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jean

2006-04-15, 1:05 pm

I've had persistent coughing and throat clearing for more than two
years now. (It all started with a very bad cold.) I DO have GERD
(Bravo proved that) but my GERD is not severe and my esophagus is not
eroded. This leads me to believe that there is something else going on
besides GERD. I'm on Nexium twice a day and a strong antacid at
bedtime, but the symptoms persist. It DOES get worse without the
Nexium. Some days, I feel strongly that there is a small bit of food
lodged in the esophagus. Other days, I can more easily believe the
irritation is reflux.

To add insult to injury, I've recently become extremely constipated. I
wondered if the antacids are changing my body chemistry in some way. I
had extreme discomfort for a while until I realized I was lactose
intolerant. I thought I had the answer to the constipation, but as it
turned out, I did not. The constipation persists and is almost total
unless I take a laxative. A colonoscopy was entirely clear...not even
a polyp.

I'm 53 years old and sometimes I feel like I'm 83. Any ideas?

Howard McCollister

2006-04-15, 1:05 pm


"jean" <jretkwa@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1145117617.598754.231200@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com...
> I've had persistent coughing and throat clearing for more than two
> years now. (It all started with a very bad cold.) I DO have GERD
> (Bravo proved that) but my GERD is not severe and my esophagus is not
> eroded. This leads me to believe that there is something else going on
> besides GERD. I'm on Nexium twice a day and a strong antacid at
> bedtime, but the symptoms persist. It DOES get worse without the
> Nexium. Some days, I feel strongly that there is a small bit of food
> lodged in the esophagus. Other days, I can more easily believe the
> irritation is reflux.
>
> To add insult to injury, I've recently become extremely constipated. I
> wondered if the antacids are changing my body chemistry in some way. I
> had extreme discomfort for a while until I realized I was lactose
> intolerant. I thought I had the answer to the constipation, but as it
> turned out, I did not. The constipation persists and is almost total
> unless I take a laxative. A colonoscopy was entirely clear...not even
> a polyp.
>
> I'm 53 years old and sometimes I feel like I'm 83. Any ideas?
>



You have GERD diagnosed by ambulatory pH testing and you provide an
almost-textbook description of laryngoesophageal reflux (LPR), right down to
the 'lump-in-throat' sensation. If you had reported occasional hoarseness,
it would be perfect. That sounds like *severe* GERD to me.

Constipation is a common side effect of antacids.

HMc



jean

2006-04-15, 1:05 pm

Occasional hoarseness, yes, definitely. And it certainly feels
"severe" but how can it be "severe GERD" if my esophagus is not eroded?
It feels like it should be practically raw by now!

Thanks for the response. I'll research laryngoesophageal reflux now.
I've been to three gastroenterologists and that word has never been
mentioned.

Jean

Howard McCollister

2006-04-15, 1:05 pm


"jean" <jretkwa@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1145121720.349056.222660@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Occasional hoarseness, yes, definitely. And it certainly feels
> "severe" but how can it be "severe GERD" if my esophagus is not eroded?
> It feels like it should be practically raw by now!
>
> Thanks for the response. I'll research laryngoesophageal reflux now.
> I've been to three gastroenterologists and that word has never been
> mentioned.
>
> Jean



GERD manifests itself in several ways. One doesn't have to have ALL of the
manifestations for it to be severe.

I despair of the ignorance of GERD manifested by the majority of
gastroenterologists. Their cluelessness is the reason why my surgeon
partners and I put together our own esophageal lab.

HMc





jean

2006-04-15, 1:05 pm

Thanks again. I've looked up laryngoesophageal reflux but I've also
found LPR as Laryngopharyngeal Reflux...same thing?

If this IS what I have, are there any remedies other than the ones I
know about for GERD? Should I see my ENT about this?

Jean

Howard McCollister

2006-04-15, 6:07 pm


"jean" <jretkwa@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1145123766.904430.112880@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> Thanks again. I've looked up laryngoesophageal reflux but I've also
> found LPR as Laryngopharyngeal Reflux...same thing?
>
> If this IS what I have, are there any remedies other than the ones I
> know about for GERD? Should I see my ENT about this?
>



Excuse me...I mistyped. LPR is indeed laryngopharyngeal reflux and that's
what you have.

