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Author FBN #2000007758
user

2005-06-29, 8:51 am

FBN #2000007758 Details
Certified Non-Certified
Primary Business Name IKACHINA
Number of Businesses 001
Business Name IKACHINA
Number of Owners 002
Owner PADGETT JOANN
Owner PADGETT KENNETH W
Filing Date (CCyy/MM/DD) 20000313
Expiration Date(CCyy/MM/DD) 20050313
Business Conducted By Husband & Wife

FBN #1993011140 Details
Certified Non-Certified
Primary Business Name KACHINA PRESS
Number of Businesses 001
Business Name KACHINA PRESS
Number of Owners 002
Owner PADGETT JO ANN
Owner PADGETT KENNETH W
Filing Date (CCyy/MM/DD) 19930616
Expiration Date(CCyy/MM/DD) 19980616
Business Conducted By Other

Paul T. Holland

2005-06-29, 5:50 pm

cross post to other group deleted -

this should not involve the spouse - ken removed her from the table by
removing links to her, and that should be good enough

even if you really, really, want him to answer for whatever you have a
beef with him about - this is not the way to accomplish it.

i am sure that theirs is as good family as any one else's - and family
should not be considered a tactic.

paul

user wrote:

> FBN #2000007758 Details
> Certified Non-Certified
> Primary Business Name IKACHINA
> Number of Businesses 001
> Business Name IKACHINA
> Number of Owners 002
> Owner PADGETT JOANN
> Owner PADGETT KENNETH W
> Filing Date (CCyy/MM/DD) 20000313
> Expiration Date(CCyy/MM/DD) 20050313
> Business Conducted By Husband & Wife
>
> FBN #1993011140 Details
> Certified Non-Certified
> Primary Business Name KACHINA PRESS
> Number of Businesses 001
> Business Name KACHINA PRESS
> Number of Owners 002
> Owner PADGETT JO ANN
> Owner PADGETT KENNETH W
> Filing Date (CCyy/MM/DD) 19930616
> Expiration Date(CCyy/MM/DD) 19980616
> Business Conducted By Other


Juba

2005-06-29, 5:50 pm

"Paul T. Holland" <pholland@bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
news:42C2DD2B.B4A03093@bellatlantic.net
> cross post to other group deleted -
>
> this should not involve the spouse - ken removed her from the table by
> removing links to her, and that should be good enough
>
> even if you really, really, want him to answer for whatever you have a
> beef with him about - this is not the way to accomplish it.
>
> i am sure that theirs is as good family as any one else's - and family
> should not be considered a tactic.


He said as he reposted the attack in it's entirety...

--
Juba
www.masterjuba.com


Paul T. Holland

2005-06-29, 5:50 pm

you are correct and i was in error for forgetting.

Juba wrote:

> "Paul T. Holland" <pholland@bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
> news:42C2DD2B.B4A03093@bellatlantic.net
>
> He said as he reposted the attack in it's entirety...
>
> --
> Juba
> www.masterjuba.com


Juba

2005-06-29, 5:50 pm

"Paul T. Holland" <pholland@bellatlantic.net> wrote in message
news:42C2F857.7B16E6DF@bellatlantic.net[vbcol=seagreen]
> you are correct and i was in error for forgetting.
>
> Juba wrote:
>

Thank you for acknowledging one your errors. That's a start.

Now that you've made some real effort at preventing further attacks, it
is not necessary for you or anyone else to respond to any more of these
attacks in any way.

While I appreciate your effort to discourage this sort of thing, I would
have appreciated it a lot more if you hadn't used my given name. Since
the only reason anyone would do that was to annoy me, I will assume from
now on that anyone who does so is demonstrating that they don't have any
respect for my privacy and treat them accordingly.

And I don't appreciate seeing my wife and child's name continuing to be
used in subject lines when responding in those threads. I'm again asking
everyone to please be a little more careful and "X" it out or something.

--
Juba
www.masterjuba.com


2005-06-29, 5:50 pm


"user" <12664@asia.com> wrote in message
news:1120037148.104634.51370@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
> FBN #2000007758 Details
> Certified Non-Certified
> Primary Business Name IKACHINA
> Number of Businesses 001
> Business Name IKACHINA
> Number of Owners 002
> Owner PADGETT JOANN
> Owner PADGETT KENNETH W
> Filing Date (CCyy/MM/DD) 20000313
> Expiration Date(CCyy/MM/DD) 20050313
> Business Conducted By Husband & Wife
>
> FBN #1993011140 Details
> Certified Non-Certified
> Primary Business Name KACHINA PRESS
> Number of Businesses 001
> Business Name KACHINA PRESS
> Number of Owners 002
> Owner PADGETT JO ANN
> Owner PADGETT KENNETH W
> Filing Date (CCyy/MM/DD) 19930616
> Expiration Date(CCyy/MM/DD) 19980616
> Business Conducted By Other



ya know...enuf is enuf

having also been...twice...the victim of the shock of seeing my nursing
license/np number appear on the screen....my birthday and given name...and
gotten a letter from an NP organization telling me that a "kook" had written
asking about my credentials...

not to mention losing a few "friendships" along the way...

life is full of people we don't like...or have problems with..

far be it for me...hot blooded Italian that I am...to lecture anyone else on
temper control...

but.......

enuf said....

life is too short for all of this...



