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| me@privacy.net 2006-03-22, 1:31 pm |
| Does anyone make and sell a lightweight say aluminum
adjustable bed that allows one to elevate the head
height?
I want a specific purpose bed for this that is easy to
move, strong, etc
I don't want to jury rig books or flower pots under a
reg bed to achieve elevation
Advice?
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| Bill Poston 2006-03-22, 1:31 pm |
| I'm not aware of any but you can go to a metal fabricator shop and
have an aluminum stand made for about $85.00. I did and its the best
thing I ever did for GERD.
On Sun, 05 Mar 2006 11:14:58 -0600, me@privacy.net wrote:
>Does anyone make and sell a lightweight say aluminum
>adjustable bed that allows one to elevate the head
>height?
>
>I want a specific purpose bed for this that is easy to
>move, strong, etc
>
>I don't want to jury rig books or flower pots under a
>reg bed to achieve elevation
>
>Advice?
Bill Poston
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| me@privacy.net 2006-03-22, 1:31 pm |
| Bill Poston <poston8[at]comcast[dot]net> wrote:
>I'm not aware of any but you can go to a metal fabricator shop and
>have an aluminum stand made for about $85.00. I did and its the best
>thing I ever did for GERD.
Can u send a picture of it to:
john63401 at yahoo dot com?
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| Really? The best thing? I'm trying a bed wedge right now, but I'm not
sure of the results yet. Wondering if I will have to give up the
waterbed, after 30 years.
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| Bill Poston 2006-03-22, 1:31 pm |
| Mary,
You are doing couple of very bad things for GERD. The waterbed is the
very worse thing you can sleep on. Second, the wedge is worse because
if the wedge is high enough you actually put more pressure on your LES
and this can and will cause more acid reflux.
On 6 Mar 2006 10:34:11 -0800, "Mary" <marymele@gmail.com> wrote:
>Really? The best thing? I'm trying a bed wedge right now, but I'm not
>sure of the results yet. Wondering if I will have to give up the
>waterbed, after 30 years.
Bill Poston
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| Howard McCollister 2006-03-22, 1:31 pm |
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"Bill Poston" <poston8[at]comcast[dot]net> wrote in message
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> Mary,
>
> You are doing couple of very bad things for GERD. The waterbed is the
> very worse thing you can sleep on. Second, the wedge is worse because
> if the wedge is high enough you actually put more pressure on your LES
> and this can and will cause more acid reflux.
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>
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> On 6 Mar 2006 10:34:11 -0800, "Mary" <marymele@gmail.com> wrote:
>
This assumes that the patient has an LES with a low resting pressure. More
than 1000 48-hour ambulatory pH tests have taught me that that isn't even
the majority of GERD sufferers. Elevating the head of the bed can be helpful
in some patients, but not the majority. Those HOB elevation recommendations
have become part of the classic dogma of GERD treatment, and like most
dogma, it's promulgated by people, doctors and otherwise, that don't really
understand the physiology of GERD.
HMc
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| hi
there is no connection BED/GERD.
you are on the wrong track.
get rid of the GERD forget about the bed.
eg i have slept on @ # $ % ^ & * i do not have GERD.
in your case sleeping on @ # $ $ % ^ & * did not give you GERD.
moke
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| me@privacy.net 2006-03-22, 1:31 pm |
| "moke" <googlibrary@hotmail.com> wrote:
>there is no connection BED/GERD.
wrong
elevating my bed was the best thing I did..... better
than drugs
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| How far did you elevate your bed? I put a brick under each side and
bought a wedge pillow, both of which seem to be helping but I welcome
any fine tuning!
Thanks,
Laura
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| me@privacy.net 2006-03-22, 6:15 pm |
| "Laura" <shopwithlaura@gmail.com> wrote:
>How far did you elevate your bed? I put a brick under each side and
>bought a wedge pillow, both of which seem to be helping but I welcome
>any fine tuning!