Your problem is GERD due to malfunction of the LES and the remedies for your
LPR are only the remedies for GERD. An ENT can't do any more for you than a
urologist could (ie - nothing). If your GERD can't be managed to your
satisfaction by lifestyle changes and/or use of medication, then you need to
see a laparoendoscopic surgeon because it's time to consider anti-reflux
surgery.

HMc



Pete

2006-04-15, 6:07 pm

Howard McCollister wrote:
> "jean" <jretkwa@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1145121720.349056.222660@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
>
> GERD manifests itself in several ways. One doesn't have to have ALL
> of the manifestations for it to be severe.
>
> I despair of the ignorance of GERD manifested by the majority of
> gastroenterologists. Their cluelessness is the reason why my surgeon
> partners and I put together our own esophageal lab.
>
> HMc


Howard...I'm glad to see your statement about the ignorance of GERD
manifested by the gastro's (you have mentioned this before). This lends
itself to my discussions about my bad experiences with doctor's that you and
me don't totally agree on. Try telling the gastro what you just wrote
(naturally not verbatum) and you will be out on your ear (and that applies
to all the specialties, not just gastro). But I certainly agree with you.
And Jean went to three gastro's and not one mentioned LPR, and that is
bullshit.

Pete


Pete

2006-04-15, 6:07 pm

Howard McCollister wrote:
> "jean" <jretkwa@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1145123766.904430.112880@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
>
> Excuse me...I mistyped. LPR is indeed laryngopharyngeal reflux and
> that's what you have.
>
> Your problem is GERD due to malfunction of the LES and the remedies
> for your LPR are only the remedies for GERD. An ENT can't do any more
> for you than a urologist could (ie - nothing).


Totally agree Howard. But an ENT and a gastro may try to toggle you back
and forth (ie each one will try to put you off to the other one). It
happens in the other disciplines also (all the time)...Pete


If your GERD can't be
> managed to your satisfaction by lifestyle changes and/or use of
> medication, then you need to see a laparoendoscopic surgeon because
> it's time to consider anti-reflux surgery.
>
> HMc



jmc

2006-04-15, 6:07 pm

Suddenly, without warning, jean exclaimed (4/15/2006 5:13 PM):
> I've had persistent coughing and throat clearing for more than two
> years now. (It all started with a very bad cold.) I DO have GERD
> (Bravo proved that) but my GERD is not severe and my esophagus is not
> eroded. This leads me to believe that there is something else going on
> besides GERD. I'm on Nexium twice a day and a strong antacid at
> bedtime, but the symptoms persist. It DOES get worse without the
> Nexium. Some days, I feel strongly that there is a small bit of food
> lodged in the esophagus. Other days, I can more easily believe the
> irritation is reflux.
>
> To add insult to injury, I've recently become extremely constipated. I
> wondered if the antacids are changing my body chemistry in some way. I
> had extreme discomfort for a while until I realized I was lactose
> intolerant. I thought I had the answer to the constipation, but as it
> turned out, I did not. The constipation persists and is almost total
> unless I take a laxative. A colonoscopy was entirely clear...not even
> a polyp.
>
> I'm 53 years old and sometimes I feel like I'm 83. Any ideas?
>


Aside from the constipation, you sound a lot like me - you can research
this ng and find posts where I describe my symptoms.

I seem to have the GERD/LPR mostly under control - no obvious reflux
now, but still have a cough - about the same day and night now - and the
lump-in-throat symptom.

One thing my Dr has suggested as a cause of the cough, that hasn't been
investigated yet, is asthma. Interestingly enough (to me anyway) is
that often, when I've been to the Dr. for this or that over the last few
years, I'm often asked if I have asthma. I've always replied, "I don't
know" but nobody's ever tested or tried to treat me for it.

Might be worth mentioning to your doctor though. I'm certainly going to
look into it while I'm in the US for a bit, at least eliminate that as a
possibility. If it turns out to be a dead end, then it's time for the
raised bed and yet more lifestyle/dietary changes, as I'm already on
Nexium 40mg + 75 or 150mg Zantac as needed.

The cough is better now, but I still can't get a full 8 hours of sleep.
I tend to take close to two hours to fall asleep (I go through a
couple of almost-sleep-then-cough cycles) and then wake up 5 or 6 hours
later to cough. Can't seem to go more than 6 hours. At least it's that
much, for a while I couldn't get more than 2 hours uninterrupted rest.



jmc
Howard McCollister

2006-04-15, 6:07 pm


"jmc" <NOnewsgroupsSPAM@NOjodiBODY.HOMEus> wrote in message
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> One thing my Dr has suggested as a cause of the cough, that hasn't been
> investigated yet, is asthma. Interestingly enough (to me anyway) is that
> often, when I've been to the Dr. for this or that over the last few years,
> I'm often asked if I have asthma. I've always replied, "I don't know" but
> nobody's ever tested or tried to treat me for it.