Gigglz

2005-06-29, 5:50 pm

On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 20:20:56 GMT, <Hawki63@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>
>"user" <12664@asia.com> wrote in message
>news:1120037148.104634.51370@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>ya know...enuf is enuf
>
>having also been...twice...the victim of the shock of seeing my nursing
>license/np number appear on the screen....my birthday and given name...and
>gotten a letter from an NP organization telling me that a "kook" had written
>asking about my credentials...
>
>not to mention losing a few "friendships" along the way...
>
>life is full of people we don't like...or have problems with..
>
>far be it for me...hot blooded Italian that I am...to lecture anyone else on
>temper control...
>
>but.......
>
>enuf said....
>
>life is too short for all of this...
>
>



Well said, Hawki. I'm terribly sorry for the b.s. you've been
through. What a nightmare, and how totally unfair :-(

Hugs,
Nada

Ruada

2005-06-30, 8:49 am

The stuff I was blamed for? Oh how quickly everyone forgets just how much
pain was inflicted with no knowledge or proof.

Hawki63@sbcglobal.net wrote:

> "user" <12664@asia.com> wrote in message
> news:1120037148.104634.51370@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
>

<snip>
[vbcol=seagreen]
> ya know...enuf is enuf
>
> having also been...twice...the victim of the shock of seeing my nursing
> license/np number appear on the screen....my birthday and given name...and
> gotten a letter from an NP organization telling me that a "kook" had written
> asking about my credentials...
>
> not to mention losing a few "friendships" along the way...
>
> life is full of people we don't like...or have problems with..
>
> far be it for me...hot blooded Italian that I am...to lecture anyone else on
> temper control...
>
> but.......
>
> enuf said....
>
> life is too short for all of this...
>
>
>

2005-06-30, 5:49 pm


"Ruada" <noone@neverever.ord> wrote in message
news:da0o1h$7f6$1@pizzaboi.databasix.com...[vbcol=seagreen]
> The stuff I was blamed for? Oh how quickly everyone forgets just how much
> pain was inflicted with no knowledge or proof.
>
> Hawki63@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>
>
> <snip>
>


I don't recall "blaming" anyone specifically for the above Ruada....



Gigglz

2005-06-30, 5:49 pm

I didn't see her blame you. I think you are mistaken.

Hugs,
Nada



On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 04:27:34 -0800, Ruada <noone@neverever.ord> wrote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
>The stuff I was blamed for? Oh how quickly everyone forgets just how much
>pain was inflicted with no knowledge or proof.
>
>Hawki63@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>
>
><snip>
>

Ruada

2005-07-03, 12:11 pm

You didn't but the tricycle did.


Hawki63@sbcglobal.net wrote:

> "Ruada" <noone@neverever.ord> wrote in message
> news:da0o1h$7f6$1@pizzaboi.databasix.com...
>
>
>
>
> I don't recall "blaming" anyone specifically for the above Ruada....
>
>
>

2005-07-03, 12:11 pm


"Ruada" <noone@neverever.ord> wrote in message
news:da2417$5pj$1@ljutefisk.databasix.com...
> You didn't but the tricycle did.
>




sorry...don't get the inference....

[vbcol=seagreen]
> Hawki63@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>

Ruada

2005-07-03, 12:12 pm

RJ, MJ, C

Hawki63@sbcglobal.net wrote:

> "Ruada" <noone@neverever.ord> wrote in message
> news:da2417$5pj$1@ljutefisk.databasix.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> sorry...don't get the inference....
>
>
>
>
>

Ruada

2005-07-03, 12:12 pm

I did not say she did it -- I just said I was blamed. Are you all really so
dense I have to go back and find the posts themselves?

You all know I was blamed for posting C's stuff and for Hawki's nursing
stuff. It really has not been so long ago.



Gigglz wrote:

> I didn't see her blame you. I think you are mistaken.
>
> Hugs,
> Nada
>
>
>
> On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 04:27:34 -0800, Ruada <noone@neverever.ord> wrote:
>
>
>
>

2005-07-03, 12:12 pm


"Ruada" <noone@neverever.ord> wrote in message
news:da2itf$j2s$1@bwahahahaha.databasix.com...
> RJ, MJ, C
>


ah...tri as in three...sorry ...addled brain due to broken foot!!


