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djgordon

2005-04-11, 5:30 pm

Well, we left Wednesday morning to head out to Branson and visit two of my
sisters. We got back yesterday evening to find the worst mess possible I
think.

We had put the dogs (two Jack Russells) in our attached garage, closed the
garage door, but I had left the inner garage door open to the utility room
so they could also come into there to sleep and eat, but closed off the
sliding door between the kitchen and utility room so they couldn't get into
the rest of the house. Well, when we got here I got out expecting to hear
the dogs throwing a fit to get out and be loved on. My mom came over every
day to let them run and check on things, but they are people dogs for sure.
Anyway, I opened the garage door, no dogs came running. I walked towards the
inner door and still no dogs. As I got to the front of the garage I saw they
had decided they wanted in so badly that they clawed through a layer of
paneling, a layer of blackboard insulation, regular insulation, and then
through the indoor sheetrock and wallpaper into the living room on the other
side. I was in total shock that they would have gone through so much to get
in, especially when mom had come over here every day and they were fine, and
waited until that last 24 hours to do it. I love my animals, but with all
the traveling we want to do in the future I know that once the ones we have
have left this earth then I won't have anymore. Grrr.

Dani


Jeannie Wilson

2005-04-11, 5:30 pm

"djgordon" <danigordon@bellsouth.net> wrote here for all to
seenews:a%v6e.50969$f%4.44808@bignews1.bellsouth.net:

> Well, we left Wednesday morning to head out to Branson and visit two
> of my sisters. We got back yesterday evening to find the worst mess
> possible I think.
>
> We had put the dogs (two Jack Russells) in our attached garage, closed
> the garage door, but I had left the inner garage door open to the
> utility room so they could also come into there to sleep and eat, but
> closed off the sliding door between the kitchen and utility room so
> they couldn't get into the rest of the house. Well, when we got here I
> got out expecting to hear the dogs throwing a fit to get out and be
> loved on. My mom came over every day to let them run and check on
> things, but they are people dogs for sure. Anyway, I opened the garage
> door, no dogs came running. I walked towards the inner door and still
> no dogs. As I got to the front of the garage I saw they had decided
> they wanted in so badly that they clawed through a layer of paneling,
> a layer of blackboard insulation, regular insulation, and then through
> the indoor sheetrock and wallpaper into the living room on the other
> side. I was in total shock that they would have gone through so much
> to get in, especially when mom had come over here every day and they
> were fine, and waited until that last 24 hours to do it. I love my
> animals, but with all the traveling we want to do in the future I know
> that once the ones we have have left this earth then I won't have
> anymore. Grrr.
>
> Dani
>
>
>


This is not the first "case" I have heard of Jack Russells digging their
way into your house. Unfortunately, they are diggers by nature and are
very persistent but they also thrive on personal interaction and can be
downright destructive in search of that interaction. Sorry to hear that
they messed up your house, though. Maybe next time you are gone give
boarding them a try. There are some very good places to board animals
around here and they spend a lot of time with your dogs, don't just leave
them in a kennel with food and water. Maybe you should look into that
since you said you travel a good bit.
Donna

2005-04-11, 5:30 pm

"djgordon" <danigordon@bellsouth.net> wrote in
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> . I love my animals, but with all
> the traveling we want to do in the future I know that once the ones we
> have have left this earth then I won't have anymore


And that is why we board our dog

Our other GS dog tried to claw her way out of a room and tore a good part
of the sheetrock up (we were at work, many years ago). Dogs will do what
dogs do.

Sorry about your welcome home ;-x

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Donna

kathycarp

2005-04-11, 5:30 pm

Cats will also dig. Ours have dug up carpeting, and linoleum, when a door
accidentally was shut, and they were in the room. We are still repairing all
of the damage our animals did to our house, and we will not have more pets,
since we travel too, and I'm tired of raising kids and animals.

--
Kathy
www.ambergriscaye.com/villadelsol
"Donna" <donna@exitstageleftcroakerwoods.com> wrote in message
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> "djgordon" <danigordon@bellsouth.net> wrote in
> news:a%v6e.50969$f%4.44808@bignews1.bellsouth.net:
>
>
> And that is why we board our dog
>
> Our other GS dog tried to claw her way out of a room and tore a good part
> of the sheetrock up (we were at work, many years ago). Dogs will do what
> dogs do.
>
> Sorry about your welcome home ;-x
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Donna
>



djgordon

2005-04-11, 5:30 pm

Boarding, a wonderful suggestion, closest one to us is 2-3 hours away. We
are very, very rural. Next time we'll go back to doing what we usually do
and putting them in the detached garage which is concrete block and brick.

Dani

"Donna" <donna@exitstageleftcroakerwoods.com> wrote in message
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> "djgordon" <danigordon@bellsouth.net> wrote in
> news:a%v6e.50969$f%4.44808@bignews1.bellsouth.net:
>
>
> And that is why we board our dog
>
> Our other GS dog tried to claw her way out of a room and tore a good part
> of the sheetrock up (we were at work, many years ago). Dogs will do what
> dogs do.
>
> Sorry about your welcome home ;-x
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Donna
>



Jeannie Wilson

2005-04-11, 5:30 pm

Donna <donna@exitstageleftcroakerwoods.com> wrote here for all to
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> "djgordon" <danigordon@bellsouth.net> wrote in
> news:a%v6e.50969$f%4.44808@bignews1.bellsouth.net:
>
>
> And that is why we board our dog
>
> Our other GS dog tried to claw her way out of a room and tore a good
> part of the sheetrock up (we were at work, many years ago). Dogs will
> do what dogs do.
>
> Sorry about your welcome home ;-x
>


Dani - you live near or in Paducah, right (or do I have you mixed up with
someone else? I thought I remembered you saying Paducah was about 30
minutes or so away from you. Anyway, I did a google on pet boarding
Paducah Kentucky for you. Here's the link that might be helpful to you in
the future so your little fur babies don't tear up your house!!

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&...ky+dog+boarding
Jeannie Wilson

2005-04-11, 5:30 pm

"djgordon" <danigordon@bellsouth.net> wrote here for all to
seenews:hCx6e.51035$f%4.42623@bignews1.bellsouth.net:

> Boarding, a wonderful suggestion, closest one to us is 2-3 hours away.
> We are very, very rural. Next time we'll go back to doing what we
> usually do and putting them in the detached garage which is concrete
> block and brick.


Oh, well then I guess you either moved or I was confused about you being
about 30 minutes away from Paducah. Disregard the previous post.
RaeMorrill

2005-04-11, 5:30 pm

OMG. That's amazing and horrible. However, I don't think most dogs would
go that far. Wonder if homeowner's covers this ?


djgordon wrote:
> Well, we left Wednesday morning to head out to Branson and visit two of my
> sisters. We got back yesterday evening to find the worst mess possible I
> think.
>
> We had put the dogs (two Jack Russells) in our attached garage, closed the
> garage door, but I had left the inner garage door open to the utility room
> so they could also come into there to sleep and eat, but closed off the
> sliding door between the kitchen and utility room so they couldn't get into
> the rest of the house. Well, when we got here I got out expecting to hear
> the dogs throwing a fit to get out and be loved on. My mom came over every
> day to let them run and check on things, but they are people dogs for sure.
> Anyway, I opened the garage door, no dogs came running. I walked towards the
> inner door and still no dogs. As I got to the front of the garage I saw they
> had decided they wanted in so badly that they clawed through a layer of
> paneling, a layer of blackboard insulation, regular insulation, and then
> through the indoor sheetrock and wallpaper into the living room on the other
> side. I was in total shock that they would have gone through so much to get
> in, especially when mom had come over here every day and they were fine, and
> waited until that last 24 hours to do it. I love my animals, but with all
> the traveling we want to do in the future I know that once the ones we have
> have left this earth then I won't have anymore. Grrr.
>
> Dani
>
>

2005-04-11, 5:30 pm

OMG. Been there, only I was just gone to the grocery store or somewhere.
Herschel was not really supposed to be in the bathroom but he slipped in
there and got a drink now and again. Trouble is, he shut himself in there.
Dug through the hollow core door just barely stopping short of going
completely through it.