Sheesh.

Asthma is a common extraesophageal side effect of GERD and that link is
well-documented in literature your doctor apparently doesn't read.
Microaspiration of the same refluxate in your posterior pharynx that's
causing your cough likewise causes a reactive airway - IOW -> asthma.

http://tinyurl.com/jpprs
http://tinyurl.com/hf69d


HMc



jmc

2006-04-15, 6:07 pm

Suddenly, without warning, Howard McCollister exclaimed (4/15/2006 10:19
PM):
> "jmc" <NOnewsgroupsSPAM@NOjodiBODY.HOMEus> wrote in message
> news:4ad2o2Fsp77jU1@individual.net...
>
>
> Sheesh.
>
> Asthma is a common extraesophageal side effect of GERD and that link is
> well-documented in literature your doctor apparently doesn't read.
> Microaspiration of the same refluxate in your posterior pharynx that's
> causing your cough likewise causes a reactive airway - IOW -> asthma.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/jpprs
> http://tinyurl.com/hf69d
>
>
> HMc
>
>
>


Apparently not, this link has never been mentioned by any of the GPs
I've seen here. But you already know my opinion of NHS doctors. But,
is it worthwhile to treat the asthma until I can get the GERD/LPR under
control?

jmc
Howard McCollister

2006-04-16, 1:09 am


"jmc" <NOnewsgroupsSPAM@NOjodiBODY.HOMEus> wrote in message
news:4ad7cuFs49rdU1@individual.net...
> Suddenly, without warning, Howard McCollister exclaimed (4/15/2006 10:19
> PM):
>
> Apparently not, this link has never been mentioned by any of the GPs I've
> seen here. But you already know my opinion of NHS doctors. But, is it
> worthwhile to treat the asthma until I can get the GERD/LPR under control?
>
> jmc


Sure, it's worth a try. Anything that makes you feel better is worthwhile.

HMc



Lese Mollel

2006-04-16, 1:09 am

Have you tried eating prunes and bran each day and lots of water as well as
smaller meals. I personally eat a small meal every 2.5 to 3 hours and I
find it helps my digestion while I'm on prevacid.
"Howard McCollister" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
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>
> "jmc" <NOnewsgroupsSPAM@NOjodiBODY.HOMEus> wrote in message
> news:4ad7cuFs49rdU1@individual.net...
>
> Sure, it's worth a try. Anything that makes you feel better is worthwhile.
>
> HMc
>
>
>



Richard Kaszeta

2006-04-17, 11:08 am

"Howard McCollister" <nospam@nospam.net> writes:
> I despair of the ignorance of GERD manifested by the majority of
> gastroenterologists. Their cluelessness is the reason why my surgeon
> partners and I put together our own esophageal lab.


I'll have to agree with this general assessment, since I've found that
I'm generally more informed on GERD issues (due in no small part to
Howard and the fact that I regularly visit the local med school
library for other reasons) than the gastroenterologists I've been
referred to (and the clinic/hospital I use is generally considered to
be a good one). For example, I've had two different
gastroenterologists tell me that esophageal pH monitoring isn't a
reliable technique for evaluating GERD[1]. Combined with my insurance
that holds a similar belief[2], that's rather cumbersome.

To get reasonable health care, you have to take the responsibility to
keep yourself informed, since, in general, you can't rely on the
doctors.

[1] Oddly, both the gastros and my insurance will handily approve a
barium swallow, which generally seems to be considered a much poorer
diagnostic tool than pH monitoring or endoscopy. My experiences
matches this, since when I had bad GERD symptoms pre-Nissen, I had
clear pH monitoring results, slightly ambiguous EGD results, and no
indication of reflux from a barium swallow.
[2] "Esophageal pH monitoring is not generally recommended in the
diagnosis of GERD, but may be used as part of the work up in some
cases of GERD that have failed previous attempts at treatment or for
patients that are considering antireflux surgery."