[vbcol=seagreen]
> Hawki63@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>

ZombyWoof

2005-07-03, 12:12 pm

On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 07:39:49 GMT, <Hawki63@sbcglobal.net> wrote
something wonderfully witty:

>
>"Ruada" <noone@neverever.ord> wrote in message
>news:da2itf$j2s$1@bwahahahaha.databasix.com...
>
>ah...tri as in three...sorry ...addled brain due to broken foot!!
>

Your brain is in your foot? Puts a whole new meaning into stink foot.[vbcol=seagreen]
>
>

--
"patients who undertake opioid maintenance therapy
should behave in a way that is beyond reproach or
suspicion in all matters relating to their use of
medications. Patients who are unwilling or unable
to do so jeopardize not only their own health and
safety, but the health and safety of other patients
with chronic pain." -- Dr. Hurwitz
ZombyWoof

2005-07-03, 12:12 pm

On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 21:16:01 -0800, Ruada <noone@neverever.ord> wrote
something wonderfully witty:

>I did not say she did it -- I just said I was blamed. Are you all really so
>dense I have to go back and find the posts themselves?
>
>You all know I was blamed for posting C's stuff and for Hawki's nursing
>stuff. It really has not been so long ago.
>

A lot of people were/are hit with the blame game. Sort of the old
shotgun effect, blast everybody in sight and hope the guilty party
falls. After that if it isn't you, me or the next poster who were/are
blamed, then we were/are blamed for not condemning it. It was/is a
lose, lose, lose issue.

This is even going on now with the latest round of BS even with the
party who committed the grievance 100% taking personal responsibility
for their actions.

Then after all that is done we have to listen to what Mouse, Ziggy, or
Mr. X did or did not do years ago and are no longer active
participates here. Even people who are no longer alive are continued
to be vilified by certain persons.

I full well understand Juba's current position on some of these issues
in that he is now being brought to task for some of his sins of the
past. It would really be nice if we could all get past all that, but
for some reason I just really don't think it is going to happen. Some
peoples feelings were hurt really, really bad and some can/will hold a
grudge for a real long time.

Look at the Jite/Morton debacle that is what about two decades old?
What about the Jews/Muslims/Christians a couple of centuries? Will
our children be picking up the mantle and carrying on the battles
here? I hope the hell not. Perhaps we need to have a summit, the
Bar-B-Que at Juba's house that James Bradley keeps talking about? I
don't know what it will take. I thought by letting people getting to
know me as a person, husband, father, would help, but all it did was
give people ammunition to make me more angry and dig my trench deeper.




--
"patients who undertake opioid maintenance therapy
should behave in a way that is beyond reproach or
suspicion in all matters relating to their use of
medications. Patients who are unwilling or unable
to do so jeopardize not only their own health and
safety, but the health and safety of other patients
with chronic pain." -- Dr. Hurwitz
Gigglz

2005-07-03, 12:12 pm

On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 21:16:01 -0800, Ruada <noone@neverever.ord> wrote:

>I did not say she did it -- I just said I was blamed. Are you all really so
>dense I have to go back and find the posts themselves?


No, I'm not dense.
Sorry to discredit your beliefs.


>
>You all know I was blamed for posting C's stuff and for Hawki's nursing
>stuff. It really has not been so long ago.



I wasn't involved...or are you "so dense" that I have to go back and
find the posts themselves?

Sheesh!


N


[vbcol=seagreen]
>
>
>
>Gigglz wrote:
>

2005-07-03, 12:12 pm


"ZombyWoof" <Zomby-Woof@Zappa.net> wrote in message
news:k0eac153grioqbo3rov852ratc3go1so0p@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 07:39:49 GMT, <Hawki63@sbcglobal.net> wrote
> something wonderfully witty:
>
> Your brain is in your foot? Puts a whole new meaning into stink foot.


I correct .....addled brain due to PAIN in broken foot!!!


>
> --
> "patients who undertake opioid maintenance therapy
> should behave in a way that is beyond reproach or
> suspicion in all matters relating to their use of
> medications. Patients who are unwilling or unable
> to do so jeopardize not only their own health and
> safety, but the health and safety of other patients
> with chronic pain." -- Dr. Hurwitz



Juba

2005-07-03, 12:12 pm

"ZombyWoof" <Zomby-Woof@Zappa.net> wrote in message
news:93eac1t97fso7lk0k161a8kd31jvo5s2ta@4ax.com
> I full well understand Juba's current position on some of these issues
> in that he is now being brought to task for some of his sins of the
> past. It would really be nice if we could all get past all that, but
> for some reason I just really don't think it is going to happen. Some
> peoples feelings were hurt really, really bad and some can/will hold a
> grudge for a real long time.