Then there was the dog we had over to breed with him, who became so
hysterical at being left inside while I walked to the shop that she clawed
through the sheetrock next to the front door, all the way through insulation
and 2x4's.

Don't you want to just get them by the ears and look them in the eye and say
"What made you think you could get away with this?????"


"djgordon" <danigordon@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:a%v6e.50969$f%4.44808@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
> Well, we left Wednesday morning to head out to Branson and visit two of my
> sisters. We got back yesterday evening to find the worst mess possible I
> think.
>
> We had put the dogs (two Jack Russells) in our attached garage, closed the
> garage door, but I had left the inner garage door open to the utility room
> so they could also come into there to sleep and eat, but closed off the
> sliding door between the kitchen and utility room so they couldn't get
> into
> the rest of the house. Well, when we got here I got out expecting to hear
> the dogs throwing a fit to get out and be loved on. My mom came over every
> day to let them run and check on things, but they are people dogs for
> sure.
> Anyway, I opened the garage door, no dogs came running. I walked towards
> the
> inner door and still no dogs. As I got to the front of the garage I saw
> they
> had decided they wanted in so badly that they clawed through a layer of
> paneling, a layer of blackboard insulation, regular insulation, and then
> through the indoor sheetrock and wallpaper into the living room on the
> other
> side. I was in total shock that they would have gone through so much to
> get
> in, especially when mom had come over here every day and they were fine,
> and
> waited until that last 24 hours to do it. I love my animals, but with all
> the traveling we want to do in the future I know that once the ones we
> have
> have left this earth then I won't have anymore. Grrr.
>
> Dani
>
>



RaeMorrill

2005-04-11, 5:30 pm

That should slow them down a bit! Our prior dogs were outdoor and fine
with having pet sitter come. Even the one who was loose never ran off
looking for us. I'd hate to leave this dog in a kennel as I'm rather
sure she wouldn't eat. Fortunately, she's good inside and we only travel
to our house in VA where she can stay. If we have to go visit folks,
we'll have to find a motel that allows dogs.

djgordon wrote:
> Boarding, a wonderful suggestion, closest one to us is 2-3 hours away. We
> are very, very rural. Next time we'll go back to doing what we usually do
> and putting them in the detached garage which is concrete block and brick.
>
> Dani
>
> "Donna" <donna@exitstageleftcroakerwoods.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns96357691ECF10donnacroakerwoodscom@68.1.17.6...
>
>
>
>

kathycarp

2005-04-11, 5:30 pm

Not sure about all policies, but ours excludes pet damage. I know someone
who lied about the damage her dogs caused to her carpet (said it happened
some other way), and had the whole thing replaced. That's not right.

--
Kathy
www.ambergriscaye.com/villadelsol
"RaeMorrill" <RaeMorrill@aol.com> wrote in message
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> OMG. That's amazing and horrible. However, I don't think most dogs would
> go that far. Wonder if homeowner's covers this ?
>
>
> djgordon wrote:

djgordon

2005-04-11, 5:30 pm

Didn't even consider it. Two pieces of paneling, one piece of sheetrock is
all we needed to fix it. Had insulation and black board, tape, and mud, and
leftover wallpaper, so it didn't come out to much, just until it's fixed I
almost cry just walking out into the garage. I'm staggered at what lengths
they went to.

Dani

"RaeMorrill" <RaeMorrill@aol.com> wrote in message
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> OMG. That's amazing and horrible. However, I don't think most dogs would
> go that far. Wonder if homeowner's covers this ?
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Judity

2005-04-11, 5:30 pm

And I thought Boo Belle was naughty for using the front room's wooden window
frame as her personal scratching post.

Judity



djgordon

2005-04-11, 5:30 pm

I just ignored them all night and wouldn't talk to them. Keith, though,
before he put up a temporary block kept putting them outside saying I don't
want you in my house. Nothing so funny as him having to do it 100 times in a
row since they just kept coming around to their new doggy door and coming
right back in. LOL

dani

<blupencl@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> OMG. Been there, only I was just gone to the grocery store or somewhere.
> Herschel was not really supposed to be in the bathroom but he slipped in
> there and got a drink now and again. Trouble is, he shut himself in there.
> Dug through the hollow core door just barely stopping short of going
> completely through it.
>
> Then there was the dog we had over to breed with him, who became so
> hysterical at being left inside while I walked to the shop that she clawed
> through the sheetrock next to the front door, all the way through

insulation
> and 2x4's.
>
> Don't you want to just get them by the ears and look them in the eye and

say
> "What made you think you could get away with this?????"
>
>
> "djgordon" <danigordon@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:a%v6e.50969$f%4.44808@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
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RaeMorrill

2005-04-11, 5:30 pm

Another solution could be to get some chain link fencing for the outside
of the wall next time. That should stop them!

djgordon wrote:
> Didn't even consider it. Two pieces of paneling, one piece of sheetrock is
> all we needed to fix it. Had insulation and black board, tape, and mud, and
> leftover wallpaper, so it didn't come out to much, just until it's fixed I
> almost cry just walking out into the garage. I'm staggered at what lengths
> they went to.
>
> Dani
>
> "RaeMorrill" <RaeMorrill@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:s0z6e.1640$%v6.623@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
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Ed Chait

2005-04-11, 5:30 pm


"djgordon" <danigordon@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> Didn't even consider it. Two pieces of paneling, one piece of sheetrock is
> all we needed to fix it. Had insulation and black board, tape, and mud,
> and
> leftover wallpaper, so it didn't come out to much, just until it's fixed I
> almost cry just walking out into the garage. I'm staggered at what lengths
> they went to.
>
> Dani
>



Jack Russell terriers are not your average dog, but then you are probably
acutely aware of this.

A lot of people get them and are not completely aware of their intensity,
even among terriers.

Sometimes when you leave two of them alone, you come home to only one live
dog, because they will get in a fight over a toy or a ball.

I love terriers, but most JR's are just completely nuts.

ed


djgordon

2005-04-11, 5:30 pm

They're not too bad. Everyone in my family has one and my aunt breeds and
raises them. The worst thing I usually deal with is digging up my yard
getting the moles. We have left them plenty of times before and not had
anything like this happen. I would have a Jack over my cousin's Chows and my
MIL's chihuahua any day....mine are iffey around kids and strangers but
nothing like those two breeds that I've been around.

Dani

"Ed Chait" <edchait4remove@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> "djgordon" <danigordon@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> acutely aware of this.
>
> A lot of people get them and are not completely aware of their intensity,
> even among terriers.
>
> Sometimes when you leave two of them alone, you come home to only one live
> dog, because they will get in a fight over a toy or a ball.
>
> I love terriers, but most JR's are just completely nuts.
>
> ed
>
>



Donna

2005-04-12, 11:15 am

"djgordon" <danigordon@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:hCx6e.51035$f%4.42623@bignews1.bellsouth.net:

> Boarding, a wonderful suggestion, closest one to us is 2-3 hours away.
> We are very, very rural. Next time we'll go back to doing what we
> usually do and putting them in the detached garage which is concrete
> block and brick.
>
> Dani
>


I board at the vet. They take great care of her

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Donna

kathycarp

2005-04-12, 11:15 am

My BIL has a JR. I'd just as soon have a rabid squirrel in my house than
that dog. He kept getting out and running away so they put one of those
"boundary" shock collar things on him. He figured out that if he'd just
"grit his teeth and bear it" he could run right through the boundary and
keep on flying down the road. I definitely don't have the energy to have a
dog like that.

--
Kathy
www.ambergriscaye.com/villadelsol
"djgordon" <danigordon@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> They're not too bad. Everyone in my family has one and my aunt breeds and
> raises them. The worst thing I usually deal with is digging up my yard
> getting the moles. We have left them plenty of times before and not had
> anything like this happen. I would have a Jack over my cousin's Chows and
> my
> MIL's chihuahua any day....mine are iffey around kids and strangers but
> nothing like those two breeds that I've been around.
>
> Dani
>
> "Ed Chait" <edchait4remove@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> I
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Anne Vasquez

2005-04-12, 11:15 am

Those have to be the most energetic dogs I've ever seen (well, there was
some kind of spaniel-type dog that my BIL dog had; just watching him
bounce made me nuts inside of 10 minutes!)

