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| Martijn 2004-11-04, 7:07 am |
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"Frank de Groot" <franciad@online.no> schreef in bericht
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> "Martijn" <Kw3Ls@hotmal.com> wrote
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> Who cares, or is it important?
It's not important, I was just imagining somone passing by and take a photo
with his phone.
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| Frank de Groot 2004-11-04, 7:07 am |
| "Martijn" <Kw3Ls@hotmal.com> wrote
> It's not important, I was just imagining somone passing by and take a
photo
> with his phone.
Who gives a XXXX!!!
The XXXXXXX is dead, good riddance!
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| Frank de Groot 2004-11-06, 7:07 am |
| "Frank de Groot" <franciad@online.no> wrote
> Who gives a XXXX!!!
> The XXXXXXX is dead, good riddance!
At second thought, having updated myself about this XXXXXXX's words the past
years since I was in exile, he has said a lot of true things. OK, he was an
XXXXXXX, but he was our, Dutch XXXXXXX. OK he was a psychopatic insulting
bastard but I think he said a lot of true things that nobody dared to say
(he also said a lot of bullshit things).
He did not only believe in free speech, he was of the suicidal opinion that
insulting free speech is the only good form of free speech. Unfortunately he
wasn't very clever and therefore did not study the subjects of his insults
first.
I had a similar problem one day when I was in the middle of a desert and I
told a bunch of guys that "I read that Mohammed was a thief and a child
rapist". The reply was: "You will likely be killed this night or the next in
your tent because those guys from the villages, they are furious at you
now". The problem was (I had to explain) that I had just READ this in some
book, not that I personally had that opinion. I was reading everything, the
Koran, the Hadiths etc. and I wanted to know the opinion of the people
around me about the allegations towards their prophet.
They were very reasonable. They said: "Oh.. Why didn't you tell us you READ
it!". Now we will not kill you of course because telling us you READ
something is not the same as INSULTING someone. I came a few times close to
death. Discussing religion in a remote desert area with bedoins and
villagers is a dangerous thing for an outspoken Dutchman. The Dutch have the
propensity for insults. The don't say: "I disagree", they say: "You're an
idiot and it's all bullshit". This will likely get you killed in cultures
that erent extremely rude, like those of the Dutch.
I only am familiar with one other culture that might be as rude, or very
much more rude, than the Dutch. That's the Zionist Entity's / Israel's
culture. But I think they make an exception to insulting the muslim religion
in public. They are rude, but they are not crazy. I have seen Israeli public
officials curse the shit out of senior citizens, I have seen Israeli
busdrivers do the same, but I have never seen Israeli's do things like Theo
van Gogh did. The Dutch do not understand yet that they have to share their
country with a VERY differnet culture. The Dutch have no honor whatsoever.
You can try. Walk up to a random Dutch and say: "Your mother is a whore".
Most Dutch will just shrug and ignore you. Now, the most un-honorable and
funnily the most disrespectful people on the planet (except the Israeli's of
course) have to share their tiny chemically polluted little county with
millions of people with strong "normen & waarden" (norms and values). The
Dutch don't have them but the muslims do. The Dutch are not used to people
having values. So they start to insult them, as this is the only thing the
Dutch understand, insults or appeasement. Appeasement didn't work for them
so now they try insults.
You can insult the scum weisman or the rabidly insane derdritteman without
any consequences whatsoever. They know they are scum.
Insulting people's religion is different. If people here would become
fanatic Weisman-believers, it would become a bad idea to say: "Weisman is a
goatXXXXer". Now, "Weisman is a goatXXXXer" is without risk and it relieves
the soul.
Insulting people's religion just makes them feel bad without any gain for
anyone. People with a religion usually mean it well.
What I think about religion: Very important & useful for the masses.
Annoying for people like me who like to sleep in the mornings and are woken
up by church bells or muezzins. Do I believe in God? Yes I do. But I believe
in a different nature of God than most people do.
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| Martijn 2004-11-06, 11:07 am |
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"Frank de Groot" <franciad@online.no> schreef in bericht
news:K43jd.5617$rh1.161836@news2.e.nsc.no...
> The Dutch have no honor whatsoever.
> You can try. Walk up to a random Dutch and say: "Your mother is a whore".
> Most Dutch will just shrug and ignore you.
I think I would also do that or make some clever reply. Not because I don't
have honor, but because I know that the remark says all about the person
saying it and nothing about my mother.
> Insulting people's religion just makes them feel bad without any gain for
> anyone. People with a religion usually mean it well.
>
> What I think about religion: Very important & useful for the masses.
Religion can be good, but often it's abused and misused and based on books
that aren't that positive as people think or state. The bible is often
called "book of love" and God "God of love". That's in fact what people
want, a religion/philosophy of love and respect. Better start all over again
and write a new book, one that is really a "book of love".
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| Frank de Groot 2004-11-06, 11:07 am |
| "Martijn" <Kw3Ls@hotmal.com> wrote
> want, a religion/philosophy of love and respect. Better start all over
again
> and write a new book, one that is really a "book of love".
Jesus' teachings come pretty close.
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| Frank de Groot 2004-11-10, 2:11 am |
| "Frank de Groot" <franciad@online.no> wrote
> Who gives a XXXX!!!
