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Preesi

2006-02-27, 12:55 am

Is there any OTHER things that cause pain in the tummy?
Its not sharp or stabbing pain.
(I havent had any all day)

IF I do have GERD, can I still have treats occasionally?

I cannot give up coffee. How can people live with gerd and coffee?

I did not take Pepcid today, My left nostril would not stop bleeding.
It also made me feel VERY ODD. I took it YEARS ago and I forgot about
all that, Ill NEVER take that again... Anyone else feel odd on it?

Is it possible I just ate too much for a few weeks and overdid it and
this is temporary?

Can gerd give you chills, and tire you out?

I really havent had heartburn at all.

Has anyone noticed that Sugar Alcohols (polyols) make gerd worse?


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Howard McCollister

2006-02-27, 12:55 am


"Preesi" <preesi@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:OqadnV2IO8F00Z_ZnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Is there any OTHER things that cause pain in the tummy?
> Its not sharp or stabbing pain.
> (I havent had any all day)
>
> IF I do have GERD, can I still have treats occasionally?
>
> I cannot give up coffee. How can people live with gerd and coffee?
>
> I did not take Pepcid today, My left nostril would not stop bleeding.
> It also made me feel VERY ODD. I took it YEARS ago and I forgot about
> all that, Ill NEVER take that again... Anyone else feel odd on it?
>
> Is it possible I just ate too much for a few weeks and overdid it and
> this is temporary?
>
> Can gerd give you chills, and tire you out?
>
> I really havent had heartburn at all.
>
> Has anyone noticed that Sugar Alcohols (polyols) make gerd worse?
>



Only about 40% of people with GERD have symptoms we typically think of as
heartburn.

GERD is definitely exacerbated by caffiene. Decaffienated coffee is usually
OK.

No, it doesn't have to be sharp or stabbing pain. Yes MANY other things can
cause midepigastric pain.

HMc



jmc

2006-02-27, 12:55 am

Suddenly, without warning, Howard McCollister exclaimed (27-Feb-06 2:04 AM):
> "Preesi" <preesi@comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:OqadnV2IO8F00Z_ZnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>
>
> Only about 40% of people with GERD have symptoms we typically think of as
> heartburn.
>

Like me. I believe now I've had it for years and didn't know it until
it evolved into chest pains. Mostly, I get "the cough", sometimes mild
stomach or chest pain, a bad taste in the back of my throat, only very
occasionally would I get real reflux where acid would come up into my
throat.

I'm on Lansoprazole, which seems to be controlling the symptoms well.

Incidentally, I get chills and tiredness too, but I've never heard that
they could be related to GERD. You're not female (like me), by chance?

> GERD is definitely exacerbated by caffiene. Decaffienated coffee is usually
> OK.


And, you CAN quit caffeine. I did. It was hard, but I had to not for
GERD, but for heart problems. Took me about two months. What seemed
to help for me was replacing my daily coffee or soda with a ginseng tea.
>
> No, it doesn't have to be sharp or stabbing pain. Yes MANY other things can
> cause midepigastric pain.
>

Ok, we're impressed by your big words That's pain in the upper stomach?

> HMc
>
>
>

Preesi

2006-02-27, 5:54 pm

jmc wrote:
> Suddenly, without warning, Howard McCollister exclaimed (27-Feb-06
> 2:04 AM):
> Like me. I believe now I've had it for years and didn't know it until
> it evolved into chest pains. Mostly, I get "the cough", sometimes
> mild stomach or chest pain, a bad taste in the back of my throat,
> only very occasionally would I get real reflux where acid would come
> up into my throat.
>
> I'm on Lansoprazole, which seems to be controlling the symptoms well.
>
> Incidentally, I get chills and tiredness too, but I've never heard
> that they could be related to GERD. You're not female (like me), by
> chance?


Yep Im a female.
I think its a combo of my sons cold, pms, and drinking alot of fresh
brewed black coffee (instant coffee is not a problem but doesnt get me
going as good as fresh)
I also have a headache that I think was a result of the Pepcid nosebleed
(I have recurrent sinus problems)

I dunno whats going on...
I JUST had a physical and everything was great,SOOOOO
Your guess is as good as mine

[vbcol=seagreen]
>
>
> And, you CAN quit caffeine. I did. It was hard, but I had to not for
> GERD, but for heart problems. Took me about two months. What seemed
> to help for me was replacing my daily coffee or soda with a ginseng
> tea.