It's never possible to get everyone to agree on anything. I am willing
to start fresh with anyone who extends the same courtesy to me, but I
will not allow anyone to have it both ways.

Ruada has already made her choice on that. If she brings up the past,
then those she names have the right to do the same to her.

If Jite wants to continue to talk about the past that is his preogative
and his responsibility. It is not my responsibility. Anything he says
does not justify anyone bringing up anyone else's past but his.
--
Juba
www.masterjuba.com


Juba

2005-07-03, 12:12 pm

"Gigglz" <Frekklz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:9gjac1laacie0v0cdguh8oa3unst6hk328@4ax.com
> On Thu, 30 Jun 2005 21:16:01 -0800, Ruada <noone@neverever.ord> wrote:
>
>
> No, I'm not dense.
> Sorry to discredit your beliefs.
>
>
>
>
> I wasn't involved...or are you "so dense" that I have to go back and
> find the posts themselves?
>
> Sheesh!
>
>
> N


Don't let her dark nature bother you Nada. Rudie reminds me a lot of the
way my mother used to be; she always looks at the dark side of
everything. She could win a lottery and be afraid to collect for fear
that she was being set up somehow.

--
Juba
www.masterjuba.com


Gigglz

2005-07-03, 12:12 pm

On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 11:47:59 -0700, "Juba" <juba@XmasterjubaX.com>
wrote:

>"Gigglz" <Frekklz@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:9gjac1laacie0v0cdguh8oa3unst6hk328@4ax.com
>
>Don't let her dark nature bother you Nada. Rudie reminds me a lot of the
>way my mother used to be; she always looks at the dark side of
>everything. She could win a lottery and be afraid to collect for fear
>that she was being set up somehow.



Thanks. It must be a paranoia thing. My "mother" is like that, too.
I hope I never get that bitter and paranoid. I've tried to extend my
good thoughts to Ruada, even pinged her in here to ask how she was.
All I ever get back are insults or insinuations. I give up!

N


Paul T. Holland

2005-07-03, 12:12 pm

too true hawki - just stay off the foot and let your body heel!

Hawki63@sbcglobal.net wrote:

> "user" <12664@asia.com> wrote in message
> news:1120037148.104634.51370@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
>
> ya know...enuf is enuf
>
> having also been...twice...the victim of the shock of seeing my nursing
> license/np number appear on the screen....my birthday and given name...and
> gotten a letter from an NP organization telling me that a "kook" had written
> asking about my credentials...
>
> not to mention losing a few "friendships" along the way...
>
> life is full of people we don't like...or have problems with..
>
> far be it for me...hot blooded Italian that I am...to lecture anyone else on
> temper control...
>
> but.......
>
> enuf said....
>
> life is too short for all of this...


Paul T. Holland

2005-07-03, 12:12 pm

you did the best you could nada - just keep that great big ol heart of yours
and you won't go wrong.

Gigglz wrote:

> On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 11:47:59 -0700, "Juba" <juba@XmasterjubaX.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks. It must be a paranoia thing. My "mother" is like that, too.
> I hope I never get that bitter and paranoid. I've tried to extend my
> good thoughts to Ruada, even pinged her in here to ask how she was.
> All I ever get back are insults or insinuations. I give up!
>
> N


Gigglz

2005-07-03, 12:12 pm

It's getting smaller every day!

Nada



On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 19:43:40 GMT, "Paul T. Holland"
<pholland@bellatlantic.net> wrote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
>you did the best you could nada - just keep that great big ol heart of yours
>and you won't go wrong.
>
>Gigglz wrote:
>

OneTiredGrandma

2005-07-03, 12:12 pm

X-No-Archive: yes

I tried being courteous to Rudie for about 2 years. I've apologized
for things I didn't even know what I was apologizing for. I've tried
to show respect, concern and given support to her in many areas.

The only thing Rudie wants is for everyone to see her as a poor victim
that everybody picks on. After a while, people get tired of trying to
befriend her only to be stuck with her pointy stick. Nothing works,
she lives in the past and holds grudges for any little thing for a
lifetime, even imaginary offenses. Yet, it's ok for her to come into
this forum any time she likes and poke anyone she likes with her pointy
stick. It is a pity actually, to be so unhappy.

Look how many people offered her support and encouragement recently
when she was needing to find a new doctor. She didn't acknowledge any
of the support she received from anyone. What a pity to be so self
absorbed that you can't even acknowledge the support others offer.
Don't let anything she says make you feel bad Nada. You are 100 times
the person she is and we all know that.


Gigglz wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 11:47:59 -0700, "Juba" <juba@XmasterjubaX.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Thanks. It must be a paranoia thing. My "mother" is like that, too.
> I hope I never get that bitter and paranoid. I've tried to extend my
> good thoughts to Ruada, even pinged her in here to ask how she was.
> All I ever get back are insults or insinuations. I give up!
>
> N


Gigglz

2005-07-03, 12:12 pm

Perhaps she suffers depression. It would be common...most of us do.
If so, I hope she treats it before it effects her health.
Been there, done that!