> The XXXXXXX is dead, good riddance!
At second thought, having updated myself about this XXXXXXX's words the past
years since I was in exile, he has said a lot of true things. OK, he was an
XXXXXXX, but he was our, Dutch XXXXXXX. OK he was a psychopatic insulting
bastard but I think he said a lot of true things that nobody dared to say
(he also said a lot of bullshit things).
He did not only believe in free speech, he was of the suicidal opinion that
insulting free speech is the only good form of free speech. Unfortunately he
wasn't very clever and therefore did not study the subjects of his insults
first.
I had a similar problem one day when I was in the middle of a desert and I
told a bunch of guys that "I read that Mohammed was a thief and a child
rapist". The reply was: "You will likely be killed this night or the next in
your tent because those guys from the villages, they are furious at you
now". The problem was (I had to explain) that I had just READ this in some
book, not that I personally had that opinion. I was reading everything, the
Koran, the Hadiths etc. and I wanted to know the opinion of the people
around me about the allegations towards their prophet.
They were very reasonable. They said: "Oh.. Why didn't you tell us you READ
it!". Now we will not kill you of course because telling us you READ
something is not the same as INSULTING someone. I came a few times close to
death. Discussing religion in a remote desert area with bedoins and
villagers is a dangerous thing for an outspoken Dutchman. The Dutch have the
propensity for insults. The don't say: "I disagree", they say: "You're an
idiot and it's all bullshit". This will likely get you killed in cultures
that erent extremely rude, like those of the Dutch.
I only am familiar with one other culture that might be as rude, or very
much more rude, than the Dutch. That's the Zionist Entity's / Israel's
culture. But I think they make an exception to insulting the muslim religion
in public. They are rude, but they are not crazy. I have seen Israeli public
officials curse the shit out of senior citizens, I have seen Israeli
busdrivers do the same, but I have never seen Israeli's do things like Theo
van Gogh did. The Dutch do not understand yet that they have to share their
country with a VERY differnet culture. The Dutch have no honor whatsoever.
You can try. Walk up to a random Dutch and say: "Your mother is a whore".
Most Dutch will just shrug and ignore you. Now, the most un-honorable and
funnily the most disrespectful people on the planet (except the Israeli's of
course) have to share their tiny chemically polluted little county with
millions of people with strong "normen & waarden" (norms and values). The
Dutch don't have them but the muslims do. The Dutch are not used to people
having values. So they start to insult them, as this is the only thing the
Dutch understand, insults or appeasement. Appeasement didn't work for them
so now they try insults.
You can insult the scum weisman or the rabidly insane derdritteman without
any consequences whatsoever. They know they are scum.
Insulting people's religion is different. If people here would become
fanatic Weisman-believers, it would become a bad idea to say: "Weisman is a
goatXXXXer". Now, "Weisman is a goatXXXXer" is without risk and it relieves
the soul.
Insulting people's religion just makes them feel bad without any gain for
anyone. People with a religion usually mean it well.
What I think about religion: Very important & useful for the masses.
Annoying for people like me who like to sleep in the mornings and are woken
up by church bells or muezzins. Do I believe in God? Yes I do. But I believe
in a different nature of God than most people do.
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| Martijn 2004-11-10, 2:11 am |
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"Frank de Groot" <franciad@online.no> schreef in bericht
news:K43jd.5617$rh1.161836@news2.e.nsc.no...
> The Dutch have no honor whatsoever.
> You can try. Walk up to a random Dutch and say: "Your mother is a whore".
> Most Dutch will just shrug and ignore you.
I think I would also do that or make some clever reply. Not because I don't
have honor, but because I know that the remark says all about the person
saying it and nothing about my mother.
> Insulting people's religion just makes them feel bad without any gain for
> anyone. People with a religion usually mean it well.
>
> What I think about religion: Very important & useful for the masses.
Religion can be good, but often it's abused and misused and based on books
that aren't that positive as people think or state. The bible is often
called "book of love" and God "God of love". That's in fact what people
want, a religion/philosophy of love and respect. Better start all over again
and write a new book, one that is really a "book of love".
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| Frank de Groot 2004-11-10, 2:11 am |
| "Martijn" <Kw3Ls@hotmal.com> wrote
> want, a religion/philosophy of love and respect. Better start all over
again
> and write a new book, one that is really a "book of love".
Jesus' teachings come pretty close.
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| Martijn 2004-11-16, 4:30 pm |
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"Frank de Groot" <franciad@online.no> schreef in bericht
news:K43jd.5617$rh1.161836@news2.e.nsc.no...
> The Dutch have no honor whatsoever.
> You can try. Walk up to a random Dutch and say: "Your mother is a whore".
> Most Dutch will just shrug and ignore you.
I think I would also do that or make some clever reply. Not because I don't
have honor, but because I know that the remark says all about the person
saying it and nothing about my mother.
> Insulting people's religion just makes them feel bad without any gain for
> anyone. People with a religion usually mean it well.
>
> What I think about religion: Very important & useful for the masses.
Religion can be good, but often it's abused and misused and based on books
that aren't that positive as people think or state. The bible is often
called "book of love" and God "God of love". That's in fact what people
want, a religion/philosophy of love and respect. Better start all over again
and write a new book, one that is really a "book of love".
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