Chronic pain Support - oxycontin or codiene contin

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oxycontin or codiene contin

clarissa

2004-10-16, 11:07 am

Hi I am new to this group. I take codiene contin for daily
headaches/migraines and wonder what is the difference between cod contin and
oxycontin - does anyone know? I would be interested because there seems to
be such a worry about addiction over oxycontin and yet I am not at all
addicited to what I am taking, although I am somewhat physically dependent
on it. I would have to withdraw slowly from it but am not psychologically
attached to it, I use it only for pain. Thanks for hearing me out.
Blessings Jean

RMK

2004-10-16, 7:08 pm

Hi Jean,

The difference I would assume is the active ingredient...codeine is in Codeine
Contin and morphine is in MS Contin. I'm not familiar with Codeine Contin, so
I can't say more than this on the difference.

The difference in someone psychologically addicted and physically addicted is
the reason the medication is taken. If someone is taking it for pain, they do
not become addicted...they are dependant on it, which is not a bad
thing....think of it this way...a Diabetic is dependant on Insulin or oral meds
so they can lead a normal life. On the other hand, when you have someone who
uses the drugs for recreational purposes, they are psychologically
addicted...they can't be without their drugs or they feel sick, shaky, etc.,
etc., etc. They will do anything to get their drug of choice.

I hope this makes sense to you and I have been able to help.

Robin

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>Hi I am new to this group. I take codiene contin for daily
>headaches/migraines and wonder what is the difference between cod contin and
>oxycontin - does anyone know? I would be interested because there seems to
>be such a worry about addiction over oxycontin and yet I am not at all
>addicited to what I am taking, although I am somewhat physically dependent
>on it. I would have to withdraw slowly from it but am not psychologically
>attached to it, I use it only for pain. Thanks for hearing me out.
>Blessings Jean

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Joe_Z

2004-10-16, 7:08 pm

if your well enough to worry about addicition i don't think you would need
that heavy a med... imho...

"clarissa" <clarissa@telus.net> wrote in message
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> Hi I am new to this group. I take codiene contin for daily
> headaches/migraines and wonder what is the difference between cod contin
and
> oxycontin - does anyone know? I would be interested because there seems
to
> be such a worry about addiction over oxycontin and yet I am not at all
> addicited to what I am taking, although I am somewhat physically dependent
> on it. I would have to withdraw slowly from it but am not psychologically
> attached to it, I use it only for pain. Thanks for hearing me out.
> Blessings Jean
>
>

ZombyWoof

2004-10-16, 7:09 pm

On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 15:24:45 GMT, "clarissa" <clarissa@telus.net>
wrote something wonderfully witty:

>Hi I am new to this group. I take codiene contin for daily
>headaches/migraines and wonder what is the difference between cod contin and
>oxycontin - does anyone know? I would be interested because there seems to
>be such a worry about addiction over oxycontin and yet I am not at all
>addicited to what I am taking, although I am somewhat physically dependent
>on it. I would have to withdraw slowly from it but am not psychologically
>attached to it, I use it only for pain. Thanks for hearing me out.
>Blessings Jean
>
Basically the major difference is the active ingredients. The Oxy
being stronger then the Codeine. Some people can take one effectively
and not the other. For me personally, Codeine gives me a headache.
Do it isn't a very effective pain reliever for anything since it
causes such a wicked headache. I've also heard of people being
allergic to Codeine.
--

You can run, but you'll only die tired.

ZombyWoof

~NortH~

2004-10-16, 7:09 pm

"ZombyWoof" <Zomby-Woof@Zappa.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 15:24:45 GMT, "clarissa" <clarissa@telus.net>
> wrote something wonderfully witty:
>
> Basically the major difference is the active ingredients. The Oxy
> being stronger then the Codeine. Some people can take one effectively
> and not the other. For me personally, Codeine gives me a headache.
> Do it isn't a very effective pain reliever for anything since it
> causes such a wicked headache. I've also heard of people being
> allergic to Codeine.

they started me, wat back when, on percs then on to something stronger,
forget now but was in the same family... codeine/codone and i found taking
them made me horribly itchy... i mean i would scratch and break the sking it
itched that bad... my doctor said some people react that way.. it is a mild
allergy to it... so he then started me in the morphine/morphone based family
of drugs... it is a little better, still get a little itchy, but then again
the strength since i started has risen tremedously.

