Chronic pain Support - My (audult) daughter

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My (audult) daughter

Grampa Gus

2006-04-07, 6:15 pm

Hi all

Last night my daughter and I discussed my moving from CA to NC sooner rather
than later. She told me that when she and her half-brother were passing a
Senior's Community, he (15YO) said, "Why don't we put your father there so
we could help him?" My daughter said that she was so moved by this she had
to pull off the road and cry, and thank him. I do believe the chances are
good that someday I'll make the move.

For right now though, I've spent a year with new doctors (having just moved
from near San Jose CA to S CA) that it took two or three months to find. And
now that I've spent a year with my new pain doctor, not having asked for
more pills even once. So last month when I went there & told her just how
bad things were for me, she added a new anti-seizure med to my cocktail.
It's made a moderate difference, enough that it does provide maybe 20% more
relief than I was getting before. Part of it is my fault, I've wanted to
believe I was going to get better living in an Assisted Living Facility
(ALF) than has turned out to be the case.

Sadly, regarding the difference between the ALF's brochure, and what really
goes on here, are two very different thing. First there's the fight of
resisting institutionalization and second is that this place is run like any
other profit center. They are always looking for ways to cut expenses, we
used to be able to get our coffee (travel) mugs filled after meals to take
to the courtyard for visiting, reading, &etc. Now they won't do it anymore;
staff continues seeking ways to cut costs. (Anyone whose ever worked in a
factory or at the upper levels of a corporation, or other experiences, will
know that the only thing that matters is the bottom line. Tragically, most
people use the ALF as a kennel for their parents, only this time the "pets"
learn that their owners aren't coming back. At least 80% of those here don't
get any visitors. For those who do have family, when they call their
relatives to complain about the place; staff lies to them about what's going
on, ie grampa is getting up in years and is difficult to work with, and
remember, that's why you put him here. Very few actually come to check, but
for those who do they can effect change.

I've four times now watched, otherwise healthy people (I know because they
told me, and were visibly healthy with agile minds), come here, and die
within three weeks. One was a priest who wanted to finish a book he'd been
working on. That's how destructive institutionalization can be. One day
someone is still at home in the middle of life, family, things to take up
their time, and mainly being a part of something. Coming here is to be
totally picked up from the game board of life and warehoused.

Anyway, I guess I'm rambling having had another poor sleep last night. But I
do want to say thanks to those who've helped and supported me all along. I
don't know how I could manage without you.

BTW, I dropped about 20 neurontin in the kitchen sink today, fortunately I
could retrieve them. (My point being that it does happen sometimes.)

Well, I have many ideas floating around my mind but can't seem to light on
one. So I'll say hello, and best wishes to all.

Grampa Gus

LooseCannon

2006-04-07, 6:15 pm

Grampa Gus wrote:

> Hi all
>
> Last night my daughter and I discussed my moving from CA to NC sooner rather
> than later. She told me that when she and her half-brother were passing a
> Senior's Community, he (15YO) said, "Why don't we put your father there so
> we could help him?" My daughter said that she was so moved by this she had
> to pull off the road and cry, and thank him. I do believe the chances are
> good that someday I'll make the move.

This sounds good! Your daugher sounds like a gem.

>
> For right now though, I've spent a year with new doctors (having just moved
> from near San Jose CA to S CA) that it took two or three months to find. And
> now that I've spent a year with my new pain doctor, not having asked for
> more pills even once. So last month when I went there & told her just how
> bad things were for me, she added a new anti-seizure med to my cocktail.
> It's made a moderate difference, enough that it does provide maybe 20% more
> relief than I was getting before. Part of it is my fault, I've wanted to
> believe I was going to get better living in an Assisted Living Facility
> (ALF) than has turned out to be the case.

Sorry to hear it.

>
> Sadly, regarding the difference between the ALF's brochure, and what really
> goes on here, are two very different thing. First there's the fight of
> resisting institutionalization and second is that this place is run like any
> other profit center. They are always looking for ways to cut expenses, we
> used to be able to get our coffee (travel) mugs filled after meals to take
> to the courtyard for visiting, reading, &etc. Now they won't do it anymore;
> staff continues seeking ways to cut costs. (Anyone whose ever worked in a
> factory or at the upper levels of a corporation, or other experiences, will
> know that the only thing that matters is the bottom line. Tragically, most
> people use the ALF as a kennel for their parents, only this time the "pets"
> learn that their owners aren't coming back. At least 80% of those here don't
> get any visitors. For those who do have family, when they call their
> relatives to complain about the place; staff lies to them about what's going
> on, ie grampa is getting up in years and is difficult to work with, and
> remember, that's why you put him here. Very few actually come to check, but
> for those who do they can effect change.

Wow, GG, how disturbing. I dont think I could handle such treatment.
And cutting back on such simple pleasures like coffee, just to turn an
extra buck? Did they somewhere forget that they were dealing w/human
beings there? What assholes.

>
> I've four times now watched, otherwise healthy people (I know because they
> told me, and were visibly healthy with agile minds), come here, and die
> within three weeks. One was a priest who wanted to finish a book he'd been
> working on. That's how destructive institutionalization can be. One day
> someone is still at home in the middle of life, family, things to take up
> their time, and mainly being a part of something. Coming here is to be
> totally picked up from the game board of life and warehoused.

Chilling.

>
> Anyway, I guess I'm rambling having had another poor sleep last night. But I
> do want to say thanks to those who've helped and supported me all along. I
> don't know how I could manage without you.

Yer one of the good guys, GG, and you and your presence here is always
missed.

>
> BTW, I dropped about 20 neurontin in the kitchen sink today, fortunately I
> could retrieve them. (My point being that it does happen sometimes.)

Glad you got em!!

>
> Well, I have many ideas floating around my mind but can't seem to light on
> one. So I'll say hello, and best wishes to all.

Hell back atcha!

>
> Grampa Gus
>
>

Legend

2006-04-08, 1:12 am

Always good to hear from you, Gus!!!

Your daughter DOES sound great-concerned for you, and everything. But
befor moving, I'd make sure that1)the Senior Center that your daughter
has in mind has some advantages over the ALF you're living in now, and
2) you have access to a doctor who will maintain you with the medicines
that make you comfortable now.

I don't want to bring you down, but it sounds like you wouldn't be able
to move right away, anyway. Just make sure you don't make a blind leap
of faith, possibly burning your bridges behind you. Because it's hard
getting the meds we need, and, if it took you 3 months to get
stabilized in california, it may take longer in a traditionally more
conservative state like NC.

Ok, I won't bring you down anymore. I'll just wish you a close-as
possible to pain-free night as possible.

