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| Preesi 2006-03-22, 1:31 pm |
| Can I take Prilosec over top of Tagamet?
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| Preesi wrote:
> Can I take Prilosec over top of Tagamet?
Preesi...I think you should slow down on this stuff. You said you are not
interested in seeing a gastroenterologist, and now you are talking about
prilosec over tagament. I would not recommend it, and I don't know of too
many doctors that would either. Like I explained the PPI's (prilosec) are
about 10 times more effective (rough order of magnitude) than the H2
blockers (tagament). Why do you keep asking all these questions. Go back
and read all the posts you have sent :-) ...Pete
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| Preesi 2006-03-22, 1:31 pm |
| Pete wrote:
> Preesi wrote:
>
> Preesi...I think you should slow down on this stuff. You said you
> are not interested in seeing a gastroenterologist, and now you are
> talking about prilosec over tagament. I would not recommend it, and
> I don't know of too many doctors that would either. Like I explained
> the PPI's (prilosec) are about 10 times more effective (rough order
> of magnitude) than the H2 blockers (tagament). Why do you keep
> asking all these questions. Go back and read all the posts you have
> sent :-) ...Pete
Im asking ALL these questions cause Im SCARED!
Also I keep asking cause I seem to not get any answers
I never stated anywhere that I didnt wanna see a GI doc...
See this "stuff" is weird to me...
I NEVER have had any Heartburn AT ALL since I was pregnant with my son
11 yrs ago.
In fact I have been VERY healthy in the past year.
I lost 55 pounds the past 1.5 yrs.
I dont smoke, dont drink, no drugs, I dont eat sugar, cake, cookies, I
havent had spaghetti in 3 years, I occasionally eat hot sauce but not
often.
I Eat very healthy
Something doesnt feel right about this diagnosis
And meds are causing heartburn, not helping the original pain on my left
side
Where else should I ask questions?
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| Go to www.drugs.com and look up the drug interactions between Prilosec and
Tagamet. That will give you the first line information you are seeking.
However, you should be asking your doc(s) this sort of question. That is
what they are there for.
In order to ascertain whether or not you have reflux you need to undergo the
24-hour pH measurement and if this is positive then a gastroendoscopy should
be the next step to confirm GERD and to rule out Barrett's oesophagus or
cancer.
I suggest you do a search on www.groups.google.com or www.
talkaboutsupport.com for more information in the archives of this newsgroup.
I also feel that people here have given you a lot of attention and have
tried to answer your questions to the best of their abilities. However, they
cannot help you if you will not get a proper diagnosis from a doctor and
then, once GERD is confirmed, to implement the necessary lifestyle changes,
e.g. not drinking coffee, etc., etc., etc. (see my previous posts to you).
Vanny
"Preesi" <preesi@comcast.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:ptednTsCTLpShJfZRVn-gQ@comcast.com...
Can I take Prilosec over top of Tagamet?
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preesi
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Yahoo/SidekickII Name: MissPreesi
Skype: Preesi
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| Preesi 2006-03-22, 1:31 pm |
| Vanny wrote:
> Go to www.drugs.com and look up the drug interactions between
> Prilosec and Tagamet. That will give you the first line information
> you are seeking.
>
> However, you should be asking your doc(s) this sort of question. That
> is what they are there for.
>
> In order to ascertain whether or not you have reflux you need to
> undergo the 24-hour pH measurement and if this is positive then a
> gastroendoscopy should be the next step to confirm GERD and to rule
> out Barrett's oesophagus or cancer.
>
> I suggest you do a search on www.groups.google.com or www.
> talkaboutsupport.com for more information in the archives of this
> newsgroup.
>
> I also feel that people here have given you a lot of attention and
> have tried to answer your questions to the best of their abilities.
> However, they cannot help you if you will not get a proper diagnosis
> from a doctor and then, once GERD is confirmed, to implement the
> necessary lifestyle changes, e.g. not drinking coffee, etc., etc.,
> etc. (see my previous posts to you).
>
> Vanny
>
Again, where have I said that I WOULD NOT go to get a proper diagnosis?
I AM going on what my Dr told me to do. Which was the following:
"Eat 5 small meals, take Zantac and maintain ideal weight..."
When I told her that I had a bad bloody nose from Pepcid, she said,
"Better a bloody nose then a bleeding tummy!"
I just didnt feel comfortable taking Zantac so I bought Tagamet instead.
Friday morning I felt great on Tagamet, Saturday I woke up, ate an
inocuous breakfast of cheerios and felt horrible...