--
Richard W Kaszeta
rich@kaszeta.org
http://www.kaszeta.org/rich
jean

2006-04-17, 1:07 pm

One of my gastroenterologists told me that the reflux surgery works
best on people for whom one of the PPIs work well. In other words, the
less you need the surgery, the better it will work. Since Nexium twice
a day does not relieve symptoms, I would then be a bad candidate for
surgery. Is this so? My ENT also told me that the surgery leaves you
with yet another set of problems and side effects to deal with. All in
all, I've been less than enthusiastic about the surgery for these
reasons. Do you know a reason I should reconsider?

Thanks.

Jean

jean

2006-04-17, 1:07 pm

Thanks for responding, but yes, I've been checked for asthma and
cleared by a pulmonary physician. My ENT suggested the consult early
on since I have nasal polyps and that condition is associated with
asthma.

For some reason, my coughing and throat clearing rarely interferes with
sleep. Once I'm lying down and relaxing, I usually can suppress the
cough. Some nights, I can't suppress it (and then I go sleep on the
reclining chair so I don't keep my husband awake) but nights are not
the worst problem for me. Days, however, can be exhausting.

Jean

Howard McCollister

2006-04-17, 1:07 pm


"jean" <jretkwa@aol.com> wrote in message
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> One of my gastroenterologists told me that the reflux surgery works
> best on people for whom one of the PPIs work well. In other words, the
> less you need the surgery, the better it will work. Since Nexium twice
> a day does not relieve symptoms, I would then be a bad candidate for
> surgery. Is this so? My ENT also told me that the surgery leaves you
> with yet another set of problems and side effects to deal with. All in
> all, I've been less than enthusiastic about the surgery for these
> reasons. Do you know a reason I should reconsider?
>


Neither of those physicians are surgeons, I note. Therefore it would
surprising if they knew ANYTHING about surgery for GERD, especially post-op
side effects. It's very much like asking your plumber about the reason
you're repeatedly blowing circuit breakers in your house, and should you
rewire?

HMc



jean

2006-04-17, 6:07 pm

Sorry I was so glib. Actually, the gastroenterologist who told me I
wasn't a great candidate for surgery DOES perform the surgery and
offered it to me as an alternative.

Jean

Howard McCollister

2006-04-17, 6:07 pm


"jean" <jretkwa@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Sorry I was so glib. Actually, the gastroenterologist who told me I
> wasn't a great candidate for surgery DOES perform the surgery and
> offered it to me as an alternative.
>


A gastroenterologist that does surgery? I highly doubt it. Gastroenterology
is a subspeciality of Internal Medicine. Internists have zero training in
surgery. ENT likewise have no competence whatsoever, by training, once they
get below the neck.

HMc




Howard McCollister

2006-04-17, 6:07 pm

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"Howard McCollister" <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
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>
> "jean" <jretkwa@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:1145300392.404001.29550@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> A gastroenterologist that does surgery? I highly doubt it.


Unless you're talking about the Stretta procedure, which is an endoscopic
procedure done by some gastroentrologists. That procedure is only suitable
for about 60% of GERD sufferers.

HMc



jean

2006-04-18, 6:08 pm

After reading about the two procedures, I'm certain that's what he
meant. Is the Nissen procedure a better bet for someone like me? I'm
really at the point of considering surgery. I see that it helps 90% of
sufferers. Is that realistic? I've had every test you're supposed to
have before the procedure already. Any suggestions as to where to have
it done? New Jersey would be best, but I could do New York, too. And
even farther afield if necessary.

Thanks again.

Jean

Howard McCollister

2006-04-19, 11:10 am


"jean" <jretkwa@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1145390175.566543.222120@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> After reading about the two procedures, I'm certain that's what he
> meant. Is the Nissen procedure a better bet for someone like me? I'm
> really at the point of considering surgery. I see that it helps 90% of
> sufferers. Is that realistic? I've had every test you're supposed to
> have before the procedure already. Any suggestions as to where to have
> it done? New Jersey would be best, but I could do New York, too. And
> even farther afield if necessary.
>


The Nissen procedure is vastly superior to the Stretta in terms of
resolution of reflux, but at the cost of more potential side effects and the
fact that the success of the procedure is far more dependant on surgeon
skill. In competent hands, a success rate of >90% for a Nissen is very
realistic. In addition to the fact that the Stretta is not optimally
suitable for about 40% of refluxers, the success rate is only about 70%, and
that success (if it IS successful) may take up to a year to manifest itself.
On the positive side, the side effects from Stretta are minimal (little
chance of bloating, difficulty swallowing), it is entirely outpatient, and
is generally painless. Stretta is not well-suited to patients with very low
LES pressures on manometry, nor is it advisable in patients with any
significant hiatus hernia (>~2 cm). As you mentioned, it is best-suited to
patients in whom PPI's work well. Stretta does not preclude Nissen
fundoplication later if the Stretta doesn't work.