~NortH~

> --
>
> You can run, but you'll only die tired.
>
> ZombyWoof

Joe_Z

2004-10-16, 7:09 pm

weird, i took codeine for close to 20 years off and on with no noticable
headache, different system chem i guess, it did upset my stomach now and
then, it finally started losing it's effect a few years ago...

i've never (knock on wood) had an issue with headaches in my life, the few
bad ones i had put me down completely... my youth hangovers just made me
numb and drag, i did have a few bangers though...

if the pains something you can not get away from go for different relief
imho, best luck though...

"ZombyWoof" <Zomby-Woof@Zappa.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 15:24:45 GMT, "clarissa" <clarissa@telus.net>
> wrote something wonderfully witty:
>
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psychologically[vbcol=seagreen]
> Basically the major difference is the active ingredients. The Oxy
> being stronger then the Codeine. Some people can take one effectively
> and not the other. For me personally, Codeine gives me a headache.
> Do it isn't a very effective pain reliever for anything since it
> causes such a wicked headache. I've also heard of people being
> allergic to Codeine.
> --
>
> You can run, but you'll only die tired.
>
> ZombyWoof

ZombyWoof

2004-10-16, 10:07 pm

On Sat, 16 Oct 2004 17:34:42 -0400, "Joe_Z" <yaya@naha.org> wrote
something wonderfully witty:

>weird, i took codeine for close to 20 years off and on with no noticable
>headache, different system chem i guess, it did upset my stomach now and
>then, it finally started losing it's effect a few years ago...
>
>i've never (knock on wood) had an issue with headaches in my life, the few
>bad ones i had put me down completely... my youth hangovers just made me
>numb and drag, i did have a few bangers though...
>
As with most pain issues it is real hard to related to another's pain
issues without having experienced them first hand. Many researchers
feel that women have a higher tolerance to pain then men, yet will
search out for relief of it more often. Imagine the worse headache
you've ever had, square it and then deal with it everyday. That is
how some migraine patients go through daily life.

>if the pains something you can not get away from go for different relief
>imho, best luck though...
>
>"ZombyWoof" <Zomby-Woof@Zappa.net> wrote in message
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>and
>to
>dependent
>psychologically
>

--

You can run, but you'll only die tired.

ZombyWoof

NW Blue Penguin

2004-10-17, 2:07 am

>Subject: Re: oxycontin or codiene contin
>From: "Joe_Z" yaya@naha.org
>Date: 10/16/2004 9:51 AM Pacific

Not necessarily.....when first hit with this "suicidal level" of chronic pain,
I was very concerned about addiction. It was my doctor who put those worries
to rest for me and that took some time.

I was completely naive about taking opiates long term, other than cancer
patients. I had no idea how safe it was for me to be taking such large doses
of opiates.....especially since I would be taking them for the rest of my life.
Unless of course medical research finds a solution for me.

>if your well enough to worry about addicition i don't think you would need
>that heavy a med... imho...
>

"The family is the nucleus of civilization"
-Ariel and Will Durant

pinkrainbow

2004-10-17, 11:07 am

codeine-contin is metabolized in the liver to morphine or norcodeine.
Codeine controlled relase is absorbed to an equivalent extent as
immediate-release tablet , in single dose studies in fasting, healthy
volunteers, the maximum plasma codeine concenttration is approximately 56%
of that from immediate-release formulations and is achieeved approximately
2.6 times later-at 3.3 post-dosing., and should be given with caution other
opiod analgesics, phenothiazines, or other tranquoizers, sedative=hypnotics,
triculic anti depress.,a dn other cns depressants(including alcohol)
Rspiratory depression, hypotension and profound sedation or coma may result.
as with other opiates, constipation, alcohol, and if you have a condition
like asthma, it slowly your breathing. i am not a dr. and got this info.
from a cps(the book the dr.s use, and noticed it's faster onset, where it
says it's absorbed as quickly as immediate release. you may want to check
that out for accuracy with your dr. or pharmacy.
pinkrainbow

