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| jumbo buddha 2005-12-19, 12:56 am |
| can't we all just try and get along and stop living in the past. don't
hate. life is too short.
peace and happiness to you.
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| Legend_of_53 2005-12-19, 10:56 am |
| Wishing you the best, too. I've been here, and I'm still a "newbie". I'm
beginning to understand what makes some people angry, but this could be
such a great group, if people didn't hold hold grudges. Since I've been
here, there have been people (including myself) who could'nt get along.
But I can give you one piece of advice; although it wasn't this bad, last
year, during the holidays,it got worse, then got better. So, before
making up your mind, stop by say, between April and July. things may have
improved. Or maybe not. But, try and make a visit, before finalizing your
plans. I haven't had a chance to know you, as I've had the flu,so, give it
a second chance.
Looking forward to hearing from you.
-Legend
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| "jumbo buddha" <jumbobud@buddang.net> wrote in message
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> can't we all just try and get along and stop living in the past. don't
> hate. life is too short.
> peace and happiness to you.
Nice sentiment, but the people you are appealing to are mentally ill.
They won't ever listen to reason or appeals to decency.
--
Juba
www.masterjuba.com
Read the alt.support.chronic-pain Kook Faq
http://www.masterjuba.com/kook.htm
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| Rosemarie Shiver 2005-12-19, 12:52 pm |
| Sure 'we' will. Just as soon as you and yer illegal pill selling behind
dildo sales and yer wife taking money from HER company for the garbage you
cobble together and call it 'professional' is outta here for good.
LOLOL@ Kenny by Rosie
--
"If you wanna get it done, you gotta fight for yourself." -- Meat Loaf, Bat
Outta Hell II
"Juba" <juba@XmasterjubaX.com> wrote in message
news:do6po6$8rt$2@pita.alt.net...
> "jumbo buddha" <jumbobud@buddang.net> wrote in message
> news:Agspf.14118$eo.1444@read1.cgocable.net
>
> Nice sentiment, but the people you are appealing to are mentally ill.
> They won't ever listen to reason or appeals to decency.
> --
> Juba
> www.masterjuba.com
>
> Read the alt.support.chronic-pain Kook Faq
> http://www.masterjuba.com/kook.htm
>
>
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| LooseCannon 2005-12-19, 12:52 pm |
| Juba wrote:
> "jumbo buddha" <jumbobud@buddang.net> wrote in message
> news:Agspf.14118$eo.1444@read1.cgocable.net
>
>
>
> Nice sentiment, but the people you are appealing to are mentally ill.
> They won't ever listen to reason or appeals to decency.
Once again, Kenny gives us a window into his thought process AND he
excludes himself from the problems here, as if he has nuthin to do with
em. How sorry he is...
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| I have one question in this regard...and for the group as a whole
WHY do you all concern yourself with another's business ventures..whether
they are legal or not...
should be of NO concern to anyone else...
"Rosemarie Shiver" <post147@strato.net> wrote in message
news:40o8r9F1a7aknU1@individual.net...
> Sure 'we' will. Just as soon as you and yer illegal pill selling behind
> dildo sales and yer wife taking money from HER company for the garbage you
> cobble together and call it 'professional' is outta here for good.
>
> LOLOL@ Kenny by Rosie
>
> --
> "If you wanna get it done, you gotta fight for yourself." -- Meat Loaf,
> Bat
> Outta Hell II
> "Juba" <juba@XmasterjubaX.com> wrote in message
> news:do6po6$8rt$2@pita.alt.net...
>
>
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| LooseCannon 2005-12-19, 12:52 pm |
| Hawki63@sbcglobal.net wrote:
> I have one question in this regard...and for the group as a whole
>
> WHY do you all concern yourself with another's business ventures..whether
> they are legal or not...
>
> should be of NO concern to anyone else...
Cuz Kenny concerned himself with her husband and made up an illegal
business that he claimed her husband was involved with, and "advertised"
(which is spam in everyone elses book) it on Usenet, trying to cause
them financial harm and possibly other harm too.
Dontcha think that now she can return the favor (cuz she now knows who
Kenny is) she shouldn't?
>
>
> "Rosemarie Shiver" <post147@strato.net> wrote in message
> news:40o8r9F1a7aknU1@individual.net...
>
>
>
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| <Hawki63@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:_9Cpf.44031$Zv5.22852@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net
> I have one question in this regard...and for the group as a whole
>
> WHY do you all concern yourself with another's business
> ventures..whether they are legal or not...
>
> should be of NO concern to anyone else...
They blame me for all sorts of things that I had nothing to do with. As
you know, there have been many "free agents" floating in and out of here
over the past few years who have done all sorts of evil deeds to both
sides.
They've decided to blame me for every bad thing that ever happened to
them. You'll see them state a lot of things as if they were fact when
nothing could be further from the truth.
They latched on to the advertising on my web sites because it was
something they could easily lie about. Their demagoging and witch
hunting on this one issue would put the red-baiter Joe McCarthy to
shame.
The Kook Faq was the final straw for them. They have been repeating my
real name and their lies about me thousands of times because they know
it's archived and available on several web sites forever. They
apparently thought I was going to take that lying down, but they were
very wrong about that
Of course they don't want any negative information about them available
on the web even though it's little more than their own despicable words
and deeds. And so they are in a blind rage over the Kook Faq. They are
totally out of control and they are doing all of the things they used to
condemn and so much more, including RL attacks on my wife, her company
and my web business.
You may have settled your issue with Rosie but you know how she is with
the RL threats and attacks. The rest of them are just as bad now.
--
Juba
www.masterjuba.com
Read the alt.support.chronic-pain Kook Faq
http://www.masterjuba.com/kook.htm
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| Paul T. Holland 2005-12-19, 5:55 pm |
| hey jb!
indeed these are fine sentiments - and you will find that most share this
with you -
on the other hand, there is someone who not only lives in the past - but
continues to behave the same way in the present - kenny just doesn't accept
that folk don't care for what he does - no big thing - and easy to kill
file those that participate. enjoy the fine folk who support each other and
ignore the the dross.
be well
paul
jumbo buddha wrote:
> can't we all just try and get along and stop living in the past. don't
> hate. life is too short.
> peace and happiness to you.
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| Paul T. Holland 2005-12-19, 5:55 pm |
| lololol
that's ok kenny - your rules remember?
Juba wrote:
> "jumbo buddha" <jumbobud@buddang.net> wrote in message
> news:Agspf.14118$eo.1444@read1.cgocable.net
>
> Nice sentiment, but the people you are appealing to are mentally ill.
> They won't ever listen to reason or appeals to decency.
> --
> Juba
> www.masterjuba.com
>
> Read the alt.support.chronic-pain Kook Faq
> http://www.masterjuba.com/kook.htm
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| Rosemarie Shiver 2005-12-19, 5:55 pm |
| Because diversion of opiates is indeed criminal and makes getting pain
relief that much tuffer for true chronic pain patients.
Because if you've heard the stories of Codeee and Legend getting caught
having pills they should not have had, you'd not want that to happen to
anyone else...as they both shouldn't, as well.
Because being a blackmarket pill peddler is a vile thing to do. Doing it
here to take advantage of people in pain is even more vile. CNN just today
says that teenage smoking is way down but teenagers getting hooked on
prescription pain meds. is on the rise. Look at it yerself at www.CNN.com
So I'm more useful here for young people than at the two stop smoking NG's
I'm at. Getting rid of Juba is more beneficial to society than trying to get
kids to not smoke...less of 'em smokin' and more getting into blackmarket
pain pills. As a medical professional the ethics of yer profession demand
that you be against both smoking and illegal opiate purchasing. So please
follow along here: Juba rots people's bodies ( esp. teens) as he empties
the wallets of all who fall for his websites, ok?
That should be enuff reasons. But if you want more I can go on.....
Other Rosie Hugs from Rosie
--
"If you wanna get it done, you gotta fight for yourself." -- Meat Loaf, Bat
Outta Hell II
<Hawki63@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:_9Cpf.44031$Zv5.22852@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net...
> I have one question in this regard...and for the group as a whole
>
> WHY do you all concern yourself with another's business ventures..whether
> they are legal or not...
>
> should be of NO concern to anyone else...
>
>
> "Rosemarie Shiver" <post147@strato.net> wrote in message
> news:40o8r9F1a7aknU1@individual.net...
behind[vbcol=seagreen]
you[vbcol=seagreen]
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>
>
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| ZombyWoof 2005-12-19, 5:55 pm |
| On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 17:33:46 GMT, <Hawki63@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>I have one question in this regard...and for the group as a whole
>
>WHY do you all concern yourself with another's business ventures..whether
>they are legal or not...
>
>should be of NO concern to anyone else...
>
Well I'll address your question from my perspective. It wasn't of a
concern of mine until other issues made it a concern of mine. Even
though I personally feel that diversion via gray-market sales is one
of the things that makes your professional life harder and mine as a
patient a little rougher as well I was happy allowing it to be what it
was presented as being.
However, when a certain person decided that it was OK to use my real
name on a website that is directly connected with said dubious
gray-market business venture I decided I had been given free license
by said person to discuss anything and everything on said website and
the pages contained within.
Does that make any sense to you?
>
>"Rosemarie Shiver" <post147@strato.net> wrote in message
>news:40o8r9F1a7aknU1@individual.net...
>
--
Zombywoof
Si vis Pacem, Para bellum
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| Ronnie 2005-12-19, 5:55 pm |
| Is there something that you would like to ask about your health issue?