Not sure
But I know its more than 6 inches high
And frankly I'm looking for a way to elevate it higher
yet
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| Vanny 2006-03-23, 11:10 am |
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My quality of life notched up noticeably after I bought a wedge pillow. Also
the same thing happened after I stopped drinking milk (after also having
implemented all other necessary GERD lifestyle changes).
Vanny
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"Laura" <shopwithlaura@gmail.com> wrote:
>How far did you elevate your bed? I put a brick under each side and
>bought a wedge pillow, both of which seem to be helping but I welcome
>any fine tuning!
Not sure
But I know its more than 6 inches high
And frankly I'm looking for a way to elevate it higher
yet
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| Laura 2006-03-23, 11:10 am |
| I was thinking about stopping Milk products too. Now, after you've said
it helped you, I think I will do it!
Sadly, last night, out of nowhere, I started having the chest
pain/heartburn again (I hadn't eaten anything for about 4 hours). I
really wanted to try some Maalox but I'm on an antibiotic for a sinus
infection and can't take antacids 8 hours before and 4 hours after the
antibiotic. So, I ate a plain yogurt and it stopped. How weird is that?
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me@privacy.net wrote:
> "Laura" <shopwithlaura@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Not sure
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> But I know its more than 6 inches high
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> And frankly I'm looking for a way to elevate it higher
> yet
If you elevate it too much you will keep sliding down the bed and end up on
the floor unless you engineer some kind of foot stops at the bottom :-):-)
....Pete
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| me@privacy.net 2006-03-23, 6:11 pm |
| "Pete" <pete@nospam.net> wrote:
>If you elevate it too much you will keep sliding down the bed and end up on
>the floor unless you engineer some kind of foot stops at the bottom :-):-)
Having that problem already
But the GERD relief is worth it
and yes I was thinking of a footrest at bottom as well
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| Tim J. 2006-03-24, 1:14 am |
| On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 17:59:08 -0500, Bill Poston
<poston8[at]comcast[dot]net> wrote:
>The waterbed is the
>very worse thing you can sleep on.
How on earth do you come to that conclusion?
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| Richard Kaszeta 2006-03-24, 1:14 am |
| Tim J. <tj66821@usa.not> writes:
> On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 17:59:08 -0500, Bill Poston
> <poston8[at]comcast[dot]net> wrote:
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> How on earth do you come to that conclusion?
Indeed, I know I've seen a paper in which they did pH monitoring for
both regular beds and waterbeds and showed no difference (although
commented that with a waterbed you can't really incline it). A quick
PubMed search should find it.
Ahh, here it is: Wang JC, Castell DO, Sinclair JW, Wu WC. Does
sleeping on a waterbed promote gastroesophageal reflux? Dig Dis
Sci. 1989 Oct;34(10):1585-9.
--
Richard W Kaszeta
rich@kaszeta.org
http://www.kaszeta.org/rich
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| Vanny 2006-03-24, 11:13 am |
| I was thinking about patenting my idea of pyjamas with a velcro patch and
the corresponding velcro patch on the bed. Then we wouldn't slip down in the
night.
Vanny
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"Pete" <pete@nospam.net> wrote:
>If you elevate it too much you will keep sliding down the bed and end up on
>the floor unless you engineer some kind of foot stops at the bottom :-):-)
Having that problem already
But the GERD relief is worth it
and yes I was thinking of a footrest at bottom as well
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| Bill Poston 2006-03-24, 11:13 am |
| It's simple.
There is a technical name for this but I can't remember it. In an
enclosed container, liquid will always move to the lowest point of the
container. It's caused by gravity. The upper part of the human body is
heavier than the lower part of the body. So, when a person lies on a
flat, soft bed or a waterbed, the acid in the stomach will run toward
the top of the stomach where the LES is located. This action will
cause the LES to be damaged by the constant contact with the stomach
acid and that is what causes most GERD.