-Legend

Grampa Gus wrote:
> Hi all
>
> Last night my daughter and I discussed my moving from CA to NC sooner rather
> than later. She told me that when she and her half-brother were passing a
> Senior's Community, he (15YO) said, "Why don't we put your father there so
> we could help him?" My daughter said that she was so moved by this she had
> to pull off the road and cry, and thank him. I do believe the chances are
> good that someday I'll make the move.
>
> For right now though, I've spent a year with new doctors (having just moved
> from near San Jose CA to S CA) that it took two or three months to find. And
> now that I've spent a year with my new pain doctor, not having asked for
> more pills even once. So last month when I went there & told her just how
> bad things were for me, she added a new anti-seizure med to my cocktail.
> It's made a moderate difference, enough that it does provide maybe 20% more
> relief than I was getting before. Part of it is my fault, I've wanted to
> believe I was going to get better living in an Assisted Living Facility
> (ALF) than has turned out to be the case.
>
> Sadly, regarding the difference between the ALF's brochure, and what really
> goes on here, are two very different thing. First there's the fight of
> resisting institutionalization and second is that this place is run like any
> other profit center. They are always looking for ways to cut expenses, we
> used to be able to get our coffee (travel) mugs filled after meals to take
> to the courtyard for visiting, reading, &etc. Now they won't do it anymore;
> staff continues seeking ways to cut costs. (Anyone whose ever worked in a
> factory or at the upper levels of a corporation, or other experiences, will
> know that the only thing that matters is the bottom line. Tragically, most
> people use the ALF as a kennel for their parents, only this time the "pets"
> learn that their owners aren't coming back. At least 80% of those here don't
> get any visitors. For those who do have family, when they call their
> relatives to complain about the place; staff lies to them about what's going
> on, ie grampa is getting up in years and is difficult to work with, and
> remember, that's why you put him here. Very few actually come to check, but
> for those who do they can effect change.
>
> I've four times now watched, otherwise healthy people (I know because they
> told me, and were visibly healthy with agile minds), come here, and die
> within three weeks. One was a priest who wanted to finish a book he'd been
> working on. That's how destructive institutionalization can be. One day
> someone is still at home in the middle of life, family, things to take up
> their time, and mainly being a part of something. Coming here is to be
> totally picked up from the game board of life and warehoused.
>
> Anyway, I guess I'm rambling having had another poor sleep last night. But I
> do want to say thanks to those who've helped and supported me all along. I
> don't know how I could manage without you.
>
> BTW, I dropped about 20 neurontin in the kitchen sink today, fortunately I
> could retrieve them. (My point being that it does happen sometimes.)
>
> Well, I have many ideas floating around my mind but can't seem to light on
> one. So I'll say hello, and best wishes to all.
>
> Grampa Gus

Zombywoof

2006-04-08, 1:12 am

On Fri, 07 Apr 2006 21:50:46 GMT, "Grampa Gus" <starob@att.net> wrote:

>Hi all
>
>Last night my daughter and I discussed my moving from CA to NC sooner rather
>than later. She told me that when she and her half-brother were passing a
>Senior's Community, he (15YO) said, "Why don't we put your father there so
>we could help him?" My daughter said that she was so moved by this she had
>to pull off the road and cry, and thank him. I do believe the chances are
>good that someday I'll make the move.
>
>For right now though, I've spent a year with new doctors (having just moved
>from near San Jose CA to S CA) that it took two or three months to find. And
>now that I've spent a year with my new pain doctor, not having asked for
>more pills even once. So last month when I went there & told her just how
>bad things were for me, she added a new anti-seizure med to my cocktail.
>It's made a moderate difference, enough that it does provide maybe 20% more
>relief than I was getting before. Part of it is my fault, I've wanted to
>believe I was going to get better living in an Assisted Living Facility
>(ALF) than has turned out to be the case.
>
>Sadly, regarding the difference between the ALF's brochure, and what really
>goes on here, are two very different thing. First there's the fight of
>resisting institutionalization and second is that this place is run like any
>other profit center. They are always looking for ways to cut expenses, we
>used to be able to get our coffee (travel) mugs filled after meals to take
>to the courtyard for visiting, reading, &etc. Now they won't do it anymore;
>staff continues seeking ways to cut costs. (Anyone whose ever worked in a
>factory or at the upper levels of a corporation, or other experiences, will
>know that the only thing that matters is the bottom line. Tragically, most
>people use the ALF as a kennel for their parents, only this time the "pets"
>learn that their owners aren't coming back. At least 80% of those here don't
>get any visitors. For those who do have family, when they call their
>relatives to complain about the place; staff lies to them about what's going
>on, ie grampa is getting up in years and is difficult to work with, and
>remember, that's why you put him here. Very few actually come to check, but
>for those who do they can effect change.
>
> I've four times now watched, otherwise healthy people (I know because they
>told me, and were visibly healthy with agile minds), come here, and die
>within three weeks. One was a priest who wanted to finish a book he'd been
>working on. That's how destructive institutionalization can be. One day
>someone is still at home in the middle of life, family, things to take up
>their time, and mainly being a part of something. Coming here is to be
>totally picked up from the game board of life and warehoused.
>
>Anyway, I guess I'm rambling having had another poor sleep last night. But I
>do want to say thanks to those who've helped and supported me all along. I
>don't know how I could manage without you.
>
>BTW, I dropped about 20 neurontin in the kitchen sink today, fortunately I
>could retrieve them. (My point being that it does happen sometimes.)
>
>Well, I have many ideas floating around my mind but can't seem to light on
>one. So I'll say hello, and best wishes to all.
>
>Grampa Gus
>
I can understand your frustration and even at certain level empathize
with it. I know that you've had a rough go of it and changing Dr's
sucks rats XXX, but I truly think you would be better around some
family members Gus.

I am still pretty annoyed with my mothers decision to warehouse my
Grandma when my wife and I were more then willing & even able to take
her into our home. Ya it would have been a tad of a burden, but hells
bells she was my grandmother for christ's sake. I think if we had
taken her in instead of allowing my Mom & Aunt to warehouse her she
would still be alive today. All of us need to have some purpose in
our lives. Some reason for getting up & out in the morning.

If your daughters half-brother at 15 is mature enough to realize that
wouldn't you like to spend some time with the little whipper snapper?
I don't know about you, but when I am around younger folks I feel
younger myself. Matter of fact come the end of the month I'm going to
go party nekkid with a bunch of college kids for the weekend. It
ought to be a blast.
--

Only way to beat terrorist is to use terrorist tactics...set traps, snipers.
No amount of conventional warfare will work...