Even the ppl that are in disagreement give out good advice. Hope
you decide to give the group another chance... Either way have a nice
holiday..
Ronnie
---
"Kindness is a hard thing to give away,
for it is usually returned."
"jumbo buddha" <jumbobud@buddang.net> wrote in message
news:Agspf.14118$eo.1444@read1.cgocable.net...
> can't we all just try and get along and stop living in the past. don't
> hate. life is too short.
> peace and happiness to you.
| |
| ZombyWoof 2005-12-19, 5:55 pm |
| On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 10:27:17 -0800, "Juba" <juba@XmasterjubaX.com>
wrote:
><Hawki63@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
>news:_9Cpf.44031$Zv5.22852@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net
>
>
>They blame me for all sorts of things that I had nothing to do with. As
>you know, there have been many "free agents" floating in and out of here
>over the past few years who have done all sorts of evil deeds to both
>sides.
>
>They've decided to blame me for every bad thing that ever happened to
>them. You'll see them state a lot of things as if they were fact when
>nothing could be further from the truth.
>
>They latched on to the advertising on my web sites because it was
>something they could easily lie about. Their demagoging and witch
>hunting on this one issue would put the red-baiter Joe McCarthy to
>shame.
>
>The Kook Faq was the final straw for them. They have been repeating my
>real name and their lies about me thousands of times because they know
>it's archived and available on several web sites forever. They
>apparently thought I was going to take that lying down, but they were
>very wrong about that
>
>Of course they don't want any negative information about them available
>on the web even though it's little more than their own despicable words
>and deeds. And so they are in a blind rage over the Kook Faq. They are
>totally out of control and they are doing all of the things they used to
>condemn and so much more, including RL attacks on my wife, her company
>and my web business.
>
>You may have settled your issue with Rosie but you know how she is with
>the RL threats and attacks. The rest of them are just as bad now.
>
Gee absolutely no personal culpability at all huh? The minute you
integrated my real name into your dubious business ventures you gave
me free license to say whatever I want about said ventures. You
brought me into your business life, not the other way around.
Intermingling your professional, personal, and pissant little forum
flamefest all into one big package was your choice, your doing not
anyone else at alls. Pardon me I need to go see if the
Juba_Is_A_Pill_Peddler.com is an available domain. Wouldn't want to
integrate that into my personal business web servers. It might have
unintended consequences. Think Kenny, think. Or has your brain been
addled by to much ganja?
--
Zombywoof
Si vis Pacem, Para bellum
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|
| "ZombyWoof" <Zomby-Woofdogs@Cox.net> wrote in message
news:4m1eq1plnr93f31hab45hj5tpduunah88g@4ax.com
> On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 10:27:17 -0800, "Juba" <juba@XmasterjubaX.com>
> wrote:
>
> Gee absolutely no personal culpability at all huh?
That's right. None at all.
> The minute you
> integrated my real name into your dubious business ventures
More ridiculous lying from you.
Your real name has not been connected to my business ventures. It's on
the Kook faq because you started using my real name here and it's not
coming off now until you stop "enabling" the criminal stalking.
--
Juba
www.masterjuba.com
Read the alt.support.chronic-pain Kook Faq
http://www.masterjuba.com/kook.htm
| |
| Rosemarie Shiver 2005-12-19, 5:56 pm |
| >>Gee absolutely no personal culpability at all huh?
>That's right. None at all.
Let's see if the IRS agrees, Kenny.
Real CP'er Hugs from Rosie
--
"If you wanna get it done, you gotta fight for yourself." -- Meat Loaf, Bat
Outta Hell II
"Juba" <juba@XmasterjubaX.com> wrote in message
news:do72aa$gbf$0@pita.alt.net...
> "ZombyWoof" <Zomby-Woofdogs@Cox.net> wrote in message
> news:4m1eq1plnr93f31hab45hj5tpduunah88g@4ax.com
>
> That's right. None at all.
>
>
> More ridiculous lying from you.
>
> Your real name has not been connected to my business ventures. It's on
> the Kook faq because you started using my real name here and it's not
> coming off now until you stop "enabling" the criminal stalking.
>
> --
> Juba
> www.masterjuba.com
>
> Read the alt.support.chronic-pain Kook Faq
> http://www.masterjuba.com/kook.htm
>
>
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| LooseCannon 2005-12-19, 5:56 pm |
| ZombyWoof wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 10:27:17 -0800, "Juba" <juba@XmasterjubaX.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Gee absolutely no personal culpability at all huh?
Isnt that just amazing? Anything hes done gets forgiven by time,
anything he thinks cant be 100% easily attributed to him he thinks he
gets a free ride on too.
And its all just one big coinkydink that every time someone was having a
problem w/Kenny, their pics got used in nefarious ways online, their
family info was used & abused, and so on and so forth. This didnt just
happen w/one, but MANY ppl, all who have received the same kinda
treatment and all having just one thing in common, the Ken Padgett/Juba
connection.
He must think we are really stooopid. Hes wrong. Even to take
something to civil court, having proof beyond a reasonable doubt isnt
necessary...all that needs to be proven is 'more likely than not', which
has been accommplished (and then some!)
Po lil Kenny....he doesnt see that he IS gonna be held accountable, and
what hes done to others will be done to him. If he dragged others
families into the mess, his family will be dragged in too.
The minute you
> integrated my real name into your dubious business ventures you gave
> me free license to say whatever I want about said ventures. You
> brought me into your business life, not the other way around.
> Intermingling your professional, personal, and pissant little forum
> flamefest all into one big package was your choice, your doing not
> anyone else at alls. Pardon me I need to go see if the
> Juba_Is_A_Pill_Peddler.com is an available domain. Wouldn't want to
> integrate that into my personal business web servers. It might have
> unintended consequences. Think Kenny, think. Or has your brain been
> addled by to much ganja?
I am sure its contributed, but I think he really needs his brain altered
by some anti psychotic meds.
| |
| Paul T. Holland 2005-12-19, 5:56 pm |
| hi rosie
i can only answer for myself -
kenny has made a career of using socks,
and anonymity,
to try to have his way -
included in that is the simple fact that his sites were spammed in newsgroups,
and that he has repeatedly used strife and discord as a marketing device for his
pill peddling bidnez.
here and elsewhere, he freely admits to this.
so many nyms, so many newsgroups, so many socks -
all kenny aka juba has to do is stop ----- yet every time - without exception
that he has 'claimed' to have changed, it is only superficial.
without exception he has continued to try to force, 'shame', and coerce, folk
into his way of postng...that is not acceptable.
he has repeatedly made false statements about how his affiliations operate - his
former affiliation, he said that he would never assoc. with anyone who didn't
require medical records and a dr order - yet on the site itself and in forums
the owner stated bluntly that they would ship out narco's without the records.
he claimed to be anti-spam - yet his sites were spammed on newsgroups by
sockpuppets he is associated with, and the pill mill he affiliated with was
shut down for spam...
one of his socks is shown to have referred narco seekers to a non-usa site that
didn't need a dr. he admitted that he had used it himself.
illegal site referral, shut down spam site, creating and continuing strife to up
his site rankings, sockpuppets,
oh - yes, kenny's bidnez is germane...it is what he 'is'...
be well
paul
Hawki63@sbcglobal.net wrote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
> I have one question in this regard...and for the group as a whole
>
> WHY do you all concern yourself with another's business ventures..whether
> they are legal or not...
>
> should be of NO concern to anyone else...
>
> "Rosemarie Shiver" <post147@strato.net> wrote in message
> news:40o8r9F1a7aknU1@individual.net...
| |
| LooseCannon 2005-12-19, 5:56 pm |
| Juba wrote:
> "ZombyWoof" <Zomby-Woofdogs@Cox.net> wrote in message
> news:4m1eq1plnr93f31hab45hj5tpduunah88g@4ax.com
>
>
>
> That's right. None at all.
>
>
>
>
> More ridiculous lying from you.
>
> Your real name has not been connected to my business ventures. It's on
> the Kook faq because you started using my real name here and it's not
> coming off now until you stop "enabling" the criminal stalking.
>
Uh-oh, ZW...Kenny wants you to DO AS HE SEZ--right now! LOL Are ya
scared? LOL
Hey, Kenny....what about ME? Ya got no name to put in yer faq'ed up faq
for me! Ya gotta use a nym that no one but my SO knows is even mine!
Whatcha gonna threaten ME with? I guess ya just dont see that these
kindsa threats just prove what everyones saying aboutcha anyways. LOL
Right now, yer putting "LC" or any permutation thereof in that silly faq
and insulting him is about as effective as, well, someone trying to get
revenge on some anonymous creep when all they know about him is his nym,
Master Juba!
But when that anonymity comes to an end....THEN ya got gold. YOUR
anonymity is over. Mine never will be. Why? Cuz Im neither dumb nor
greedy and wont be posting my nym and the story Ive posted about why I
use it on a loved ones resume page, or on any business pages I may be
associated with!