I cant, Ive tried, but I wont be ME. Ill be a lump

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jmc

2006-02-28, 10:55 am

Suddenly, without warning, Preesi exclaimed (27-Feb-06 8:47 PM):
> jmc wrote:
>
> Yep Im a female.
> I think its a combo of my sons cold, pms, and drinking alot of fresh
> brewed black coffee (instant coffee is not a problem but doesnt get me
> going as good as fresh)
> I also have a headache that I think was a result of the Pepcid nosebleed
> (I have recurrent sinus problems)
>
> I dunno whats going on...
> I JUST had a physical and everything was great,SOOOOO
> Your guess is as good as mine
>
>
>
> I cant, Ive tried, but I wont be ME. Ill be a lump
>


This may sound harsh, but that's a cop-out. You are truly an addict,
but then so was I. Withdrawal is tough, but it's not heroin, after all,
it won't kill you. I use a small bit of Flexall on my forehead,
temples, and the back of my neck when I get a withdrawal headache,
doesn't work for long but does help.

Don't let anybody tell you caffeine isn't addictive. It is, I've even
had a doctor tell me this. Maybe do some googling for methods for
quitting smoking, and see if you can modify them for your use. Too bad
there's no such thing as caffeine patches, but there is such a thing as
caffeine gum!

Try it slowly. Count your average, then drink one less a day for two
weeks. Then one less than that. Drink what I call haf-caf - I mixed
half decaf and half caffeinated. But don't drink MORE of it. Find a
support group - or a friend who also wants to quit the addiction. I did
it by myself, but it sounds like you'll need some help. Drink lots of
water, and pretend it's coffee

If, as Howard says, caffeine exacerbates GERD, you're going to have
problems until you quit. You'll feel better for it, not chained to that
morning cup of coffee.

I broke the caffeine addiction a couple of years ago. I *still* have
cravings for coffee during PMS, but I still try to avoid it because I've
become ultra-sensitive to caffeine - decaf has a small amount still, and
if I drink two cups my heart tells me about it (which is the reason I
had to quit: palpitations and arrhythmias - I didn't know I had GERD
until more recently).

And if I drink a soda a day for three days running, I'm addicted and
have to quit again - tho the headache only lasts a day or two. Because
of the palpitations that rarely happens though.

I now drink almost nothing but water - 2 liters (or litres, depending on
where you are) a day. Herbal teas. Sometimes I'll have hot chocolate,
but theobromide isn't *exactly* caffeine and doesn't seem to bother me.

Good luck! I bet if you can stay away from caffeine for two weeks, or
at least significantly lower your consumption, you'll find your gut
problems get better, and that'll help you go the rest of the way!

jmc
Preesi

2006-02-28, 5:53 pm

jmc wrote:
> Suddenly, without warning, Preesi exclaimed (27-Feb-06 8:47 PM):
>
> This may sound harsh, but that's a cop-out. You are truly an addict,
> but then so was I. Withdrawal is tough, but it's not heroin, after
> all, it won't kill you. I use a small bit of Flexall on my forehead,
> temples, and the back of my neck when I get a withdrawal headache,
> doesn't work for long but does help.
>
> Don't let anybody tell you caffeine isn't addictive. It is, I've even
> had a doctor tell me this. Maybe do some googling for methods for
> quitting smoking, and see if you can modify them for your use. Too
> bad there's no such thing as caffeine patches, but there is such a
> thing as caffeine gum!
>
> Try it slowly. Count your average, then drink one less a day for two
> weeks. Then one less than that. Drink what I call haf-caf - I mixed
> half decaf and half caffeinated. But don't drink MORE of it. Find a
> support group - or a friend who also wants to quit the addiction. I
> did it by myself, but it sounds like you'll need some help. Drink
> lots of water, and pretend it's coffee
>
> If, as Howard says, caffeine exacerbates GERD, you're going to have
> problems until you quit. You'll feel better for it, not chained to
> that morning cup of coffee.
>
> I broke the caffeine addiction a couple of years ago. I *still* have
> cravings for coffee during PMS, but I still try to avoid it because
> I've become ultra-sensitive to caffeine - decaf has a small amount
> still, and if I drink two cups my heart tells me about it (which is
> the reason I had to quit: palpitations and arrhythmias - I didn't
> know I had GERD until more recently).
>
> And if I drink a soda a day for three days running, I'm addicted and
> have to quit again - tho the headache only lasts a day or two.
> Because of the palpitations that rarely happens though.
>
> I now drink almost nothing but water - 2 liters (or litres, depending
> on where you are) a day. Herbal teas. Sometimes I'll have hot
> chocolate, but theobromide isn't *exactly* caffeine and doesn't seem
> to bother me.
>
> Good luck! I bet if you can stay away from caffeine for two weeks, or
> at least significantly lower your consumption, you'll find your gut
> problems get better, and that'll help you go the rest of the way!
>
> jmc