Doug

2006-04-08, 1:12 am

"Grampa Gus" <starob@att.net> wrote in message
news:W8BZf.702527$qk4.127326@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> Hi all
>
> Last night my daughter and I discussed my moving from CA to NC sooner
> rather than later. She told me that when she and her half-brother were
> passing a Senior's Community, he (15YO) said, "Why don't we put your
> father there so we could help him?" My daughter said that she was so moved
> by this she had to pull off the road and cry, and thank him. I do believe
> the chances are good that someday I'll make the move.
>
> For right now though, I've spent a year with new doctors (having just
> moved from near San Jose CA to S CA) that it took two or three months to
> find. And now that I've spent a year with my new pain doctor, not having
> asked for more pills even once. So last month when I went there & told her
> just how bad things were for me, she added a new anti-seizure med to my
> cocktail. It's made a moderate difference, enough that it does provide
> maybe 20% more relief than I was getting before. Part of it is my fault,
> I've wanted to believe I was going to get better living in an Assisted
> Living Facility (ALF) than has turned out to be the case.
>
> Sadly, regarding the difference between the ALF's brochure, and what
> really goes on here, are two very different thing. First there's the fight
> of resisting institutionalization and second is that this place is run
> like any other profit center. They are always looking for ways to cut
> expenses, we used to be able to get our coffee (travel) mugs filled after
> meals to take to the courtyard for visiting, reading, &etc. Now they won't
> do it anymore; staff continues seeking ways to cut costs. (Anyone whose
> ever worked in a factory or at the upper levels of a corporation, or other
> experiences, will know that the only thing that matters is the bottom
> line. Tragically, most people use the ALF as a kennel for their parents,
> only this time the "pets" learn that their owners aren't coming back. At
> least 80% of those here don't get any visitors. For those who do have
> family, when they call their relatives to complain about the place; staff
> lies to them about what's going on, ie grampa is getting up in years and
> is difficult to work with, and remember, that's why you put him here. Very
> few actually come to check, but for those who do they can effect change.
>
> I've four times now watched, otherwise healthy people (I know because they
> told me, and were visibly healthy with agile minds), come here, and die
> within three weeks. One was a priest who wanted to finish a book he'd been
> working on. That's how destructive institutionalization can be. One day
> someone is still at home in the middle of life, family, things to take up
> their time, and mainly being a part of something. Coming here is to be
> totally picked up from the game board of life and warehoused.
>
> Anyway, I guess I'm rambling having had another poor sleep last night. But
> I do want to say thanks to those who've helped and supported me all along.
> I don't know how I could manage without you.
>
> BTW, I dropped about 20 neurontin in the kitchen sink today, fortunately I
> could retrieve them. (My point being that it does happen sometimes.)
>
> Well, I have many ideas floating around my mind but can't seem to light on
> one. So I'll say hello, and best wishes to all.
>
> Grampa Gus

I wish you all the best,no matter what path you may choose.

It is nice to have family living closer .

I am sure you will make the right decision

All the best
Doug

Zombywoof

2006-04-08, 1:12 am

On 7 Apr 2006 17:26:48 -0700, "Legend" <the_warrior@surfy.net> wrote:

>Always good to hear from you, Gus!!!
>
>Your daughter DOES sound great-concerned for you, and everything. But
>befor moving, I'd make sure that1)the Senior Center that your daughter
>has in mind has some advantages over the ALF you're living in now, and
>2) you have access to a doctor who will maintain you with the medicines
>that make you comfortable now.
>
Who the hell wants to live with ALF. Semi funny, but I bet he smells
like a wet dog.

>I don't want to bring you down, but it sounds like you wouldn't be able
>to move right away, anyway. Just make sure you don't make a blind leap
>of faith, possibly burning your bridges behind you. Because it's hard
>getting the meds we need, and, if it took you 3 months to get
>stabilized in california, it may take longer in a traditionally more
>conservative state like NC.
>
I personally would not overly concern myslelf with access to "drugs"
over more traditional quality of life issues such as being around
people who love & care for me and a decent cup of coffee.

I have to agree making any type of blind leap is dangerous, but most
people are able to make pretty good informed decisions.

--

Only way to beat terrorist is to use terrorist tactics...set traps, snipers.
No amount of conventional warfare will work...

Legend

2006-04-08, 1:12 am

Can;t you keep bugging me on a "support' thread? Gus is one of the
first people who reached out to me.
ALF means Assisted Living facility(if you'd bothered to read Gus'
original post, you'd know that. But obviously your contempt for me has
exceeded your wish to support Gus. I was simply pointing out pros and
cons that gus should consider. And what about you, living comfortably
with your family, able to hold a job, and yet YOU can;t give up the
oxy's???

You've hit a new low, ZW.

Sorry if this upsets you, Gus, but he's been jumping down my throat on
every type of thread, no matter who or what it concerns. But remember
who started it, and the fact that I've never wished you anything but
the best. That's why I warned you to check out two things that are
important to us, like it or not; the fact that you may be switching one
living arrangement for another, and the importance of having the
option of having the same level of pain relief (I believe you, ZW,
brought up the term "drugs" on this thread; or are you joining the
abusers, that are trying to call Gus an abuser)?

Sorry I had too rant on your thread, Gus. I wish youthe best.

-Legend

Zombywoof wrote:
> On 7 Apr 2006 17:26:48 -0700, "Legend" <the_warrior@surfy.net> wrote:
>
> Who the hell wants to live with ALF. Semi funny, but I bet he smells
> like a wet dog.
>
> I personally would not overly concern myslelf with access to "drugs"
> over more traditional quality of life issues such as being around
> people who love & care for me and a decent cup of coffee.
>
> I have to agree making any type of blind leap is dangerous, but most
> people are able to make pretty good informed decisions.
>
> --
>
> Only way to beat terrorist is to use terrorist tactics...set traps, snipers.
> No amount of conventional warfare will work...

Zombywoof

2006-04-08, 1:12 am

On 7 Apr 2006 20:33:50 -0700, "Legend" <the_warrior@surfy.net> wrote:

>Can;t you keep bugging me on a "support' thread? Gus is one of the
>first people who reached out to me.
>ALF means Assisted Living facility(if you'd bothered to read Gus'
>original post, you'd know that. But obviously your contempt for me has
>exceeded your wish to support Gus. I was simply pointing out pros and
>cons that gus should consider. And what about you, living comfortably
>with your family, able to hold a job, and yet YOU can;t give up the
>oxy's???
>
>You've hit a new low, ZW.
>
Yeah a new low about a Space Alien who looked like a dog & talked.
Grow a sense of humor as you're your own worst enemy. I you into
making yourself a fool in public as a hobby or profession?

Would someone please clue her into who Alf is? In case no one does go
here (unless your to lazy) http://www.tvshows.de/alf/e-main.htm to
find out.

Oh & btw ALF is also a programming language which combines functional
and logic programming techniques. And is the acronym for the Animal
Liberation Front & Association of Libertarian Feminists.

If you do a Google web search the term "Assisted Living facility"
doesn't even come up in the first half-dozen pages.

When oh when will you figure out that everything is not in fact about
you, or even has anything to do with you? Without a doubt you have to
be one of the most self-absorbed, self-centered, and egotistical
people I've ever met, real or imagined.

Do the kids in the neighborhood refer to you as the crazy old lady who
lives in her parents basement? That surely is how you come across.

>Sorry if this upsets you, Gus, but he's been jumping down my throat on
>every type of thread, no matter who or what it concerns. But remember
>who started it, and the fact that I've never wished you anything but
>the best. That's why I warned you to check out two things that are
>important to us, like it or not; the fact that you may be switching one
>living arrangement for another, and the importance of having the
>option of having the same level of pain relief (I believe you, ZW,
>brought up the term "drugs" on this thread; or are you joining the
>abusers, that are trying to call Gus an abuser)?
>
I want nothing to do with any part of your anatomy, to include your
throat. You're the lunatic who goes flying off the handle every time
anyone posts anything that your demented & deluded little mind thinks
has something to do with you.

I said that being in a place surrounded by loved ones who care about
you can be more important then worrying about your sources of supply.
Are you aware that you can find a new Dr when you move, but finding
new family & friends can be a bit rough. Are you aware Gus had to
give up his companion when he move into the "Facility". Perhaps at
the new place he got have him.