And you vastly overrate ZWs part in any of this. Whats happening to you
will not be altered one bit whether ZW supports it or not. Im sure its
fun for you to blame him, but ya know it aint why yer under the
microscope. Yer just sooooo despret for SOMEONE to feel yer wrath, and
ZW is one of the few whose info ya really know and wanna try and hurt em
with. But ya see, since ya dragged his family into this and shit on him
even when he tried to defend you against what was happening to you
(which aint the same as defending you), youve burned one too many
bridges and are now down to one mushminded cheerleader. It appears that
yer asking Sueey to drag in a non posters family member & lie about em
shook Sueey up and she hasnt been out here cheering ya on ever since. I
guess that Svengali hold ya thought ya had on her didnt exactly work out
as planned. Mariloonie still ignores the obvious and defends ya, but
given that Ive seen yer supporters drop off one by one, Mariloonie will
prolly be next, unless shes so happy to get the drugs from yer illegal
OP that she'll always say anything, defend you against anything. I
guess in that case, she may ALWAYS defend you, no matter how obvious of
an abusive arse ya are.
| |
| Paul T. Holland 2005-12-19, 5:56 pm |
| lololololololol a parsing we will go, a parsing we will go:
Juba wrote:
> <Hawki63@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:_9Cpf.44031$Zv5.22852@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net
>
> They blame me for all sorts of things that I had nothing to do with.
now, now, kenny - i don't blame you for anything - i just hold you
responsible for your actions...lololol
> As
> you know, there have been many "free agents" floating in and out of here
> over the past few years who have done all sorts of evil deeds to both
> sides.
i particularly liked that good old 'avenger' whose actions you repeatedly
gave your blessing to...such a peach!
>
> They've decided to blame me for every bad thing that ever happened to
> them.
patently false - but i know how much you 'need' to try and make it appear
so...lololol
> You'll see them state a lot of things as if they were fact when
> nothing could be further from the truth.
>
you haven't rebutted a single issue i've raised newt! so, tell us:
why did you out roycifer? and then attack his wife?
which of the nyms and socks i've posted are you claiming 'aren't' you?
the socks that spammed your site - who operated them?
>
> They latched on to the advertising on my web sites because it was
> something they could easily lie about.
hmmmmm, let's review: 'cool' doctor 'loves' to write scripts...where's the
lie?
you are an affiliate sales rep, not a passive carrier of an ad...where's the
lie?
> Their demagoging and witch
> hunting on this one issue would put the red-baiter Joe McCarthy to
> shame.
>
ad homonym bait and switch - answer the questions posited, or is it too
embarrassing?
>
> The Kook Faq was the final straw for them.
speaking only for myself - i find it way too funny.
you always stated that those who write a kook faq are deficiant...snork!
and let me remind you of something i wrote day one of your outing:
>that you would feel that having your true self known is 'the most
despicable tactic(s) ever
>employed' is of course understandable - it really 'is' so much harder to
employ 'your' tactics
>out in the open - which is of course the whole point and always has been.
> They have been repeating my
> real name and their lies about me thousands of times because they know
> it's archived and available on several web sites forever.
correction - repeating 'facts' about you...lololololololololol
> They
> apparently thought I was going to take that lying down, but they were
> very wrong about that
>
told you at the time you were wrong about that - i am content that you be
well known for who and what you are, but what the heck, why stop your spin
now?
>
> Of course they don't want any negative information about them available
> on the web even though it's little more than their own despicable words
> and deeds.
kenny, kenny, kenny - i have told you and told you: THANKS!!!! your
re-posting of my earlier writing is wonderful as an example of how even
handed and responsible i am...lololololol it clearly shows that i haven't
ever bothered a newbie or naif - only scammers, spammers, and wannabe trolls
like yourself. so jpost away youngster - such a hoot!
> And so they are in a blind rage over the Kook Faq.
blind from tears of laughter you mean! so delicious!
> They are
> totally out of control
out of your control you mean?
> and they are doing all of the things they used to
> condemn and so much more, including RL attacks on my wife,
no rl, unless you mean posting that she is your partner in bidnez...
> her company -
oh yes - the one that bought your stories - which she is in charge
of...lololololol
>
> and my web business.
your pill peddling, scam operation - yupper!
>
> You may have settled your issue with Rosie but you know how she is with
> the RL threats and attacks. The rest of them are just as bad now.
>
>
gosh kenny - it is such a shame that you no longer have that vaunted
anonymity to hide your actions behind...lololololololol
but do have a nice scam spam, pill pddeling, sockboi day!
paul
| |
| ZombyWoof 2005-12-19, 5:56 pm |
| On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 11:39:58 -0800, "Juba" <juba@XmasterjubaX.com>
wrote:
>"ZombyWoof" <Zomby-Woofdogs@Cox.net> wrote in message
>news:4m1eq1plnr93f31hab45hj5tpduunah88g@4ax.com
>
>That's right. None at all.
>
>
>More ridiculous lying from you.
>
>Your real name has not been connected to my business ventures. It's on
>the Kook faq because you started using my real name here and it's not
>coming off now until you stop "enabling" the criminal stalking.
>
And from there I can get to any and all of your business ventures.
You really aren't very bright are you?
--
Zombywoof
Si vis Pacem, Para bellum
| |
| ZombyWoof 2005-12-19, 5:56 pm |
| On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 11:46:58 -0800, LooseCannon
<lambchop.LC@gmail.com> wrote:
>ZombyWoof wrote:
>
>
>Isnt that just amazing? Anything hes done gets forgiven by time,
>anything he thinks cant be 100% easily attributed to him he thinks he
>gets a free ride on too.
>
>And its all just one big coinkydink that every time someone was having a
>problem w/Kenny, their pics got used in nefarious ways online, their
>family info was used & abused, and so on and so forth. This didnt just
>happen w/one, but MANY ppl, all who have received the same kinda
>treatment and all having just one thing in common, the Ken Padgett/Juba
>connection.
>
>He must think we are really stooopid. Hes wrong. Even to take
>something to civil court, having proof beyond a reasonable doubt isnt
>necessary...all that needs to be proven is 'more likely than not', which
>has been accommplished (and then some!)
>
>Po lil Kenny....he doesnt see that he IS gonna be held accountable, and
>what hes done to others will be done to him. If he dragged others
>families into the mess, his family will be dragged in too.
>
> The minute you
>
>I am sure its contributed, but I think he really needs his brain altered
>by some anti psychotic meds.
>
Let me go check I know of a website that maybe running a special on
them this month. I'm sure I can get him a discount.
--
Zombywoof
Si vis Pacem, Para bellum
| |
| Paul T. Holland 2005-12-19, 5:56 pm |
| still confused about cause and effect i see - you really are a delight
youngster! lololol
Juba wrote:
| |
| Chris Morton 2005-12-19, 5:56 pm |
| In article <do6u1u$sdf$0@pita.alt.net>, Juba says...
>They blame me for all sorts of things that I had nothing to do with. As
Damn, Pill Boy!
You're some kind of pussy, aren't you?
--
--
Gun control, the theory that 110lb. women should have to fistfight with 210lb.
rapists.
| |
| LooseCannon 2005-12-19, 5:56 pm |
| Chris Morton wrote:
> In article <do6u1u$sdf$0@pita.alt.net>, Juba says...
>
>
>
>
>
> Damn, Pill Boy!
>
> You're some kind of pussy, aren't you?
>
>
He sho' is! LOL And everytime he whines like that, I LMAO! Im sure his
many victims take great pleasure in seeing him sooooo distressed.
Gawd, youd think he'd have some dignity! LOL (but Im glad he
dont....this has been so entertaining)
| |
| SandyG 2005-12-20, 12:56 am |
| Juba wrote:
> "jumbo buddha" <jumbobud@buddang.net> wrote in message
> news:Agspf.14118$eo.1444@read1.cgocable.net
>
> Nice sentiment, but the people you are appealing to are mentally ill.
> They won't ever listen to reason or appeals to decency.
Juba, I really think this kind of statement does people with mental
illnesses a disservice. Just because someone has a mental illness does not
mean that they cannot be a decent, kind, loving, caring human being.
--
-Sandy
"It's not the I. It's not the YOU. It is the WE that gets US through."
| |
| Paul T. Holland 2005-12-20, 12:56 am |
| well put and thank you
SandyG wrote:
> Juba wrote:
>
> Juba, I really think this kind of statement does people with mental
> illnesses a disservice. Just because someone has a mental illness does not
> mean that they cannot be a decent, kind, loving, caring human being.
>
> --
> -Sandy
>
> "It's not the I. It's not the YOU. It is the WE that gets US through."
| |
| Codeee01@hotmail.com 2005-12-20, 12:56 am |
|
[vbcol=seagreen]
Excellent question Hawki.
We can see where it has taken the group as a whole, and many
individuals and innocent people along the way.
Perhaps this group can start anew this year with more minding of
our OWN business, and perhaps helping one another more.
We ARE by definition, people who are ill and vulnerable. This should
be a haven.
I know...it's a dream...but a GOOD one. ;)
codeee
| |
| Codeee01@hotmail.com 2005-12-20, 12:56 am |
| On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 14:43:04 -0500, "Rosemarie Shiver"
<post147@strato.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>Let's see if the IRS agrees, Kenny.
>
>Real CP'er Hugs from Rosie
Yah....."real CP'ers" concern themselves with trying to make life
miserable for others.
Time to change your sig line Squirrely.
| |
| Codeee01@hotmail.com 2005-12-20, 12:56 am |
| On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 14:13:33 -0500, "Rosemarie Shiver"
<post147@strato.net> wrote:
Do you have absolutely NOTHING else going on in your life?
> Because diversion of opiates is indeed criminal and makes getting pain
>relief that much tuffer for true chronic pain patients.
>
> Because if you've heard the stories of Codeee and Legend getting caught
>having pills they should not have had, you'd not want that to happen to
>anyone else...as they both shouldn't, as well.