"clarissa" <clarissa@telus.net> wrote in message
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> Hi I am new to this group. I take codiene contin for daily
> headaches/migraines and wonder what is the difference between cod contin
> and
> oxycontin - does anyone know? I would be interested because there seems
> to
> be such a worry about addiction over oxycontin and yet I am not at all
> addicited to what I am taking, although I am somewhat physically dependent
> on it. I would have to withdraw slowly from it but am not psychologically
> attached to it, I use it only for pain. Thanks for hearing me out.
> Blessings Jean
>
>

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pinkrainbow

2004-10-17, 11:07 am

i would question that Joe(no offence intended), even if your in suicidal
pain as penquin says, she questioned the use of opiates(as until the last
decade it was only prescribed for cancer patients).
pinkrainbow
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> if your well enough to worry about addicition i don't think you would need
> that heavy a med... imho...
>
> "clarissa" <clarissa@telus.net> wrote in message
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> and
> to
>
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BikerBabe

2004-10-17, 11:07 am

Opiates are very addictive, or as you put it, you can get very dependent
on it. Regardless if you use for pleasure or for pain, if you take it
daily for more than a few weeks, you will build a tolerance and when you
stop taking it, you will go thru withdrawals. A taper isn't as painful
as a cold turkey, but it's not easy either. You do a drop in your dose
every so often when you taper, my drop was once a month by 30% off MS
Contin. I spent the first two weeks of the month sick from the drop in
dose as my body adjusted to the lower amount of drugs than it was used
to. Then the next two weeks I would even out and just when I started to
feel good again, it was time to do it all over again. Like you, I
didn't abuse my meds, I took as directed. I stopped the taper when I
got down to only 60 mg a day and did the rest cold turkey, which I found
much easier to get thru on the whole than the taper.

I have to question why you are taking opiates for headaches. Opiates
are not the DOC (Drug Of Choice) for head pain. Has your doctor tried
giving you Imitrex? It works great for migraines for most people.
Caffergot (sp?) is another drug that works for migraines and it's been
around for years. Those the previous drugs doesn't work on get help
then usually from Fiorinal. Be warned, Fiorinal is very addictive as it
is a barbiturate. If you haven't tried these meds, ask your doctor if
you can.

BB

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pinkrainbow

2004-10-17, 7:08 pm

Biker Babe, love the name,..are you really one?11
"I am pink, i am curious, that when you went off the ms, and were stabilized
without any more withdrawl, did your personality change at all? I notice my
depression has escalated after a year off oxycontin(20 mg. tid), i am less
tolerant of my cat, and home-makers, but since i don't get out a lot, don't
always realize if i am different. initially it was wonderful, i
thought..now i can "really get a life again", but that wore off, and the
not-knowing which days are going to be okay and the one's that aren't, makes
it hard to make a commitment even to volunteering. Being alone, i become to
introverted, and self-absorbed, and have to do a gratitude list frequently,
if i run into self-pity, or maybe it's just grieving. i would have thought
that at the 14 year mark(TODAY!), i would have found some kind of meaningful
existence..but i haven't. structure helps, but only having phone friends
that are also disabled, doesn't help, and the "normies" can't handle the
"suffering" thing, so of course i don't talk about it(especially with
family), but can't always "turn on a happy", and they probably hear it in my
voice. I was 36, when i had a sudden onset of the illness from hell, that
left me in bed for 6 years, and in the lazy-boy since. i do take walks, and
started hydrotherapy, but after being an athlete, it's hard to be excited
about geriatric mickey mouse excercise, though i can barely keep up! sorry,
guess i needed to talk about the "anniversary"!
I know a lot of people here still work, or are active in things they enjoy,
i have found that as each year goes by, i become less high-functioning, and
things i enjoyed(water colour painting, knittiing, etc.) are blocked by
apathy. my family wants me in a "home"!!!! with other disabled, as i have
accidents(balance, brain fog,etc). I would never agree, without them
dragging me there, but when i was hospitalized once, i actually enjoyed the
"eating meals(horrible food!), but just being around energy, gives me
energy, and my old humorous personality back. i do go to a positive thinking
group on saturday morning, and it's the one thing i do, that doesn't make me
feel like an illness.
Anyway, sorry for the tangent, i am curious how you cope without opiates..or
do you? and if you returned to you usual, happy self(assuming that you
were!).
i noticed in previous posts(though not clearly) that in supporting Nat you
showed that you have been through unbelievable suffering, and yet still seem
positive, and happy to support others going through a similar thing.
pinkrainbow
"BikerBabe" <Yeah@Right.Com> wrote in message
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> Opiates are very addictive, or as you put it, you can get very dependent
> on it. Regardless if you use for pleasure or for pain, if you take it
> daily for more than a few weeks, you will build a tolerance and when you
> stop taking it, you will go thru withdrawals. A taper isn't as painful as
> a cold turkey, but it's not easy either. You do a drop in your dose every
> so often when you taper, my drop was once a month by 30% off MS Contin. I
> spent the first two weeks of the month sick from the drop in dose as my
> body adjusted to the lower amount of drugs than it was used to. Then the
> next two weeks I would even out and just when I started to feel good
> again, it was time to do it all over again. Like you, I didn't abuse my
> meds, I took as directed. I stopped the taper when I got down to only 60
> mg a day and did the rest cold turkey, which I found much easier to get
> thru on the whole than the taper.
>
> I have to question why you are taking opiates for headaches. Opiates are
> not the DOC (Drug Of Choice) for head pain. Has your doctor tried giving
> you Imitrex? It works great for migraines for most people. Caffergot
> (sp?) is another drug that works for migraines and it's been around for
> years. Those the previous drugs doesn't work on get help then usually
> from Fiorinal. Be warned, Fiorinal is very addictive as it is a
> barbiturate. If you haven't tried these meds, ask your doctor if you can.
>
> BB
>