I have no information on where this might be done on the east coast, sorry.
You're best bet is to look for a surgeon that specializes in
laparoendoscopic surgery, has completed an MIS fellowship (minimally
invasive surgery), and does revisional laparoscopic surgery. Those are the
three main questions to ask a surgeon you are interviewing to do a Nissen
fundoplication on you.

HMc



jean

2006-04-26, 11:10 am

I'll hold onto that information for a future time. I'm not quite ready
for surgery. I've been reading about digestive enzymes and other
natural remedies. Has anyone tried this route? I see very little in
this forum about it except for a few thinly disguised ads. I figured
that if they're not harmful, it'd be worth a try. Would the natural
remedies be harmful in any way? I know they sometimes interact with
medicines, so I'd have to research that aspect. Or am I just being a
chump to think a natural remedy could help?

Jean

Howard McCollister

2006-04-26, 1:09 pm


"jean" <jretkwa@aol.com> wrote in message
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> I'll hold onto that information for a future time. I'm not quite ready
> for surgery. I've been reading about digestive enzymes and other
> natural remedies. Has anyone tried this route? I see very little in
> this forum about it except for a few thinly disguised ads. I figured
> that if they're not harmful, it'd be worth a try. Would the natural
> remedies be harmful in any way? I know they sometimes interact with
> medicines, so I'd have to research that aspect. Or am I just being a
> chump to think a natural remedy could help?
>


From my allopathic point of view, I vote for the latter scenario. However,
it's unlikely most of those nostra would do any harm.

HMc


Gregory

2006-04-28, 1:07 pm

Read on this list that I probably have LPR (Thanks Howard!). Then went
to my first G.I. visit for a pre-endoscopy interview. He didn't even
mention LPR although I said I've been throat clearing every day for
over 30 years. So why the silence on LPR? Is it so newly discovered
that G.I.s haven't seen enough people to recognize it yet? Luckily
there's some info online. Anyone know if there is a good source for
the lay person to keep track or research LPR med liierature?

Jean: The throat clearing has never kept me awake either. I sleep
like a rock and awake every day refreshed even with mild sleep apnea.
Doing nexium 2x with the same results as you.

jnc: You may indeed have asthma and/or allergies but your reflux can
still contribute (got this idea from my allergy doc). As I've begun to
keep a food journal and experiment with vascilating between strict diet
and binging, I'm discovering that some of my sinus/asthma symptoms kick
in when I do coffee/alcohol/chocolate or other acid reflux inducing
food/drinks with other stuff like bicycling a hard 10-25 miles or
lifting weights. Went from needing a hit or 2 of inhaller before
lifting at the gym to no inhaller. In fact I've stopped using advair
totally and haven't used my inhaller in al least 3 months. (BTW, I
still carry my inhaller in the gym. If you have ashtma, you should
ALWAYS carry an inhaller. Research backs this up. Only takes once
without one to die.: )

Pete

2006-04-29, 1:09 am

Gregory wrote:
> Read on this list that I probably have LPR (Thanks Howard!). Then
> went to my first G.I. visit for a pre-endoscopy interview. He didn't
> even mention LPR although I said I've been throat clearing every day
> for over 30 years. So why the silence on LPR? Is it so newly
> discovered that G.I.s haven't seen enough people to recognize it yet?
> Luckily there's some info online. Anyone know if there is a good
> source for the lay person to keep track or research LPR med
> liierature?
>
> Jean: The throat clearing has never kept me awake either. I sleep
> like a rock and awake every day refreshed even with mild sleep apnea.
> Doing nexium 2x with the same results as you.
>
> jnc: You may indeed have asthma and/or allergies but your reflux can
> still contribute (got this idea from my allergy doc). As I've begun
> to keep a food journal and experiment with vascilating between strict
> diet and binging, I'm discovering that some of my sinus/asthma
> symptoms kick in when I do coffee/alcohol/chocolate or other acid
> reflux inducing food/drinks with other stuff like bicycling a hard
> 10-25 miles or lifting weights. Went from needing a hit or 2 of
> inhaller before lifting at the gym to no inhaller. In fact I've
> stopped using advair totally and haven't used my inhaller in al least
> 3 months. (BTW, I still carry my inhaller in the gym. If you have
> ashtma, you should ALWAYS carry an inhaller. Research backs this up.
> Only takes once without one to die.: )


Gregory...I believe you mean "inhaler" :-) .