>
> Because being a blackmarket pill peddler is a vile thing to do. Doing it
>here to take advantage of people in pain is even more vile. CNN just today
>says that teenage smoking is way down but teenagers getting hooked on
>prescription pain meds. is on the rise. Look at it yerself at www.CNN.com
>So I'm more useful here for young people than at the two stop smoking NG's
>I'm at. Getting rid of Juba is more beneficial to society than trying to get
>kids to not smoke...less of 'em smokin' and more getting into blackmarket
>pain pills. As a medical professional the ethics of yer profession demand
>that you be against both smoking and illegal opiate purchasing. So please
>follow along here: Juba rots people's bodies ( esp. teens) as he empties
>the wallets of all who fall for his websites, ok?
>
> That should be enuff reasons. But if you want more I can go on.....
>
>Other Rosie Hugs from Rosie
| |
| Zombywoof 2005-12-20, 10:54 am |
| On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 22:30:29 -0800, Codeee01@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
>
>Excellent question Hawki.
>
>We can see where it has taken the group as a whole, and many
>individuals and innocent people along the way.
>
>Perhaps this group can start anew this year with more minding of
>our OWN business, and perhaps helping one another more.
>
>We ARE by definition, people who are ill and vulnerable. This should
>be a haven.
>
>I know...it's a dream...but a GOOD one. ;)
>
Well I didn't check to see if it is a full-moon, but I am going to
agree with you on this. However, "IF" there is one (or more) in our
midst whose goal is to separate desperate people from limited
resources that does not a safe haven make.
By definition we maybe be ill, but not all are vulnerable. However,
as I said above if they are vulnerable they need to be aware of those
who could use said vulnerability via lying, obfuscation, misdirection
and less then ethical business practices.
--
Zombywoof
Si vis Pacem, Para bellum
| |
|
| "SandyG" <Mollypup1@emessen.com> wrote in message
news:do7v020tp@news2.newsguy.com
> Juba wrote:
>
> Juba, I really think this kind of statement does people with mental
> illnesses a disservice. Just because someone has a mental illness
> does not mean that they cannot be a decent, kind, loving, caring
> human being.
Depends on how you read it I suppose. I certainly didn't intend it as a
blanket statement about all mentally ill people and I don't think it
reads that way. I'm sorry if you took it that way.
--
Juba
www.masterjuba.com
Read the alt.support.chronic-pain Kook Faq
http://www.masterjuba.com/kook.htm
| |
|
|
"ZombyWoof" <Zomby-Woofdogs@Cox.net> wrote in message
news:r91eq1h5psrcssinnp5qqf535gg6shcnri@4ax.com...
> On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 17:33:46 GMT, <Hawki63@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> Well I'll address your question from my perspective. It wasn't of a
> concern of mine until other issues made it a concern of mine. Even
> though I personally feel that diversion via gray-market sales is one
> of the things that makes your professional life harder and mine as a
> patient a little rougher as well I was happy allowing it to be what it
> was presented as being.
>
> However, when a certain person decided that it was OK to use my real
> name on a website that is directly connected with said dubious
> gray-market business venture I decided I had been given free license
> by said person to discuss anything and everything on said website and
> the pages contained within.
>
> Does that make any sense to you?
yes,,,,,of course it does ZW...and I can respect your anger in THAT
regard...
HOWEVER...and this is a big however...whether or not I or YOU or Juba or
whomever....believes in or participates in OP "pill mills" is truly not the
issue....
I have done some extensive research into these "sites"...and while I may
believe that inherently ALL folks should obtain their meds from the local
brick nd mortar pharmacy...we ALL know that this does not happen...
one person alone...regardless of HOW many sites they may be linked
to...truly don't impact much this "business"....I have read there literally
thousands...each day some are closed down..next day another pops up...
do I think this is ideal?? no...of course not...do I think this is
illegal...it is not up to me to define the law..
it is also NOT up to me..or anyone here...to worry about this ...unless the
IRS the DEA etc etc are expected at YOUR door...
it IS unrealistic to believe that the existence of OP will truly do much in
the realm of "legitimate" pain management...it has been MY experience...that
more likely folks visit and procure from such sites BECAUSE their pain is
not adequately managed in the REAL world...
just my h.o.
>
>
>
> --
> Zombywoof
>
> Si vis Pacem, Para bellum
| |
|
| <Hawki63@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:mKXpf.35325$dO2.9944@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net
> "ZombyWoof" <Zomby-Woofdogs@Cox.net> wrote in message
> news:r91eq1h5psrcssinnp5qqf535gg6shcnri@4ax.com...
>
>
> yes,,,,,of course it does ZW...and I can respect your anger in THAT
> regard...
Well, you shouldn't because he's lying. Read this:
"ZombyWoof" <Zomby-Woofdogs@Cox.net> wrote in message
news:v30eq1hhusvnsmdsrq440ih0rdebg5t8rl@4ax.com
> On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 09:13:42 -0800, "Juba" <juba@XmasterjubaX.com>
> wrote:
> Yup you are right when it first came up I had absolutely no issue,
He changed his mind only after his name was put on the Kook faq.
So he's a hypocrite. What else is new?
>
> HOWEVER...and this is a big however...whether or not I or YOU or Juba
> or whomever....believes in or participates in OP "pill mills" is
> truly not the issue....
It is for ZW and his stalker-pals. This is not about OPs. It's about
attacking someone with smear tactics. That's been their preferred method
for many years.
>
> I have done some extensive research into these "sites"...and while I
> may believe that inherently ALL folks should obtain their meds from
> the local brick nd mortar pharmacy...we ALL know that this does not
> happen...
> one person alone...regardless of HOW many sites they may be linked
> to...truly don't impact much this "business"....I have read there
> literally thousands...each day some are closed down..next day another
> pops up...
> do I think this is ideal?? no...of course not...do I think this is
> illegal...it is not up to me to define the law..
>
> it is also NOT up to me..or anyone here...to worry about this
> ...unless the IRS the DEA etc etc are expected at YOUR door...
>
> it IS unrealistic to believe that the existence of OP will truly do
> much in the realm of "legitimate" pain management...it has been MY
> experience...that more likely folks visit and procure from such sites
> BECAUSE their pain is not adequately managed in the REAL world...
Exactly. Some drug abusers are using OPs, but they wouldn't be so
successful if it weren't for the millions of people in pain who have
nowhere else to turn.
>
> just my h.o.
>
>
Thank you for once again being the voice of reason.
--
Juba
www.masterjuba.com
Read the alt.support.chronic-pain Kook Faq
http://www.masterjuba.com/kook.htm
| |
| Paul T. Holland 2005-12-20, 5:54 pm |
| that's right kenny - you didn't mean it - you just wanted to try to demean
another person(s) by appending a label that you hoped would hurt, or
stigmatize them -
all that happened is a bystander called you on it...
but do have a nice spamboi, scammer day youngster
apul
Juba wrote:
> "SandyG" <Mollypup1@emessen.com> wrote in message
> news:do7v020tp@news2.newsguy.com
>
> Depends on how you read it I suppose. I certainly didn't intend it as a
> blanket statement about all mentally ill people and I don't think it
> reads that way. I'm sorry if you took it that way.
>
> --
> Juba
> www.masterjuba.com
>
> Read the alt.support.chronic-pain Kook Faq
> http://www.masterjuba.com/kook.htm
| |
| Legend_of_53 2005-12-21, 12:57 am |
| by "Rosemarie Shiver" <post147@strato.net> Dec 19, 2005 at 02:13 PM
Because diversion of opiates is indeed criminal and makes getting pain
relief that much tuffer for true chronic pain patients.
Because if you've heard the stories of Codeee and Legend getting
caught
having pills they should not have had, you'd not want that to happen to
anyone else...as they both shouldn't, as well.
Because being a blackmarket pill peddler is a vile thing to do. Doing
it
here to take advantage of people in pain is even more vile. CNN just
today
says that teenage smoking is way down but teenagers getting hooked on
prescription pain meds. is on the rise. Look at it yerself at www.CNN.com
So I'm more useful here for young people than at the two stop smoking
NG's
I'm at. Getting rid of Juba is more beneficial to society than trying to
get
kids to not smoke...less of 'em smokin' and more getting into blackmarket
pain pills. As a medical professional the ethics of yer profession demand
that you be against both smoking and illegal opiate purchasing. So please
follow along here: Juba rots people's bodies ( esp. teens) as he empties
the wallets of all who fall for his websites, ok?
That should be enuff reasons. But if you want more I can go on.....
Other Rosie Hugs from Rosie
__________________________________________________
Wait a minute-I never got "caught" here-I explained my situation in my
VERY FIRST POST to this group. No one had trouble with it then, except ZW
and a few of hiss troll-boys, when currying his favor. You can at least
get a dictionary and learn to spell-maybe people would take you seriously,
then-your behavior last year was viewed, by most people, as a symptom of
mental illness. Now, some of the guys are using you as a toy-and you're
eating it up.
And if you're saying I'm not a real Chronic pain patient, I'd love to
invite you to wallk around in my skin for a while. Plus, I have the flu.
Due to a fever-induced mistake I made last night, I wasn;t going to post.
But I won't tolerate a LIAR-and that's YOU, Rosie dear.
-Legend
| |
| Codeee01@hotmail.com 2005-12-21, 10:58 am |
| On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 05:08:30 -0500, Zombywoof
<Zomby-Woof_dogs_@cox.net> wrote:
>On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 22:30:29 -0800, Codeee01@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>Well I didn't check to see if it is a full-moon, but I am going to
>agree with you on this. However, "IF" there is one (or more) in our
>midst whose goal is to separate desperate people from limited
>resources that does not a safe haven make.
