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What happened to Ronnie's apology?
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| I proved that you were responsible for the RL attacks on my livelihood.
Were you lying when you said this?
"Ronnie" <rnvn@snet.net> wrote in message
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> So you prove that I passed on something that I didnt know about and I
> will give
> you a genine *I'm sorry* and tell me while you are at it just who I
> was suppose to
> do this to.
Or did you just not think you'd ever have to make good on it?
You demanded proof and I provided it. What do you have to say about that
Ronnie?
Of course I still don't want an apology unless it's a genuine apology
and you really are sorry for what you did. Now that you know the facts,
I should think you would want to do the decent thing, but maybe not.
It's not going to go away without a little help from you.
--
Juba
www.masterjuba.com
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| loose_cannon@surfy.net 2005-01-27, 7:28 am |
| Juba wrote:
> I proved that you were responsible for the RL attacks on my livelihood.
> Were you lying when you said this?
So just where did you prove it? By calling her a liar and calling her
names? That aint proof of nuthin.
>
> "Ronnie" <rnvn@snet.net> wrote in message
> news:pNlId.20628$by5.15244@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com
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> Or did you just not think you'd ever have to make good on it?
>
> You demanded proof and I provided it. What do you have to say about that
> Ronnie?
>
> Of course I still don't want an apology unless it's a genuine apology
> and you really are sorry for what you did. Now that you know the facts,
> I should think you would want to do the decent thing, but maybe not.
> It's not going to go away without a little help from you.
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| Ronnie 2005-01-27, 7:28 am |
| I honestly havent seen anything because I use OE and nothing has shown up.
Ronnie
<loose_cannon@surfy.net> wrote in message
news:ct177k$pr7$1@fluffy.databasix.com...[vbcol=seagreen]
> Juba wrote:
>
>
> So just where did you prove it? By calling her a liar and calling her
> names? That aint proof of nuthin.
>
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| loose_cannon@surfy.net 2005-01-27, 7:28 am |
| Ronnie wrote:
> I honestly havent seen anything because I use OE and nothing has shown up.
Thats cuz nuthin was ever posted other than Jubaby calling you a liar.
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> Ronnie
>
> <loose_cannon@surfy.net> wrote in message
> news:ct177k$pr7$1@fluffy.databasix.com...
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| ZombyWoof 2005-01-27, 7:28 am |
| On Sun, 23 Jan 2005 13:36:43 -0800, "Juba" <juba@XmasterjubaX.com>
wrote something wonderfully witty:
>I proved that you were responsible for the RL attacks on my livelihood.
>Were you lying when you said this?
>
>"Ronnie" <rnvn@snet.net> wrote in message
>news:pNlId.20628$by5.15244@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com
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>Or did you just not think you'd ever have to make good on it?
>
>You demanded proof and I provided it. What do you have to say about that
>Ronnie?
>
>Of course I still don't want an apology unless it's a genuine apology
>and you really are sorry for what you did. Now that you know the facts,
>I should think you would want to do the decent thing, but maybe not.
>It's not going to go away without a little help from you.
>
What is it with you an apologies? How do you tell a genuine one from
a forged one? Some type of special pen like they use on 50's & 100's?
After three apologies do you get like a fourth one free? Or do you
collect them to send off to those less fortunate who aren't able to
get apologies on their own? I bet the Tsunami victims would love to
get an apology or two.
Wait I know, you donate them to the make "Make-A-Wish" foundation.
--
"patients who undertake opioid maintenance therapy
should behave in a way that is beyond reproach or
suspicion in all matters relating to their use of
medications. Patients who are unwilling or unable
to do so jeopardize not only their own health and
safety, but the health and safety of other patients
with chronic pain." -- Dr. Hurwitz
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| "Ronnie" <rnvn@snet.net> wrote in message
news:3rXId.518$wA5.16@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com
> I honestly havent seen anything because I use OE and nothing has
> shown up.
>
> Ronnie
"...because I use OE and nothing has shown up..."
LOL yeah Ronnie. How convenient. If you're going to demand proof from
someone, you should have the decency to take them out of your killfile
so you can see the proof when it's posted.
