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The Catholics have a new pope
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| djgordon 2005-04-19, 11:47 am |
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| djgordon 2005-04-19, 11:47 am |
| Pope Benedict XVI. He's from Germany, born in 1927, Cardinal Joseph
Ratzinger. So there you have it. Not to blaspheme or be rude but he looks
like a badger.
Dani
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| Gisele 2005-04-19, 10:51 pm |
| Isn't that rather old to be Pope?
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| Judity 2005-04-19, 10:51 pm |
| ((Pope Benedict XVI. He's from Germany, born in 1927, Cardinal Joseph
Ratzinger. So there you have it. Not to blaspheme or be rude but he looks
like a badger.))
Dani, from what I've heard on TV this morning, he's still not the one to
bring the church into the 21st century. It struck me the other day that of
the 115 cardinals who voted for this new pope, not one was a woman.
However, since I'm not a Catholic, it's really none of my business, but I
find it sad that women still aren't considered equals in such a world-wide
organization. Probably won't be in our lifetimes, either.
Judity
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| djgordon 2005-04-19, 10:51 pm |
| The news said there are some concerns about that.
Dani
"Gisele" <Gdubson@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Isn't that rather old to be Pope?
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| bsptss@aol.com 2005-04-19, 10:51 pm |
| As a catholic, I am very disappointed that they have elected a pope who
is 78 years old. We'll be going through all this again within 5 years
or so. I think it's ridiculous. I am very disappointed. It's not like
they were blindsided by Pope John Paul's death and had to make a sudden
decision. He was eldery and ill for a long time.
Barbara
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| djgordon 2005-04-19, 10:51 pm |
| All I know about him is that an archbishop they were interviewing said he
was very warm and kindhearted and always was willing to drop everything to
help someone. Isn't that any person who is a follower of God?
Dani
"Judity" <Judity01@aol.com> wrote in message
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> ((Pope Benedict XVI. He's from Germany, born in 1927, Cardinal Joseph
> Ratzinger. So there you have it. Not to blaspheme or be rude but he looks
> like a badger.))
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> Dani, from what I've heard on TV this morning, he's still not the one to
> bring the church into the 21st century. It struck me the other day that
of
> the 115 cardinals who voted for this new pope, not one was a woman.
>
> However, since I'm not a Catholic, it's really none of my business, but I
> find it sad that women still aren't considered equals in such a world-wide
> organization. Probably won't be in our lifetimes, either.
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> Judity
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| bsptss@aol.com 2005-04-19, 10:51 pm |
| All I know about him is that an archbishop they were interviewing said
he was very warm and kindhearted and always was willing to drop
everything to
help someone. Isn't that any person who is a follower of God? Dani
Dani-- What else is an archbishop supposed to say on national TV? I
heard a reporter from Germany interviewed who said half the population
will accept him and half will have a really hard time forgetting what
he has done. I haven't heard what he's done yet that was so
unforgiveable to them, but it doesn't sound so good coming from your
own country.
Barbara
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| Judity 2005-04-19, 10:51 pm |
| ((All I know about him is that an archbishop they were interviewing said he
was very warm and kindhearted and always was willing to drop everything to
help someone. Isn't that any person who is a follower of God? ))
Dani, that's part of what I believe. However, even though I'm not one for
organized religions, I would think its leader should be more in touch with a
large portion of its members. It probably will be too hard, though, for
such an elderly person to change how he looks at life.
Judity
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| djgordon 2005-04-19, 10:51 pm |
| Well, of course. I wasn't saying that it was true or that I knew of this and
was touting it as fact, just that's what I heard and was saying it in
respone to Judity in letting her know that that was the extent of my
knowledge of the new pope. He may be a pedophile for all I know, and if I
hear that on the news I'll tell that too, but not give it over as fact, just
that that's what I heard.
LOL
Dani
<bsptss@aol.com> wrote in message
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> All I know about him is that an archbishop they were interviewing said
> he was very warm and kindhearted and always was willing to drop
> everything to
> help someone. Isn't that any person who is a follower of God? Dani
>
> Dani-- What else is an archbishop supposed to say on national TV? I
> heard a reporter from Germany interviewed who said half the population
> will accept him and half will have a really hard time forgetting what
> he has done. I haven't heard what he's done yet that was so
> unforgiveable to them, but it doesn't sound so good coming from your
> own country.
>
> Barbara
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| Margie 2005-04-19, 10:51 pm |
| My understanding is that he's being seen as a kind of place-holder,
chosen on purpose because he will likely have a short reign, which
will allow the Church more time to put its house in order. He is
known as very conservative in his opinions on homosexuality, gay
marriage, ordination of women, etc., and very much in line with the
views of John Paul II.
Margie
On 19 Apr 2005 10:32:03 -0700, bsptss@aol.com wrote:
>As a catholic, I am very disappointed that they have elected a pope who
>is 78 years old. We'll be going through all this again within 5 years
>or so. I think it's ridiculous. I am very disappointed. It's not like
>they were blindsided by Pope John Paul's death and had to make a sudden
>decision. He was eldery and ill for a long time.
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>Barbara
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| Maureen Galvin 2005-04-19, 10:51 pm |
| I fear a big problem with come with the younger Catholics as he is not as
easy going as Pope John Paul was. My niece went to Rome to see the Pope for
World Youth Day a couple of years ago. My daughter and her also went to
Canada to see the Pope. My family is not overly religious by any sense, and
I am not a fan of organized religion at all, but my daughter believes in
God. She believes in being good. She is very active in two parish youth
groups and is a leader for the parish CHRP group. She is also pro-choice
and does not go to church every Sunday, but she goes most and because she
wants to attend. Pope John Paul was great with the young Catholics. Pope
Benedict is a hard liner who I hope will not dismantle everything that Pope
John Paul did to help bring the world youth back into the Church in some way
shape or form. With the shape of many Catholic parishes at least in my
area, with many parishes closing due to lack of participation, keeping the
young people involved is the only way I see that it will survive.