This why many gastro docs are beginning to recommend patients to sleep
on a bed with the head raised. And, many people with GERD problems
will quickly say that raising the head of their bed is the best thing
they have ever done for their GERD.
You can demonstrate this action by holding a bottle partially filled
with water. Even the slightest tilt will cause the water to flow to
the lower end.
On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 21:15:02 -0500, Tim J. <tj66821@usa.not> wrote:
>On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 17:59:08 -0500, Bill Poston
><poston8[at]comcast[dot]net> wrote:
>
>
>How on earth do you come to that conclusion?
Bill Poston
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| me@privacy.net 2006-03-24, 11:13 am |
| Bill Poston <poston8[at]comcast[dot]net> wrote:
>This why many gastro docs are beginning to recommend patients to sleep
>on a bed with the head raised. And, many people with GERD problems
>will quickly say that raising the head of their bed is the best thing
>they have ever done for their GERD.
Agree
I'm proof
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| Bill Poston 2006-03-24, 11:13 am |
| Thank you.
It is a real shame that something as simple as this is not known or
understood by many sufferers of GERD and that there are many other
simple life-style changes that can be done to help GERD.
But, most people are creatures of habit, i.e., the doc is always
right, if the doc doesn't say it I'm not gonna do it, etc. etc.
And, even more sadder is that most docs are very reluctant to change
what they learned in med school 30 or 40 years ago. For proof take a
look at my post a few days back about h. pylori. It took over ten
years for the medical society to accept the fact that h. pylori causes
most digestion ulcers. And, in that respect, most docs will only treat
h. pylori with antibiotics which is good to a point but not the end
all treatment for h. pylori. Again most people are not even aware
about h. pylori.
On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 10:09:44 -0600, me@privacy.net wrote:
>Bill Poston <poston8[at]comcast[dot]net> wrote:
>
>
>Agree
>
>I'm proof
Bill Poston
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| me@privacy.net 2006-03-24, 1:14 pm |
| "Vanny" <VannySS2003@antispam.com> wrote:
>I was thinking about patenting my idea of pyjamas with a velcro patch and
>the corresponding velcro patch on the bed. Then we wouldn't slip down in the
>night.
haha!
Great idea tho!
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| me@privacy.net wrote:
> "Pete" <pete@nospam.net> wrote:
>
>
> Having that problem already
>
> But the GERD relief is worth it
>
> and yes I was thinking of a footrest at bottom as well
A little levity for you all...Woodworking is my hobby and I have built all
the furniture in my house over the years (including my bedroom suite which
includes a headboard for my bed, besides the dressers, etc). I have the
headboard carefully shimmed (where it is connected to the metal bedframe) to
counteract the angle created by raising the head of the bed frame. In other
words I shimmed it so it is perpendicular to the floor otherwise it would
look like hell. Kind of ingenious on my part I thought :-) .
Also you may have noticed your mattress tends to slide down a little on the
boxspring each day. I give it a quick shove back up each time I make the
bed :-) .
Pete
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| Howard McCollister 2006-03-24, 6:12 pm |
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"Bill Poston" <poston8[at]comcast[dot]net> wrote in message
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> Thank you.
>
> It is a real shame that something as simple as this is not known or
> understood by many sufferers of GERD and that there are many other
> simple life-style changes that can be done to help GERD.
>
> But, most people are creatures of habit, i.e., the doc is always
> right, if the doc doesn't say it I'm not gonna do it, etc. etc.
>
> And, even more sadder is that most docs are very reluctant to change
> what they learned in med school 30 or 40 years ago. For proof take a
> look at my post a few days back about h. pylori. It took over ten
> years for the medical society to accept the fact that h. pylori causes
> most digestion ulcers. And, in that respect, most docs will only treat
> h. pylori with antibiotics which is good to a point but not the end
> all treatment for h. pylori. Again most people are not even aware
> about h. pylori.
>
Of course you're aware that H. pylori has nothing to do with GERD. Right?