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BikerBabe

2004-10-17, 7:08 pm

You've got a cool nickname yourself pink rainbow. On the rare occasions
we have rain here in Phoenix, we are in the perfect position to see
rainbows out our sliding glass windows that lead out to our balcony. My
desk sits right next to the window so I can look out over the city as I
play online every day, so I usually see them all. Now I'll think of you
when I see the next one.

One of my exs had a Harley, so that's where the BB nick came from. He
got the bike, I got the divorce. LOL.

I was on almost every type of opiate painkiller thru the years at one
time or another, but at the end of it all I made sure I was on the MS
Contin since that is the easiest of all the long acting ones to detox
from. You will probably see me talk about the other ones too as I post
more, so I wanted to let you know that, then I don't sound like I'm
making stuff up. That tends to happen at times, since I've led a rather
'full' life. Simply put, I've been raped (more than once), robbed,
stabbed, lied to, mentally and physically abused, cheated on, burned out
of my home, and other assorted *fun* things. If an occasion arises
where I think my experience will help someone avoid such misery in their
life, I have no problem talking about it all. If I can help one person
avoid such pain in their life, then my going thru it was worthwhile.

Now that I'm off the opiates I'm pretty much back to the same
personality I was before I took them, but there are some changes. I
don't have the long suffering patience I had before, now I can blow on
someone after days instead of weeks. I find that aches and pains that
wouldn't have phased me pre drug, now hurt a lot more. I'm hoping that
will get less as time goes on and my body redevelops it's natural pain
tolerance that it used to have. I'm aware that may not happen.

I am the same with my bird as you are with your cat. My hubby sits and
laughs at us some days and she and I sit and argue with each other. He
thinks it's funny to see a 3 ounce cockatiel get the better of her
'mommy'. LOL. I too get impatient with 'normal' people at times when
they refuse to understand that there are days I just can't do things.
Yes, I look fine on the outside, but inside I'm a mess. That old saying
'you can't judge a book by it's cover' comes to mind. It can be VERY
frustrating to mentally feel like you can do the things you used to, but
when you try, your body won't comply. Try explaining that to someone
who's never experienced it though .. they rarely understand.

I'm homebound most of the time myself, so know what you go thru. If it
wasn't for the internet I'd have almost no contact with others. The net
basically has saved my sanity, since I've always been a people person
and love meeting people and talking to them. I still have days when I
watch out the window and see people doing things I used to be able to do
and it can get to me. I remember riding 20 miles a day on my mountain
bike. Today I'd be lucky to make it a mile or two before I'd die. Heh.
I remember when I was at my worst that my hubby had to physically
carry me down the stairs so I could go out (we live on the 2nd floor),
then once a little better being able to get down them on my own,
painfully and very slowly, one step at a time just like a 2 year old
would. Today I can walk up and down them like anyone else would and I
consider that a major victory and have to smile every time I do it.
It's the little things like that I focus on to make myself feel better.
A warped sense of humor helps too.