Howard McCollister

2006-04-29, 11:08 am


"Gregory" <g_redfeairn@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:1146247082.327311.296560@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Read on this list that I probably have LPR (Thanks Howard!). Then went
> to my first G.I. visit for a pre-endoscopy interview. He didn't even
> mention LPR although I said I've been throat clearing every day for
> over 30 years. So why the silence on LPR? Is it so newly discovered
> that G.I.s haven't seen enough people to recognize it yet? Luckily
> there's some info online. Anyone know if there is a good source for
> the lay person to keep track or research LPR med liierature?
>
> Jean: The throat clearing has never kept me awake either. I sleep
> like a rock and awake every day refreshed even with mild sleep apnea.
> Doing nexium 2x with the same results as you.
>
> jnc: You may indeed have asthma and/or allergies but your reflux can
> still contribute (got this idea from my allergy doc). As I've begun to
> keep a food journal and experiment with vascilating between strict diet
> and binging, I'm discovering that some of my sinus/asthma symptoms kick
> in when I do coffee/alcohol/chocolate or other acid reflux inducing
> food/drinks with other stuff like bicycling a hard 10-25 miles or
> lifting weights. Went from needing a hit or 2 of inhaller before
> lifting at the gym to no inhaller. In fact I've stopped using advair
> totally and haven't used my inhaller in al least 3 months. (BTW, I
> still carry my inhaller in the gym. If you have ashtma, you should
> ALWAYS carry an inhaller. Research backs this up. Only takes once
> without one to die.: )
>


Many of the concepts of diagnosis and treatment of GERD are indeed new
enough that many doctors are not knowledgeable. The degree of ignorance
varies by specialty, with primary care physicians at the top of the
cluelessness scale. They can be excused since their job would to be refer
appropriately, but gastroenterologists continue to be a big disappointment
to me - THEY should be smarter about this stuff.

HMc



dirtdude

2006-05-10, 1:10 am

sufferer,
I sufferd from "GERD" for years and years, I complained to my health
care providers about severe chest pain. I was very discourged with them
when they told me I had hart burn. At the time I was 30 years old and
had 30 years experence with my body. Every experence I have had with
hart burn was not a crippeling pain in my chest. My personal experence
with hartburn is more like burping, then getting a foul, acid tasting
hunk of vomit that gets stuck in my craw.
The 'doctors' perscribed PPI's. The meds made me sick... very sick.
much worse than the chest pain I had. the purple pills of death gave me
indescribable cramping, constapated diarrhea and put me right out of
work. The 'doctors' told me I had to take the pills for the rest of my
life and perscribed more drugs to treat the symptoms of the PPIs

After being very sick for 6 years and a mountain of medical bills
later, I decided to commit suicide. I was saying my goodbyes and a
friend recomended giving 2 middel fingers to the medical industry
first. I flushed $600.00 worth of crapola drugs and was prepairing my
self to go out with a bang. It took much longer to ready my equipment
than I thought.. the short story is, 3 days later I started feeling
better. Much Better!

Here comes the part you want to hear. a few months later I had chest
pain after consuming a glass of orange juice. I knew right away what it
was and what caused it. I put my self on OTC (Over The Counter) tagamet
tabs. in two days the chest pain was gone and i took my self right back
off of them. Every now and then I get chest pain and gas pressure, when
I burp I get a sensation of relief. when this happens it is a message
to take a tagamit.

I guess if I were you, and I had to do this all over again, the first
thing I would do, is Fire my health care provider and flush the PPIs.
Doctors and drug manufactures are in cahoots with eachother. I doubt
very much if your doctor really cares how you feel so long as he gets
payed and I can only assume that the drug manufacturer is counting on
the 'doctors' to write you a perscription.

Ask any doctor how long GERD has been around.... Not very long and
It does not seem to exist in 3rd world countrys. Hartburn has been with
humans sence we existed and IS in 3rd world countrys.
I suspect that the term GERD was coined shortly after the
agriculturests started tampering with the gentics in the food, wich
makes me think the agriculturests are in cahoots with the
pharmaceutical companys.

when I stopped consuming genticly alterd produce and darie products
all my problims went away... Food for thought.