Thanks for understanding. It's often I beat a dead horse. :-(

Love,
N




On 1 Jul 2005 19:18:23 -0700, "OneTiredGrandma"
<OneTiredGrandma@gmail.com> wrote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
>X-No-Archive: yes
>
>I tried being courteous to Rudie for about 2 years. I've apologized
>for things I didn't even know what I was apologizing for. I've tried
>to show respect, concern and given support to her in many areas.
>
>The only thing Rudie wants is for everyone to see her as a poor victim
>that everybody picks on. After a while, people get tired of trying to
>befriend her only to be stuck with her pointy stick. Nothing works,
>she lives in the past and holds grudges for any little thing for a
>lifetime, even imaginary offenses. Yet, it's ok for her to come into
>this forum any time she likes and poke anyone she likes with her pointy
>stick. It is a pity actually, to be so unhappy.
>
>Look how many people offered her support and encouragement recently
>when she was needing to find a new doctor. She didn't acknowledge any
>of the support she received from anyone. What a pity to be so self
>absorbed that you can't even acknowledge the support others offer.
>Don't let anything she says make you feel bad Nada. You are 100 times
>the person she is and we all know that.
>
>
>Gigglz wrote:

Codeee01@hotmail.com

2005-07-03, 12:13 pm

On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 18:56:49 GMT, Gigglz <Frekklz@hotmail.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 1 Jul 2005 11:47:59 -0700, "Juba" <juba@XmasterjubaX.com>
>wrote:
>
>
>
>Thanks. It must be a paranoia thing. My "mother" is like that, too.
>I hope I never get that bitter and paranoid. I've tried to extend my
>good thoughts to Ruada, even pinged her in here to ask how she was.
>All I ever get back are insults or insinuations. I give up!
>
>N
>



Don't let them get to ya Nada. No one would have "blamed" anyone had
there not been MORE than ample proof.

codeee
Codeee01@hotmail.com

2005-07-03, 12:13 pm

On Fri, 01 Jul 2005 07:39:49 GMT, <Hawki63@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
>
>"Ruada" <noone@neverever.ord> wrote in message
>news:da2itf$j2s$1@bwahahahaha.databasix.com...
>
>ah...tri as in three...sorry ...addled brain due to broken foot!!
>
>
>


Hawki you are so right, you didn't blame anyone, and it's time to get
over it.

However, the person who protesteth so much, truly shouldn't even WANT
this topic brought up. None of us do, and she...would be the last,
I'd think.

codeee
Muy Groso

2005-07-06, 10:52 pm

This is a reply to "Paul T. Holland"
<pholland@bellatlantic.net> who probably wont like what I
have to say.:

>cross post to other group deleted -
>
>this should not involve the spouse - ken removed her from the table by
>removing links to her, and that should be good enough
>
>even if you really, really, want him to answer for whatever you have a
>beef with him about - this is not the way to accomplish it.
>
>i am sure that theirs is as good family as any one else's - and family
>should not be considered a tactic.
>
>paul


YOU DID THIS YOU BONEHEAD!
This is all your doing. Its exactly what you wanted to
happen and what every person here a while KNEW would happen.
Damn, who do you think yer fooling?
Oh yeah, a bunch of sour vengefull bitches and squealing
losers and a few newbies who havent a clue.

This is it. The most widely used form of online intimidation
since the first bbs linked to another. SHUTUP OR I WILL TAKE
EVERYONE TO YOUR FRONT DOOR WHERE YOUR FAMILY LIVES.
Morton will have it, the Unabomber will have it, serial
killers and stalkers and gunloons and militias and racist
groups and gay haters and abortion bombers and Identity
theives and on and on... You pig.

Its disgusting, its unAmerican, and its fascist bullshit.
Your it. You shit all over yourself and it soaked in so far
its stink forever.

Again. Every commercial ISP I have looked at has rules
against exposing peoples names and addresses and
information. Every internet magazine and journalists warns
against using any information that can lead all the whackos
in this medium to your door and bank and doctor...

But not you and your little gang of squealers. You are the
ones they are talking about. Make sure yall do it from
proxies and anons... You pig.
[vbcol=seagreen]
>user wrote:
>

---
"One thing I can give George W. Bush, he is at least smarter
than anyone who voted for him." http://rackjite.com
Juba

2005-07-06, 10:52 pm

"Muy Groso" <rackjite@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
news:26foc1ppcehvdlb17e1r0hntdg4knmdars@4ax.com
> This is a reply to "Paul T. Holland"
> <pholland@bellatlantic.net> who probably wont like what I
> have to say.:
>
> YOU DID THIS YOU BONEHEAD!
> This is all your doing. Its exactly what you wanted to
> happen and what every person here a while KNEW would happen.
> Damn, who do you think yer fooling?
> Oh yeah, a bunch of sour vengefull bitches and squealing
> losers and a few newbies who havent a clue.