>
>By definition we maybe be ill, but not all are vulnerable. However,
>as I said above if they are vulnerable they need to be aware of those
>who could use said vulnerability via lying, obfuscation, misdirection
>and less then ethical business practices.
There IS a limit. Months have been spent on this alleged "warning" of
the innocent lambs.
One might well start to think there are more nefarious reasons for
these repeated warnings and outright slander.
| |
| Codeee01@hotmail.com 2005-12-21, 10:58 am |
| On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 23:27:45 -0500, "Legend_of_53"
<the_warrior@surfy.net> wrote:
>by "Rosemarie Shiver" <post147@strato.net> Dec 19, 2005 at 02:13 PM
>
>
>Because diversion of opiates is indeed criminal and makes getting pain
>relief that much tuffer for true chronic pain patients.
>
> Because if you've heard the stories of Codeee and Legend getting
>caught
>having pills they should not have had, you'd not want that to happen to
>anyone else...as they both shouldn't, as well.
>
> Because being a blackmarket pill peddler is a vile thing to do. Doing
>it
>here to take advantage of people in pain is even more vile. CNN just
>today
>says that teenage smoking is way down but teenagers getting hooked on
>prescription pain meds. is on the rise. Look at it yerself at www.CNN.com
>So I'm more useful here for young people than at the two stop smoking
>NG's
>I'm at. Getting rid of Juba is more beneficial to society than trying to
>get
>kids to not smoke...less of 'em smokin' and more getting into blackmarket
>pain pills. As a medical professional the ethics of yer profession demand
>that you be against both smoking and illegal opiate purchasing. So please
>follow along here: Juba rots people's bodies ( esp. teens) as he empties
>the wallets of all who fall for his websites, ok?
>
> That should be enuff reasons. But if you want more I can go on.....
>
>Other Rosie Hugs from Rosie
>
>__________________________________________________
>Wait a minute-I never got "caught" here-I explained my situation in my
>VERY FIRST POST to this group. No one had trouble with it then, except ZW
>and a few of hiss troll-boys, when currying his favor. You can at least
>get a dictionary and learn to spell-maybe people would take you seriously,
>then-your behavior last year was viewed, by most people, as a symptom of
>mental illness. Now, some of the guys are using you as a toy-and you're
>eating it up.
>
>And if you're saying I'm not a real Chronic pain patient, I'd love to
>invite you to wallk around in my skin for a while. Plus, I have the flu.
>
>Due to a fever-induced mistake I made last night, I wasn;t going to post.
>But I won't tolerate a LIAR-and that's YOU, Rosie dear.
>
>
>-Legend
Yes, she IS a soothing balm to those who suffer. One needn't even be
here to have ones' name brought up and stuffed through the grinder
with her own dash of insane reality twists.
Is it any wonder we have come such a little way in pain advocacy.
You have done more in the past week to aid our cause than many do
in a lifetime Legend. Thanks for that, and congrats for being one of
the people who are unafraid to speak out FOR us, rather than trying
to drag other people through the mud.
codeee
>
>
>
| |
| Zombywoof 2005-12-21, 10:59 am |
| On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 18:06:10 GMT, <Hawki63@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>"ZombyWoof" <Zomby-Woofdogs@Cox.net> wrote in message
>news:r91eq1h5psrcssinnp5qqf535gg6shcnri@4ax.com...
>
>
>yes,,,,,of course it does ZW...and I can respect your anger in THAT
>regard...
>
>HOWEVER...and this is a big however...whether or not I or YOU or Juba or
>whomever....believes in or participates in OP "pill mills" is truly not the
>issue....
>
>I have done some extensive research into these "sites"...and while I may
>believe that inherently ALL folks should obtain their meds from the local
>brick nd mortar pharmacy...we ALL know that this does not happen...
>
>one person alone...regardless of HOW many sites they may be linked
>to...truly don't impact much this "business"....I have read there literally
>thousands...each day some are closed down..next day another pops up...
>
>do I think this is ideal?? no...of course not...do I think this is
>illegal...it is not up to me to define the law..
>
>it is also NOT up to me..or anyone here...to worry about this ...unless the
>IRS the DEA etc etc are expected at YOUR door...
>
>it IS unrealistic to believe that the existence of OP will truly do much in
>the realm of "legitimate" pain management...it has been MY experience...that
>more likely folks visit and procure from such sites BECAUSE their pain is
>not adequately managed in the REAL world...
>
>just my h.o.
>
Well then from that is a Catch-22 perspective. The OP's exist because
people aren't getting adequate treatment, and people don't get
adequate treatment because of the Diversion that happens via OP's.
Except I don't believe it. The OP's are just a prettied up cyber
version of the guy on the corner who was refereed to in song as the
"Pusherman". According to a local newspaper article a new study show
that over 50% of 12th graders have ordered from & used the Opiate
based medications found on OP's.
--
Zombywoof
Si vis Pacem, Para bellum
| |
|
|
"Zombywoof" <Zomby-Woof_dogs_@cox.net> wrote in message
news:h8iiq1lqb8e1h6a492avta5nqreo5lp50g@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 18:06:10 GMT, <Hawki63@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> Well then from that is a Catch-22 perspective. The OP's exist because
> people aren't getting adequate treatment, and people don't get
> adequate treatment because of the Diversion that happens via OP's.
>
> Except I don't believe it. The OP's are just a prettied up cyber
> version of the guy on the corner who was refereed to in song as the
> "Pusherman". According to a local newspaper article a new study show
> that over 50% of 12th graders have ordered from & used the Opiate
> based medications found on OP's.
this is true..and sad
however...said 12 graders are ALSO adept at stealing legitimate scripts from
other folks..ie parents and such...
my question has always been....do the "parents" not notice the credit card
bills with the high charges to XYZ "pharmacy?"
this to me is as much of a problem as the existence of OP in the first
place...
can you imagine attempting THAT in YOUR (or MY ) childhood??
did YOUR folks give you access to credit cards,,,,not to mention computer
access to find such sites (well...there were NO computers..but that is a
different story)
this "generation" of young folks is without a doubt the most
spoiled,,worldly individuals known in history...
buying from pill mills is only a drop in the bucket of the problems they
have now..and will have in the future...no one has bothered to teach them
work ethics (you want that new bike...mow lawns..shovel snow ..babysit etc
etc)
I live (as many of us do) in a very affluent area..where the teens drive
nicer cars than we do...and have NO clue as to fiscal responsibility...
will be VERYYYY interesting how they all manage in 20-30 years
sorry..rant off..
> --
> Zombywoof
>
> Si vis Pacem, Para bellum
| |
| Paul T. Holland 2005-12-21, 12:54 pm |
| the 'limit' is very easy to ascertain - all kenny has to do is stop
so you see, there is nothing nefarious at all - just holding him to the same
rules he has always employed...what could be more fair that that?
Codeee01@hotmail.com wrote:
> On Tue, 20 Dec 2005 05:08:30 -0500, Zombywoof
> <Zomby-Woof_dogs_@cox.net> wrote:
>
>
> There IS a limit. Months have been spent on this alleged "warning" of
> the innocent lambs.
>
> One might well start to think there are more nefarious reasons for
> these repeated warnings and outright slander.
| |
| Paul T. Holland 2005-12-21, 12:54 pm |
| hey rosie
you know that i mostly agree with you on things: but i do want to point out a
place where we differ greatly:
Hawki63@sbcglobal.net wrote:
>
>
> it is also NOT up to me..or anyone here...to worry about this ...unless the
> IRS the DEA etc etc are expected at YOUR door...
here i have to disagree - 'anyone' who sets up a site, and/or affiliates
themselves with an entity that condones publicity advertising like 'cool doctor'
'loves to write prescriptions' and the like is 'not' one of the good guys. this
appeal to baser instincts is specifically geared to those so far from the norm
of medical practice that i cannot believe anyone reading it would think 'oh'
there is a legitimate operation'
>
> it IS unrealistic to believe that the existence of OP will truly do much in
> the realm of "legitimate" pain management...it has been MY experience...that
> more likely folks visit and procure from such sites BECAUSE their pain is
> not adequately managed in the REAL world...
it is a very necessary goal to find ways to influence better pain management.
i simply do not believe that that is what kenny is doing with his business. and
that is without factoring in that he has also promoted the personal use of
non-usa illegal op's separate form his business.
his sites have been spammed into usenet, he admits that the ruckus 'improves'
his site rankings and thus is happy with it, and calls folks liar for posting
truthful information...
not the actions of an honest person - imo
| |
|
| "Zombywoof" <Zomby-Woof_dogs_@cox.net> wrote in message
news:h8iiq1lqb8e1h6a492avta5nqreo5lp50g@4ax.com
> According to a local newspaper article a new study show
> that over 50% of 12th graders have ordered from & used the Opiate
> based medications found on OP's.
Well, if it's in the local newspaper it must be true. In fact it should
be taken as gospel.
Common sense ought to tell you that that 50% figure is ridiculous.
--
Juba
www.masterjuba.com
Read the alt.support.chronic-pain Kook Faq
http://www.masterjuba.com/kook.htm
| |
|
| "ZombyWoof" <Zomby-Woofdogs@Cox.net> wrote in message
news:r91eq1h5psrcssinnp5qqf535gg6shcnri@4ax.com
> However, when a certain person decided that it was OK to use my real
> name on a website that is directly connected with said dubious
> gray-market business venture
Wrong again.
There's no direct connection between the Kook Faq and any of my
commercial web sites. There is a connection, but only by following one
link to another in the same way that everything on the web is linked to
everything else; sort of a six degrees of separation thing.