I hope this helps you and I hope that you will no longer be a notch in
some doctors belt. do some research on what kinds of foods you are
eating that are genticly alterd and cut them out of your diet, stop
shopping at safeway and the likes, they only care about profit (like
doctors and pharmaceutical companys) and they buy the less expencive
genticly alterd, long lasting, high yeald products.

I'd wish you luck. but you dont need it. I know i'm right about the
genticly alterd food. Enjoy

sherrybove@gmail.com

2006-06-04, 8:26 am

Weight Gain May Up Women's Heartburn

When women gain weight, they may raise their risk of developing
heartburn, even if they don't gain a lot of weight and aren't
already overweight or obese.

Even moderate weight gain among persons of normal weight may cause or
exacerbate symptoms of reflux.

Those who gained weight had greater odds of new or worsened GERD, the
study shows. That pattern was seen for women with normal, overweight,
and obese BMI.

For complete news:-
http://epsdrugstore.com/6-1eps1.htm










dirtdude wrote:
> sufferer,
> I sufferd from "GERD" for years and years, I complained to my health
> care providers about severe chest pain. I was very discourged with them
> when they told me I had hart burn. At the time I was 30 years old and
> had 30 years experence with my body. Every experence I have had with
> hart burn was not a crippeling pain in my chest. My personal experence
> with hartburn is more like burping, then getting a foul, acid tasting
> hunk of vomit that gets stuck in my craw.
> The 'doctors' perscribed PPI's. The meds made me sick... very sick.
> much worse than the chest pain I had. the purple pills of death gave me
> indescribable cramping, constapated diarrhea and put me right out of
> work. The 'doctors' told me I had to take the pills for the rest of my
> life and perscribed more drugs to treat the symptoms of the PPIs
>
> After being very sick for 6 years and a mountain of medical bills
> later, I decided to commit suicide. I was saying my goodbyes and a
> friend recomended giving 2 middel fingers to the medical industry
> first. I flushed $600.00 worth of crapola drugs and was prepairing my
> self to go out with a bang. It took much longer to ready my equipment
> than I thought.. the short story is, 3 days later I started feeling
> better. Much Better!
>
> Here comes the part you want to hear. a few months later I had chest
> pain after consuming a glass of orange juice. I knew right away what it
> was and what caused it. I put my self on OTC (Over The Counter) tagamet
> tabs. in two days the chest pain was gone and i took my self right back
> off of them. Every now and then I get chest pain and gas pressure, when
> I burp I get a sensation of relief. when this happens it is a message
> to take a tagamit.
>
> I guess if I were you, and I had to do this all over again, the first
> thing I would do, is Fire my health care provider and flush the PPIs.
> Doctors and drug manufactures are in cahoots with eachother. I doubt
> very much if your doctor really cares how you feel so long as he gets
> payed and I can only assume that the drug manufacturer is counting on
> the 'doctors' to write you a perscription.
>
> Ask any doctor how long GERD has been around.... Not very long and
> It does not seem to exist in 3rd world countrys. Hartburn has been with
> humans sence we existed and IS in 3rd world countrys.
> I suspect that the term GERD was coined shortly after the
> agriculturests started tampering with the gentics in the food, wich
> makes me think the agriculturests are in cahoots with the
> pharmaceutical companys.
>
> when I stopped consuming genticly alterd produce and darie products
> all my problims went away... Food for thought.
>
> I hope this helps you and I hope that you will no longer be a notch in
> some doctors belt. do some research on what kinds of foods you are
> eating that are genticly alterd and cut them out of your diet, stop
> shopping at safeway and the likes, they only care about profit (like
> doctors and pharmaceutical companys) and they buy the less expencive
> genticly alterd, long lasting, high yeald products.
>
> I'd wish you luck. but you dont need it. I know i'm right about the
> genticly alterd food. Enjoy


sherrybove@gmail.com

2006-06-04, 8:26 am

Even Small Weight Gains Up GERD Risk

Symptoms of gastroesophageal reflux disease (GERD) appear to be
directly related to body-mass index, even if a person is not
overweight.

This sheds some light that any excess weight over ideal body weight may
have a detrimental effect.