Anne


kathycarp wrote:

> My BIL has a JR. I'd just as soon have a rabid squirrel in my house than
> that dog. He kept getting out and running away so they put one of those
> "boundary" shock collar things on him. He figured out that if he'd just
> "grit his teeth and bear it" he could run right through the boundary and
> keep on flying down the road. I definitely don't have the energy to have a
> dog like that.
>

Ed Chait

2005-04-12, 11:15 am


"Anne Vasquez" <annevasquez@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Those have to be the most energetic dogs I've ever seen (well, there was
> some kind of spaniel-type dog that my BIL dog had; just watching him
> bounce made me nuts inside of 10 minutes!)
>
> Anne
>
>
> kathycarp wrote:
>


Yeah, I was a bit amused by Dani's comment that "they are not that bad."

Not that bad compared to what? A tornado? A wolverine? A tasmanian devil?

ed


Sandi

2005-04-12, 11:15 am

> > Those have to be the most energetic dogs I've ever seen (well, there was
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> Yeah, I was a bit amused by Dani's comment that "they are not that bad."
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> Not that bad compared to what? A tornado? A wolverine? A tasmanian

devil?
>
> ed
>

No kidding. My brother's JR turned the porn channel on full blast in his
apartment by stepping on the remote while my brother was working the night
shift. He found a new home shortly thereafter.

Sandi


Phyllis

2005-04-12, 11:16 am

Upon retirement, my sister opened a puppy play school. Her very first
customer was a boarder (which she hadn't planned on). Said she didn't
think she'd be doing that again.

Donna wrote:
> "djgordon" <danigordon@bellsouth.net> wrote in
> news:hCx6e.51035$f%4.42623@bignews1.bellsouth.net:
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>
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> I board at the vet. They take great care of her
>


kathycarp

2005-04-12, 11:16 am


Yeah, I was a bit amused by Dani's comment that "they are not that bad."

Not that bad compared to what? A tornado? A wolverine? A tasmanian devil?

ed

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Well, in all fairness, they got another JR and this one's energy level is
about 1/10 the first one.

--
Kathy
www.ambergriscaye.com/villadelsol
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>
> Yeah, I was a bit amused by Dani's comment that "they are not that bad."
>
> Not that bad compared to what? A tornado? A wolverine? A tasmanian
> devil?
>
> ed
>



Anne Vasquez

2005-04-12, 11:16 am

LOL! Now I can really picture Dani's dogs at work on her garage wall -
two Tasmanian devils, whirling and clawing their way through!

Anne


Ed Chait wrote:
> "
>
> Yeah, I was a bit amused by Dani's comment that "they are not that bad."
>
> Not that bad compared to what? A tornado? A wolverine? A tasmanian devil?
>
> ed
>
>

JulieW8

2005-04-12, 11:16 am

On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 09:17:51 -0700, "kathycarp"
<kathycarp@comcastprivacy.net> gave thanks and said:

>Cats will also dig. Ours have dug up carpeting, and linoleum, when a door
>accidentally was shut, and they were in the room. We are still repairing all
>of the damage our animals did to our house, and we will not have more pets,
>since we travel too, and I'm tired of raising kids and animals.


Amen to that.

We built a "cat run" and I decided to heck with encouraging them to go
out there - I tossed them out there and closed the door behind them
and took back my house.

I felt sorry for them for about two seconds then I realized they don't
do anything different out there in "their" space than they did in here
in MY space - and this way they aren't messing up my space.

I let them out during the day when they are reasonably safe from
coyotes and you know what? After running around the yard for awhile,
they come back to the run and go to sleep. Sometimes I let them in my
room - where they sleep.



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Susan Mitchell

2005-04-13, 4:23 pm

That's why I'm a cat person! We had a german shepherd and I swear they are
the best! Ours was a sweetheart and I love them. Our neighbor had a
Doberman (female) and I learned to love them too. They are amazing dogs. I
agree dogs are all about how they are raised and bred. Our shepherd looked
purebred but was not. His mom was 1/4 collie so he was a real milk toast.
He had a horrendous bark but if you said Hi boy he would wet himself he
would get so excited!!! He did hate leather bags, however. He would go
nuts barking at them and snapping at them! What was funny about our
shepherd is my declawed cat (I will never do that again!!) knocked him XXX
over tea kettle when he was a fat little puppy and he was afraid of her the
rest of his life, even when he weighed 110 pounds!! If she walked by him he
would start the german shepherd whine!!! I smile just thinking about him,
he was the best dog. Almost makes me want one again. I just feel dogs are
so much more work than cats. Besides that dang, snowshoe siamese I have is
dang near a dog!

--
Sue -- Firefighter mom -- Still Rabid UW Dawg Fan!
(to reply send to medlawtrans@comcast.net)
"djgordon" <danigordon@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> Well, we left Wednesday morning to head out to Branson and visit two of my
> sisters. We got back yesterday evening to find the worst mess possible I
> think.
>
> We had put the dogs (two Jack Russells) in our attached garage, closed the
> garage door, but I had left the inner garage door open to the utility room
> so they could also come into there to sleep and eat, but closed off the
> sliding door between the kitchen and utility room so they couldn't get

into
> the rest of the house. Well, when we got here I got out expecting to hear
> the dogs throwing a fit to get out and be loved on. My mom came over every
> day to let them run and check on things, but they are people dogs for

sure.
> Anyway, I opened the garage door, no dogs came running. I walked towards

the
> inner door and still no dogs. As I got to the front of the garage I saw

they
> had decided they wanted in so badly that they clawed through a layer of
> paneling, a layer of blackboard insulation, regular insulation, and then
> through the indoor sheetrock and wallpaper into the living room on the

other
> side. I was in total shock that they would have gone through so much to

get
> in, especially when mom had come over here every day and they were fine,

and
> waited until that last 24 hours to do it. I love my animals, but with all
> the traveling we want to do in the future I know that once the ones we

have
> have left this earth then I won't have anymore. Grrr.
>
> Dani
>
>



Jeannie Wilson

2005-04-13, 4:23 pm

"Susan Mitchell" <medlawtrans@comcast.net> wrote here for all to
seenews:SK6dnTO6VdwIK8HfRVn-hw@comcast.com:

> If she walked by him he
> would start the german shepherd whine!!!


Mine does that when my two puppies walk by him or get close to him. He is
so sweet with them but when he's had enough,he goes upstairs and hides out
in our bathroom. That was fine until yesterday when they discovered they
could climb the stairs. I heard him doing that whine in our bathroom and
ran in there thinking he had locked himself in our closet or something but
the puppies were just sitting in there looking at him. He's not afraid of
them but I do think he is worried that he will hurt them. He is very
careful about not letting them "get under his feet" and very careful when
he is playing with them by rolling them around in the grass with his nose.
Bambi C.

2005-04-13, 4:23 pm

Puppies -- plural??? When did you get a second one? Was it a case of
"they're small, so I'll take two"? lol

I saw a litter of nine adorable, six-week-old Australian Shepherd puppies
yesterday. They kept licking my ankles, pulling at my pant legs, and
tumbling all over each other to get me to pet them. So, so cute!!! They
really made me smile.

Bambi C.

"Jeannie Wilson" <jwilson421@comcastspamkills.net> wrote in message
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> "Susan Mitchell" <medlawtrans@comcast.net> wrote here for all to
> seenews:SK6dnTO6VdwIK8HfRVn-hw@comcast.com:
>
>
> Mine does that when my two puppies walk by him or get close to him. He is
> so sweet with them but when he's had enough,he goes upstairs and hides out
> in our bathroom. That was fine until yesterday when they discovered they
> could climb the stairs. I heard him doing that whine in our bathroom and
> ran in there thinking he had locked himself in our closet or something but
> the puppies were just sitting in there looking at him. He's not afraid of
> them but I do think he is worried that he will hurt them. He is very
> careful about not letting them "get under his feet" and very careful when
> he is playing with them by rolling them around in the grass with his nose.