Dude, calm down. Your outrage would have been great last week, but Paul
and his supporters are not here now, so you might as well save it.

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Juba
www.masterjuba.com


ZombyWoof

2005-07-07, 8:50 am

On Wed, 06 Jul 2005 20:37:52 GMT, Muy Groso <rackjite@houston.rr.com>
wrote:

>This is a reply to "Paul T. Holland"
><pholland@bellatlantic.net> who probably wont like what I
>have to say.:
>
>
>YOU DID THIS YOU BONEHEAD!
>

No he didn't he gave someone a loaded gun, but they pulled the
trigger.

>This is all your doing. Its exactly what you wanted to
>happen and what every person here a while KNEW would happen.
>

Adding mind reader to your resume?

>Damn, who do you think yer fooling?
>

You, it is fairly easy to do. Although fooling a fool is no great
accomplishment.

>Oh yeah, a bunch of sour vengefull bitches and squealing
>losers and a few newbies who havent a clue.
>

What is your excuse? You brought Morton here. You damn well knew he
follows you out and about everywhere you go, but you still brought him
here. On top of that you aren't even value added as to the purpose of
the group. All you do is cause pain with your political bullshit that
you can't hold your own with in the proper NG's.

<bullshit rant snipped>
>Again. Every commercial ISP I have looked at has rules
>against exposing peoples names and addresses and
>information. Every internet magazine and journalists warns
>against using any information that can lead all the whackos
>in this medium to your door and bank and doctor...
>

Consider yourself called out. Post 1, simply one ISP that has in
either their AUP or TOS the fact that calling someone by their legal
given name is against any of their reasons for account termination.
Hell a lot of people use their legal given name in their reader
configuration. Paul certainly does in this group.


If I know your legal given name I can use it without recrimination.
The fact that I don't is out of courtesy, which I have absolutely no
idea why I extend to you anyways since you are so fond of accusing me
of things I've never done, and consider anything ever done to be to be
of no consequence in your little world of right and wrong. Or should
I say Right & Leftist?
--

Please Don't Steal - The Government Hates Competition

ZommbyWoof
(take the dogs when replying via e-mail)
ZombyWoof

2005-07-07, 8:50 am

On Wed, 6 Jul 2005 13:45:27 -0700, "Juba" <juba@XmasterjubaX.com>
wrote:

>"Muy Groso" <rackjite@houston.rr.com> wrote in message
>news:26foc1ppcehvdlb17e1r0hntdg4knmdars@4ax.com
>
>Dude, calm down. Your outrage would have been great last week, but Paul
>and his supporters are not here now, so you might as well save it.
>

Give him a break. He doesn't want to get lumped in with your pile of
people who said nothing so he has to go on record with his outrage.
--

Please Don't Steal - The Government Hates Competition

ZommbyWoof
(take the dogs when replying via e-mail)
Me

2005-07-07, 8:50 am


In article w/msg ID: <26foc1ppcehvdlb17e1r0hntdg4knmdars@4ax.com>, Muy
Groso, rackjite@houston.rr.com posted:


>This is it. The most widely used form of online intimidation
>since the first bbs linked to another. SHUTUP OR I WILL TAKE
>EVERYONE TO YOUR FRONT DOOR WHERE YOUR FAMILY LIVES.
>Morton will have it, the Unabomber will have it, serial
>killers and stalkers and gunloons and militias and racist
>groups and gay haters and abortion bombers and Identity
>theives and on and on... You pig.
>
>Its disgusting, its unAmerican, and its fascist bullshit.
>Your it. You shit all over yourself and it soaked in so far
>its stink forever



Where was your outrage when Ken Padgett was doing this?
Please post the message IDs of the times your hackles were raised when
Juba went after anyone who dared to disagree with that convicted drug
abuser Marilu Rudez?

Your hypocrisy, XXXXXXX, knows no bounds.




me
Chris Morton

2005-07-07, 8:50 am

In article <26foc1ppcehvdlb17e1r0hntdg4knmdars@4ax.com>, Muy Groso says...

>YOU DID THIS YOU BONEHEAD!


What are you going to do, call his employer?

When are you going to grow a pair and USE my address?