Maureen
"djgordon" <danigordon@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> The news said there are some concerns about that.
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> Dani
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> "Gisele" <Gdubson@aol.com> wrote in message
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| http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/documentaries/profile/
A quick read of the above tells me he "ain't what American Catholic
want." I don't think many American Catholics pay much attention to the
Pope anyhow. (Checking the sky carefully for dark clouds and lightning
bolts!!)
Neal
Judity wrote:
> ((All I know about him is that an archbishop they were interviewing said he
> was very warm and kindhearted and always was willing to drop everything to
> help someone. Isn't that any person who is a follower of God? ))
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> Dani, that's part of what I believe. However, even though I'm not one for
> organized religions, I would think its leader should be more in touch with a
> large portion of its members. It probably will be too hard, though, for
> such an elderly person to change how he looks at life.
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> Judity
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| bsptss@aol.com 2005-04-19, 10:51 pm |
| Dani,
I wasn't addressing the remark "at" you, it was just in response to the
remaks of the archbishop you posted. I mean what else are they going to
say about him, he's now the leader of the Catholic Church. In the next
few days, I'm sure we will know a lot more about him, but so far I'm
certainly not impressed and the more I think about it, the most
disgusted I get. If this is just a "temporary pope" that totally
diminishs the role of pope by the church itself.
Barbara
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| Bob Rahe 2005-04-19, 10:51 pm |
| In article <UbGdncc1r-qF2_jfRVn-hQ@comcast.com>,
Maureen Galvin <maureen.galvin@comcast.dot.net> wrote:
>I fear a big problem with come with the younger Catholics as he is not as
>easy going as Pope John Paul was. My niece went to Rome to see the Pope for
....
>wants to attend. Pope John Paul was great with the young Catholics. Pope
>Benedict is a hard liner who I hope will not dismantle everything that Pope
>John Paul did to help bring the world youth back into the Church in some way
....
Which is an interesting (and rather common perception) since he was
J.Paul's head theologian and theological advisor for 20 years. You'd
think they were probably on the same wavelength. Maybe it was the
different WAYs they did things...
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| RaeMorrill 2005-04-19, 10:51 pm |
| Born in 1927? Cripes he's alnmost 80 already. Probably be a repeat of
what happened in 1978 and they had to vote in a new one in a couple of
months
djgordon wrote:
> Pope Benedict XVI. He's from Germany, born in 1927, Cardinal Joseph
> Ratzinger. So there you have it. Not to blaspheme or be rude but he looks
> like a badger.
>
> Dani
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> "djgordon" <danigordon@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:F_99e.85290$vL3.68971@bignews4.bellsouth.net...
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| Gisele 2005-04-19, 10:51 pm |
| I have read some commentary that there was a feeling that JP II had
been Pope for too long, so whoever really runs the show wants to have a
short papacy for whatever reason. After this gentleman, who knows? A
black Pope certainly would have been way cool!
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| Tallulah 2005-04-19, 10:51 pm |
| I understand the feeling - my main computer has all but stuck its legs
in the air and died today - makes me wonder if that Piggly Wiggly joke
had anything to do with it. 
Neal wrote:
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcfour/documentaries/profile/
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> (Checking the sky carefully for dark clouds and lightning
> bolts!!)
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> Neal
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| haggis 2005-04-19, 10:51 pm |
| Judity wrote:
> ((Pope Benedict XVI. He's from Germany, born in 1927, Cardinal Joseph
> Ratzinger. So there you have it. Not to blaspheme or be rude but he looks
> like a badger.))
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> Dani, from what I've heard on TV this morning, he's still not the one to
> bring the church into the 21st century. It struck me the other day that of
> the 115 cardinals who voted for this new pope, not one was a woman.
I thought the badger comment was hysterical--but then I saw the one
about how no women voted for the guy. . . My overly Catholic family
would probably be appalled at my lack of with-it-ness, but I don't
believe there ARE any women voting. Women can't be priests, ergo cannot
be cardinals, bishops, etc. I assume that was to deny us the vote, as
well. The whole celibacy/misogyny thing was strictly a medieval
concoction anyway--no married priests meant no children to inherit their
property, and thus the church could glom onto everything in perpetuity
(makes more sense to have a fortune buried under the Vatican, right?)
I read a book about 15 years ago by a guy who claimed to have been given
messages by "angels" about the future. They kept coming true, but he
said people would start to believe him when his pope predictions were
proven true--he said that after JP II, there would be only 3 more popes,
and then ?? (Wasn't clear on if that meant the end of the church, the
world, if an asteroid was going to smash us to smithereens then, so who
knows. . .) I guess the odds are good we'll be around to see if this
pans out, if they keep picking guys with such a limited shelf life. <G>
jeanne
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| Judity 2005-04-20, 8:49 am |
| ((I thought the badger comment was hysterical--but then I saw the one
about how no women voted for the guy. . . My overly Catholic family
would probably be appalled at my lack of with-it-ness, but I don't
believe there ARE any women voting. ))
That was my point. I hope you didn't mean you thought this was funny.
Judity
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| haggis 2005-04-20, 11:48 am |
| Judity wrote:
> ((I thought the badger comment was hysterical--but then I saw the one
> about how no women voted for the guy. . . My overly Catholic family
> would probably be appalled at my lack of with-it-ness, but I don't
> believe there ARE any women voting. ))
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> That was my point. I hope you didn't mean you thought this was funny.
Either you were too deadpan or I was suffering a complete brain fart.
I've been working 10- to 11-hour shifts this week, so it could well have
been me.
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