Jeannie Wilson

2005-04-13, 4:23 pm

"Bambi C." <blcc324@epix.net> wrote here for all to
seenews:rCb7e.989$4a.91749@news1.epix.net:

> Puppies -- plural??? When did you get a second one? Was it a case of
> "they're small, so I'll take two"? lol
>
> I saw a litter of nine adorable, six-week-old Australian Shepherd
> puppies yesterday. They kept licking my ankles, pulling at my pant
> legs, and tumbling all over each other to get me to pet them. So, so
> cute!!! They really made me smile.
>
> Bambi C.
>



Ohhh..I didn't come back and say I ended up with another one? Well, we got
Bruiser on Wednesday and we met the original owner, the pup's mom and the
other puppy at the vet for their 2nd puppy checkup. The human owner was
going out of town for five days and asked if I would mind babysitting the
remaining puppy. Of course not, I said. After all, Bruiser had woken me
up every two hours the night before so I figured he'd sleep better with his
sister there. Well, we hadn't made it 2 miles down the road and she had
snuggled up in the seat with my son and he had named her Alice. She was
originally going to go to my grandmother but since they are getting ready
to build a house down the street from us with my parents we decided that it
would be easier for us to keep her while they were in the "puppy" stage and
then when their house was built. Sooooo.....the land is cleared and that's
about it and now I have two puppies. Good news is, though, that they have
someone to play with all the time and sleep in the downstairs bathroom
together. I can leave them in the bathroom with their beds, food, water
and each other and get sleep all night!! They are so much fun to watch and
very fun to have around.
Jeannie Wilson

2005-04-14, 8:29 am

"Bambi C." <blcc324@epix.net> wrote here for all to
seenews:_Qc7e.990$4a.92121@news1.epix.net:

> Bruiser and Alice, sounds like a cute pair. You'll have to post some
> pictures for us! You don't REALLY think that one of them will go to
> your grandparents, do you? ;-)
>
> Bambi C.



Probably not! It will be close to Christmas before the house is built and
ready to move in, so I imagine then it will be just easier for Alice to
stay here -since she'll already be comfortable and we will already be
attached to her! LOL!! I can read between the lines on this one.

Susan Mitchell

2005-04-14, 8:29 am

When we had our shepherd we lived on a farm and had two other cats beside my
older tabby. They each had babies and Pax used to bath the babies and was
so gentle and loved being "dad". Those mean mommies wouldn't let my "old
maid" kitty near their babies, however.

--
Sue -- Firefighter mom -- Still Rabid UW Dawg Fan!
(to reply send to medlawtrans@comcast.net)
"Jeannie Wilson" <jwilson421@comcastspamkills.net> wrote in message
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> "Susan Mitchell" <medlawtrans@comcast.net> wrote here for all to
> seenews:SK6dnTO6VdwIK8HfRVn-hw@comcast.com:
>
>
> Mine does that when my two puppies walk by him or get close to him. He is
> so sweet with them but when he's had enough,he goes upstairs and hides out
> in our bathroom. That was fine until yesterday when they discovered they
> could climb the stairs. I heard him doing that whine in our bathroom and
> ran in there thinking he had locked himself in our closet or something but
> the puppies were just sitting in there looking at him. He's not afraid of
> them but I do think he is worried that he will hurt them. He is very
> careful about not letting them "get under his feet" and very careful when
> he is playing with them by rolling them around in the grass with his nose.



Tallulah

2005-04-14, 8:29 am

I'm having quite a chuckle picturing that. But I do believe it. I'm
still amazed at the damage a lab's tail can do in a house (and the
amount of energy they have). I know after about 2 to 3 years, she'll
settle down, but mine is just full of explosive energy. There's not a
mean bone in her body, but she gets in SO much trouble! It's hard to
discipline her because she is SO loveable. If I yell at her she stands
on her hind haunches, puts her paws on my shoulders like we're going to
ballroom dance, and then she's giving me kisses while I try not to
laugh. If I continue to speak sternly at her and just smirk I consider
it a "win."

I have tried to talk my husband into opening a doggy day care/boarding
facility, but the thought of pit bulls and rottweilers (and chihuahuas)
are enough to make that one of those dreams you really don't want to
come true.

Anne Vasquez

2005-04-14, 8:29 am

I've almost always had small dogs in pairs. As long as they get along,
two really aren't any more trouble than one. Well, twice the vet bills,
I guess, but they keep each other company.

Anne


Jeannie Wilson wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Probably not! It will be close to Christmas before the house is built and
> ready to move in, so I imagine then it will be just easier for Alice to
> stay here -since she'll already be comfortable and we will already be
> attached to her! LOL!! I can read between the lines on this one.
>

Maureen Galvin

2005-04-14, 8:29 am


"Tallulah" <tallulahbankrupt@yahoo.com> wrote in message
..968952.314930@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
> I'm having quite a chuckle picturing that. But I do believe it. I'm
> still amazed at the damage a lab's tail can do in a house (and the amount
> of energy they have). I know after about 2 to 3 years, she'll settle
> down, but mine is just full of explosive energy. There's not a mean bone
> in her body, but she gets in SO much trouble! It's hard to discipline her
> because she is SO loveable. If I yell at her she stands on her hind
> haunches, puts her paws on my shoulders like we're going to ballroom
> dance, and then she's giving me kisses while I try not to laugh. If I
> continue to speak sternly at her and just smirk I consider it a "win."
>


Hate to burst your bubble, but we have had labs my entire life (6 in total)
and are on lab #2 in our 20 year marriage. The lab does not settle down
until around age 8. Until then they are all full of puppy energy!!

And yes their tails are dangerously powerful. Our first lab together would
get so excited when we would come home from work that he would stand by the
door and wag and wag and wag from the time he heard our car coming down the
block until we came in. Unfortunately, there was a wall where he would wag
his tail and he kept hitting the corner of the wall. We came home one day
and it looked like a murder scene. He had split his tail open wagging it
against the corner and there were blood splatters everywhere!! The poor
thing. We had only been in the house a couple of months and needed to paint
because blood on flat white paint just doesnt come off ;)

The one we have now had her tail shut in an entry door by my youngest
daughter when they were both about 3. The dog always used the dog door, but
for some reason she decided to slip through the door with my daughter. My
daughter didn't realize that the dog was behind her and automatically
slammed the door shut!! Oh, the howls!! We came racing into the room only
to see the tip of the dogs tail visible with my daughter on the other end
trying to yank the poor dog's tail out the other end!! What a good dog too.
She had my daughter's hand in her mouth, I guess trying to get across to her
that she shouldn't pull any more and yet never left a mark on her hand.
I'll never have anything but a lab in this house after that.

Maureen


RaeMorrill

2005-04-14, 8:29 am

The prior German shep we had, Max, we always suspected was a lab mix.
His tail was also a dangerous weapon and he didn't slow down much at all
until he was maybe 12. Died at around 14, but even a few days before he
passed away, his eyes still shown with happiness trying to fetch a
stick. Turn him loose and it was crash, bang, boom, between his 90+
pounds and the tail wagging like a billy club

Maureen Galvin wrote:
> "Tallulah" <tallulahbankrupt@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> .968952.314930@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> Hate to burst your bubble, but we have had labs my entire life (6 in total)
> and are on lab #2 in our 20 year marriage. The lab does not settle down
> until around age 8. Until then they are all full of puppy energy!!
>
> And yes their tails are dangerously powerful. Our first lab together would
> get so excited when we would come home from work that he would stand by the
> door and wag and wag and wag from the time he heard our car coming down the
> block until we came in. Unfortunately, there was a wall where he would wag
> his tail and he kept hitting the corner of the wall. We came home one day
> and it looked like a murder scene. He had split his tail open wagging it
> against the corner and there were blood splatters everywhere!! The poor
> thing. We had only been in the house a couple of months and needed to paint
> because blood on flat white paint just doesnt come off ;)
>
> The one we have now had her tail shut in an entry door by my youngest
> daughter when they were both about 3. The dog always used the dog door, but
> for some reason she decided to slip through the door with my daughter. My
> daughter didn't realize that the dog was behind her and automatically
> slammed the door shut!! Oh, the howls!! We came racing into the room only
> to see the tip of the dogs tail visible with my daughter on the other end
> trying to yank the poor dog's tail out the other end!! What a good dog too.
> She had my daughter's hand in her mouth, I guess trying to get across to her
> that she shouldn't pull any more and yet never left a mark on her hand.
> I'll never have anything but a lab in this house after that.
>
> Maureen
>
>