I know what you mean about normal people. Once they realize what
Crohn's Disease is and what it involves, most really don't want me to
keep talking about it. Normal people don't tend to like to discuss
bowel movements openly. LOL. When I get to the part about how I can
shit on command, they almost always try to quickly change the subject.
Of course I have a picture of the X-Ray taking toilet from that test. I
figured if I didn't get one, no one would ever believe me that such a
critter actually exists.

As far as coping these days without opiates, I do take a Vicodin ES on
bad pain days, but that adds up to just a couple days per week. The
rest of the days I manage to get thru without it. I mainly will take
one on the days when I must go out and do something. If I'm just
sitting at home playing games or posting/chatting with friends online, I
can usually get thru the day without anything. Guess you could say if I
don't have to move much I don't hurt.

As far as my attitude goes, I was taught long ago that I have a choice
when I wake up each day to be happy or depressed. I do my best to pick
happy and not let stuff get me down. Most of the time it works, but I
won't say I don't have days when I scream out 'I don't want to have
Crohn's today', have a good cry, get the frustration out and then try to
move on.

14 years is a long time. Knowing you have an affliction that will last
the rest of your life can be depressing. I try to take things one day
at a time instead of looking at the whole picture. It seems to make it
easier.

BB

pinkrainbow wrote:
> Biker Babe, love the name,..are you really one?11
> "I am pink, i am curious, that when you went off the ms, and were stabilized
> without any more withdrawl, did your personality change at all? I notice my
> depression has escalated after a year off oxycontin(20 mg. tid), i am less
> tolerant of my cat, and home-makers, but since i don't get out a lot, don't
> always realize if i am different. initially it was wonderful, i
> thought..now i can "really get a life again", but that wore off, and the
> not-knowing which days are going to be okay and the one's that aren't, makes
> it hard to make a commitment even to volunteering. Being alone, i become to
> introverted, and self-absorbed, and have to do a gratitude list frequently,
> if i run into self-pity, or maybe it's just grieving. i would have thought
> that at the 14 year mark(TODAY!), i would have found some kind of meaningful
> existence..but i haven't. structure helps, but only having phone friends
> that are also disabled, doesn't help, and the "normies" can't handle the
> "suffering" thing, so of course i don't talk about it(especially with
> family), but can't always "turn on a happy", and they probably hear it in my
> voice. I was 36, when i had a sudden onset of the illness from hell, that
> left me in bed for 6 years, and in the lazy-boy since. i do take walks, and
> started hydrotherapy, but after being an athlete, it's hard to be excited
> about geriatric mickey mouse excercise, though i can barely keep up! sorry,
> guess i needed to talk about the "anniversary"!
> I know a lot of people here still work, or are active in things they enjoy,
> i have found that as each year goes by, i become less high-functioning, and
> things i enjoyed(water colour painting, knittiing, etc.) are blocked by
> apathy. my family wants me in a "home"!!!! with other disabled, as i have
> accidents(balance, brain fog,etc). I would never agree, without them
> dragging me there, but when i was hospitalized once, i actually enjoyed the
> "eating meals(horrible food!), but just being around energy, gives me
> energy, and my old humorous personality back. i do go to a positive thinking
> group on saturday morning, and it's the one thing i do, that doesn't make me
> feel like an illness.
> Anyway, sorry for the tangent, i am curious how you cope without opiates..or
> do you? and if you returned to you usual, happy self(assuming that you
> were!).
> i noticed in previous posts(though not clearly) that in supporting Nat you
> showed that you have been through unbelievable suffering, and yet still seem
> positive, and happy to support others going through a similar thing.
> pinkrainbow
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pinkrainbow

2004-10-17, 10:07 pm

Thanks so much for your reply....i can't relate to you on many levels,
including "the living a full life part:"..most wouldn't believe it if i told
them, and these days i am ashamed of them, and often blame myself for the
illness, for living in the fast lane, and kind of living 2-3 lifetimes by
the time i hit 36....now that there is no drama, i am in a living prison,
and don't know how to get out. i don't talk about in the ng, but i was an rn
for 20 years(cancer, out-post and obstetrics),i won't go into my story now,
as i value your time, and everything you have to say. i am really fading
out, spent way too much time on this dam computer and the ng today, probably
trying to distract myself from the anniversary thing! may i talk to you
again?,....i know your very busy
Di(that's what my friends call me!
pinkrainbow
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> You've got a cool nickname yourself pink rainbow. On the rare occasions
> we have rain here in Phoenix, we are in the perfect position to see
> rainbows out our sliding glass windows that lead out to our balcony. My
> desk sits right next to the window so I can look out over the city as I
> play online every day, so I usually see them all. Now I'll think of you
> when I see the next one.