HMc
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| me@privacy.net 2006-03-24, 6:12 pm |
| "Pete" <pete@nospam.net> wrote:
>Also you may have noticed your mattress tends to slide down a little on the
>boxspring each day. I give it a quick shove back up each time I make the
>bed :-) .
Yep have same problem
I'm telling you all..... if someone would mass produce
a hi-tech all aluminum frame adjustable GERD bed they
could sell a lot of them!
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| Laura wrote:
> I was thinking about stopping Milk products too. Now, after you've
> said it helped you, I think I will do it!
>
> Sadly, last night, out of nowhere, I started having the chest
> pain/heartburn again (I hadn't eaten anything for about 4 hours). I
> really wanted to try some Maalox but I'm on an antibiotic for a sinus
> infection and can't take antacids 8 hours before and 4 hours after the
> antibiotic. So, I ate a plain yogurt and it stopped. How weird is
> that?
In the old days when they use to say bland diets were good for "active"
ulcers (no longer true - nor is it true that spicy food causes ulcers), milk
was one of the main front runners for relief because of its temporary
coating action. This is not to say I would pour grapefruit juice on a
bleeding ulcer :-) .
As for the milk. Wrong choice - bad idea. Milk has lots of calcium, and
calcium causes the stomach to produce gastrin, which in turn causes the
stomach to produce acid. Thats all you need is more acid if you have an
active ulcer or erosions.
The dreaded prednisone (which is extremely bad for the stomach - worse than
the NSAIDS -because of its systemic prostaglandin blocking, which interferes
with the stomach mucosa) used to say "take with milk" pasted right on the
prescription bottle. And I bet it still does in many drugstores throughout
the U.S. and maybe the world. Wrong again. Prednisone can definitely cause
stomach bleeding with extended use at higher doses, and the milk may offer
the temporary coating effect, but milk will produce stomach acid shortly
thereafter.
If you read the later info (for many years now) published, regarding peptic
ulcers, milk is right up at the top for "no-no's". Take care :-) ...Pete
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| Laura wrote:
> I was thinking about stopping Milk products too. Now, after you've
> said it helped you, I think I will do it!
>
> Sadly, last night, out of nowhere, I started having the chest
> pain/heartburn again (I hadn't eaten anything for about 4 hours). I
> really wanted to try some Maalox but I'm on an antibiotic for a sinus
> infection and can't take antacids 8 hours before and 4 hours after the
> antibiotic.
Laura...8 hours before and 4 hours after sounds like total overkill and I
have never seen the numbers that high on any antibiotic (and I have taken
all the major classes and many of the sub drugs within each class). What
are you taking. They keep getting more chicken shit as time goes on, but
that is ridiculous, and I seriously doubt they (pharma's) have any clinical
study evidence to back it up. Maybe those are British rules :-). Just my
two cents...Pete
So, I ate a plain yogurt and it stopped. How weird is
> that?
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| Tim J. 2006-03-25, 1:13 am |
| On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 10:09:44 -0600, me@privacy.net wrote:
>Bill Poston <poston8[at]comcast[dot]net> wrote:
>
>
>Agree
>
>I'm proof
I disagree.
I'm proof.
Lying flat on my back was the only thing that would stop my GERD
attacks. I only had problems with it when I was up and around. I had
a Nissen in 1999 and have been reflux free ever since. At least Bill
said "many" and not "all".
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| Tim J. 2006-03-25, 1:13 am |
| On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 12:11:37 -0500, Bill Poston
<poston8[at]comcast[dot]net> wrote:
>But, most people are creatures of habit, i.e., the doc is always
>right, if the doc doesn't say it I'm not gonna do it, etc. etc.
And some docs are wrong from time to time and just won't entertain the
possibility that they don't have all the answers.