Matter of fact "some people" with a life actually find that their
pain levels are reduced when they are engaged in living said life to
the fullest. Sort of fades into the background as they are enjoying
socializing with their loved ones, something I suspect you know
nothing about. Now if your primary motivation for waddling out of bed
in the morning is to get your "pain relief", well that's you, but that
isn't everyone's primary motivation in life. I bet if you took a poll
most people here would rather be surrounded with friends & family then
pill bottles, potions & elixirs any day of the week.

Please grow a sense of humor & get some type of life. You're in dire
need of both.

>Sorry I had too rant on your thread, Gus. I wish youthe best.
>
Had too, or want to? Was someone standing there with a gun to your
little pumpkinhead making your write it? Or are you coming off your
anti-psychotics?

Oh & Gus, if you are bothering to read this dribble, remember that my
original counsel was to move to NC to be with your daughter & her
family. I bet they'll let you have a cup of coffee to go.

>-Legend
In your own mind only.[vbcol=seagreen]
>
>
>Zombywoof wrote:

--

Only way to beat terrorist is to use terrorist tactics...set traps, snipers.
No amount of conventional warfare will work...

Juba

2006-04-08, 1:12 pm

Grampa Gus <starob@att.net> wrote in message:
W8BZf.702527$qk4.127326@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net,

> Hi all
>
> Last night my daughter and I discussed my moving from CA to NC sooner
> rather than later. She told me that when she and her half-brother
> were passing a Senior's Community, he (15YO) said, "Why don't we put
> your father there so we could help him?" My daughter said that she
> was so moved by this she had to pull off the road and cry, and thank
> him. I do believe the chances are good that someday I'll make the
> move.

I sure hope so Gus.

--
Juba
www.masterjuba.com

Read the alt.support.chronic-pain Kook Faq
http://www.masterjuba.com/kook.htm

LooseCannon

2006-04-08, 6:12 pm

Legend wrote:

> Can;t you keep bugging me on a "support' thread?

Then if its such a big XXXXin deal, why dontcha be the bigger person and
let it drop. After all, IT WAS A JOKE, DIPSHIT!

Gus is one of the
> first people who reached out to me.
> ALF means Assisted Living facility

Duh! IT WAS A JOKE!

(if you'd bothered to read Gus'
> original post, you'd know that. But obviously your contempt for me has
> exceeded your wish to support Gus.

No, IT WAS A JOKE!

I was simply pointing out pros and
> cons that gus should consider. And what about you, living comfortably
> with your family, able to hold a job, and yet YOU can;t give up the
> oxy's???

If its a SUPPORT thread, why this?

>
> You've hit a new low, ZW.

And you havent? ROFL

>
> Sorry if this upsets you, Gus,

No, you arent. You look for any reason you can to spit yer venom.

but he's been jumping down my throat on
> every type of thread, no matter who or what it concerns.

No, ya idjit, IT WAS A JOKE!

But remember
> who started it,

Actually, anyone with a modicum of a sense of humor can figure out who
did what. The fact that youve got a stick up yer arse about ZW is obvious.

and the fact that I've never wished you anything but
> the best. That's why I warned you to check out two things that are
> important to us, like it or not; the fact that you may be switching one
> living arrangement for another, and the importance of having the
> option of having the same level of pain relief (I believe you, ZW,
> brought up the term "drugs" on this thread; or are you joining the
> abusers, that are trying to call Gus an abuser)?

Now THATS hitting a new low, Pamela.

>
> Sorry I had too rant on your thread, Gus.

No ya arent...cuz if ya meant that, you wouldnt have done it in the
first place!

> I wish youthe best.
>
> -Legend
>
>
> Zombywoof wrote:
>
>
>

Ronnie

2006-04-09, 1:13 am

Dear GG, it is one of my fondest wishes that someday
you will be posting here surrounded by your love ones.

Ronnie
--
*When one candle burns out..
Another is lit*

"Grampa Gus" <starob@att.net> wrote in message
news:W8BZf.702527$qk4.127326@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> Hi all
>
> Last night my daughter and I discussed my moving from CA to NC sooner
> rather than later. She told me that when she and her half-brother were
> passing a Senior's Community, he (15YO) said, "Why don't we put your
> father there so we could help him?" My daughter said that she was so moved
> by this she had to pull off the road and cry, and thank him. I do believe
> the chances are good that someday I'll make the move.
>
> For right now though, I've spent a year with new doctors (having just
> moved from near San Jose CA to S CA) that it took two or three months to
> find. And now that I've spent a year with my new pain doctor, not having
> asked for more pills even once. So last month when I went there & told her
> just how bad things were for me, she added a new anti-seizure med to my
> cocktail. It's made a moderate difference, enough that it does provide
> maybe 20% more relief than I was getting before. Part of it is my fault,
> I've wanted to believe I was going to get better living in an Assisted
> Living Facility (ALF) than has turned out to be the case.
>
> Sadly, regarding the difference between the ALF's brochure, and what
> really goes on here, are two very different thing. First there's the fight
> of resisting institutionalization and second is that this place is run
> like any other profit center. They are always looking for ways to cut
> expenses, we used to be able to get our coffee (travel) mugs filled after
> meals to take to the courtyard for visiting, reading, &etc. Now they won't
> do it anymore; staff continues seeking ways to cut costs. (Anyone whose
> ever worked in a factory or at the upper levels of a corporation, or other
> experiences, will know that the only thing that matters is the bottom
> line. Tragically, most people use the ALF as a kennel for their parents,
> only this time the "pets" learn that their owners aren't coming back. At
> least 80% of those here don't get any visitors. For those who do have
> family, when they call their relatives to complain about the place; staff
> lies to them about what's going on, ie grampa is getting up in years and
> is difficult to work with, and remember, that's why you put him here. Very
> few actually come to check, but for those who do they can effect change.
>
> I've four times now watched, otherwise healthy people (I know because they
> told me, and were visibly healthy with agile minds), come here, and die
> within three weeks. One was a priest who wanted to finish a book he'd been
> working on. That's how destructive institutionalization can be. One day
> someone is still at home in the middle of life, family, things to take up
> their time, and mainly being a part of something. Coming here is to be
> totally picked up from the game board of life and warehoused.
>
> Anyway, I guess I'm rambling having had another poor sleep last night. But
> I do want to say thanks to those who've helped and supported me all along.
> I don't know how I could manage without you.
>
> BTW, I dropped about 20 neurontin in the kitchen sink today, fortunately I
> could retrieve them. (My point being that it does happen sometimes.)
>
> Well, I have many ideas floating around my mind but can't seem to light on
> one. So I'll say hello, and best wishes to all.
>
> Grampa Gus
>

Grampa Gus

2006-04-09, 1:13 am

Hi

Yesterday was a particularly painful day preceded by a lousy sleep. As far
as moving to NC I suspect it will be years rather than months, or a decade.

I never imagined that my posting would get so many responses, thank you all.
I'm pretty worn down tonight, and my next plan is to drive to a
semi-isolated area of the parking lot for a California smoke, if you know
what I mean. It's so effective I just can't believe it's not more common. I
took my last pain killers at 4:30PM, when I go do my thing I won't need
another pain killer until tomorrow around 10:00am.

The following I've written to only to give some more context about what's
been going on with me. I wrote it as carefully as I could in order to give
offense to no one. So in the event that I do offend anyone, please contact
me. I write this only to tell what's been going on with me.

