme community?

Tell us about your mysogynistic comments about women? How you call
them the c word.

Tell us about your anti semitism.

Tell us more about your admiration for terrorists.

Tell us about how you admire the terrorists who shot children in the
back at Beslan.

Tell us about your hatred of the United States. About your admiration
for Sadaam Hussein and Osama Bin Laden.

Tell us about your invention of an efficient mercury gun for mass
killings.

Tell us all about the many death threats and other threats of violence
against specific individuals here on this newsgroup. About your
threats of terrorist acts and mass murder.

Yeah you're a prince frank. A king. A royal XXXXXXX.

Hey f u frank.

Go f yourself ahole.

>
> I keep people updated on how things develop from here (what happens is,
> Google is legally obliged to provide me with the IP- & ISP info of the
> criminal, info with which I can discover who the criminal is by in turn
> obliging them to hand over their data). The lawsuit(s) becomes possible from
> that point onwards, as is other action aimed at preventing the criminal from
> acting out the threat of assasination.
>
> -----
>
> Hi Frank,
>
> Thank you for your note. It would be helpful if you could provide us with
> additional information, including the nature of the alleged crime and the
> specific message IDs of the Google Groups posts in question. To locate the
> message ID, please click on the link called 'Original Format' that will
> appear beside the header (above the body) of the article in question.
> After clicking this link, you will be taken to a text version of the
> article that contains in-depth header information. Please find the line
> called 'Message-ID' and copy and paste the content of that line (the
> information between brackets) into your response.
>
> We appreciate your patience and cooperation.
>
> Regards,
> The Google Team

Frank de Groot

2004-11-16, 4:30 pm

derdrittemann

2004-11-18, 11:13 am

derdrittemann

2004-11-18, 11:13 am

A_Weisman

2004-11-20, 11:26 am

A_Weisman

2004-11-20, 11:26 am