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| Vanny 2006-03-25, 11:11 am |
| Laura,
I must add that I take calcium and vitamin D every day because I cannot
drink milk or eat cheese. I am also in the menopause so the calcium and
vitamin D are necessary to prevent menopausal osteoporosis, but exacerbated
in my case by Crohn's disease, no milk products in the diet (due to GERD and
secondary lactose intolerance due to short bowel syndrome and 2-3 litres
diarrhoea per day) in addition to intermittent steroid treatments.
If you stop milk - discuss prophylactic osteoporosis treatment with your
doctor.
Be aware that prolonged PPI use can cause vitamin B12 deficiency - a fact
overlooked by most doctors. Tablets that you can place under the tongue are
alleged to be the best thing here next to injections. I am unable to inject
vitamin B12, although I really need it due to my condition at the moment and
my vitamin B12 levels are clinically low, because the third time I injected
I had an anaphylactic shock (see www.drugs.com or www.rxlist.com for
side-effects).
I am still able to eat yoghurt and bioyoghurt is very good for replacing the
bacteria in your gut after antibiotic treatment.
All the best,
Vanny
"Laura" <shopwithlaura@gmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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I was thinking about stopping Milk products too. Now, after you've said
it helped you, I think I will do it!
Sadly, last night, out of nowhere, I started having the chest
pain/heartburn again (I hadn't eaten anything for about 4 hours). I
really wanted to try some Maalox but I'm on an antibiotic for a sinus
infection and can't take antacids 8 hours before and 4 hours after the
antibiotic. So, I ate a plain yogurt and it stopped. How weird is that?
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| Howard McCollister 2006-03-25, 11:11 am |
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"Tim J." <tj66821@usa.not> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 10:09:44 -0600, me@privacy.net wrote:
>
>
> I disagree.
>
> I'm proof.
>
> Lying flat on my back was the only thing that would stop my GERD
> attacks. I only had problems with it when I was up and around. I had
> a Nissen in 1999 and have been reflux free ever since. At least Bill
> said "many" and not "all".
>
>
Inclination of the bed (head up) has been a mainstay of GERD management
since about 1955. It works for some people, doesn't work at all for some.
It's always worth trying, however. If the cause of a patient's GERD is
inadequate baseline pressure in the LES, it may be useful. Those whose GERD
is due to transient inappropriate LES relaxation will usually see NO relief,
and some whose GERD is contributed to by some types of sliding hiatus hernia
may indeed find more relief when lying flat.
HMc
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| Laura 2006-03-25, 11:11 am |
| I'm in the US. But, you're right--I have no idea where they come up
with some of this stuff!
I'm taking Avelox 400mg once a day for three weeks. The pharmacist (who
is always very helpful) told me 2 hours before and 4 hours after is
plenty. That seems a bit more reasonable to me. I did switch the
antibiotic to first thing in the morning (I eat it with a plain yogurt)
and that frees me up for Maalox by noon. I eat another plain yogurt
later in the day.
I've been thinking about my condition and the differences between acid
and bile reflux and thought it worth asking and I think I'll check back
with the doc on Monday but in the meantime....When I had my endoscopy,
the pictures they gave me showed quite a bit of green fluid in my
stomach and a small bit through my esophagus. Is that bile? And is it
normal to have that first thing in the morning (my endo was at 7am)?
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| Bill Poston 2006-03-25, 11:11 am |
| On 24 Mar 2006 15:37:24 -0600, "Howard McCollister"
<nospam@nospam.net> wrote:
>Of course you're aware that H. pylori has nothing to do with GERD. Right?
>
>HMc
>
>
Right. But, many people confuse the burning in the stomach caused by
h. pylori with heartburn. Ask anyone to describe hearburn and you will
get many different definitions.
In my lame way, I'm trying to tell those interested enough to find an
answer that the burning in the stomach area could be h. pylori.
The majority of people suffering from heartburn have never heard about
h. pylori.