>
> One of my exs had a Harley, so that's where the BB nick came from. He got
> the bike, I got the divorce. LOL.
>
> I was on almost every type of opiate painkiller thru the years at one time
> or another, but at the end of it all I made sure I was on the MS Contin
> since that is the easiest of all the long acting ones to detox from. You
> will probably see me talk about the other ones too as I post more, so I
> wanted to let you know that, then I don't sound like I'm making stuff up.
> That tends to happen at times, since I've led a rather 'full' life.
> Simply put, I've been raped (more than once), robbed, stabbed, lied to,
> mentally and physically abused, cheated on, burned out of my home, and
> other assorted *fun* things. If an occasion arises where I think my
> experience will help someone avoid such misery in their life, I have no
> problem talking about it all. If I can help one person avoid such pain in
> their life, then my going thru it was worthwhile.
>
> Now that I'm off the opiates I'm pretty much back to the same personality
> I was before I took them, but there are some changes. I don't have the
> long suffering patience I had before, now I can blow on someone after days
> instead of weeks. I find that aches and pains that wouldn't have phased
> me pre drug, now hurt a lot more. I'm hoping that will get less as time
> goes on and my body redevelops it's natural pain tolerance that it used to
> have. I'm aware that may not happen.
>
> I am the same with my bird as you are with your cat. My hubby sits and
> laughs at us some days and she and I sit and argue with each other. He
> thinks it's funny to see a 3 ounce cockatiel get the better of her
> 'mommy'. LOL. I too get impatient with 'normal' people at times when
> they refuse to understand that there are days I just can't do things. Yes,
> I look fine on the outside, but inside I'm a mess. That old saying 'you
> can't judge a book by it's cover' comes to mind. It can be VERY
> frustrating to mentally feel like you can do the things you used to, but
> when you try, your body won't comply. Try explaining that to someone
> who's never experienced it though .. they rarely understand.
>
> I'm homebound most of the time myself, so know what you go thru. If it
> wasn't for the internet I'd have almost no contact with others. The net
> basically has saved my sanity, since I've always been a people person and
> love meeting people and talking to them. I still have days when I watch
> out the window and see people doing things I used to be able to do and it
> can get to me. I remember riding 20 miles a day on my mountain bike.
> Today I'd be lucky to make it a mile or two before I'd die. Heh. I
> remember when I was at my worst that my hubby had to physically carry me
> down the stairs so I could go out (we live on the 2nd floor), then once a
> little better being able to get down them on my own, painfully and very
> slowly, one step at a time just like a 2 year old would. Today I can walk
> up and down them like anyone else would and I consider that a major
> victory and have to smile every time I do it. It's the little things like
> that I focus on to make myself feel better. A warped sense of humor helps
> too.

>
> I know what you mean about normal people. Once they realize what Crohn's
> Disease is and what it involves, most really don't want me to keep talking
> about it. Normal people don't tend to like to discuss bowel movements
> openly. LOL. When I get to the part about how I can shit on command,
> they almost always try to quickly change the subject. Of course I have a
> picture of the X-Ray taking toilet from that test. I figured if I didn't
> get one, no one would ever believe me that such a critter actually exists.
>
> As far as coping these days without opiates, I do take a Vicodin ES on bad
> pain days, but that adds up to just a couple days per week. The rest of
> the days I manage to get thru without it. I mainly will take one on the
> days when I must go out and do something. If I'm just sitting at home
> playing games or posting/chatting with friends online, I can usually get
> thru the day without anything. Guess you could say if I don't have to
> move much I don't hurt.
>
> As far as my attitude goes, I was taught long ago that I have a choice
> when I wake up each day to be happy or depressed. I do my best to pick
> happy and not let stuff get me down. Most of the time it works, but I
> won't say I don't have days when I scream out 'I don't want to have
> Crohn's today', have a good cry, get the frustration out and then try to
> move on.
>
> 14 years is a long time. Knowing you have an affliction that will last
> the rest of your life can be depressing. I try to take things one day at
> a time instead of looking at the whole picture. It seems to make it
> easier.
>
> BB
>
>
> pinkrainbow wrote:

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2004-10-17, 10:07 pm

I have all the time in the world. I am online if I'm awake. I went
away for a few days last weekend, so I will now spend the next 2-3 weeks
resting and getting my strength back.