Jeannie Wilson

2005-04-14, 8:29 am

Anne Vasquez <annevasquez@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote here for all to
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> I've almost always had small dogs in pairs. As long as they get along,
> two really aren't any more trouble than one. Well, twice the vet bills,
> I guess, but they keep each other company.
>


I was in PetSmart a few weeks ago and the vet that is in there stopped us
in the parking lot to look at the puppies. He really loves the chihuahua
breed and seemed very compassionate towards them. He spent nearly 30
minutes in the parking lot with us talking to us about the breed, _really_
looking at the puppies, etc. I went in there today to talk to him and they
actually have a "wellness maintenance plan" for the puppies that is really
reasonable per month and it includes just about everything except their
Advantage for fleas, which is about 3.75/four months or something like
that. Even with both puppies it is going to come out to about as much as
we pay for our one dog at another vet. There are quite a few people around
here who use the PetSmart/Banfield vet for their pets and have been
extremely pleased at the prices and with the quality of care so I am
considering it - since we are always in there anyway. LOL.

Anyone here have any experience with the PetSmart/Banfield vet care?
Jeannie Wilson

2005-04-14, 8:29 am

"Maureen Galvin" <maureen.galvin@comcast.dot.net> wrote here for all to
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> I guess trying to get across to her
> that she shouldn't pull any more and yet never left a mark on her hand.
> I'll never have anything but a lab in this house after that.


The lab I had growing up was like that. Bear was his name and he was HUGE
but the most loving and gentle dog you could imagine. When the farmers
would cut the fields next to us he would always come home with something in
his mouth for me. Usually it was a field mouse or baby 'possums but he
would often come with baby bunnies that had gotten separated from their
mommy. He never so much as left a mark on them and would deposit them every
so gently into my hand. We started to have to pen him when we went out in
the boat, though. We would come home after an afternoon out in teh boat
and find that he had tried to swim after us and see him sitting in the
marsh a mile or more down the river from our house - justa wagging his tail
waiting on us to pick him up. We either had to pen him or take him with us
after he did that a few times. I felt sorry for him out there with no
fresh water, even though he would just swim to cool off. Of course,
everybody knew Bear so they probably called him up, fed him, loved on him
and gave him some water but we were still afraid to let him try to swim
like that.
Maureen Galvin

2005-04-14, 8:29 am


"Jeannie Wilson" <jwilson421@comcastspamkills.net> wrote in message >
> The lab I had growing up was like that. Bear was his name and he was HUGE
> but the most loving and gentle dog you could imagine. When the farmers
> would cut the fields next to us he would always come home with something
> in his mouth for me. Usually it was a field mouse or baby 'possums but
> he would often come with baby bunnies that had gotten separated from
> their mommy. He never so much as left a mark on them and would deposit
> them every so gently into my hand. We started to have to pen him when we
> went out in the boat, though. We would come home after an afternoon out
> in teh boat and find that he had tried to swim after us and see him
> sitting in the marsh a mile or more down the river from our house - justa
> wagging his tail waiting on us to pick him up. We either had to pen him
> or take him with us after he did that a few times. I felt sorry for him
> out there with no fresh water, even though he would just swim to cool
> off. Of course, everybody knew Bear so they probably called him up, fed
> him, loved on him and gave him some water but we were still afraid to let
> him try to swim like that.>


Gem likes to chase the rabbits in the park across the street when we go for
walks. The first time she got lucky and chested one of the biggest rabbits
there was. This rabbit rolled over and over and over. I was terrified that
Gem was going to go over there and finish the deed. Instead she ran over
and began to cry as the stunned rabbit just laid there. Eventually it
regained it's senses and ran away. Now Gem just chases them to make them
run not getting any closer to them than that.

But we cant take her to the woods any longer and let her run. The guys
would be fishing and she would run into the ponds and lakes retrieving their
lures for them. She was so proud of herself - the fishermen were hysterical
watching her. She's so lucky she never got hooked.

Now she is 10 and has arthritis and seasonal allergies. Believe it or not,
she is allergic to grass and stuff. So she is on Benadryl and steroid
injections to help stop the constant itching and scratching.
Maureen


Barbara Carlson

2005-04-14, 8:29 am

If you think a Lab's tail is a weapon, you should see what my son's Greater
Swiss Mt. Dog's tail can do. They don't keep anything on the coffee table,
or anywhere else at the level the tail can sweep! They told me that is why
they dock Dobey's tails, but we had one Dobey with ears and tail complete,
and his tail wasn't in the same league as far as damage is concerned with
the Greater Swiss! Only trouble was nobody recognized him as a Dobey! We
raised a couple of litters of Dobeys, and did have their tails docked. I
always though it was cruel, but you (the vet, not me!) do it at 2 days old
when the bones are really soft, and it really didn't seem to bother them
much. We never did the ears on any we raised. All the ones we had with
ears cropped were done before we owned them. I still think that is cruel.

Barb C.
"Maureen Galvin" <maureen.galvin@comcast.dot.net> wrote in message
news:tNGdnYpqOJzSNsDfRVn-gw@comcast.com...
>
> "Tallulah" <tallulahbankrupt@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> .968952.314930@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
>
> Hate to burst your bubble, but we have had labs my entire life (6 in
> total) and are on lab #2 in our 20 year marriage. The lab does not settle
> down until around age 8. Until then they are all full of puppy energy!!
>
> And yes their tails are dangerously powerful. Our first lab together
> would get so excited when we would come home from work that he would stand
> by the door and wag and wag and wag from the time he heard our car coming
> down the block until we came in. Unfortunately, there was a wall where he
> would wag his tail and he kept hitting the corner of the wall. We came
> home one day and it looked like a murder scene. He had split his tail
> open wagging it against the corner and there were blood splatters
> everywhere!! The poor thing. We had only been in the house a couple of
> months and needed to paint because blood on flat white paint just doesnt
> come off ;)
>
> The one we have now had her tail shut in an entry door by my youngest
> daughter when they were both about 3. The dog always used the dog door,
> but for some reason she decided to slip through the door with my daughter.
> My daughter didn't realize that the dog was behind her and automatically
> slammed the door shut!! Oh, the howls!! We came racing into the room
> only to see the tip of the dogs tail visible with my daughter on the other
> end trying to yank the poor dog's tail out the other end!! What a good
> dog too. She had my daughter's hand in her mouth, I guess trying to get
> across to her that she shouldn't pull any more and yet never left a mark
> on her hand. I'll never have anything but a lab in this house after that.
>
> Maureen
>



2005-04-14, 8:30 am

Oh I love labs so much. But you're right - they can clear a coffee table
with one tail wag, and personal experience tells me they can demolish the
floor of a small bathroom if they're put in there because the crate seems
cruel.

I never let mine jump, though. I was afraid she'd knock down my grandmother
or one of my kids.

My weimaraner would never kiss me. Never once. He'd kiss other people, but
he knew I didn't like it.

"Tallulah" <tallulahbankrupt@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1113433878.968952.314930@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
> I'm having quite a chuckle picturing that. But I do believe it. I'm
> still amazed at the damage a lab's tail can do in a house (and the
> amount of energy they have). I know after about 2 to 3 years, she'll
> settle down, but mine is just full of explosive energy. There's not a
> mean bone in her body, but she gets in SO much trouble! It's hard to
> discipline her because she is SO loveable. If I yell at her she stands
> on her hind haunches, puts her paws on my shoulders like we're going to
> ballroom dance, and then she's giving me kisses while I try not to
> laugh. If I continue to speak sternly at her and just smirk I consider
> it a "win."
>
> I have tried to talk my husband into opening a doggy day care/boarding
> facility, but the thought of pit bulls and rottweilers (and chihuahuas)
> are enough to make that one of those dreams you really don't want to
> come true.
>



Tallulah

2005-04-17, 6:15 pm

Oh great! Guess I'll put off the remodeling plans then (might as well
wait a few more years then, since the wrecking ball tail will continue
longer than expected).