Bill Poston
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| Bill Poston 2006-03-25, 11:11 am |
|
On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 23:18:04 -0500, Tim J. <tj66821@usa.not> wrote:
>On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 10:09:44 -0600, me@privacy.net wrote:
>
[vbcol=seagreen]
>I disagree.
>
>I'm proof.
>
>Lying flat on my back was the only thing that would stop my GERD
>attacks. I only had problems with it when I was up and around. I had
>a Nissen in 1999 and have been reflux free ever since. At least Bill
>said "many" and not "all".
>
Interesting.
Possibly the 'placebo effect'.
""The physician's belief in the treatment and the patient's faith in
the physician exert a mutually reinforcing effect; the result is a
powerful remedy that is almost guaranteed to produce an improvement
and sometimes a cure." -- Petr Skrabanek and James McCormick, Follies
and Fallacies in Medicine, p. 13."
"Forty years ago, a young Seattle cardiologist named Leonard Cobb
conducted a unique trial of a procedure then commonly used for angina,
in which doctors made small incisions in the chest and tied knots in
two arteries to try to increase blood flow to the heart. It was a
popular technique -- 90 percent of patients reported that it helped --
but when Cobb compared it with placebo surgery in which he made
incisions but did not tie off the arteries, the sham operations proved
just as successful. The procedure, known as internal mammary ligation,
was soon abandoned ("The Placebo Prescription" by Margaret Talbot, New
York Times Magazine, January 9, 2000)."
see http://skepdic.com/placebo.html
So sometimes just the fact that a person has an operation, their
health problem improves.
Admittedly, everyone reacts differently to acid reflux. I have spoken
to people with acid reflux who had no pain until the acid was eating
away their gums in their mouth.
But, to give a little thought to 'acid reflux'. Common sense shows
that the acid reflux is a liquid. Gravity will pull a fluid into the
lowest point of the container holding the liquid. Therefore, a person
standing upright would normally have less acid reflux. A person laying
prone would have more acid reflux because the acid reflux liquid would
spread into the area of the stomach which was previously at the top of
the stomach. And, a person who was being held upside down by their
heels would have much more acid reflux because gravity would pull more
of the acid reflux into the bottom of the stomach and the esophagus
which in this position is now the bottom of the container holding the
liquid acid reflux.
Your condition is apparently the oddity of GERD. But, I think you will
agree that your condition was in fact an oddity.
Bill Poston
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| Tim J. 2006-03-25, 1:08 pm |
| On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 10:43:04 -0500, Bill Poston
<poston8[at]comcast[dot]net> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 23:18:04 -0500, Tim J. <tj66821@usa.not> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>Interesting.
>
>Possibly the 'placebo effect'.
>
[snip]
>
>So sometimes just the fact that a person has an operation, their
>health problem improves.
No, it wasn't the placebo effect. I had a nuclear medicine test done
(well, two of them) where I drank radioactive orange juice and they
watched through a fluoroscope to see if the OJ came back up. The
protocol of the test dictated I be lying down. They didn't record one
single instance of reflux. A week later I had the same test done, but
sitting up. They recorded dozens of reflux incidents.
>Admittedly, everyone reacts differently to acid reflux. I have spoken
>to people with acid reflux who had no pain until the acid was eating
>away their gums in their mouth.
Endoscopies subsequent to my Nissen prove that the esophageal erosion
has ended.
>But, to give a little thought to 'acid reflux'. Common sense shows
>that the acid reflux is a liquid. Gravity will pull a fluid into the
>lowest point of the container holding the liquid. Therefore, a person
>standing upright would normally have less acid reflux. A person laying
>prone would have more acid reflux because the acid reflux liquid would
>spread into the area of the stomach which was previously at the top of
>the stomach. And, a person who was being held upside down by their
>heels would have much more acid reflux because gravity would pull more
>of the acid reflux into the bottom of the stomach and the esophagus
>which in this position is now the bottom of the container holding the
>liquid acid reflux.