My hubby was a nurse, then a cop. (He went from fixing them up to
beating them up. LOL. Yes, that IS a joke gang!) Until he met me he
had never seen the 'other' side of doctors. He knew they were assholes
to the nurses at times, but he never realized that carried over even
more to patients.

I'll never forget the G.I. doc, in true G.I. doc fashion, who told me my
pain was because I smoked cigarettes (but didn't have an answer when I
told him the pain started years before I started to smoke), it was only
IBS and he could refer me to a good shrink. I went from his office
straight to a G.P. doc who was kind enough to run the CT Scan that then
found my Crohn's. My small bowel was 90% filled with scar tissue, but
remember, it was all in my head. Yeah, right! While my hubby had heard
me talk about such doctors in my past before he met me, I don't think he
really realized how bad most of them are with their god complex.
Watching me almost die from a disease which isn't considered to be fatal
made him a believer.

I'm curious if you also found this to be true when you went from being
the nurse to being the patient?

As far as a living prison goes, I can relate. My going joke is I live
in my little corner in my cave. I do my best to keep my mind busy at
all times so I don't have time to dwell on how rotten I feel or on the
things I can't do anymore. On the few days a month I can get out, I do
my utmost to make the most of them, so I have memories to last me till I
feel able to do it again. When I look back on all the things I've
experienced in my life, I prefer to see it as 'I'm happy I did it then,
since I'm not able to do it now'. Had I waited, I would have missed out
on a lot of things.

It's nice to meet you Di. I'm Nancy.

BB

pinkrainbow wrote:
> Thanks so much for your reply....i can't relate to you on many levels,
> including "the living a full life part:"..most wouldn't believe it if i told
> them, and these days i am ashamed of them, and often blame myself for the
> illness, for living in the fast lane, and kind of living 2-3 lifetimes by
> the time i hit 36....now that there is no drama, i am in a living prison,
> and don't know how to get out. i don't talk about in the ng, but i was an rn
> for 20 years(cancer, out-post and obstetrics),i won't go into my story now,
> as i value your time, and everything you have to say. i am really fading
> out, spent way too much time on this dam computer and the ng today, probably
> trying to distract myself from the anniversary thing! may i talk to you
> again?,....i know your very busy
> Di(that's what my friends call me!
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Ray

2004-10-18, 4:06 am

"clarissa" <clarissa@telus.net> wrote in message
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> Hi I am new to this group. I take codiene contin for daily
> headaches/migraines and wonder what is the difference between cod contin
> and
> oxycontin - does anyone know? I would be interested because there seems
> to
> be such a worry about addiction over oxycontin and yet I am not at all
> addicited to what I am taking, although I am somewhat physically dependent
> on it. I would have to withdraw slowly from it but am not psychologically
> attached to it, I use it only for pain. Thanks for hearing me out.
> Blessings Jean
>

Dear Jean
I guess it goes with out saying, you have tried all the preventives and
abortive for Migraine, because your on the heavy hitters of
pain killers imho. I can't help you with your Question as I don't know about
drugs for pain your taking. I can't take the new Triptan meds for abortive,
they did work at one time , but just stopped working for me and my
headaches/migraines/ neck pain turned chronic awhile back. I still take
preventatives namely Topamax, Amitrptyline, Sandomigraine and Diazepam. And
for the pain Tylenol #3 2 taps-3 times a day, and Neurontin and for nausea
Metoclop.This just keeps the daily bearable and can get most household
chores done, but I can't excert myself to much or I'm back to a full blow
headache.Was just curious did you go through something similar as this
before you got to where you are now? with pain management.

pinkrainbow

2004-10-19, 7:14 pm

BikerBabe

2004-10-19, 7:14 pm