BUT then I come in here and when I said that my Dr said that it didnt
seem to be an ulcer since I wasnt bleeding or vomitting, someone in here
said "Oh Brother!"
Making me feel as if they thought my Dr was fulla S**t!
YOU guys are versed in this stuff, IM not, thats why Im coming here...
Thats what newsgroups are for. Help and Discussion...
Maybe I should mention that I have no family, have panic attacks etc...
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preesi
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The only thing worse then Mom Jeans, is Mom Jeans on Men!
~~~~~~~~~
My Websites and Favorite Links: http://tinyurl.com/yvw45
Yahoo/SidekickII Name: MissPreesi
Skype: Preesi
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| Preesi wrote:
> Pete wrote:
>
> Im asking ALL these questions cause Im SCARED!
> Also I keep asking cause I seem to not get any answers
Don't be scared, and I have spent a lot of time trying to explain to you
about the H2 blockers and the PPI's (more than once, and in great detail),
so I don't know why you say you don't seem to get any answers. Are you
reading our responses.
>
> I never stated anywhere that I didnt wanna see a GI doc...
Sorry Preesi...the following is what I told you earlier, followed by your
response
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Other than that, you may want to go to a gastroenterologist and ask for an
EGD, if you continue to have the pain you mention...Pete
I really dont wanna go that route yet..
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>
> See this "stuff" is weird to me...
> I NEVER have had any Heartburn AT ALL since I was pregnant with my son
> 11 yrs ago.
> In fact I have been VERY healthy in the past year.
> I lost 55 pounds the past 1.5 yrs.
> I dont smoke, dont drink, no drugs, I dont eat sugar, cake, cookies, I
> havent had spaghetti in 3 years, I occasionally eat hot sauce but not
> often.
The old myths about bland diets are passe, pertaining to causing duodenal
ulcers etc. Ulcers are not caused by spicey food, but I will not say it
would be good to eat a bunch of tomatoes or eat grapefruit if you have an
active ulcer :-) . It sounds like you are worried that you may have an
ulcer. You may not have an ulcer (and some ulcers may not even cause pain
anyway), but the only way of telling (I repeat), if you are worried about
your pain, is to go to a gastro or a general surgeon, and get an EGD.
> I Eat very healthy
> Something doesnt feel right about this diagnosis
> And meds are causing heartburn, not helping the original pain on my
> left side
This seems to be a new statement by you Preesi. What meds are causing you
heartburn. Sometimes it's not easy to follow your conversations.
>
> Where else should I ask questions?
Go ahead and keep asking, but the bottom line is an EGD by a gastro or a
general surgeon, if you continue to be concerned about your pain...Pete
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| Vanny wrote:
> Go to www.drugs.com and look up the drug interactions between
> Prilosec and Tagamet. That will give you the first line information
> you are seeking.
>
> However, you should be asking your doc(s) this sort of question. That
> is what they are there for.
>
> In order to ascertain whether or not you have reflux you need to
> undergo the 24-hour pH measurement and if this is positive then a
> gastroendoscopy should be the next step to confirm GERD and to rule
> out Barrett's oesophagus or cancer.
I would have the EGD first (which I believe most gastros would do if you are
going to them for pain symptoms). That's just my opinion. I feel its more
important to take a look at the whole upper GI tract and see if there is any
damage, or physical anomalies, first, and then do the 24 hour ph later if
gastro recommends one...Pete
>
> I suggest you do a search on www.groups.google.com or www.
> talkaboutsupport.com for more information in the archives of this
> newsgroup.
>
> I also feel that people here have given you a lot of attention and
> have tried to answer your questions to the best of their abilities.
Thank you Vanny...we have.
> However, they cannot help you if you will not get a proper diagnosis
> from a doctor and then, once GERD is confirmed, to implement the
> necessary lifestyle changes, e.g. not drinking coffee, etc., etc.,
> etc. (see my previous posts to you).
>
> Vanny
>
>
>
> "Preesi" <preesi@comcast.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
> news:ptednTsCTLpShJfZRVn-gQ@comcast.com...
> Can I take Prilosec over top of Tagamet?
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| Preesi wrote:
> Vanny wrote:
>
> Again, where have I said that I WOULD NOT go to get a proper
> diagnosis?
I have already answered this Preesi (I guess you just didn't remember saying
it). I pasted what you said in one of my other posts in this thread
(3/5/06 - 5:00 PM)...Pete
>
> I AM going on what my Dr told me to do. Which was the following:
> "Eat 5 small meals, take Zantac and maintain ideal weight..."