I've just dropped an on going effort to make a report to about an
organization that I feel wronged me. For 14 months they gave me the run
around, but mainly ignored me. It was interesting to recently read some of
their assumptions about me; when my whole issue to begin with was that I
couldn't get any attention until I took my report/request for mediation to
the national level. Well... I'll give a little more context, this
organization is the type that, at least as I understand their book, is all
about help, love, and serving others needs. As my severe (other) health
problems continued, and then two auto accidents paralyzed my legs (I was
literally in the VA hospital then when a group of 4 at the org got together
to discuss "how to help" me. They decided the problem is that I'm a drug
addict and therefore they had to stop "enabling me" because that's what I
needed. So the whole organization, either by email, or "word of mouth" was
informed of this.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think I had a right to be at that meeting, and that
if I was becoming a problem then they should have come and talked to me
about it -- first! However, after 14 months of attempting to get one person
from this organization to ask me what I have to say for myself I finally
realized what I needed to figure out. They aren't the type who ask such
questions.

I later learned that the real cause for my erratic behavior was severe
malnutrition (so bad I lost 2/3's of my teeth). When I told the org this it
had no affect on them.

So having let go I've found just how much my effort was costing me:
emotionally and, of course, physically and pain. That's the main reason, I
think, that yesterday was such a tough day -- emotions.

--
Grampa Gus

"Grampa Gus" <starob@att.net> wrote in message
news:W8BZf.702527$qk4.127326@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> Hi all
>
> Last night my daughter and I discussed my moving from CA to NC sooner
> rather than later. She told me that when she and her half-brother were
> passing a Senior's Community, he (15YO) said, "Why don't we put your
> father there so we could help him?" My daughter said that she was so moved
> by this she had to pull off the road and cry, and thank him. I do believe
> the chances are good that someday I'll make the move.
>
> For right now though, I've spent a year with new doctors (having just
> moved from near San Jose CA to S CA) that it took two or three months to
> find. And now that I've spent a year with my new pain doctor, not having
> asked for more pills even once. So last month when I went there & told her
> just how bad things were for me, she added a new anti-seizure med to my
> cocktail. It's made a moderate difference, enough that it does provide
> maybe 20% more relief than I was getting before. Part of it is my fault,
> I've wanted to believe I was going to get better living in an Assisted
> Living Facility (ALF) than has turned out to be the case.
>
> Sadly, regarding the difference between the ALF's brochure, and what
> really goes on here, are two very different thing. First there's the fight
> of resisting institutionalization and second is that this place is run
> like any other profit center. They are always looking for ways to cut
> expenses, we used to be able to get our coffee (travel) mugs filled after
> meals to take to the courtyard for visiting, reading, &etc. Now they won't
> do it anymore; staff continues seeking ways to cut costs. (Anyone whose
> ever worked in a factory or at the upper levels of a corporation, or other
> experiences, will know that the only thing that matters is the bottom
> line. Tragically, most people use the ALF as a kennel for their parents,
> only this time the "pets" learn that their owners aren't coming back. At
> least 80% of those here don't get any visitors. For those who do have
> family, when they call their relatives to complain about the place; staff
> lies to them about what's going on, ie grampa is getting up in years and
> is difficult to work with, and remember, that's why you put him here. Very
> few actually come to check, but for those who do they can effect change.
>
> I've four times now watched, otherwise healthy people (I know because they
> told me, and were visibly healthy with agile minds), come here, and die
> within three weeks. One was a priest who wanted to finish a book he'd been
> working on. That's how destructive institutionalization can be. One day
> someone is still at home in the middle of life, family, things to take up
> their time, and mainly being a part of something. Coming here is to be
> totally picked up from the game board of life and warehoused.
>
> Anyway, I guess I'm rambling having had another poor sleep last night. But
> I do want to say thanks to those who've helped and supported me all along.
> I don't know how I could manage without you.
>
> BTW, I dropped about 20 neurontin in the kitchen sink today, fortunately I
> could retrieve them. (My point being that it does happen sometimes.)
>
> Well, I have many ideas floating around my mind but can't seem to light on
> one. So I'll say hello, and best wishes to all.
>
> Grampa Gus
>

Juba

2006-04-09, 1:13 pm

Grampa Gus <starob@att.net> wrote in message:
tR_Zf.118$YT1.12@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net,

> Hi
>
> Yesterday was a particularly painful day preceded by a lousy sleep.
> As far as moving to NC I suspect it will be years rather than months,
> or a decade.

Sorry.

>
> I never imagined that my posting would get so many responses, thank
> you all.

You shouldn't be surprised. Most people who know you, like you and care
about what happens to you.

> I'm pretty worn down tonight, and my next plan is to drive
> to a semi-isolated area of the parking lot for a California smoke, if
> you know what I mean.

4:20 baby!

> It's so effective I just can't believe it's not
> more common. I took my last pain killers at 4:30PM, when I go do my
> thing I won't need another pain killer until tomorrow around 10:00am.
>
> The following I've written to only to give some more context about
> what's been going on with me. I wrote it as carefully as I could in
> order to give offense to no one. So in the event that I do offend
> anyone, please contact me. I write this only to tell what's been
> going on with me.
> I've just dropped an on going effort to make a report to about an
> organization that I feel wronged me.

Best to let it go. Save your energy for more productive endeavors.

Take care.
--
Juba
www.masterjuba.com

Read the alt.support.chronic-pain Kook Faq
http://www.masterjuba.com/kook.htm

Navy1

2006-04-10, 1:13 am

I agree that you should have been at the meeting. So often, though,
people seem to treat our generation and my mom's as children. My
prayers are for you. When you move to NC, wave across the border to
me in Columbia, South Carolina.

(((((((((((((((Granpa Gus))))))))))))))))))))

Loujean

On Sun, 09 Apr 2006 03:04:57 GMT, "Grampa Gus" <starob@att.net> wrote:

>Hi
>
>Yesterday was a particularly painful day preceded by a lousy sleep. As far
>as moving to NC I suspect it will be years rather than months, or a decade.
>
>I never imagined that my posting would get so many responses, thank you all.
>I'm pretty worn down tonight, and my next plan is to drive to a
>semi-isolated area of the parking lot for a California smoke, if you know
>what I mean. It's so effective I just can't believe it's not more common. I
>took my last pain killers at 4:30PM, when I go do my thing I won't need
>another pain killer until tomorrow around 10:00am.
>
>The following I've written to only to give some more context about what's
>been going on with me. I wrote it as carefully as I could in order to give
>offense to no one. So in the event that I do offend anyone, please contact
>me. I write this only to tell what's been going on with me.
>
>I've just dropped an on going effort to make a report to about an
>organization that I feel wronged me. For 14 months they gave me the run
>around, but mainly ignored me. It was interesting to recently read some of
>their assumptions about me; when my whole issue to begin with was that I
>couldn't get any attention until I took my report/request for mediation to
>the national level. Well... I'll give a little more context, this
>organization is the type that, at least as I understand their book, is all
>about help, love, and serving others needs. As my severe (other) health
>problems continued, and then two auto accidents paralyzed my legs (I was
>literally in the VA hospital then when a group of 4 at the org got together
>to discuss "how to help" me. They decided the problem is that I'm a drug
>addict and therefore they had to stop "enabling me" because that's what I
>needed. So the whole organization, either by email, or "word of mouth" was
>informed of this.
>
>Maybe I'm wrong, but I think I had a right to be at that meeting, and that
>if I was becoming a problem then they should have come and talked to me
>about it -- first! However, after 14 months of attempting to get one person
>from this organization to ask me what I have to say for myself I finally
>realized what I needed to figure out. They aren't the type who ask such
>questions.
>
>I later learned that the real cause for my erratic behavior was severe
>malnutrition (so bad I lost 2/3's of my teeth). When I told the org this it
>had no affect on them.
>
>So having let go I've found just how much my effort was costing me:
>emotionally and, of course, physically and pain. That's the main reason, I
>think, that yesterday was such a tough day -- emotions.