All the proof you asked for is posted below, but before you get to that,
I would like an explanation for this allegation you made against me, and
please be specific as to what exactly you meant:
From: "Ronnie" <rnvn@snet.net>
Newsgroups: alt.support.chronic-pain
Subject: Re: Words From Rosie Recap 5 of 113
Message-ID: <jYDFd.14878$by5.4466@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com>
Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:00:15 GMT
.... some of the stuff you sent was pretty scarey....
What "scarey" stuff did I send to you Ronnie? When did I send "stuff" to
you?
And now on to the proof you demanded.
"Ronnie" <rnvn@snet.net> wrote in message
news:pNlId.20628$by5.15244@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com
> ******Juba of everything you have ever said about me I want you to
> PROVE this here and NOW!!! I never knew who you worked for only that
> you were a bathroom book writer. There were so many ppl going after
> you for what ever
> reason (to them) that at this point I really dont think you know who
> did what!
> So you prove that I passed on something that I didnt know about and I
> will give
> you a genine *I'm sorry* and tell me while you are at it just who I
> was suppose to
> do this to.
>
> Ronnie
I know exactly who did what.
"...only that you were a bathroom book writer..." was all they needed to
find my publisher.
Let's review. First there was this from you:
From: "Ronnie" <ronmu...@snet.net>
Newsgroups: alt.support.chronic-pain
Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 02:39:11 GMT
Message-ID: jjEpb.24608$Te7.8610@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com
> ******I have a feeling you think I really care about this?
> Ummm book, author's Bathroom reading? was that the name
> of it? Geez Juba dont you have some
> puter work to do? Or are you taking a rest again?
That triggered an avalanche of derision and scorn, and it wasn't long
before this appeared:
>Subject: Ping: Juba
>From: troll troll@acmetroll.biz
>Date: 11/23/2003 1:20 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <ff5555v200nfghuhdy546u16@acmetroll.biz>
>
>Take a bathroom pill.
>Yea, MF'er, got your book.
>Got your publisher.
>Your name.
>SSN.
And then several messages like this:
From: JubaWu...@surfy.net (fun n games with joooba)
Newsgroups: alt.support.chronic-pain
Subject: Let's make this a Juba-less ng !!!
Date: 4 Dec 2003 00:39:27 -0800
Organization: http://groups.google.com
Message-ID: cb40a483.0312040039.2f3f18eb@posting.google.com
> do ya think his publisher would like to know what their
> writer does in his spare time to abuse ppl who SUFFER
> from serious chronic pain??? i have found and listed the
> contact info of the publisher that jubaby
> says will keep him no matter what
> i'd sure like to put that to the test! wouldn't ya'll like
> to help?
>
> here is the contact infomation for
<snipped>
Identical posts were made by Super Troll (Rosie S) and several Nicky
socks, and you cheered them on Ronnie:
Super Troll said:
heya jubababy
yer time is almost up
the clock is tickin
tick tick tick tick tick tick tick
And Ronnie replied:
From: "Wonker" <Pifinbi...@ques.net>
Newsgroups: alt.support.chronic-pain
Subject: Re: Master Judas needs to go away
Message-ID: <LjKzb.33808$mx3.17002@newssvr32.news.prodigy.com>
Organization: SBC http://yahoo.sbc.com
> Give me a big Christmas present and let me yell TOCK
You provided the crucial piece of information to my enemies that led
them to my publisher. Then they tried to organize a letter writing
campaign to get me fired. You gave them the key and then you cheered
them on. That makes you the person most responsible for the RL attacks
on me. Of course you are also the person most responsible for the RL
attacks on Codeee as well. All because you went on a rampage of
backstabbing over some ill-advised comments Codeee made in an email,
that she immediately apologized for.
--
Juba
www.masterjuba.com
--
Juba
www.masterjuba.com
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| <loose_cannon@surfy.net> wrote in message
news:ct177k$pr7$1@fluffy.databasix.com
> Juba wrote:
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> So just where did you prove it? By calling her a liar and calling her
> names? That aint proof of nuthin.
More of Nicky's lies.