This is also the pathetic excuse that you and your stalker-pals have
been using to justify attacking my wife and my publisher. However, if
one were inclined to do so, one could easily connect you and your family
with various nefarious activities by simply following one link to
another and then posting the results. I really doubt you'd think that
was justified.
> I decided I had been given free license
> by said person to discuss anything and everything on said website and
> the pages contained within.
You decided that long beforehand, and now you're trying to justify it by
whining about your real name being on the Kook Faq. Thing is you didn't
have a problem with posting your own name and address here yourself and
then acting like it was no big deal. You're just lucky that no one
quoted it. I gave you a break then, but you'll not get any other breaks
from me.
--
Juba
www.masterjuba.com
Read all about ZombyWoof in
the alt.support.chronic-pain Kook Faq
http://www.masterjuba.com/kook.htm#ZombyWoof
| |
|
| <Codeee01@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:g31iq15upkkvg99cabhrtac0s44lgo6uo4@4ax.com
> You have done more in the past week to aid our cause than many do
> in a lifetime Legend. Thanks for that, and congrats for being one of
> the people who are unafraid to speak out FOR us, rather than trying
> to drag other people through the mud.
>
>
> codeee
I agree. Your TV appearance did more to help chronic pain patients than
all of the things said in this newsgroup since day one combined. Don't
let any of the comments from the Kooks bother you Legend. It's less
important than the buzzing of a fruit fly.
--
Juba
www.masterjuba.com
Read the alt.support.chronic-pain Kook Faq
http://www.masterjuba.com/kook.htm
| |
| Zombywoof 2005-12-21, 5:55 pm |
| On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 18:17:44 GMT, <Hawki63@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
<snip>
>
>
>this is true..and sad
>
>however...said 12 graders are ALSO adept at stealing legitimate scripts from
>other folks..ie parents and such...
>
True enough. But a society can attempt to stop what it can.
>my question has always been....do the "parents" not notice the credit card
>bills with the high charges to XYZ "pharmacy?"
>
Unfortunately a lot of these places do discreet billing and the bill
doesn't come as XYZ Pharmacy, it comes as Juba Enterprises or
something.
>this to me is as much of a problem as the existence of OP in the first
>place...
>
Latch key kids.
>can you imagine attempting THAT in YOUR (or MY ) childhood??
>
Uh no, but I did steal the drug of our day, ciggies.
>did YOUR folks give you access to credit cards,,,,not to mention computer
>access to find such sites (well...there were NO computers..but that is a
>different story)
>
I don't think Credit Cards existed when I was a kid.
>this "generation" of young folks is without a doubt the most
>spoiled,,worldly individuals known in history...
>
Two sides of a coin. Good & bad.
>buying from pill mills is only a drop in the bucket of the problems they
>have now..and will have in the future...no one has bothered to teach them
>work ethics (you want that new bike...mow lawns..shovel snow ..babysit etc
>etc)
>
Well not all. I know quite a few parents (most Military or
Ex-Military) whose kids don't get anything they don't earn in some
manner. My girls got money based on school performance. Going to
school was based on a merit pay system and that was their "job".
>I live (as many of us do) in a very affluent area..where the teens drive
>nicer cars than we do...and have NO clue as to fiscal responsibility...
>
Of course, but there are also those who don't. I know several of my
daughters college friends who are doing it on their own.
>will be VERYYYY interesting how they all manage in 20-30 years
>
Or how we will manage with them being responsible for contributing to
our Social Security checks.
>sorry..rant off..
>
Rant on, Rant off, the ranter.
>
>
--
Zombywoof
Si vis Pacem, Para bellum
| |
| Paul T. Holland 2005-12-21, 5:55 pm |
| you might wish to think so, but looking at my own region, there have been
several 'very' discreet studies done, the kids answered pretty freely since
they knew that no identities were being logged - more than 80% replied that
they knew where, from whom, and how much it would cost, to obtain both
street drugs, and pharm. diverted drugs.
more than half 'had' tried, or were currently using at least once a month
if not more often.
now, i'm from iowa, and talking with the folks back home, they list the
avail. of diverted drugs in the top 3 issues they face as parents. the
simple fact is that they are available to anyone looking.
so, 'common sense' might be to take a longer, more detailed, and more
extensive look...
Juba wrote:
> "Zombywoof" <Zomby-Woof_dogs_@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:h8iiq1lqb8e1h6a492avta5nqreo5lp50g@4ax.com
>
> Well, if it's in the local newspaper it must be true. In fact it should
> be taken as gospel.
>
> Common sense ought to tell you that that 50% figure is ridiculous.
>
> --
> Juba
> www.masterjuba.com
>
> Read the alt.support.chronic-pain Kook Faq
> http://www.masterjuba.com/kook.htm
| |
| Paul T. Holland 2005-12-21, 5:55 pm |
| gosh kenny -
aren't you forgetting that she is your 'partner'...that's what the posting
said, and also what her resume page says...
so - as your partner, why should she be excluded? she's also who commissions
your wordsmithing it seems, so what the heck - a complete circle...
the only problem you are having is wanting to have it both ways - and that
folks don't accept it is the result...
you never cease to amuse youngster!
but do have a nice spamboi day!
paul
Juba wrote:
> "ZombyWoof" <Zomby-Woofdogs@Cox.net> wrote in message
> news:r91eq1h5psrcssinnp5qqf535gg6shcnri@4ax.com
>
> Wrong again.
>
> There's no direct connection between the Kook Faq and any of my
> commercial web sites. There is a connection, but only by following one
> link to another in the same way that everything on the web is linked to
> everything else; sort of a six degrees of separation thing.
>
> This is also the pathetic excuse that you and your stalker-pals have
> been using to justify attacking my wife and my publisher. However, if
> one were inclined to do so, one could easily connect you and your family
> with various nefarious activities by simply following one link to
> another and then posting the results. I really doubt you'd think that
> was justified.
>
>
> You decided that long beforehand, and now you're trying to justify it by
> whining about your real name being on the Kook Faq. Thing is you didn't
> have a problem with posting your own name and address here yourself and
> then acting like it was no big deal. You're just lucky that no one
> quoted it. I gave you a break then, but you'll not get any other breaks
> from me.
>
> --
> Juba
> www.masterjuba.com
>
> Read all about ZombyWoof in
> the alt.support.chronic-pain Kook Faq
> http://www.masterjuba.com/kook.htm#ZombyWoof
| |
|
|
"Zombywoof" <Zomby-Woof_dogs_@cox.net> wrote in message
news:m0bjq1ljm3ck00tnc95u37at300naq3pl6@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 18:17:44 GMT, <Hawki63@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> <snip>
>
> True enough. But a society can attempt to stop what it can.
>
> Unfortunately a lot of these places do discreet billing and the bill
> doesn't come as XYZ Pharmacy, it comes as Juba Enterprises or
> something.
even if...don't the parents notice the CHARGES????..with whatever name
>
> Latch key kids.
>
> Uh no, but I did steal the drug of our day, ciggies.
>
> I don't think Credit Cards existed when I was a kid.
now we ARE dating ourselves ZW
>
> Two sides of a coin. Good & bad.
>
> Well not all. I know quite a few parents (most Military or
> Ex-Military) whose kids don't get anything they don't earn in some
> manner. My girls got money based on school performance. Going to
> school was based on a merit pay system and that was their "job".
sorry I don't know ANY parents..family or friends that do the above..
>
> Of course, but there are also those who don't. I know several of my
> daughters college friends who are doing it on their own.
again...I don't know of ANY kids going to school on their own dime..not
one..
>
> Or how we will manage with them being responsible for contributing to
> our Social Security checks.
>
> Rant on, Rant off, the ranter.
>
> --
> Zombywoof
>
> Si vis Pacem, Para bellum
| |
| Zombywoof 2005-12-21, 5:55 pm |
| On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 10:53:03 -0800, "Juba" <juba@XmasterjubaX.com>
wrote:
>"ZombyWoof" <Zomby-Woofdogs@Cox.net> wrote in message
>news:r91eq1h5psrcssinnp5qqf535gg6shcnri@4ax.com
>
>Wrong again.
>
>There's no direct connection between the Kook Faq and any of my
>commercial web sites. There is a connection, but only by following one
>link to another in the same way that everything on the web is linked to
>everything else; sort of a six degrees of separation thing.
>
Read what you wrote and then realize that it isn't six degrees of
separation if it is all within the same logical place linked together.
>This is also the pathetic excuse that you and your stalker-pals have
>been using to justify attacking my wife and my publisher. However, if
>one were inclined to do so, one could easily connect you and your family
>with various nefarious activities by simply following one link to
>another and then posting the results. I really doubt you'd think that
>was justified.
>
Please be my guest in attempting to do so without using anything you
have personally put together. It can't be done with six or
six-hundred degrees of separation. As there is nothing on the web
about my wife. Unless of course it is something you have personally
done.
>
>You decided that long beforehand, and now you're trying to justify it by
>whining about your real name being on the Kook Faq. Thing is you didn't
>have a problem with posting your own name and address here yourself and
>then acting like it was no big deal. You're just lucky that no one
>quoted it. I gave you a break then, but you'll not get any other breaks
>from me.
>
Whether or not I had or had not decided on it beforehand is material.
The point of action is when I did do something about it. I can think
about calling you a fool for four days straight, but until I utter the
words or put finger to keyboard I haven't done so. You asked for my
name and address and I gave it to you. The post was indeed quoted.
Numerous times. Oh and the little reference to where I work in
another post didn't go unnoticed by me either. Thanks for the license
to step it up just one more notch. Every time you do something to me
it is my full intention to rise to your level or would that be sink?