Zombywoof

2006-04-10, 1:13 am

On Fri, 7 Apr 2006 22:20:35 -0400, "Doug" <Nospamreat@real.net> wrote:

>
>"Grampa Gus" <starob@att.net> wrote in message
>news:W8BZf.702527$qk4.127326@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>
>
>I wish you all the best,no matter what path you may choose.
>
>It is nice to have family living closer .
>
Ain't it though? So much better then living with strangers who won't
even let you have a cup of coffee to go.

>I am sure you will make the right decision
>
As am I.
>
>All the best
>Doug
>

--

Only way to beat terrorist is to use terrorist tactics...set traps, snipers.
No amount of conventional warfare will work...

Zombywoof

2006-04-10, 1:13 am

On Sat, 8 Apr 2006 10:55:02 -0700, "Juba" <juba@XmasterjubaX.com>
wrote:

>Grampa Gus <starob@att.net> wrote in message:
>W8BZf.702527$qk4.127326@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net,
>
>
>I sure hope so Gus.
>
Me too. We often forget family is the one constant we can rely on in
life. All sorts of other things may come & go, but good, bad or
indifferent, family is always there.
--

Only way to beat terrorist is to use terrorist tactics...set traps, snipers.
No amount of conventional warfare will work...

Zombywoof

2006-04-10, 1:13 am

On Sun, 09 Apr 2006 03:04:57 GMT, "Grampa Gus" <starob@att.net> wrote:

>Hi
>
>Yesterday was a particularly painful day preceded by a lousy sleep. As far
>as moving to NC I suspect it will be years rather than months, or a decade.
>
I very seriously think you should up that time table. If there is
anything I can do on my end to be of assistance in doing so please
give a shout out. Purple still has the GusBusters Ambulance parked at
his place.

Hell there might even be a way to get the VA to pick up the tab to get
you back with your family members.

I honestly & truly think you'd have a better outlook on life being
with your loved ones.
>
>I've just dropped an on going effort to make a report to about an
>organization that I feel wronged me. For 14 months they gave me the run
>around, but mainly ignored me. It was interesting to recently read some of
>their assumptions about me; when my whole issue to begin with was that I
>couldn't get any attention until I took my report/request for mediation to
>the national level. Well... I'll give a little more context, this
>organization is the type that, at least as I understand their book, is all
>about help, love, and serving others needs. As my severe (other) health
>problems continued, and then two auto accidents paralyzed my legs (I was
>literally in the VA hospital then when a group of 4 at the org got together
>to discuss "how to help" me. They decided the problem is that I'm a drug
>addict and therefore they had to stop "enabling me" because that's what I
>needed. So the whole organization, either by email, or "word of mouth" was
>informed of this.
>
I sincerely don't understand why you put so much effort into a group
of people who obviously didn't care about you on anything other but
their terms. Who needs people that decided how your relationship with
them is going to be? Especially since this particular group of people
are not supposed to be judgmental, but unconditional in their love.

>Maybe I'm wrong, but I think I had a right to be at that meeting, and that
>if I was becoming a problem then they should have come and talked to me
>about it -- first! However, after 14 months of attempting to get one person
>from this organization to ask me what I have to say for myself I finally
>realized what I needed to figure out. They aren't the type who ask such
>questions.
>
Do you honestly think that any group that get's together to plan an
intervention invites the intended victim of said intervention, or show
I say inquisition?

They don't care what you have to say for yourself, they've already
figured that out for you. You're just supposed to follow them blindly
without asking questions or thinking independently. The brainwashing
doesn't work all that well if you continue to think for yourself you
know.

>I later learned that the real cause for my erratic behavior was severe
>malnutrition (so bad I lost 2/3's of my teeth). When I told the org this it
>had no affect on them.
>
I suspect that was only a part of it Gus. You were in a bad way on a
whole bunch of different levels. You were grabbing at the last
lifesaving device many in your position grab for, religion. When you
didn't succumb to the brainwashing, they had nothing left to do but
force it down your throat. Your lucky you got away from them when you
did.

>So having let go I've found just how much my effort was costing me:
>emotionally and, of course, physically and pain. That's the main reason, I
>think, that yesterday was such a tough day -- emotions.
>
We all need to let go of all sorts of things. Unfortunately many of
us wear this little backpack for carrying around life's bullshit. We
all need to learn how to take it off & empty it out once in a while.

You should've seen some of the Disabled Veterans demonstrating out in
front of the VA Hq in DC this weekend. While they may have valid
points, they have let those points become the sole controlling aspects
of their lives. Some really need to find another hobby that is more
productive & calming then picketing the VA Hq.
--

Only way to beat terrorist is to use terrorist tactics...set traps, snipers.
No amount of conventional warfare will work...

Zombywoof

2006-04-10, 1:13 am

On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 00:48:15 GMT, Navy1 <medical23FISHkidoo@sc.rr.com>
wrote:

>I agree that you should have been at the meeting. So often, though,
>people seem to treat our generation and my mom's as children. My
>prayers are for you. When you move to NC, wave across the border to
>me in Columbia, South Carolina.
>
If I understand what Gus has written on this topic on several
occasions, these people were planning an intervention. They believed
his "Pain Medications" were the cause, not a symptom.

It is not common to invite the intended victim to the planning
session. Otherwise how could they talk about him behind his back.
They weren't open to dissenting comments. It was their way or the
highway. He is lucky he got out before they were able to bring in
their "Chief" brain-washer.

What is surprising (to me at least) is that they were part of a pretty
"mainstream" religion as opposed to a "cult" Although an awful lot
of "mainstream" religions are a very small baby step away from "cult"
status (IMHO). Again this is if my understanding is correct. I could
be way off-base, but I don't think so.
--

Only way to beat terrorist is to use terrorist tactics...set traps, snipers.
No amount of conventional warfare will work...

Grampa Gus

2006-04-10, 1:13 am

"Zombywoof" <Zomby-Woof@cox.net> wrote in message

> Again this is if my understanding is correct. I could
> be way off-base, but I don't think so.
> --
>
I don't think so either.

Today at the ALF we celebrated the Easter Bunny, eggs, children were here to
sing. While sitting out back in the courtyard reading, one of the staff
walked by with E. Bunny, who was about 5'8" tall, and staff asked if I would
like a picuture (no charge, at least not yet.) with me and E. Bunny. I
immediately thought and said, No thanks." But as they walked away I
remembered that I have Grandsons, so the picture was taken. At the moment
the wether is good. That and today I actually felt a little on the happy
side. It still hurts, but it always hurts, however I can't remember feeling
happy since last November. Even if it's just for today, that's still pretty
good.