Poor puppy - and I've come home to a *murder scene* once too, so I know
how horrifying that can be. (Our dog had caught his chest on a barbed
wire fence or something - I saw bloody paw prints up and down the
sidewalk, on the door, and around the house. When I found him I
thought certainly I was going to find a dead dog, but he was alive, and
the vet fixed him up).

That's sweet she never hurt your daughter, even when in that much pain,
and your daughter obviously causing more. THAT is a really good dog.
<G>

Tallulah

2005-04-17, 6:15 pm

Oh great! Guess I'll put off the remodeling plans then (might as well
wait a few more years then, since the wrecking ball tail will continue
longer than expected).

Poor puppy - and I've come home to a *murder scene* once too, so I know
how horrifying that can be. (Our dog had caught his chest on a barbed
wire fence or something - I saw bloody paw prints up and down the
sidewalk, on the door, and around the house. When I found him I
thought certainly I was going to find a dead dog, but he was alive, and
the vet fixed him up).

That's sweet she never hurt your daughter, even when in that much pain,
and your daughter obviously causing more. THAT is a really good dog.
<G>

Tallulah

2005-04-17, 6:15 pm

Ya'll are probably getting so tired of seeing the whole thing quoted,
but I don't see any way to pare it down. I'm using Google Groups beta
if that makes any difference?

Anyway - ours doesn't so much jump, she actually stands up almost and
gently places her arms on my shoulders in a "shall we dance" kind of
way. I have more problems if I'm squatting down and she does that -
then I'm more apt to be bowled over.

I don't mind the kisses - as long as she keeps her tongue away from my
mouth. I don't wear makeup anymore, and always have a container of
those antibacterial wipes from Walmart in about every room (and the
car). What did we do before those were invented?

Tallulah

2005-04-17, 6:15 pm

Ya'll are probably getting so tired of seeing the whole thing quoted,
but I don't see any way to pare it down. I'm using Google Groups beta
if that makes any difference?

Anyway - ours doesn't so much jump, she actually stands up almost and
gently places her arms on my shoulders in a "shall we dance" kind of
way. I have more problems if I'm squatting down and she does that -
then I'm more apt to be bowled over.

I don't mind the kisses - as long as she keeps her tongue away from my
mouth. I don't wear makeup anymore, and always have a container of
those antibacterial wipes from Walmart in about every room (and the
car). What did we do before those were invented?

Judity

2005-04-17, 6:15 pm

((I have more problems if I'm squatting down and she does that -
then I'm more apt to be bowled over. ))

That reminds me of Hoss, a large Saint Bernard that lived on the same street
I did back in South Boston. This dog would see me walking home after work
and would race up the sidewalk to greet me. After a couple of near falls, I
learned to brace myself against a building wall as Hoss finally reached me
to jump up with a slobbery doggy kiss or two.

Hey, he gave better kisses than some of the men I dated. LOL

Judity


Judity

2005-04-17, 6:15 pm

((I have more problems if I'm squatting down and she does that -
then I'm more apt to be bowled over. ))

That reminds me of Hoss, a large Saint Bernard that lived on the same street
I did back in South Boston. This dog would see me walking home after work
and would race up the sidewalk to greet me. After a couple of near falls, I
learned to brace myself against a building wall as Hoss finally reached me
to jump up with a slobbery doggy kiss or two.

Hey, he gave better kisses than some of the men I dated. LOL

Judity


Renegade-MT

2005-04-17, 6:15 pm

It is good to see all the animal lovers in here!
Two years ago I went shopping for anther Boxer, which I had raised
while I was raising kids. Babies and puppies everywhere as I remember
it.

My daughter had purchased a Boxer, in rememberance of her favorite one
while she was growing up. Well, that didnt happen......

I ended up with a mini Schnauzer and I am not a small dog fan.
Max is now 2 yrs and Fritz is a year now.
I loved the one so much and got tired of sharing him with hubby, so we
just had to have another one!!
Now the kids are gone, the "boys" cuddle up on the couch for movies and
popcorn.

The "boys" are actually quite calm and will take all the "puppy kisses"
the grandkids with pass along!! Clean there faces too!!
Tails are bobbed, and they dont shed.....that is the best part.

This weekend we are leaving on our annual fishing trip and have hired a
"babysitter" to come sty with them.....please dont tell on me!! The
last time I left them the younger one shredded the blanket I left for
them to lay on. Soooo no blankets this time.

Does anyone know why they do that kind of stuff?

Renegade-MT

2005-04-17, 6:15 pm

It is good to see all the animal lovers in here!
Two years ago I went shopping for anther Boxer, which I had raised
while I was raising kids. Babies and puppies everywhere as I remember
it.

My daughter had purchased a Boxer, in rememberance of her favorite one
while she was growing up. Well, that didnt happen......

I ended up with a mini Schnauzer and I am not a small dog fan.
Max is now 2 yrs and Fritz is a year now.
I loved the one so much and got tired of sharing him with hubby, so we
just had to have another one!!
Now the kids are gone, the "boys" cuddle up on the couch for movies and
popcorn.

The "boys" are actually quite calm and will take all the "puppy kisses"
the grandkids with pass along!! Clean there faces too!!
Tails are bobbed, and they dont shed.....that is the best part.

This weekend we are leaving on our annual fishing trip and have hired a
"babysitter" to come sty with them.....please dont tell on me!! The
last time I left them the younger one shredded the blanket I left for
them to lay on. Soooo no blankets this time.

Does anyone know why they do that kind of stuff?

djgordon

2005-04-17, 6:15 pm

Separation anxiety the same as a toddler first going off to preschool. Then
again, our Rott shreds anything you put in her doghouse just because she
likes to, so who knows.

Dani

"Renegade-MT" <reneam@aldrichclan.com> wrote in message
news:1113493216.369959.128760@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> It is good to see all the animal lovers in here!
> Two years ago I went shopping for anther Boxer, which I had raised
> while I was raising kids. Babies and puppies everywhere as I remember
> it.
>
> My daughter had purchased a Boxer, in rememberance of her favorite one
> while she was growing up. Well, that didnt happen......
>
> I ended up with a mini Schnauzer and I am not a small dog fan.
> Max is now 2 yrs and Fritz is a year now.
> I loved the one so much and got tired of sharing him with hubby, so we
> just had to have another one!!
> Now the kids are gone, the "boys" cuddle up on the couch for movies and
> popcorn.
>
> The "boys" are actually quite calm and will take all the "puppy kisses"
> the grandkids with pass along!! Clean there faces too!!
> Tails are bobbed, and they dont shed.....that is the best part.
>
> This weekend we are leaving on our annual fishing trip and have hired a
> "babysitter" to come sty with them.....please dont tell on me!! The
> last time I left them the younger one shredded the blanket I left for
> them to lay on. Soooo no blankets this time.
>
> Does anyone know why they do that kind of stuff?
>



djgordon

2005-04-17, 6:15 pm

Separation anxiety the same as a toddler first going off to preschool. Then
again, our Rott shreds anything you put in her doghouse just because she
likes to, so who knows.