GERD occurs when the valve between the stomach and the esophagus fails
to close properly. As a result, the contents in the stomach, including
stomach acid, can spill up into the esophagus, leading to erosion of
the esophagus and, in some cases, esophageal cancer.
Researchers have already established that overweight and obese people
are at an increased risk for GERD, but there have been questions about
the link between body-mass index (BMI) and GERD.

For complete news;-
http://epsdrugstore.com/6-1eps2.htm









dirtdude wrote:
> sufferer,
> I sufferd from "GERD" for years and years, I complained to my health
> care providers about severe chest pain. I was very discourged with them
> when they told me I had hart burn. At the time I was 30 years old and
> had 30 years experence with my body. Every experence I have had with
> hart burn was not a crippeling pain in my chest. My personal experence
> with hartburn is more like burping, then getting a foul, acid tasting
> hunk of vomit that gets stuck in my craw.
> The 'doctors' perscribed PPI's. The meds made me sick... very sick.
> much worse than the chest pain I had. the purple pills of death gave me
> indescribable cramping, constapated diarrhea and put me right out of
> work. The 'doctors' told me I had to take the pills for the rest of my
> life and perscribed more drugs to treat the symptoms of the PPIs
>
> After being very sick for 6 years and a mountain of medical bills
> later, I decided to commit suicide. I was saying my goodbyes and a
> friend recomended giving 2 middel fingers to the medical industry
> first. I flushed $600.00 worth of crapola drugs and was prepairing my
> self to go out with a bang. It took much longer to ready my equipment
> than I thought.. the short story is, 3 days later I started feeling
> better. Much Better!
>
> Here comes the part you want to hear. a few months later I had chest
> pain after consuming a glass of orange juice. I knew right away what it
> was and what caused it. I put my self on OTC (Over The Counter) tagamet
> tabs. in two days the chest pain was gone and i took my self right back
> off of them. Every now and then I get chest pain and gas pressure, when
> I burp I get a sensation of relief. when this happens it is a message
> to take a tagamit.
>
> I guess if I were you, and I had to do this all over again, the first
> thing I would do, is Fire my health care provider and flush the PPIs.
> Doctors and drug manufactures are in cahoots with eachother. I doubt
> very much if your doctor really cares how you feel so long as he gets
> payed and I can only assume that the drug manufacturer is counting on
> the 'doctors' to write you a perscription.
>
> Ask any doctor how long GERD has been around.... Not very long and
> It does not seem to exist in 3rd world countrys. Hartburn has been with
> humans sence we existed and IS in 3rd world countrys.
> I suspect that the term GERD was coined shortly after the
> agriculturests started tampering with the gentics in the food, wich
> makes me think the agriculturests are in cahoots with the
> pharmaceutical companys.
>
> when I stopped consuming genticly alterd produce and darie products
> all my problims went away... Food for thought.
>
> I hope this helps you and I hope that you will no longer be a notch in
> some doctors belt. do some research on what kinds of foods you are
> eating that are genticly alterd and cut them out of your diet, stop
> shopping at safeway and the likes, they only care about profit (like
> doctors and pharmaceutical companys) and they buy the less expencive
> genticly alterd, long lasting, high yeald products.
>
> I'd wish you luck. but you dont need it. I know i'm right about the
> genticly alterd food. Enjoy


jmc

2006-06-04, 8:26 am

Suddenly, without warning, sherrybove@gmail.com exclaimed (6/1/2006 8:44
AM):
> Weight Gain May Up Women's Heartburn
>
> When women gain weight, they may raise their risk of developing
> heartburn, even if they don't gain a lot of weight and aren't
> already overweight or obese.
>
> Even moderate weight gain among persons of normal weight may cause or
> exacerbate symptoms of reflux.
>
> Those who gained weight had greater odds of new or worsened GERD, the
> study shows. That pattern was seen for women with normal, overweight,
> and obese BMI.
>
> For complete news:-
> http://epsdrugstore.com/6-1eps1.htm
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> dirtdude wrote:
>


Yup, I'd say this is true. I probably had GERD before I re-gained
weight, but it wasn't serious to be noticed (dry morning throat,
unexplained cough, that sort of thing). However, when I'd gained some
weight, it turned into a strong, scary chest pain, which started at
maybe once every couple of months but became more like 3x per week by
the time I was 20# over my ideal weight.

Now I'm losing weight again, I'm having less problems, but there's other
factors as well that can explain the lessening of these issues.

jmc
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