I DID get off coffee for a month...
I slept all day, wasnt sharp headed, a virtual lump!
I then had a cup of instant coffee and was fine.
One morning I treated myself to fresh brewed.
I felt great for 2 weeks... Then I had an allergy attck and stomach
pain...


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jmc

2006-03-01, 12:55 am

Suddenly, without warning, Preesi exclaimed (28-Feb-06 8:17 PM):
> jmc wrote:
>
> I DID get off coffee for a month...
> I slept all day, wasnt sharp headed, a virtual lump!
> I then had a cup of instant coffee and was fine.
> One morning I treated myself to fresh brewed.
> I felt great for 2 weeks... Then I had an allergy attck and stomach
> pain...
>
>


Well, of course you're not going to be able to heal yourself with that
attitude. You really are an addict, and are probably drinking a heck of
a lot more coffee than I was, so it'd stand to reason it'll take longer.
The lumpiness is just withdrawal, your body has to get used to not
having the caffeine.

But until you convince yourself that you *need* to quit caffeine rather
than *needing* to drink it, you won't be successful in the long run and
will continue to have stomach problems.

jmc
Preesi

2006-03-01, 10:56 am

jmc wrote:
> Suddenly, without warning, Preesi exclaimed (28-Feb-06 8:17 PM):
>
> Well, of course you're not going to be able to heal yourself with that
> attitude. You really are an addict, and are probably drinking a heck
> of a lot more coffee than I was, so it'd stand to reason it'll take
> longer. The lumpiness is just withdrawal, your body has to get
> used to not having the caffeine.
>
> But until you convince yourself that you *need* to quit caffeine
> rather than *needing* to drink it, you won't be successful in the
> long run and will continue to have stomach problems.
>
> jmc


On the contrary...
I drink instant coffee, 1 or 2 cups..
Instant has 1/3rd the amount of caffeine as fresh brewed...
Its very very weak.
I just need that tiny JOLT.
BUT I ask you this...
Do you think that you were developing an allergy to caffeine BEFORE your
GERD diagnosis?



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preesi
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~~~~~~~~~
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Yahoo/SidekickII Name: MissPreesi
Skype: Preesi


jmc

2006-03-01, 10:56 am

Suddenly, without warning, Preesi exclaimed (01-Mar-06 2:20 PM):
> jmc wrote:
>
> On the contrary...
> I drink instant coffee, 1 or 2 cups..
> Instant has 1/3rd the amount of caffeine as fresh brewed...
> Its very very weak.
> I just need that tiny JOLT.
> BUT I ask you this...
> Do you think that you were developing an allergy to caffeine BEFORE your
> GERD diagnosis?
>
>
>

Yes, and no. It's not an allergy though, I've just become sensitive to
it - or rather my heart has. I had to quit coffee well before I was
diagnosed with GERD, but at the same time I was quite likely having
symptoms and didn't know it yet (cough, bad taste in throat).

jmc
Preesi

2006-03-01, 5:53 pm

jmc wrote:
> Suddenly, without warning, Preesi exclaimed (01-Mar-06 2:20 PM):
> Yes, and no. It's not an allergy though, I've just become sensitive
> to it - or rather my heart has. I had to quit coffee well before I
> was diagnosed with GERD, but at the same time I was quite likely
> having symptoms and didn't know it yet (cough, bad taste in throat).
>
> jmc


btw- I ask about the allergy thing because I know that the coffee beans
that go into instant are different then the ground fresh coffee and I
wonder if the fresh brewed has more allergic properties then the instant


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