The proof was posted in:
Message-ID: csuh3r$hai$0@pita.alt.net
--
Juba
www.masterjuba.com
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| Ronnie 2005-01-27, 7:28 am |
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"Temp" <temp@XtempX.com> wrote in message news:ct3c1b$vdc$1@pita.alt.net...
> "Ronnie" <rnvn@snet.net> wrote in message
> news:3rXId.518$wA5.16@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com
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> "...because I use OE and nothing has shown up..."
>
> LOL yeah Ronnie. How convenient. If you're going to demand proof from
> someone, you should have the decency to take them out of your killfile
> so you can see the proof when it's posted.
****You are not in my KF I said I dont read in Google...
>
> All the proof you asked for is posted below, but before you get to that,
> I would like an explanation for this allegation you made against me, and
> please be specific as to what exactly you meant:
>
> From: "Ronnie" <rnvn@snet.net>
> Newsgroups: alt.support.chronic-pain
> Subject: Re: Words From Rosie Recap 5 of 113
> Message-ID: <jYDFd.14878$by5.4466@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com>
> Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2005 00:00:15 GMT
> ... some of the stuff you sent was pretty scarey....
>
> What "scarey" stuff did I send to you Ronnie? When did I send "stuff" to
> you?
*****You have a *sent* file? go look there..
>
> And now on to the proof you demanded.
>
> "Ronnie" <rnvn@snet.net> wrote in message
> news:pNlId.20628$by5.15244@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com
>
> I know exactly who did what.
> "...only that you were a bathroom book writer..." was all they needed to
> find my publisher.
>
> Let's review. First there was this from you:
>
> From: "Ronnie" <ronmu...@snet.net>
> Newsgroups: alt.support.chronic-pain
> Date: Tue, 04 Nov 2003 02:39:11 GMT
> Message-ID: jjEpb.24608$Te7.8610@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com
>
> That triggered an avalanche of derision and scorn, and it wasn't long
> before this appeared:
>
>
> And then several messages like this:
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> From: JubaWu...@surfy.net (fun n games with joooba)
> Newsgroups: alt.support.chronic-pain
> Subject: Let's make this a Juba-less ng !!!
> Date: 4 Dec 2003 00:39:27 -0800
> Organization: http://groups.google.com
> Message-ID: cb40a483.0312040039.2f3f18eb@posting.google.com
> <snipped>
>
> Identical posts were made by Super Troll (Rosie S) and several Nicky
> socks, and you cheered them on Ronnie:
>
> Super Troll said:
> heya jubababy
> yer time is almost up
> the clock is tickin
> tick tick tick tick tick tick tick
>
> And Ronnie replied:
>
> From: "Wonker" <Pifinbi...@ques.net>
> Newsgroups: alt.support.chronic-pain
> Subject: Re: Master Judas needs to go away
> Message-ID: <LjKzb.33808$mx3.17002@newssvr32.news.prodigy.com>
> Organization: SBC http://yahoo.sbc.com
>
> You provided the crucial piece of information to my enemies that led
> them to my publisher. Then they tried to organize a letter writing
> campaign to get me fired. You gave them the key and then you cheered
> them on. That makes you the person most responsible for the RL attacks
> on me. Of course you are also the person most responsible for the RL
> attacks on Codeee as well. All because you went on a rampage of
> backstabbing over some ill-advised comments Codeee made in an email,
> that she immediately apologized for.
*****Wrong Juba, I wanted you off the newsgroup PEROID and still would like
to see it but wont waste my time now. I believe it was your ego that was
telling about
your bathroom writing before I said anything about it. You and your
nastiness *cheered*
them on I didnt do anything. I told you why I turned on you and since I
have come back on the group you have proven me how right I was. Let me
again tell you and Codeee that I am
sure is reading this that there were two emails ... I have them and no I
will not post
them I do not post private emails never have never will. I didnt go on a
*rampage*
I told ppl who I had/have been talking to all along how disappointed I was
THAT is
not a *rampage* .. Tell me something what good is an apology if you keep
doing it?
Now as I said before you can keep posting things and as you said some time
ago
you know how to push my buttons.. Not anymore. Spend more time on your next
book, who knows maybe you will become a famous writer and that I do say in
sincerity.