Oh BTW -- no worries about me calling your employer since you don't
have one. At least not on a consistent basis anyhow.
--
Zombywoof
Si vis Pacem, Para bellum
| |
| Zombywoof 2005-12-21, 5:55 pm |
| On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 22:08:32 GMT, <Hawki63@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>"Zombywoof" <Zomby-Woof_dogs_@cox.net> wrote in message
>news:m0bjq1ljm3ck00tnc95u37at300naq3pl6@4ax.com...
>
>even if...don't the parents notice the CHARGES????..with whatever name
>
Some do, but some simply have accountants that pay the bills and never
ever review them as long as the kid hasn't exceeded their allowance
(if they even have one).
>
>
>
>now we ARE dating ourselves ZW
>
As long as we aren't dating, no one should get upset.
>
>
>
>sorry I don't know ANY parents..family or friends that do the above..
>
We move in different circles. I hate making any 100% general
statements as there are kids who don't get diddly as well as those who
get to much.
>
>
>again...I don't know of ANY kids going to school on their own dime..not
>one..
>
Really? You have any kids in college currently? If so talk to them.
There are tons of them out there relying on college Loans and some
pissant part-time menial job to make it through.[vbcol=seagreen]
>
--
Zombywoof
Si vis Pacem, Para bellum
| |
|
|
"Zombywoof" <Zomby-Woof_dogs_@cox.net> wrote in message
news:0tpjq1p58ur9b394tpc7ulcra8a5g00hu9@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 22:08:32 GMT, <Hawki63@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
> Some do, but some simply have accountants that pay the bills and never
> ever review them as long as the kid hasn't exceeded their allowance
> (if they even have one).
> As long as we aren't dating, no one should get upset.
ahhhwww...
> We move in different circles. I hate making any 100% general
> statements as there are kids who don't get diddly as well as those who
> get to much.
apparently we do....again...I don't know ANY kids who work, pay their own
expenses,,don't have cell phones,,etc etc
and no..am not bragging..because I don't think it is the right way to raise
responsible folks
> Really? You have any kids in college currently? If so talk to them.
> There are tons of them out there relying on college Loans and some
> pissant part-time menial job to make it through.
our kids are 36 and 39...they contributed not one dime towards their
education (11 years total,,including law school).....I remember once asking
the older one (these are stepkids) "how many do you know who graduated from
college with NO loans?"...he replied..."I don't know ANY "...they don't call
it the Univ of Spoiled Children for nothing (USC)...
my sister's kid is a junior now...she was applying at private East Coast
schools...$35,000 a year type...my sister was moaning where they would get
the ??? I asked "did you ever tell her state schools or she foots the
bill?" she hadn't...luckily she didn't get into the pricey Ivy Leagues and
is going to a state school...about $15, 000 a year...she does work
summers..but is not asked to or expected to contribute HER money to
education...she just returned from skiing in Canada...and she has twin
sisters who are 15...
she IS expected to foot grad school...I guess that is something...
I know..and you know...that expecting kids to "help" with college etc is not
a bad thing...hubby did it (and his Dad could have afforded it all)....I
went to a diploma nursing program...because it was essentially free...I
never got a dime from my folks..but being one of 8..I sorta figured the rest
had to be fed, clothed and housed...etc...luckily I married a man who
supported me well...and "allowed" me the luxury of being able to go back to
school...otherwise I would never have gotten my master's degree...
sorry to sound preachy...but this is a sore subject for me...no,,not because
I did it on my own...but because the families I know think it is the only
way to raise kids...
and BTW...most women I know also did not work..so not all the children of
affluence are latch key kids...
>
> --
> Zombywoof
>
> Si vis Pacem, Para bellum
| |
| Zombywoof 2005-12-22, 12:57 am |
| On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 01:43:46 GMT, <Hawki63@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
<snip>
>
>I know..and you know...that expecting kids to "help" with college etc is not
>a bad thing...hubby did it (and his Dad could have afforded it all)....I
>went to a diploma nursing program...because it was essentially free...I
>never got a dime from my folks..but being one of 8..I sorta figured the rest
>had to be fed, clothed and housed...etc...luckily I married a man who
>supported me well...and "allowed" me the luxury of being able to go back to
>school...otherwise I would never have gotten my master's degree...
>
I told both of my girls that I considered myself on the dime for
in-state tuition at a state school. They could go anywhere they
wanted, but the maximum I was going to contribute in-state state
school rates for both Tuition and Room & Board minus what they could
get in loans in their names. The damn Room & Board is the more
expensive part here in Virginia anyway. I also made both of my girls
take-out the maximum Student loans that are available under the
federal program. That means they'll graduate with a little shy of
about $20K each in outstanding student loans in their names. I felt
they needed to have financial buy-in for their own educations. Now I
may end up taking them over as graduation presents, but they don't
know that. Well the oldest might that it is, the youngest isn't doing
very well at all. Well actually a little worse then that, so who
knows what may lie in her future academically. It is breaking my
heart, but she is the one making the choices.
>
>sorry to sound preachy...but this is a sore subject for me...no,,not because
>I did it on my own...but because the families I know think it is the only
>way to raise kids...
>
Hey, I ended up funding my education via Indentured Servitude so no
need to preach to me. Not a recommended course of action, but I am
now ABD with very little out of my own pocket. For a while I was
actually getting a monthly check for going to school under the old
G.I. Bill program. Where there is a will there is a way. I just wish
I could find my way into a will other then my own. 
>and BTW...most women I know also did not work..so not all the children of
>affluence are latch key kids...
>
Now that is really suckee. My wife, often refereed to as "The Long
Suffering Mrs ZW" was a stay at home Moms until about Middle School.
Even then she left for work early. I was there when the kids left for
school and then she was home right about at the same time they were
with me dragging XXX home several hours later. Two jobs is a XXXXX,
but I learned that nasty habit from my Dad who was a workaholic. I
gave it up when I came home one weekend and realized my oldest had
developed secondary sex characteristics over night. The extra money
was nice, but being with one's family is even nicer.
>
A lot of my daughters friends ended up not going away to school
because of the cost of room & board. There are several local
Universities and of course the Community college system. I felt that
part of the college experience is full immersion living on campus is
the only way to go. It is a completely different experience then
living at home and going to class, although that is what maybe
happening to my youngest for at least the next two semesters. She did
do to well out from under the parental reins.
--
Zombywoof
Si vis Pacem, Para bellum
| |
|
| "Zombywoof" <Zomby-Woof_dogs_@cox.net> wrote in message
news:m0bjq1ljm3ck00tnc95u37at300naq3pl6@4ax.com
> On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 18:17:44 GMT, <Hawki63@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> <snip>
>
> Unfortunately a lot of these places do discreet billing and the bill
> doesn't come as XYZ Pharmacy,
How would you know?
--
Juba
www.masterjuba.com
Read the alt.support.chronic-pain Kook Faq
http://www.masterjuba.com/kook.htm
| |
|
| "Zombywoof" <Zomby-Woof_dogs_@cox.net> wrote in message
news:0sljq1hvroa8jb0ol3mfscrdtu9l00hsqj@4ax.com
> On Wed, 21 Dec 2005 10:53:03 -0800, "Juba" <juba@XmasterjubaX.com>
> wrote:
>
> Read what you wrote and then realize that it isn't six degrees of
> separation if it is all within the same logical place linked together.
Ah, "Mr IT professional" doesn't understand the difference between a
direct connection (which would be an ad on the same page that his name
appears) and having to go from one link to another and then to another
to find some commercial activity.
> Oh and the little reference to where I work in
> another post didn't go unnoticed by me either.
That's why it was put there.
> Thanks for the license
> to step it up just one more notch. Every time you do something to me
> it is my full intention to rise to your level or would that be sink?
As usual, you have it backwards. You and your stalker-pals have been
attacking my livelihood for quite a while now and you have blessed it,
so I certainly have every right to go after yours if I wanted to.
However, unlike you and your stalker-pals, I don't ever do real life
attacks and I don't ever attempt to justify anyone else doing it either.
Yeah, I let you know that I know where you work. Does that make you a
little uncomfortable? Good. Do you consider that a threat? Well, it's
not. That's just your guilty conscience talking.
But you should listen to your guilty conscience. You are much too old
and too sick to be pounding the pavement looking for a new job. And what
would happen to your family if you lost your income? Think about that
for a while, and then maybe you'll understand why you shouldn't have
ever talked about my business, or endorsed the attacks on it by others.
There are people watching who really dislike you and they may well have
decided, based on your own recent actions, that "anything goes" when it
comes to you.
It's not too late for you to pull back some. Don't cut off your nose to
spite your face. It could be very painful.
--
Juba
www.masterjuba.com
Read the alt.support.chronic-pain Kook Faq
http://www.masterjuba.com/kook.htm
| |
| Paul T. Holland 2005-12-22, 5:55 pm |
| you are right on the money about kids receiving so much without also being given
the attendant responsibility to shoulder some of the 'how to get there'. guess
i'm just an old foggy, but when i talk to others they just seem to take it for
granted that they should provide everything - yet it is not what 'they' got from
their folks...how do they expect their kids to take on the world if everything
is handed to them?
Hawki63@sbcglobal.net wrote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
> "Zombywoof" <Zomby-Woof_dogs_@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:0tpjq1p58ur9b394tpc7ulcra8a5g00hu9@4ax.com...
>
> ahhhwww...