> When I told her that I had a bad bloody nose from Pepcid, she said,
> "Better a bloody nose then a bleeding tummy!"
> I just didnt feel comfortable taking Zantac so I bought Tagamet
> instead. Friday morning I felt great on Tagamet, Saturday I woke up,
> ate an inocuous breakfast of cheerios and felt horrible...
> BUT then I come in here and when I said that my Dr said that it didnt
> seem to be an ulcer since I wasnt bleeding or vomitting, someone in
> here said "Oh Brother!"
That someone was a very knowledgeable and dedicated doctor who volunteers a
lot of his time in this ng as well as the sci.med ng. He has given you
sound advice in his posts IMO. His statement was out of frustration I'm
sure. He is a valuable asset to the ng and we should all be thankful for
his efforts (I have told him this in my other posts). There are very few
doctors on the whole planet that volunteer there time to ng's like Howard
does...Pete
> Making me feel as if they thought my Dr was fulla S**t!
> YOU guys are versed in this stuff, IM not, thats why Im coming here...
> Thats what newsgroups are for. Help and Discussion...
>
> Maybe I should mention that I have no family, have panic attacks
> etc...
I have no family either, and live by myself with my two cats and don't have
anyone to help me except for one person. If the pain keeps bothering you,
get an EGD...Pete
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| Preesi 2006-03-22, 1:31 pm |
| Pete wrote:
> Preesi wrote:
>
> Don't be scared, and I have spent a lot of time trying to explain to
> you about the H2 blockers and the PPI's (more than once, and in great
> detail), so I don't know why you say you don't seem to get any
> answers. Are you reading our responses.
I think Im trying to find out whether I have GERD or Something else
>
>
> Sorry Preesi...the following is what I told you earlier, followed by
> your response
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
------------------------
> Other than that, you may want to go to a gastroenterologist and ask
> for an EGD, if you continue to have the pain you mention...Pete
>
> I really dont wanna go that route yet..
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
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YET, meaning until I can find out if the Zantac or Tagamet will get rid
of it...
>
> The old myths about bland diets are passe, pertaining to causing
> duodenal ulcers etc. Ulcers are not caused by spicey food, but I
> will not say it would be good to eat a bunch of tomatoes or eat
> grapefruit if you have an active ulcer :-) . It sounds like you are
> worried that you may have an ulcer. You may not have an ulcer (and
> some ulcers may not even cause pain anyway), but the only way of
> telling (I repeat), if you are worried about your pain, is to go to a
> gastro or a general surgeon, and get an EGD.
Whats that?
>
>
> This seems to be a new statement by you Preesi. What meds are
> causing you heartburn. Sometimes it's not easy to follow your
> conversations.
Pepcid, Tagamet!
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preesi
~~~~~~~~~
The only thing worse then Mom Jeans, is Mom Jeans on Men!
~~~~~~~~~
My Websites and Favorite Links: http://tinyurl.com/yvw45
Yahoo/SidekickII Name: MissPreesi
Skype: Preesi
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| When Howard replied "Oh, Brother!" that was not for you to take personally.
It was directed at what your doctor said to you. A firm diagnosis can only
be made with the relevant tests and not by your GP looking you up and down
and sticking her finger in the wind.
You need to go to a specialist - a gastroenterologist as Pete has already
told you, to find out what is wrong with your gut. In the interim, you need
to cut out anything, e.g. certain foods, alcohol, fizzy drinks, etc., that
you feel is exacerbating your condition.
You can't come to a newsgroup and expect a quick fix or to be spoon fed. You
have to be prepared to do your own literature research and invest the time
to learn about your diagnosis (of course, the first rule is to obtain a
diagnosis). We have gone the full circle with you. You are wasting our time
and your own until you get a proper medical diagnosis.
Welcome to the real world of being chronically ill - it consists of spending
days in doctor's waiting rooms, being patronised and usually being
misdiagnosed by said and generally getting frustrated with the whole
treatment. Like Pete, I have had to go from doctor to doctor and, in my
case, over the past year (i.e. in one year) I have seen over 8
gastroenterologists alone in order to obtain the correct diagnosis of short
bowel syndrome with Crohn's disease (I also have GERD, heart failure,
chronic fatigue after 6 gut operations and two other pelvic operations).
I refer you to this article that explains what to expect when dealing with
chronic illness
http://www.alpineguild.com/COPING%2...%20ILLNESS.html
and I wish you all the best in your quest for a diagnosis.
Vanny
"Preesi" <preesi@comcast.net> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
news:T5KdnRuKWfO2YZfZnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@comcast.com...