Ronnie
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> --
> Juba
> www.masterjuba.com
>
>
> --
> Juba
> www.masterjuba.com
>
>
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| "ZombyWoof" <Zomby-Woof@Zappa.net> wrote in message
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> What is it with you an apologies? How do you tell a genuine one from
> a forged one?
People sometimes make mistakes. Not you, of course because you don't
ever make a mistake.
Anyway, when one makes a mistake, you can't undo any damage it caused,
but you can acknowledge that a mistake was made and that you're sorry
for it.
--
Juba
www.masterjuba.com
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| "Ronnie" <rnvn@snet.net> wrote in message
news:9%bJd.12764$Vj3.5627@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com
> "Temp" <temp@XtempX.com> wrote in message
> news:ct3c1b$vdc$1@pita.alt.net...
>
> ****You are not in my KF I said I dont read in Google...
Huh? Are you drunk again? If I'm not in your killfile then why didn't
you see the proof I posted until I changed my nym?
>
> *****You have a *sent* file? go look there..
I asked you for an answer Ronnie. Not some bullshit. If you believe I
sent you any "scarey stuff" why don't you just say what it was? Don't
make any more vague accusations against me unless you're willing to back
them up.
>
> *****Wrong Juba,
Not wrong at all. The proof has been posted Ronnie. You are wrong.
> I wanted you off the newsgroup PEROID and still
> would like to see it but wont waste my time now.
LOL
> I believe it was
> your ego that was telling about
> your bathroom writing before I said anything about it.
No Ronnie. You are the one who told them about the bathroom books. You
provided the one piece of information my enemies needed to find my
publisher.
I posted the proof of what you said and what it led to. You can deny it
all you want, but your denials have now been proven to be lies.
--
Juba
www.masterjuba.com
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| ZombyWoof 2005-01-27, 7:29 am |
| On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 11:31:17 -0800, "Juba" <Juba@XmasterjubaX.com>
wrote something wonderfully witty:
>"ZombyWoof" <Zomby-Woof@Zappa.net> wrote in message
>news:a1v8v05ngb738joakrgjcq9ghu1qtk0bum@4ax.com
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>People sometimes make mistakes. Not you, of course because you don't
>ever make a mistake.
>
Because my actions are deliberate. I think before I push send. If I
had not meant what I said, why on earth would I have said it? If I
give advice of a medical nature and I am wrong I have no problem
posting a correction or acknowledging it when someone else does.
Currently the only mistakes I seem to have made was coming to your &
Jite's defense when some untruths were presented. What I said wasn't
wrong, just my assumption that it would be positively acknowledged, or
even ignored, as opposed to being attacked for it. I guess for that I
am sorry, but feel no overriding compulsion to let the entire world
know it. Although I guess I just did.
>Anyway, when one makes a mistake, you can't undo any damage it caused,
>but you can acknowledge that a mistake was made and that you're sorry
>for it.
>
Well if it can't undo any damage, and Peabody can't take you into the
wayback machine to reverse the issue, what is the point other then an
ability for certain people to gloat?
I'd still like to know how you can tell a genuine apology from
a forged or non-sincere one? Hell it is like saying I am sorry you
are an XXXXXXX so often. What did that just accomplish? Just for the
record I was being sincere, so do I get any frequent flyer miles for
that one?
--
"patients who undertake opioid maintenance therapy
should behave in a way that is beyond reproach or
suspicion in all matters relating to their use of
medications. Patients who are unwilling or unable
to do so jeopardize not only their own health and
safety, but the health and safety of other patients
with chronic pain." -- Dr. Hurwitz
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| "ZombyWoof" <Zomby-Woof@Zappa.net> wrote in message
news:rmmbv05jdbsjlustcpbcl2nek43j04g65v@4ax.com
> On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 11:31:17 -0800, "Juba" <Juba@XmasterjubaX.com>
> wrote something wonderfully witty:
>
> Because my actions are deliberate. I think before I push send. If I
> had not meant what I said, why on earth would I have said it?
Humans acknowledge their mistakes. Sub-humans refuse to acknowledge
their mistakes.