--

--
Gun control, the theory that 110lb. women should have to fistfight with 210lb.
rapists.
Paul T. Holland

2005-07-09, 12:03 pm

like i've said many times - at least you are right up front with your
opinions -

Muy Groso wrote:

> This is a reply to "Paul T. Holland"
> <pholland@bellatlantic.net> who probably wont like what I
> have to say.:
>
>
> YOU DID THIS YOU BONEHEAD!
> This is all your doing. Its exactly what you wanted to
> happen and what every person here a while KNEW would happen.
> Damn, who do you think yer fooling?
> Oh yeah, a bunch of sour vengefull bitches and squealing
> losers and a few newbies who havent a clue.
>
> This is it. The most widely used form of online intimidation
> since the first bbs linked to another. SHUTUP OR I WILL TAKE
> EVERYONE TO YOUR FRONT DOOR WHERE YOUR FAMILY LIVES.
> Morton will have it, the Unabomber will have it, serial
> killers and stalkers and gunloons and militias and racist
> groups and gay haters and abortion bombers and Identity
> theives and on and on... You pig.
>
> Its disgusting, its unAmerican, and its fascist bullshit.
> Your it. You shit all over yourself and it soaked in so far
> its stink forever.
>
> Again. Every commercial ISP I have looked at has rules
> against exposing peoples names and addresses and
> information. Every internet magazine and journalists warns
> against using any information that can lead all the whackos
> in this medium to your door and bank and doctor...
>
> But not you and your little gang of squealers. You are the
> ones they are talking about. Make sure yall do it from
> proxies and anons... You pig.
>
>
> ---
> "One thing I can give George W. Bush, he is at least smarter
> than anyone who voted for him." http://rackjite.com


Muy Groso

2005-07-09, 5:49 pm

This is a reply to Ruada <noone@neverever.ord> who probably
wont like what I have to say.:

>The stuff I was blamed for? Oh how quickly everyone forgets just how much
>pain was inflicted with no knowledge or proof.


Put a cork in it Ruada... You are the cause of 90% of the
angst in this group since day one...
The paranoia, the vengeance, the sour personality and above
all, the psychotic need to control this group.


---
"One thing I can give George W. Bush, he is at least smarter
than anyone who voted for him." http://rackjite.com
Chris Morton

2005-07-09, 5:49 pm

In article <6830d1p10704t7abq3f1q26p6640mi7f0j@4ax.com>, Muy Groso says...
>
>This is a reply to Ruada <noone@neverever.ord> who probably
>wont like what I have to say.:
>
>
>Put a cork in it Ruada... You are the cause of 90% of the


Why don't you make her?

Better yet, why don't you make ME?

Bring your crossburning pals. We can reinact Little Roundtop.


--

--
Gun control, the theory that 110lb. women should have to fistfight with 210lb.
rapists.
Muy Groso

2005-07-09, 10:50 pm

This is a reply to Ruada <noone@neverever.ord> who probably
wont like what I have to say.:

>Gigglz wrote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
>I did not say she did it -- I just said I was blamed. Are you all really so
>dense I have to go back and find the posts themselves?


Please do. And remember... Paranoia will destroya...

>You all know I was blamed for posting C's stuff and for Hawki's nursing
>stuff. It really has not been so long ago.


It was Old Rosie who did all that and we all know it. Of
course your little suckup trolls Armadillo and Burns did all
the filthy dirty work which you openly applauded.

I have never witnessed a more dour, sour, nasty, paranoid
revenge seeking control freak than you Ruada.
And theres DATRUTH.


---
"One thing I can give George W. Bush, he is at least smarter
than anyone who voted for him." http://rackjite.com
Chris Morton

2005-07-10, 8:51 am

In article <38u0d1lp3hpjjb67225cb5o6lm7p38ckhs@4ax.com>, Muy Groso says...

>Please do. And remember... Paranoia will destroya...


What's going to destroy ME, Dave?

You and your sheetwearing pals?

Bring your shotgun and bring it on.

Come to think of it, I recall you harassing people in alt.support.impotence.
Maybe that explains your impotent threats....


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--
Gun control, the theory that 110lb. women should have to fistfight with 210lb.
rapists.
Muy Groso

2005-08-11, 5:50 pm

This is a reply to ZombyWoof <Zomby-Woofdogs@Cox.net> who
probably wont like what I have to say.:

[vbcol=seagreen]
>No he didn't he gave someone a loaded gun, but they pulled the
>trigger.


As I said, Paul the bonehead did this. Or is this
Zombyjustice, Lucianno gives a loaded gun to Mario and tells
him to make him an offer he cant refuse, so Lucianno is not
guilty? Zombyjustice! Like Zombypolitics and Zombyshit.

>Adding mind reader to your resume?


I will repeat that, this rash of pvt info posted on Juba is
exactly what Paul intended, and every person knew that was
his intention. Except you, and probably LC and Morton and
Ruada and that entire lovely little gang of yours...
Whats it called, the Breakfast Losers Club?