Dani

"Renegade-MT" <reneam@aldrichclan.com> wrote in message
news:1113493216.369959.128760@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> It is good to see all the animal lovers in here!
> Two years ago I went shopping for anther Boxer, which I had raised
> while I was raising kids. Babies and puppies everywhere as I remember
> it.
>
> My daughter had purchased a Boxer, in rememberance of her favorite one
> while she was growing up. Well, that didnt happen......
>
> I ended up with a mini Schnauzer and I am not a small dog fan.
> Max is now 2 yrs and Fritz is a year now.
> I loved the one so much and got tired of sharing him with hubby, so we
> just had to have another one!!
> Now the kids are gone, the "boys" cuddle up on the couch for movies and
> popcorn.
>
> The "boys" are actually quite calm and will take all the "puppy kisses"
> the grandkids with pass along!! Clean there faces too!!
> Tails are bobbed, and they dont shed.....that is the best part.
>
> This weekend we are leaving on our annual fishing trip and have hired a
> "babysitter" to come sty with them.....please dont tell on me!! The
> last time I left them the younger one shredded the blanket I left for
> them to lay on. Soooo no blankets this time.
>
> Does anyone know why they do that kind of stuff?
>



Neal

2005-04-17, 6:15 pm

Reminds me of the time I had a Brittany Spaniel, maybe a year old. It
was one of those cold, rainy days. We were going to be gone all day and
for some reason he would not go in his dog house, just stood out in the
rain, shivering. I felt sorry for him, so propped the door of my new
travel trailer open so he could go in there.

When we got home that night, he had "gone in there," all right! He had
chewed and shredded ALL the cushions in the trailer and two of our
sleeping bags.

I was not a happy camper!

Neal

djgordon wrote:
> Separation anxiety the same as a toddler first going off to preschool. Then
> again, our Rott shreds anything you put in her doghouse just because she
> likes to, so who knows.
>
> Dani
>
> "Renegade-MT" <reneam@aldrichclan.com> wrote in message
> news:1113493216.369959.128760@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>

Neal

2005-04-17, 6:15 pm

Reminds me of the time I had a Brittany Spaniel, maybe a year old. It
was one of those cold, rainy days. We were going to be gone all day and
for some reason he would not go in his dog house, just stood out in the
rain, shivering. I felt sorry for him, so propped the door of my new
travel trailer open so he could go in there.

When we got home that night, he had "gone in there," all right! He had
chewed and shredded ALL the cushions in the trailer and two of our
sleeping bags.

I was not a happy camper!

Neal

djgordon wrote:
> Separation anxiety the same as a toddler first going off to preschool. Then
> again, our Rott shreds anything you put in her doghouse just because she
> likes to, so who knows.
>
> Dani
>
> "Renegade-MT" <reneam@aldrichclan.com> wrote in message
> news:1113493216.369959.128760@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>

Sandi

2005-04-17, 6:16 pm

> > Those have to be the most energetic dogs I've ever seen (well, there was
than[vbcol=seagreen]
and[vbcol=seagreen]
have[vbcol=seagreen]
>
>
> Yeah, I was a bit amused by Dani's comment that "they are not that bad."
>
> Not that bad compared to what? A tornado? A wolverine? A tasmanian

devil?
>
> ed
>

No kidding. My brother's JR turned the porn channel on full blast in his
apartment by stepping on the remote while my brother was working the night
shift. He found a new home shortly thereafter.

Sandi


Sandi

2005-04-17, 6:16 pm

> > Those have to be the most energetic dogs I've ever seen (well, there was
than[vbcol=seagreen]
and[vbcol=seagreen]
have[vbcol=seagreen]
>
>
> Yeah, I was a bit amused by Dani's comment that "they are not that bad."
>
> Not that bad compared to what? A tornado? A wolverine? A tasmanian

devil?
>
> ed
>

No kidding. My brother's JR turned the porn channel on full blast in his
apartment by stepping on the remote while my brother was working the night
shift. He found a new home shortly thereafter.

Sandi


Ed Chait

2005-04-17, 6:16 pm


"Anne Vasquez" <annevasquez@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:wkG6e.568$zq4.515@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...[vbcol=seagreen]
> Those have to be the most energetic dogs I've ever seen (well, there was
> some kind of spaniel-type dog that my BIL dog had; just watching him
> bounce made me nuts inside of 10 minutes!)
>
> Anne
>
>
> kathycarp wrote:
>


Yeah, I was a bit amused by Dani's comment that "they are not that bad."

Not that bad compared to what? A tornado? A wolverine? A tasmanian devil?

ed


Ed Chait

2005-04-17, 6:16 pm


"Anne Vasquez" <annevasquez@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message
news:wkG6e.568$zq4.515@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...[vbcol=seagreen]
> Those have to be the most energetic dogs I've ever seen (well, there was
> some kind of spaniel-type dog that my BIL dog had; just watching him
> bounce made me nuts inside of 10 minutes!)
>
> Anne
>
>
> kathycarp wrote:
>


Yeah, I was a bit amused by Dani's comment that "they are not that bad."

Not that bad compared to what? A tornado? A wolverine? A tasmanian devil?

ed


RaeMorrill

2005-04-17, 6:16 pm

Another solution could be to get some chain link fencing for the outside
of the wall next time. That should stop them!

djgordon wrote:
> Didn't even consider it. Two pieces of paneling, one piece of sheetrock is
> all we needed to fix it. Had insulation and black board, tape, and mud, and
> leftover wallpaper, so it didn't come out to much, just until it's fixed I
> almost cry just walking out into the garage. I'm staggered at what lengths
> they went to.
>
> Dani
>
> "RaeMorrill" <RaeMorrill@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:s0z6e.1640$%v6.623@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>
>
> my
>
>
> the
>
>
> room
>
>
> into
>
>
> hear
>
>
> every
>
>
> sure.
>
>
> the
>
>
> they
>
>
> other
>
>
> get
>
>
> and
>
>
> all
>
>
> have
>
>
>
>

RaeMorrill

2005-04-17, 6:16 pm

Another solution could be to get some chain link fencing for the outside
of the wall next time. That should stop them!

djgordon wrote:
> Didn't even consider it. Two pieces of paneling, one piece of sheetrock is
> all we needed to fix it. Had insulation and black board, tape, and mud, and
> leftover wallpaper, so it didn't come out to much, just until it's fixed I
> almost cry just walking out into the garage. I'm staggered at what lengths
> they went to.
>
> Dani
>
> "RaeMorrill" <RaeMorrill@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:s0z6e.1640$%v6.623@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>
>
> my
>
>
> the
>
>
> room
>
>
> into
>
>
> hear
>
>
> every
>
>
> sure.
>
>
> the
>
>
> they
>
>
> other
>
>
> get
>
>
> and
>
>
> all
>
>
> have
>
>
>
>

kathycarp

2005-04-17, 6:16 pm


Yeah, I was a bit amused by Dani's comment that "they are not that bad."

Not that bad compared to what? A tornado? A wolverine? A tasmanian devil?

ed

------------
Well, in all fairness, they got another JR and this one's energy level is
about 1/10 the first one.

--
Kathy
www.ambergriscaye.com/villadelsol
"Ed Chait" <edchait4remove@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:VAG6e.4578$An2.2551@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>
> "Anne Vasquez" <annevasquez@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:wkG6e.568$zq4.515@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
>
>
> Yeah, I was a bit amused by Dani's comment that "they are not that bad."
>
> Not that bad compared to what? A tornado? A wolverine? A tasmanian
> devil?
>
> ed
>



kathycarp

2005-04-17, 6:16 pm


Yeah, I was a bit amused by Dani's comment that "they are not that bad."

Not that bad compared to what? A tornado? A wolverine? A tasmanian devil?

ed

------------
Well, in all fairness, they got another JR and this one's energy level is
about 1/10 the first one.

--
Kathy
www.ambergriscaye.com/villadelsol
"Ed Chait" <edchait4remove@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:VAG6e.4578$An2.2551@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
>
> "Anne Vasquez" <annevasquez@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:wkG6e.568$zq4.515@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com...
>
>
> Yeah, I was a bit amused by Dani's comment that "they are not that bad."
>
> Not that bad compared to what? A tornado? A wolverine? A tasmanian
> devil?
>
> ed
>



Tallulah

2005-04-17, 6:16 pm

I'm having quite a chuckle picturing that. But I do believe it. I'm
still amazed at the damage a lab's tail can do in a house (and the
amount of energy they have). I know after about 2 to 3 years, she'll
settle down, but mine is just full of explosive energy. There's not a
mean bone in her body, but she gets in SO much trouble! It's hard to
discipline her because she is SO loveable. If I yell at her she stands
on her hind haunches, puts her paws on my shoulders like we're going to
ballroom dance, and then she's giving me kisses while I try not to
laugh. If I continue to speak sternly at her and just smirk I consider
it a "win."

