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Greg Lewin

2004-10-07, 11:08 am

.... to Lyme disease?

I had an odd bruise-like blotch on my leg, which became a bulls-eye, and
my GP is not interested. He dismisses it as an ordinary insect bite.

(background: this was ~2-3 weeks after being in the Scottish highlands,
very much a deer area). I never saw an obvious tick as it was on the
back of my calf, but there was something odd sticking out of the centre
of the blotch at one point - a sort of thread-like thing.

I'm now feeling a bit crap, and there's still a sort of bruise-like mark
at the original site of the blotch, 2 months on. Admittedly it's the
cold/flu season now, but I'm not happy about this.

Any feedback appreciated -

Greg
zipzip

2004-10-07, 10:07 pm

the scottish highlands are endemic with lyme disease.

i would see another doctor, preferably one who is experienced with
lyme and start at least 3 weeks of antibiotics (first line of defense
either amoxicillan or doxycycline) immediately as a prophylactic,
because you never know.

much much much better safe than sorry (wise words trust me).

the rash is very specific!
Kara Tyson

2004-10-08, 11:07 am

Hi Greg,

There are many types of rashes associated with Lyme. Not just the
bull's eye. Be sure and go on http://www.lymenet.org under Flash
Dissussions. Post there. There are some UK and perhaps some Scottish
patients who post on the board.

This disease is not what it seems to be.

Kara Tyson
Lyme Support Group of AL
Phyllis Mervine

2004-10-09, 2:07 am

Greg Lewin <greglewin@ednet.co.uk> wrote in message news:<10map5tpk0imu5e@corp.supernews.com>...
> ... to Lyme disease?
>
> I had an odd bruise-like blotch on my leg, which became a bulls-eye, and
> my GP is not interested. He dismisses it as an ordinary insect bite.
>
> (background: this was ~2-3 weeks after being in the Scottish highlands,
> very much a deer area). I never saw an obvious tick as it was on the
> back of my calf, but there was something odd sticking out of the centre
> of the blotch at one point - a sort of thread-like thing.
>
> I'm now feeling a bit crap, and there's still a sort of bruise-like mark
> at the original site of the blotch, 2 months on. Admittedly it's the
> cold/flu season now, but I'm not happy about this.
>
> Any feedback appreciated -
>
> Greg


Greg, check out EuroLyme on the yahoogroups. They can refer you to
local resources. Or email Gill Reese, the group moderator.
<gilly848@ntlworld.com>
-
Phyllis Mervine, President
California Lyme Disease Association
Affiliate of the Lyme Disease Association, Inc.
PO Box 1423
Ukiah, CA 95482


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Greg Lewin

2004-10-19, 7:14 pm

Greg Lewin wrote:

<snip>

Thank you all for your comments.

I managed to persuade my GP to take blood for a test, with results due
in 3 days or so.

He's not Lyme literate, unfortunately, so I'll have to be ready for a
negative result (which I'll assume may be a false negative, as I'm not
really feeling quite right). I mentioned to him that there were 85 cases
from the Scottish Highlands in 2002, and this seemed to surprise him
somewhat. (me too to be honest).

I have enrolled with Eurolyme as suggested.

There's lots to read! This malady provokes much authorship.

Greg
Phyllis Mervine

2004-10-20, 2:07 am

Greg Lewin <greglewin@ednet.co.uk> wrote in message news:<4175961C.70501@ednet.co.uk>...
> Greg Lewin wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> Thank you all for your comments.
>
> I managed to persuade my GP to take blood for a test, with results due
> in 3 days or so.
>
> He's not Lyme literate, unfortunately, so I'll have to be ready for a
> negative result (which I'll assume may be a false negative, as I'm not
> really feeling quite right). I mentioned to him that there were 85 cases
> from the Scottish Highlands in 2002, and this seemed to surprise him
> somewhat. (me too to be honest).
>
> I have enrolled with Eurolyme as suggested.
>
> There's lots to read! This malady provokes much authorship.
>
> Greg


Greg, it's great to establish your credibility by knowing more than
your dr about the epidemiology/ecology of LD. Keep that edge. Now read
up on serologic tests - check igenex.com and mdlab.com. Igenex reports
all bands automatically. They are the only lab to do so. MDL will
report all bands if the dr requests them. Some bands are more
significant than others, and LLMDs take note of which bands are
present, even if the requisite 5 of 10 are not present. The ELISA
alone may miss 60% of late disseminated Lyme disease. I don't know if
you have any lyme specialty labs in the UK like we do in the US. We
only have a few.

You may find you get a positive test and the dr will say it is a false
positive, though I hope not.
Phyllis Mervine, President
California Lyme Disease Association
Affiliate of the Lyme Disease Association, Inc.
PO Box 1423
Ukiah, CA 95482
Greg Lewin

2004-10-22, 10:07 pm

Greg Lewin wrote:

<snip>

Thank you all for your comments.

I managed to persuade my GP to take blood for a test, with results due
in 3 days or so.

He's not Lyme literate, unfortunately, so I'll have to be ready for a
negative result (which I'll assume may be a false negative, as I'm not
really feeling quite right). I mentioned to him that there were 85 cases
from the Scottish Highlands in 2002, and this seemed to surprise him
somewhat. (me too to be honest).

I have enrolled with Eurolyme as suggested.

There's lots to read! This malady provokes much authorship.

Greg
Phyllis Mervine

2004-10-26, 11:08 am

Greg Lewin <greglewin@ednet.co.uk> wrote in message news:<4175961C.70501@ednet.co.uk>...
> Greg Lewin wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
> Thank you all for your comments.
>
> I managed to persuade my GP to take blood for a test, with results due
> in 3 days or so.
>
> He's not Lyme literate, unfortunately, so I'll have to be ready for a
> negative result (which I'll assume may be a false negative, as I'm not
> really feeling quite right). I mentioned to him that there were 85 cases
> from the Scottish Highlands in 2002, and this seemed to surprise him
> somewhat. (me too to be honest).
>
> I have enrolled with Eurolyme as suggested.
>
> There's lots to read! This malady provokes much authorship.
>
> Greg


Greg, it's great to establish your credibility by knowing more than
your dr about the epidemiology/ecology of LD. Keep that edge. Now read
up on serologic tests - check igenex.com and mdlab.com. Igenex reports
all bands automatically. They are the only lab to do so. MDL will
report all bands if the dr requests them. Some bands are more
significant than others, and LLMDs take note of which bands are
present, even if the requisite 5 of 10 are not present. The ELISA
alone may miss 60% of late disseminated Lyme disease. I don't know if
you have any lyme specialty labs in the UK like we do in the US. We
only have a few.

You may find you get a positive test and the dr will say it is a false
positive, though I hope not.
Phyllis Mervine, President
California Lyme Disease Association
Affiliate of the Lyme Disease Association, Inc.
PO Box 1423
Ukiah, CA 95482
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