>
>Your condition is apparently the oddity of GERD. But, I think you will
>agree that your condition was in fact an oddity.
Yes, I will stipulate to that. My first GI doctor refused to believe
that could be the case, so I had to fire him and find another. That's
when I finally got relief.
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| Vanny wrote:
> Laura,
>
> I must add that I take calcium and vitamin D every day because I
> cannot drink milk or eat cheese. I am also in the menopause so the
> calcium and vitamin D are necessary to prevent menopausal
> osteoporosis, but exacerbated in my case by Crohn's disease, no milk
> products in the diet (due to GERD and secondary lactose intolerance
> due to short bowel syndrome and 2-3 litres diarrhoea per day) in
> addition to intermittent steroid treatments.
>
> If you stop milk - discuss prophylactic osteoporosis treatment with
> your doctor.
>
> Be aware that prolonged PPI use can cause vitamin B12 deficiency - a
> fact overlooked by most doctors. Tablets that you can place under the
> tongue are alleged to be the best thing here next to injections. I am
> unable to inject vitamin B12, although I really need it due to my
> condition at the moment and my vitamin B12 levels are clinically low,
> because the third time I injected I had an anaphylactic shock (see
> www.drugs.com or www.rxlist.com for side-effects).
>
> I am still able to eat yoghurt and bioyoghurt is very good for
> replacing the bacteria in your gut after antibiotic treatment.
Did you all know that yogurt also kills H. Pylori bacteria (I'm sure Bill
does) :-) ...Pete
>
> All the best,
>
> Vanny
>
>
> "Laura" <shopwithlaura@gmail.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:1143121297.805971.240360@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> I was thinking about stopping Milk products too. Now, after you've
> said
> it helped you, I think I will do it!
>
> Sadly, last night, out of nowhere, I started having the chest
> pain/heartburn again (I hadn't eaten anything for about 4 hours). I
> really wanted to try some Maalox but I'm on an antibiotic for a sinus
> infection and can't take antacids 8 hours before and 4 hours after the
> antibiotic. So, I ate a plain yogurt and it stopped. How weird is
> that?
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| Bill Poston 2006-03-26, 12:18 am |
| On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 12:14:42 -0500, Tim J. <tj66821@usa.not> wrote:
>
>Yes, I will stipulate to that. My first GI doctor refused to believe
>that could be the case, so I had to fire him and find another. That's
>when I finally got relief.
Welcome to the club about firing docs. I have fired three different
cardiac docs. They all want to do the angiogram because it's big
bucks. One even yelled at me that I might drop dead if I left his
office without the angiogram. I left and it's been over three years
ago.
Docs quickly forget that it's our body and our life. They can advise
and suggest we do this or that but in the end we make the final
decision.
I'm glad that you got your problem taken care of.
Bill Poston
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| Bill Poston 2006-03-26, 12:18 am |
| On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 21:33:21 -0500, "Pete" <pete@nospam.net> wrote:
>
>Did you all know that yogurt also kills H. Pylori bacteria (I'm sure Bill
>does) :-) ...Pete
>
Absolutely. I eat a natural organic yogurt every day.
Bill Poston
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| Bill Poston wrote:
> On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 12:14:42 -0500, Tim J. <tj66821@usa.not> wrote:
>
>
>
> Welcome to the club about firing docs. I have fired three different
> cardiac docs. They all want to do the angiogram because it's big
> bucks. One even yelled at me that I might drop dead if I left his
> office without the angiogram. I left and it's been over three years
> ago.
>
> Docs quickly forget that it's our body and our life. They can advise
> and suggest we do this or that but in the end we make the final
> decision.
Don't get me going on firing doc's, them firing you, or you both firing each
other mutually. Like I have said, in a small community you may run out of
doc's, especially when they all band up together in a group, and when you
lose one you lose them all :-) ...Pete
>
> I'm glad that you got your problem taken care of.
>
>
>
> Bill Poston
>
> To reply correct [at] and [dot]
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