> Well if it can't undo any damage, and Peabody can't take you into the
> wayback machine to reverse the issue, what is the point other then an
> ability for certain people to gloat?
A decent person apologizes when they make a mistake that impacts someone
else in a negative way. A decent person who receives an apology doesn't
use it as an opportunity to gloat.
> I'd still like to know how you can tell a genuine apology from
> a forged or non-sincere one?
In a word: context.
--
Juba
www.masterjuba.com
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| Damocles 2005-01-27, 7:31 am |
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"Juba" <juba@XmasterjubaX.com> wrote in message
news:ct6dn4$pst$0@pita.alt.net...
> "ZombyWoof" <Zomby-Woof@Zappa.net> wrote in message
> news:rmmbv05jdbsjlustcpbcl2nek43j04g65v@4ax.com
>
> Humans acknowledge their mistakes. Sub-humans refuse to acknowledge
> their mistakes.
>
>
> A decent person apologizes when they make a mistake that impacts someone
> else in a negative way. A decent person who receives an apology doesn't
> use it as an opportunity to gloat.
>
>
> In a word: context.
> --
> Juba
> www.masterjuba.com
>
>
The correct judgment of an apology is based on content
not context .
Most genuine apologies go something like this " I am
sorry , I was wrong and I apologize " .
Most B.S. apologies sound like this " I'm sorry , but
you know , I was having a bad day and I really am
sorry but I didn't mean for you to see that post but I am
human after all .
As an aside , some sub-human species are capable of a form
of apology . Anyone who has ever had their dog come
into the room with her head down and tail between her
legs can guess that their canine companion is apologizing
for either raiding the steak off the table or " leaving "
a soon to be found surprise !
Richard
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| "Damocles" <Damocles@dinner.net> wrote in message
news:Yp1Kd.2822$2i4.1520@trnddc01
> "Juba" <juba@XmasterjubaX.com> wrote in message
> news:ct6dn4$pst$0@pita.alt.net...
>
> The correct judgment of an apology is based on content
> not context .
>
> Most genuine apologies go something like this " I am
> sorry , I was wrong and I apologize " .
>
> Most B.S. apologies sound like this " I'm sorry , but
> you know , I was having a bad day and I really am
> sorry but I didn't mean for you to see that post but I am
> human after all .
>
> As an aside , some sub-human species are capable of a form
> of apology . Anyone who has ever had their dog come
> into the room with her head down and tail between her
> legs can guess that their canine companion is apologizing
> for either raiding the steak off the table or " leaving "
> a soon to be found surprise !
>
> Richard
Well, you could say that "I'm sorry" is the content, everything else is
context. Saying "I'm sorry, but..." and then offering up some kind of
excuse is never a genuine apology.
One of the many good things about dogs is that they never make excuses
for their mistakes.
--
Juba
www.masterjuba.com
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| ZombyWoof 2005-01-28, 7:50 am |
| On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 08:14:48 GMT, "Damocles" <Damocles@dinner.net>
wrote something wonderfully witty:
>
>"Juba" <juba@XmasterjubaX.com> wrote in message
>news:ct6dn4$pst$0@pita.alt.net...
>
>The correct judgment of an apology is based on content
>not context .
>
>Most genuine apologies go something like this " I am
>sorry , I was wrong and I apologize " .
>
>Most B.S. apologies sound like this " I'm sorry , but
>you know , I was having a bad day and I really am
>sorry but I didn't mean for you to see that post but I am
>human after all .
>
Or the ever famous, I'm sorry you took it that way. 
>As an aside , some sub-human species are capable of a form
>of apology . Anyone who has ever had their dog come
>into the room with her head down and tail between her
>legs can guess that their canine companion is apologizing
>for either raiding the steak off the table or " leaving "
>a soon to be found surprise !
>
>Richard
>
More like shame, then an apology.
--
"patients who undertake opioid maintenance therapy
should behave in a way that is beyond reproach or
suspicion in all matters relating to their use of
medications. Patients who are unwilling or unable
to do so jeopardize not only their own health and
safety, but the health and safety of other patients
with chronic pain." -- Dr. Hurwitz
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