GG

Legend

2006-04-10, 11:11 am

Glad you had a pretty good day. Your grandsons will get a kick out of
the picture, I bet. sometimes all we have are moments. hang in there,

-Legend
Grampa Gus wrote:

>
> Today at the ALF we celebrated the Easter Bunny, eggs, children were here to
> sing. While sitting out back in the courtyard reading, one of the staff
> walked by with E. Bunny, who was about 5'8" tall, and staff asked if I would
> like a picuture (no charge, at least not yet.) with me and E. Bunny. I
> immediately thought and said, No thanks." But as they walked away I
> remembered that I have Grandsons, so the picture was taken. At the moment
> the wether is good. That and today I actually felt a little on the happy
> side. It still hurts, but it always hurts, however I can't remember feeling
> happy since last November. Even if it's just for today, that's still pretty
> good.
>
> GG

Legend

2006-04-10, 11:11 am

Ronnie

2006-04-10, 11:11 am

GG, this is the kind of picture that the grandsons
will always remember. You know that old saying
*all good things come to those who wait*? As far
as your moving days you just have to wait alittle longer..

--
Ronnie
--
*When one candle burns out..
Another is lit*
"Grampa Gus" <starob@att.net> wrote in message
news:MBm_f.3703$YT1.990@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
>
> "Zombywoof" <Zomby-Woof@cox.net> wrote in message
>
> I don't think so either.
>
> Today at the ALF we celebrated the Easter Bunny, eggs, children were here
> to sing. While sitting out back in the courtyard reading, one of the staff
> walked by with E. Bunny, who was about 5'8" tall, and staff asked if I
> would like a picuture (no charge, at least not yet.) with me and E. Bunny.
> I immediately thought and said, No thanks." But as they walked away I
> remembered that I have Grandsons, so the picture was taken. At the moment
> the wether is good. That and today I actually felt a little on the happy
> side. It still hurts, but it always hurts, however I can't remember
> feeling happy since last November. Even if it's just for today, that's
> still pretty good.
>
> GG
>

Zombywoof

2006-04-10, 11:11 am

On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 06:06:36 GMT, "Grampa Gus" <starob@att.net> wrote:

>
>"Zombywoof" <Zomby-Woof@cox.net> wrote in message
>
> I don't think so either.
>
>Today at the ALF we celebrated the Easter Bunny, eggs, children were here to
>sing. While sitting out back in the courtyard reading, one of the staff
>walked by with E. Bunny, who was about 5'8" tall, and staff asked if I would
>like a picuture (no charge, at least not yet.) with me and E. Bunny. I
>immediately thought and said, No thanks." But as they walked away I
>remembered that I have Grandsons, so the picture was taken. At the moment
>the wether is good. That and today I actually felt a little on the happy
>side. It still hurts, but it always hurts, however I can't remember feeling
>happy since last November. Even if it's just for today, that's still pretty
>good.
>
>GG
>
So let me ask you a question Gus. If that made ya feel good; how
would watching your grandsons run around finding their Easter Eggs
make ya feel? You need to be with your family dude. It will give you
a reason to live as opposed to surviving.

BTW -- Any chance said bunny's name was Harvey?
--

Only way to beat terrorist is to use terrorist tactics...set traps, snipers.
No amount of conventional warfare will work...

Codeee01@hotmail.com

2006-04-11, 1:08 am

On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 01:45:09 -0400, Zombywoof <Zomby-Woof@cox.net>
wrote:

>On 7 Apr 2006 20:33:50 -0700, "Legend" <the_warrior@surfy.net> wrote:

<snip>

>
>I said that being in a place surrounded by loved ones who care about
>you can be more important then worrying about your sources of supply.
>Are you aware that you can find a new Dr when you move, but finding
>new family & friends can be a bit rough. Are you aware Gus had to
>give up his companion when he move into the "Facility". Perhaps at
>the new place he got have him.

I believe we all wish Grampa Gus the very best, which includes
having his loved ones close by as well as good medical care.
I repeat...good medical care. You are the one interpreting it
as a "source of supply".

>
> Matter of fact "some people" with a life actually find that their
>pain levels are reduced when they are engaged in living said life to
>the fullest. Sort of fades into the background as they are enjoying
>socializing with their loved ones, something I suspect you know
>nothing about. Now if your primary motivation for waddling out of bed
>in the morning is to get your "pain relief", well that's you, but that
>isn't everyone's primary motivation in life. I bet if you took a poll
>most people here would rather be surrounded with friends & family then
>pill bottles, potions & elixirs any day of the week.

Perhaps you should grow a sense of compassion. Hopefully G.G. will
soon be in better surroundings. Having said that, YOU are with
family,
and STILL need your pain meds...so what does that say about YOUR
"primary motivation to waddle out of bed in the morning".

Casting aspersions is likely to bring them right back to your side of
the dock.

[vbcol=seagreen]
>
>Please grow a sense of humor & get some type of life. You're in dire
>need of both.
>
>Had too, or want to? Was someone standing there with a gun to your
>little pumpkinhead making your write it? Or are you coming off your
>anti-psychotics?
>
>Oh & Gus, if you are bothering to read this dribble, remember that my
>original counsel was to move to NC to be with your daughter & her
>family. I bet they'll let you have a cup of coffee to go.
>
>In your own mind only.

OneTiredGrandma

2006-04-11, 1:08 am

((((((((((Grampa Gus))))))))))

Your grandson is a very wise 15 year old! My best wishes to you and
for you GG!

Grampa Gus wrote:
> Hi all
>
> Last night my daughter and I discussed my moving from CA to NC sooner rather
> than later. She told me that when she and her half-brother were passing a
> Senior's Community, he (15YO) said, "Why don't we put your father there so
> we could help him?" My daughter said that she was so moved by this she had
> to pull off the road and cry, and thank him. I do believe the chances are
> good that someday I'll make the move.
>
> For right now though, I've spent a year with new doctors (having just moved
> from near San Jose CA to S CA) that it took two or three months to find. And
> now that I've spent a year with my new pain doctor, not having asked for
> more pills even once. So last month when I went there & told her just how
> bad things were for me, she added a new anti-seizure med to my cocktail.
> It's made a moderate difference, enough that it does provide maybe 20% more
> relief than I was getting before. Part of it is my fault, I've wanted to
> believe I was going to get better living in an Assisted Living Facility
> (ALF) than has turned out to be the case.
>
> Sadly, regarding the difference between the ALF's brochure, and what really
> goes on here, are two very different thing. First there's the fight of
> resisting institutionalization and second is that this place is run like any
> other profit center. They are always looking for ways to cut expenses, we
> used to be able to get our coffee (travel) mugs filled after meals to take
> to the courtyard for visiting, reading, &etc. Now they won't do it anymore;
> staff continues seeking ways to cut costs. (Anyone whose ever worked in a
> factory or at the upper levels of a corporation, or other experiences, will
> know that the only thing that matters is the bottom line. Tragically, most
> people use the ALF as a kennel for their parents, only this time the "pets"
> learn that their owners aren't coming back. At least 80% of those here don't
> get any visitors. For those who do have family, when they call their
> relatives to complain about the place; staff lies to them about what's going
> on, ie grampa is getting up in years and is difficult to work with, and
> remember, that's why you put him here. Very few actually come to check, but
> for those who do they can effect change.
>
> I've four times now watched, otherwise healthy people (I know because they
> told me, and were visibly healthy with agile minds), come here, and die
> within three weeks. One was a priest who wanted to finish a book he'd been
> working on. That's how destructive institutionalization can be. One day
> someone is still at home in the middle of life, family, things to take up
> their time, and mainly being a part of something. Coming here is to be
> totally picked up from the game board of life and warehoused.
>
> Anyway, I guess I'm rambling having had another poor sleep last night. But I
> do want to say thanks to those who've helped and supported me all along. I
> don't know how I could manage without you.
>
> BTW, I dropped about 20 neurontin in the kitchen sink today, fortunately I
> could retrieve them. (My point being that it does happen sometimes.)
>
> Well, I have many ideas floating around my mind but can't seem to light on
> one. So I'll say hello, and best wishes to all.
>
> Grampa Gus