>
>
> apparently we do....again...I don't know ANY kids who work, pay their own
> expenses,,don't have cell phones,,etc etc
>
> and no..am not bragging..because I don't think it is the right way to raise
> responsible folks
>
>
> our kids are 36 and 39...they contributed not one dime towards their
> education (11 years total,,including law school).....I remember once asking
> the older one (these are stepkids) "how many do you know who graduated from
> college with NO loans?"...he replied..."I don't know ANY "...they don't call
> it the Univ of Spoiled Children for nothing (USC)...
>
> my sister's kid is a junior now...she was applying at private East Coast
> schools...$35,000 a year type...my sister was moaning where they would get
> the ??? I asked "did you ever tell her state schools or she foots the
> bill?" she hadn't...luckily she didn't get into the pricey Ivy Leagues and
> is going to a state school...about $15, 000 a year...she does work
> summers..but is not asked to or expected to contribute HER money to
> education...she just returned from skiing in Canada...and she has twin
> sisters who are 15...
>
> she IS expected to foot grad school...I guess that is something...
>
> I know..and you know...that expecting kids to "help" with college etc is not
> a bad thing...hubby did it (and his Dad could have afforded it all)....I
> went to a diploma nursing program...because it was essentially free...I
> never got a dime from my folks..but being one of 8..I sorta figured the rest
> had to be fed, clothed and housed...etc...luckily I married a man who
> supported me well...and "allowed" me the luxury of being able to go back to
> school...otherwise I would never have gotten my master's degree...
>
> sorry to sound preachy...but this is a sore subject for me...no,,not because
> I did it on my own...but because the families I know think it is the only
> way to raise kids...
>
> and BTW...most women I know also did not work..so not all the children of
> affluence are latch key kids...
>
| |
| Legend_of_53 2005-12-22, 5:55 pm |
| Thanks...It's good to know you have SOME friends, at a time like this.
-Legend
__________________________________________________
<Codeee01@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:g31iq15upkkvg99cabhrtac0s44lgo6uo4@4ax.com
> You have done more in the past week to aid our cause than many do
> in a lifetime Legend. Thanks for that, and congrats for being one of
> the people who are unafraid to speak out FOR us, rather than trying
> to drag other people through the mud.
>
>
> codeee
I agree. Your TV appearance did more to help chronic pain patients than
all of the things said in this newsgroup since day one combined. Don't
let any of the comments from the Kooks bother you Legend. It's less
important than the buzzing of a fruit fly.
--
Juba
www.masterjuba.com
Read the alt.support.chronic-pain Kook Faq
http://www.masterjuba.com/kook.htm
__________________________________________________
| |
| Paul T. Holland 2005-12-22, 5:55 pm |
| bwahahah kenny there ya go again - true to form with threats and
innuendo...too funny kid -let's just parse for truth and facts, shall we?
Juba wrote:
> "Zombywoof" <Zomby-Woof_dogs_@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:0sljq1hvroa8jb0ol3mfscrdtu9l00hsqj@4ax.com
>
> Ah, "Mr IT professional" doesn't understand the difference between a
> direct connection (which would be an ad on the same page that his name
> appears) and having to go from one link to another and then to another
> to find some commercial activity.
you - who only recently had to be told to close back doors and open links
are going to educate another? that is rich...
>
>
>
> That's why it was put there.
your subtlety is underwhealming...lolol
>
>
>
> As usual, you have it backwards. You and your stalker-pals have been
> attacking my livelihood for quite a while now and you have blessed it,
ah yes! you pill bidnez...already proven to be affiliated with spammers and
scammers, you complain because some here don't accept it?
but, since nothing you say can be believed, why should this? because you
say so?
on the other hand, you have been quite active in indexing you pages, and
other stratagems, so who is to say which is responsible?
what is certain is that you have already admitted that you welcome
controversy because it might help your pill peddling business...what a sport
you are !
proving that you care nothing for the group - but that's right - you said so
years ago when you first showed up lololololol
>
> so I certainly have every right to go after yours if I wanted to.
were you to really do so, you would have the most interesting of
experiances...lolololololol newt
>
> However, unlike you and your stalker-pals, I don't ever do real life
> attacks and I don't ever attempt to justify anyone else doing it either.
you are having another senior moment youngster -
you - in this group -explicitly stated that you were going to email anyone
that i exposed as a spammer, scammer, or fraud - that you would send them
any and all personal information that you had...so that they could do with
it as they wish...you continued with the idea that not content to do so
here, you would have you associates signal you whenever i engaged someone in
another group and you would email them also...
so bubba - how is that not going rl? of course it is...lolololol
but you don't mind lying now do you?
>
> Yeah, I let you know that I know where you work. Does that make you a
> little uncomfortable?
i really doubt it
> Good. Do you consider that a threat?
possibly - but only in the context of you being a wannabe
> Well, it's
> not. That's just your guilty conscience talking.
defined as of course it's a threat, i'll just call it something
else...lololol
>
>
> But you should listen to your guilty conscience.
i'm willing to bet he is:
kenneth w padgett hears zebras, and is spinning like a top...
> You are much too old
> and too sick to be pounding the pavement looking for a new job.
gosh folks, it was only a matter of time before kenny worked in the allusion
to health...
poor little wuzzims gets a real kick out of 'hoping' that those her
perceives as 'enemies' [and he thinks just about anyone who disagrees with
him is an enemy] is really, really, ill. his history over the years is to
bring this up as a flame...such a nice guy! lololol
> And what
> would happen to your family if you lost your income?
how's that mirror kenny? real pretty image that !
> Think about that
> for a while, and then maybe you'll understand why you shouldn't have
> ever talked about my business,
yupper! kenny really, really, doesn't like to be known for the pill peddler
that he is...such a treat!
> or endorsed the attacks on it by others.
but kenny - it's 'your rules' remember? you advocated 'avenger' going after
folk - remember?
>
> There are people watching who really dislike you and they may well have
> decided, based on your own recent actions, that "anything goes" when it
> comes to you.
>
i wonder just 'who' you might be referring to? other pill peddlers? other
scammers in bidnez?
>
> It's not too late for you to pull back some. Don't cut off your nose to
> spite your face. It could be very painful.
> --
all the above from a wannabe webmaster who counsels how to either steal, or
otherwise illegally obtain software...this honorable man kenneth w padgett
isn't just unethical in his pill bidnez, he touts illegality in his
webmastering also:
here is juba aka kenny aka 'red' giving advice 'today' on how to avoid
paying 'real' prices for software
>Here are two ways to get them cheaper than the upgrade price:
>If you have a kid in school you can buy the academic version.
>You can buy an "OEM" version. That's "plain-wrap" software that doesn't
>come with manuals or support. They are supposed to be sold only with a
>hardware purchase but it happens all the time. As a buyer, you needn't
>concern yourself with the details of an agreement between the orginal
>purchaser and the software company. Your only concern should be making
>sure that the product you buy can be registered and paying with a credit
>card just in case for some reason it can't. Those who have moral issues
>with this should definitely always buy from the software co. at full
>price so that they don't feel guilty about it later. :-)
--
>Red
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> to illegally get past the restrictions.
>Those keys are usually invalidated shortly after they are posted and
>with most big-ticket software phoning home every time you start it up,
>it's not long before your copy is disabled.
>If you're going to steal, there's lots of cracked software and key
>generators available as bit torrents these days. Not that I would know
>anything about such things... :-)
--
>Red
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lest there be any doubt - what he counsels 'is' illegal...
but heck that's our kenny!!!
do have a nice spamboi day
paul
| |
| Paul T. Holland 2005-12-22, 5:55 pm |
| newspapers, magazines, television, radio - they've all reported on it...
but of course you wanted it to appear as if it were somehow strange to
know...
wannabe
Juba wrote:
> "Zombywoof" <Zomby-Woof_dogs_@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:m0bjq1ljm3ck00tnc95u37at300naq3pl6@4ax.com
>
> How would you know?
>
> --
> Juba
> www.masterjuba.com
>
> Read the alt.support.chronic-pain Kook Faq
> http://www.masterjuba.com/kook.htm
| |
| Zombywoof 2005-12-24, 12:55 am |
| On Thu, 22 Dec 2005 22:53:08 GMT, "Paul T. Holland"
<pholland@bellatlantic.net> wrote:
>bwahahah kenny there ya go again - true to form with threats and
>innuendo...too funny kid -let's just parse for truth and facts, shall we?
>
Kenny wouldn't the truth or the facts if they jumped up and bit him on
the XXX. All he can do his huff & puff. One post it is business has
never been better, next it his livelyhood down the shitter. They guy
wants it eight way from Sunday seven days a week.
[vbcol=seagreen]
>Juba wrote:
>
>
>you - who only recently had to be told to close back doors and open links
>are going to educate another? that is rich...
>
>
>
>your subtlety is underwhealming...lolol
>
>
>
>ah yes! you pill bidnez...already proven to be affiliated with spammers and
>scammers, you complain because some here don't accept it?
>
> but, since nothing you say can be believed, why should this? because you
>say so?
>
>on the other hand, you have been quite active in indexing you pages, and
>other stratagems, so who is to say which is responsible?
>
>what is certain is that you have already admitted that you welcome
>controversy because it might help your pill peddling business...what a sport
>you are !
>
>proving that you care nothing for the group - but that's right - you said so
>years ago when you first showed up lololololol
>
>
>
>were you to really do so, you would have the most interesting of
>experiances...lolololololol newt
>
>
>you are having another senior moment youngster -
>
>you - in this group -explicitly stated that you were going to email anyone
>that i exposed as a spammer, scammer, or fraud - that you wo | | |