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MS-Contin vs Kadian
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| Hi, For my back I was taking 200 MG of MS-Contin daily plus six 7.5mg
of Percocet daily, this was not working. Now as an improvement? I was
switched to 260 mg. of Kadian per day. I was told I would no longer
need the Percocet for rebound pain. Am I getting the runaround here or
will this really work. The Dr. did indicate she would increase the dose
of Kadian if necessary. I have been on narcotics since 2001. Thanks so
much for any help I can get.
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| OldGoat 2005-09-23, 7:28 pm |
| Dear Bobby,
Forget the numbers, forget the names, that's all bullshit, anyway. How does
it feel? Is the extra contin helping enough?. The idea kind of works this
way: get you on a stable dose of long acting pain med. Lets say 250mg is
your spot. A couple months doing ok at 250mg, but stll having a shit day
here and there. Now comes the BT meds for when its a real XXXXX.
Two words of advice-- nothing absolutely nothing will take all the pain
away. It can make it a annoyance at worst, though.
and beware your intake of percs and vics there is mucho tylenol in those
puppies enough to smoke your liver and kidneys, or get your stomach bleeding
any of which could kill ya. They say 4000mg max tylenol and 1600mg on advil.
These are in lots of crap (allergy stuff, headache stuff, you name it)
Be careful--og
"Bobby" <rreger@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:1126622981.073153.40280@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Hi, For my back I was taking 200 MG of MS-Contin daily plus six 7.5mg
> of Percocet daily, this was not working. Now as an improvement? I was
> switched to 260 mg. of Kadian per day. I was told I would no longer
> need the Percocet for rebound pain. Am I getting the runaround here or
> will this really work. The Dr. did indicate she would increase the dose
> of Kadian if necessary. I have been on narcotics since 2001. Thanks so
> much for any help I can get.
>
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| healthyhabit@aol.com 2005-09-23, 7:28 pm |
| I was under the impression that rebound pain was pain that like with
appendisitises and the Dr. puts pressure on the lower left abdomen and
nothing happens till he takes the pressure off.Then go thru cealing.
Are you sure you don't mean breakthru pain? like 9-10 on the 1-10 scale.
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| LooseCannon 2005-09-23, 7:28 pm |
| Bobby wrote:
> Hi, For my back I was taking 200 MG of MS-Contin daily plus six 7.5mg
> of Percocet daily, this was not working. Now as an improvement? I was
> switched to 260 mg. of Kadian per day. I was told I would no longer
> need the Percocet for rebound pain. Am I getting the runaround here or
> will this really work. The Dr. did indicate she would increase the dose
> of Kadian if necessary. I have been on narcotics since 2001. Thanks so
> much for any help I can get.
>
I am so freakin sick of hearing these kinds of lies that doctors tell
their pain patients. Its as if they think that if they say it, we'll
believe it and our bodies will believe it, and reality will never kick
in. All this doc has done is increase your dose 60mg/day. There can be
a big difference between immed. release meds and long acting meds , but
MSContin IS a long acting med, and the differnce between 12 dosing and
24 hour dosing isnt all THAT much, esp. considering that many ppl dont
really get 12 hours out of the MSContin or 24 out of the Kadian.
Long acting meds like Kadian and MSContin, or even Duragesic or
Oxycontin are for the all day annoying pain that never really seems to
go away. The breakthru meds are for just that--pain that breaks thru
the base medication! No matter what long acting med your on or what
dose your on, your always gonna have breakthru pain and therefore need
breakthru meds. Any doc who really knows anything about pain management
would know that.
So on the off chance I havent made my point here yet, the answer is yes,
you ARE getting the runaround. Hell, what you were getting wasnt even
controlling your pain well, so how this doc thinks that the changes she
made would have that kind of an impact doesnt even make sense. Any doc
who thinks that 24 hr dosing is magical compared to 12 hr dosing, and
who thinks that by increasing your base medication dose by less than 30%
AND taking away your breakthru meds is gonna eliminate the worst of your
pain needs his head examined!!!
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| QUEEN MARYS TEARS 2005-09-23, 7:29 pm |
| WHERE THE HELL CAN I FIND SUCH A COMPASSIONATE DOC. MY DOC OF 15 YRS
WAS JUST HARRASSED OUTTA OF A MED LICENSE WITH LIES AND EVIDENCE
PLANTING. WHY THE HELL ARE GOV AGENTS INTERFERING IN PTS LIFES
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| ZombyWoof 2005-09-23, 7:29 pm |
| On 20 Sep 2005 18:30:15 -0700, "QUEEN MARYS TEARS"
<PaulHAlexander@gmail.com> wrote:
>WHERE THE HELL CAN I FIND SUCH A COMPASSIONATE DOC. MY DOC OF 15 YRS
>WAS JUST HARRASSED OUTTA OF A MED LICENSE WITH LIES AND EVIDENCE
>PLANTING. WHY THE HELL ARE GOV AGENTS INTERFERING IN PTS LIFES
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Because of people like Trypt who use medicine to catch a buzz. After
they pull the wool over the compassionate Dr's eyes enough times
either the DEA steps in or the Doc gets disillusioned and drops out of
the field. Or sometimes even runs scared as far as he/she can from
Chronic Pain Patients. A Pain Management Dr who used to post here
regularly has changed his pain management practice into an
"Anti-Aging" practice.
--
Zombywoof
Si vis Pacem, Para bellum
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| LooseCannon 2005-09-23, 7:29 pm |
| ZombyWoof wrote:
> On 20 Sep 2005 18:30:15 -0700, "QUEEN MARYS TEARS"
> <PaulHAlexander@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Because of people like Trypt who use medicine to catch a buzz. After
> they pull the wool over the compassionate Dr's eyes enough times
> either the DEA steps in or the Doc gets disillusioned and drops out of
> the field. Or sometimes even runs scared as far as he/she can from
> Chronic Pain Patients. A Pain Management Dr who used to post here
> regularly has changed his pain management practice into an
> "Anti-Aging" practice.
And dermatology too...imagine, swapping pain management for popping zits???
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| ZombyWoof 2005-09-23, 7:29 pm |
| On Wed, 21 Sep 2005 00:47:10 -0700, LooseCannon
<lambchop.LC@gmail.com> wrote:
>ZombyWoof wrote:
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>And dermatology too...imagine, swapping pain management for popping zits???
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Well other then the high yuck factor what is the liability downside to
popping zits? A prison term?
--
Zombywoof
Si vis Pacem, Para bellum
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