OneTiredGrandma

2006-04-11, 1:08 am

ALF.....Alien Life Form. A sit-com from (I think) the 80's. I loved
to watch ALF, it was my escape from reality back then! Loved that
furry little ALF!!! He loved to eat cats and he was always getting
into some kind of trouble. LOL

Zombywoof wrote:
> On 7 Apr 2006 20:33:50 -0700, "Legend" <the_warrior@surfy.net> wrote:
>
> Yeah a new low about a Space Alien who looked like a dog & talked.
> Grow a sense of humor as you're your own worst enemy. I you into
> making yourself a fool in public as a hobby or profession?
>
> Would someone please clue her into who Alf is? In case no one does go
> here (unless your to lazy) http://www.tvshows.de/alf/e-main.htm to
> find out.
>
> Oh & btw ALF is also a programming language which combines functional
> and logic programming techniques. And is the acronym for the Animal
> Liberation Front & Association of Libertarian Feminists.
>
> If you do a Google web search the term "Assisted Living facility"
> doesn't even come up in the first half-dozen pages.
>
> When oh when will you figure out that everything is not in fact about
> you, or even has anything to do with you? Without a doubt you have to
> be one of the most self-absorbed, self-centered, and egotistical
> people I've ever met, real or imagined.
>
> Do the kids in the neighborhood refer to you as the crazy old lady who
> lives in her parents basement? That surely is how you come across.
>
> I want nothing to do with any part of your anatomy, to include your
> throat. You're the lunatic who goes flying off the handle every time
> anyone posts anything that your demented & deluded little mind thinks
> has something to do with you.
>
> I said that being in a place surrounded by loved ones who care about
> you can be more important then worrying about your sources of supply.
> Are you aware that you can find a new Dr when you move, but finding
> new family & friends can be a bit rough. Are you aware Gus had to
> give up his companion when he move into the "Facility". Perhaps at
> the new place he got have him.
>
> Matter of fact "some people" with a life actually find that their
> pain levels are reduced when they are engaged in living said life to
> the fullest. Sort of fades into the background as they are enjoying
> socializing with their loved ones, something I suspect you know
> nothing about. Now if your primary motivation for waddling out of bed
> in the morning is to get your "pain relief", well that's you, but that
> isn't everyone's primary motivation in life. I bet if you took a poll
> most people here would rather be surrounded with friends & family then
> pill bottles, potions & elixirs any day of the week.
>
> Please grow a sense of humor & get some type of life. You're in dire
> need of both.
>
> Had too, or want to? Was someone standing there with a gun to your
> little pumpkinhead making your write it? Or are you coming off your
> anti-psychotics?
>
> Oh & Gus, if you are bothering to read this dribble, remember that my
> original counsel was to move to NC to be with your daughter & her
> family. I bet they'll let you have a cup of coffee to go.
>
> In your own mind only.
>
> --
>
> Only way to beat terrorist is to use terrorist tactics...set traps, snipers.
> No amount of conventional warfare will work...

OneTiredGrandma

2006-04-11, 1:08 am

Bet he wishes said Bunny's first name was Playboy!

Zombywoof wrote:
> On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 06:06:36 GMT, "Grampa Gus" <starob@att.net> wrote:
>
> So let me ask you a question Gus. If that made ya feel good; how
> would watching your grandsons run around finding their Easter Eggs
> make ya feel? You need to be with your family dude. It will give you
> a reason to live as opposed to surviving.
>
> BTW -- Any chance said bunny's name was Harvey?
> --
>
> Only way to beat terrorist is to use terrorist tactics...set traps, snipers.
> No amount of conventional warfare will work...

Zombywoof

2006-04-11, 11:12 am

On 10 Apr 2006 20:44:17 -0700, "OneTiredGrandma"
<OneTiredGrandma@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>ALF.....Alien Life Form. A sit-com from (I think) the 80's. I loved
>to watch ALF, it was my escape from reality back then! Loved that
>furry little ALF!!! He loved to eat cats and he was always getting
>into some kind of trouble. LOL
>
Oh yeah that's right I forgot his favorite dish de jour was Cat. It
was a pretty funny show. I still see the character used in certain
marketing segments.
--

Only way to beat terrorist is to use terrorist tactics...set traps, snipers.
No amount of conventional warfare will work...

Zombywoof

2006-04-11, 11:12 am

On 10 Apr 2006 20:56:01 -0700, "OneTiredGrandma"
<OneTiredGrandma@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>Bet he wishes said Bunny's first name was Playboy!

>
Me suspects that your right.

--

Only way to beat terrorist is to use terrorist tactics...set traps, snipers.
No amount of conventional warfare will work...

Zombywoof

2006-04-11, 11:12 am

On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 20:08:15 -0700, Codeee01@hotmail.com wrote:

>On Sat, 08 Apr 2006 01:45:09 -0400, Zombywoof <Zomby-Woof@cox.net>
>wrote:
>
>
>
>
><snip>
>
>
>
>
>I believe we all wish Grampa Gus the very best, which includes
>having his loved ones close by as well as good medical care.
>I repeat...good medical care. You are the one interpreting it
>as a "source of supply".
>
No that is how a certain person characterized it. I am quite sure the
good viable medical care can be obtained in North Carolina every bit
as well as in California.
>
>Perhaps you should grow a sense of compassion. Hopefully G.G. will
>soon be in better surroundings. Having said that, YOU are with
>family, and STILL need your pain meds...so what does that say about YOUR
>"primary motivation to waddle out of bed in the morning".
>
I know you haven't been around for a while and have kept out of the
fray. I thought that was a sign of increased wisdom on your part. I
see now that I was wrong.

You are more then aware of what my motivation for getting up & out is
daily. It is the fact that I have a family dependant on me. I happen
to take that responsibility seriously.

>Casting aspersions is likely to bring them right back to your side of
>the dock.
>
I neither defamed or slandered anyone. Hoping that a certain person
would ever be on my side of the dock for any reason other then pushing
me off of it is a mighty big assumption.
--

Only way to beat terrorist is to use terrorist tactics...set traps, snipers.
No amount of conventional warfare will work...