[vbcol=seagreen]
>What is your excuse? You brought Morton here. You damn well knew he
>follows you out and about everywhere you go, but you still brought him
>here. On top of that you aren't even value added as to the purpose of
>the group. All you do is cause pain with your political bullshit that
>you can't hold your own with in the proper NG's.


Zombylogic. The stalker is guilty of being stalked and
stalker is his pal around here. Zombylogic...

And you close the paragraph with the bottom problem here.
YOU and YOURS are going to decide who is worthy of support,
whose pain is sufficeint to participate, who is not skirting
any laws, who can BE HERE and WHO CANT and the intimidation
used to get rid of those of us who stand up to you sorry
MFers.
Gosh... Not is not the right word, its busybody LOSERS...
Sorry XXX control freak losers... Thats it...
Its why you are all drawn together, no one else will have
you.

And next thing ya know yall will be attacking me for LATE
POSTING... Oh the horror...



---
"One thing I can give George W. Bush, he is at least smarter
than anyone who voted for him." http://rackjite.com
Chris Morton

2005-08-12, 8:51 am

In article <ivdnf1dflkuqn4jmo855sq82gpv1gpu8uo@4ax.com>, Muy Groso says...

>Zombylogic. The stalker is guilty of being stalked and
>stalker is his pal around here. Zombylogic...


Bring it on, you Jew hating coward.

Your pet monkeys can post my address, but you and they can't follow the
directions?

What, are you retarded?


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--
Gun control, the theory that 110lb. women should have to fistfight with 210lb.
rapists.
ZombyWoof

2005-08-12, 8:51 am

On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 20:50:39 GMT, Muy Groso <rackjite@houston.rr.com>
wrote:

>This is a reply to ZombyWoof <Zomby-Woofdogs@Cox.net> who
>probably wont like what I have to say.:
>
>
>
>As I said, Paul the bonehead did this. Or is this
>Zombyjustice, Lucianno gives a loaded gun to Mario and tells
>him to make him an offer he cant refuse, so Lucianno is not
>guilty? Zombyjustice! Like Zombypolitics and Zombyshit.
>
>
>I will repeat that, this rash of pvt info posted on Juba is
>exactly what Paul intended, and every person knew that was
>his intention. Except you, and probably LC and Morton and
>Ruada and that entire lovely little gang of yours...
>Whats it called, the Breakfast Losers Club?
>
>
>
>Zombylogic. The stalker is guilty of being stalked and
>stalker is his pal around here. Zombylogic...
>
>And you close the paragraph with the bottom problem here.
>YOU and YOURS are going to decide who is worthy of support,
>whose pain is sufficeint to participate, who is not skirting
>any laws, who can BE HERE and WHO CANT and the intimidation
>used to get rid of those of us who stand up to you sorry
>MFers.
>Gosh... Not is not the right word, its busybody LOSERS...
>Sorry XXX control freak losers... Thats it...
>Its why you are all drawn together, no one else will have
>you.
>
>And next thing ya know yall will be attacking me for LATE
>POSTING... Oh the horror...
>

Nah, everyone know your a day late and a dollar short anyway's. The
minute you are something other the a royal pain in the XXX pissing &
moaning hypocrite who actually provides some level of support on the
topic at hand I might have to concede that you have a right to be
here. However, until that time I stand by my statement that you are
not value added.
--

Please Don't Steal - The Government Hates Competition

ZombyWoof
(take the dogs when replying via e-mail)
Chris Morton

2005-08-12, 11:49 am

In article <rh4pf1lo3o263bofhv00h8r9vr9n5v2vg9@4ax.com>, ZombyWoof says...
>
>On Thu, 11 Aug 2005 20:50:39 GMT, Muy Groso <rackjite@houston.rr.com>
>wrote:
>
>Nah, everyone know your a day late and a dollar short anyway's. The
>minute you are something other the a royal pain in the XXX pissing &
>moaning hypocrite who actually provides some level of support on the
>topic at hand I might have to concede that you have a right to be
>here. However, until that time I stand by my statement that you are
>not value added.


His tools in the neo-Nazi National Alliance disagree.


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--
Gun control, the theory that 110lb. women should have to fistfight with 210lb.
rapists.
Paul T. Holland

2005-08-12, 5:49 pm

gosh rj - joined the mentalist crowd i see - well - that's your opinion -
doesn't make it true or accurate, but what the heck! nothing new from you
in this is there.

paul

Muy Groso wrote:
<snip opinion presented as fact>

Codeee01@hotmail.com

2005-08-12, 10:49 pm

On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 19:43:42 GMT, "Paul T. Holland"
<pholland@bellatlantic.net> wrote:

>gosh rj - joined the mentalist crowd i see - well - that's your opinion -
>doesn't make it true or accurate, but what the heck! nothing new from you
>in this is there.



Yoda speak!

New from you, this is.


>
>paul
>
>Muy Groso wrote:
><snip opinion presented as fact>


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