Vanny wrote:
> Go to www.drugs.com and look up the drug interactions between
> Prilosec and Tagamet. That will give you the first line information
> you are seeking.
>
> However, you should be asking your doc(s) this sort of question. That
> is what they are there for.
>
> In order to ascertain whether or not you have reflux you need to
> undergo the 24-hour pH measurement and if this is positive then a
> gastroendoscopy should be the next step to confirm GERD and to rule
> out Barrett's oesophagus or cancer.
>
> I suggest you do a search on www.groups.google.com or www.
> talkaboutsupport.com for more information in the archives of this
> newsgroup.
>
> I also feel that people here have given you a lot of attention and
> have tried to answer your questions to the best of their abilities.
> However, they cannot help you if you will not get a proper diagnosis
> from a doctor and then, once GERD is confirmed, to implement the
> necessary lifestyle changes, e.g. not drinking coffee, etc., etc.,
> etc. (see my previous posts to you).
>
> Vanny
>
Again, where have I said that I WOULD NOT go to get a proper diagnosis?
I AM going on what my Dr told me to do. Which was the following:
"Eat 5 small meals, take Zantac and maintain ideal weight..."
When I told her that I had a bad bloody nose from Pepcid, she said,
"Better a bloody nose then a bleeding tummy!"
I just didnt feel comfortable taking Zantac so I bought Tagamet instead.
Friday morning I felt great on Tagamet, Saturday I woke up, ate an
inocuous breakfast of cheerios and felt horrible...
BUT then I come in here and when I said that my Dr said that it didnt
seem to be an ulcer since I wasnt bleeding or vomitting, someone in here
said "Oh Brother!"
Making me feel as if they thought my Dr was fulla S**t!
YOU guys are versed in this stuff, IM not, thats why Im coming here...
Thats what newsgroups are for. Help and Discussion...
Maybe I should mention that I have no family, have panic attacks etc...
--
preesi
~~~~~~~~~
The only thing worse then Mom Jeans, is Mom Jeans on Men!
~~~~~~~~~
My Websites and Favorite Links: http://tinyurl.com/yvw45
Yahoo/SidekickII Name: MissPreesi
Skype: Preesi
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| Preesi wrote:
> Pete wrote:
>
> I think Im trying to find out whether I have GERD or Something else
>
>
> YET, meaning until I can find out if the Zantac or Tagamet will get
> rid of it...
>
>
>
> Whats that?
Preesi...You are letting us down here. I have used the term EGD over and
over and you are just now asking what it is. It is obvious when we write
stuff to you, that you are not reading it and understanding it, or you just
pay attention to what you want to at the time. All you had to do was google
"EGD" and you would have found 718,000 hits.
[[Esophagogastroduodenoscopy (EGD) is an examination of the lining of the
esophagus, stomach, and upper duodenum with a small camera (flexible
endoscope) which is inserted down the throat.]]
Now, in closing I will say this, and then I have had it. Howard (our good
doctor) has recommended that you try a 30 day trial of one of the PPI's (via
your doctor), and I said I am sure you can get some free samples from your
primary care doctor. You have not acknowledged that and keep talking about
pepcid, zantac and tagament all the time.
I have explained in great detail (several times) the differences between the
PPI's and the H2 blockers and I think it went in one ear and out the other,
since you are just now asking me what an EGD is.
Try the PPI's for 30 days (they will work much sooner than that, but doctors
like to do the 30 day stuff), and if that doesn't help than you need to go
to a general surgeon or a gastroenterolologist and get an EGD, if your pain
continues. It's that simple. They will be more than glad to give you an
EGD [gastros live on EGD's and colonoscopies - it's a significant part of
their boat payments :-)].
I like you Preesi, but we have to stop this. I believe you are way
healthier than Vanny and me, and you have stated that your health in general
is good. So if you are worried about the pain, do what I suggested. I am
not a doctor, but what I said is somewhat common sense. Take care.
Pete
>
> Pepcid, Tagamet!
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| Preesi 2006-03-22, 1:31 pm |
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Look I have an appointment with a GI and for the tests my Dr ordered.
If I called her to get a PPI shed tell me to get the tests she ordered
first..
Maybe Im not making sense cause I feel so bad and my heads foggy..
I also have this weird cold thing going on that I cant shake
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preesi
~~~~~~~~~
The only thing worse then Mom Jeans, is Mom Jeans on Men!
~~~~~~~~~
My Websites and Favorite Links: http://tinyurl.com/yvw45
Yahoo/SidekickII Name: MissPreesi
Skype: Preesi
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