I have tried to talk my husband into opening a doggy day care/boarding
facility, but the thought of pit bulls and rottweilers (and chihuahuas)
are enough to make that one of those dreams you really don't want to
come true.

Tallulah

2005-04-17, 6:16 pm

I'm having quite a chuckle picturing that. But I do believe it. I'm
still amazed at the damage a lab's tail can do in a house (and the
amount of energy they have). I know after about 2 to 3 years, she'll
settle down, but mine is just full of explosive energy. There's not a
mean bone in her body, but she gets in SO much trouble! It's hard to
discipline her because she is SO loveable. If I yell at her she stands
on her hind haunches, puts her paws on my shoulders like we're going to
ballroom dance, and then she's giving me kisses while I try not to
laugh. If I continue to speak sternly at her and just smirk I consider
it a "win."

I have tried to talk my husband into opening a doggy day care/boarding
facility, but the thought of pit bulls and rottweilers (and chihuahuas)
are enough to make that one of those dreams you really don't want to
come true.

Neal

2005-04-17, 6:16 pm

Reminds me of the time I had a Brittany Spaniel, maybe a year old. It
was one of those cold, rainy days. We were going to be gone all day and
for some reason he would not go in his dog house, just stood out in the
rain, shivering. I felt sorry for him, so propped the door of my new
travel trailer open so he could go in there.

When we got home that night, he had "gone in there," all right! He had
chewed and shredded ALL the cushions in the trailer and two of our
sleeping bags.

I was not a happy camper!

Neal

djgordon wrote:
> Separation anxiety the same as a toddler first going off to preschool. Then
> again, our Rott shreds anything you put in her doghouse just because she
> likes to, so who knows.
>
> Dani
>
> "Renegade-MT" <reneam@aldrichclan.com> wrote in message
> news:1113493216.369959.128760@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>

Neal

2005-04-17, 6:16 pm

Reminds me of the time I had a Brittany Spaniel, maybe a year old. It
was one of those cold, rainy days. We were going to be gone all day and
for some reason he would not go in his dog house, just stood out in the
rain, shivering. I felt sorry for him, so propped the door of my new
travel trailer open so he could go in there.

When we got home that night, he had "gone in there," all right! He had
chewed and shredded ALL the cushions in the trailer and two of our
sleeping bags.

I was not a happy camper!

Neal

djgordon wrote:
> Separation anxiety the same as a toddler first going off to preschool. Then
> again, our Rott shreds anything you put in her doghouse just because she
> likes to, so who knows.
>
> Dani
>
> "Renegade-MT" <reneam@aldrichclan.com> wrote in message
> news:1113493216.369959.128760@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
>

Tallulah

2005-04-17, 6:16 pm

Oh great! Guess I'll put off the remodeling plans then (might as well
wait a few more years then, since the wrecking ball tail will continue
longer than expected).

Poor puppy - and I've come home to a *murder scene* once too, so I know
how horrifying that can be. (Our dog had caught his chest on a barbed
wire fence or something - I saw bloody paw prints up and down the
sidewalk, on the door, and around the house. When I found him I
thought certainly I was going to find a dead dog, but he was alive, and
the vet fixed him up).

That's sweet she never hurt your daughter, even when in that much pain,
and your daughter obviously causing more. THAT is a really good dog.
<G>

Tallulah

2005-04-17, 6:16 pm

Oh great! Guess I'll put off the remodeling plans then (might as well
wait a few more years then, since the wrecking ball tail will continue
longer than expected).

Poor puppy - and I've come home to a *murder scene* once too, so I know
how horrifying that can be. (Our dog had caught his chest on a barbed
wire fence or something - I saw bloody paw prints up and down the
sidewalk, on the door, and around the house. When I found him I
thought certainly I was going to find a dead dog, but he was alive, and
the vet fixed him up).

That's sweet she never hurt your daughter, even when in that much pain,
and your daughter obviously causing more. THAT is a really good dog.
<G>

Judity

2005-04-17, 6:16 pm

((I have more problems if I'm squatting down and she does that -
then I'm more apt to be bowled over. ))

That reminds me of Hoss, a large Saint Bernard that lived on the same street
I did back in South Boston. This dog would see me walking home after work
and would race up the sidewalk to greet me. After a couple of near falls, I
learned to brace myself against a building wall as Hoss finally reached me
to jump up with a slobbery doggy kiss or two.

Hey, he gave better kisses than some of the men I dated. LOL

Judity


Judity

2005-04-17, 6:16 pm

((I have more problems if I'm squatting down and she does that -
then I'm more apt to be bowled over. ))

That reminds me of Hoss, a large Saint Bernard that lived on the same street
I did back in South Boston. This dog would see me walking home after work
and would race up the sidewalk to greet me. After a couple of near falls, I
learned to brace myself against a building wall as Hoss finally reached me
to jump up with a slobbery doggy kiss or two.

Hey, he gave better kisses than some of the men I dated. LOL

Judity


Renegade-MT

2005-04-17, 6:16 pm

It is good to see all the animal lovers in here!
Two years ago I went shopping for anther Boxer, which I had raised
while I was raising kids. Babies and puppies everywhere as I remember
it.

My daughter had purchased a Boxer, in rememberance of her favorite one
while she was growing up. Well, that didnt happen......

I ended up with a mini Schnauzer and I am not a small dog fan.
Max is now 2 yrs and Fritz is a year now.
I loved the one so much and got tired of sharing him with hubby, so we
just had to have another one!!
Now the kids are gone, the "boys" cuddle up on the couch for movies and
popcorn.

The "boys" are actually quite calm and will take all the "puppy kisses"
the grandkids with pass along!! Clean there faces too!!
Tails are bobbed, and they dont shed.....that is the best part.

This weekend we are leaving on our annual fishing trip and have hired a
"babysitter" to come sty with them.....please dont tell on me!! The
last time I left them the younger one shredded the blanket I left for
them to lay on. Soooo no blankets this time.

Does anyone know why they do that kind of stuff?

Renegade-MT

2005-04-17, 6:16 pm

It is good to see all the animal lovers in here!
Two years ago I went shopping for anther Boxer, which I had raised
while I was raising kids. Babies and puppies everywhere as I remember
it.

My daughter had purchased a Boxer, in rememberance of her favorite one
while she was growing up. Well, that didnt happen......

I ended up with a mini Schnauzer and I am not a small dog fan.
Max is now 2 yrs and Fritz is a year now.
I loved the one so much and got tired of sharing him with hubby, so we
just had to have another one!!
Now the kids are gone, the "boys" cuddle up on the couch for movies and
popcorn.

The "boys" are actually quite calm and will take all the "puppy kisses"
the grandkids with pass along!! Clean there faces too!!
Tails are bobbed, and they dont shed.....that is the best part.

This weekend we are leaving on our annual fishing trip and have hired a
"babysitter" to come sty with them.....please dont tell on me!! The
last time I left them the younger one shredded the blanket I left for
them to lay on. Soooo no blankets this time.

Does anyone know why they do that kind of stuff?

kathycarp

2005-04-17, 6:16 pm

Cats will also dig. Ours have dug up carpeting, and linoleum, when a door
accidentally was shut, and they were in the room. We are still repairing all
of the damage our animals did to our house, and we will not have more pets,
since we travel too, and I'm tired of raising kids and animals.

--
Kathy
www.ambergriscaye.com/villadelsol
"Donna" <donna@exitstageleftcroakerwoods.com> wrote in message
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> "djgordon" <danigordon@bellsouth.net> wrote in
> news:a%v6e.50969$f%4.44808@bignews1.bellsouth.net:
>
>
> And that is why we board our dog
>
> Our other GS dog tried to claw her way out of a room and tore a good part
> of the sheetrock up (we were at work, many years ago). Dogs will do what
> dogs do.
>
> Sorry about your welcome home ;-x
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Donna
>



kathycarp

2005-04-17, 6:16 pm

Cats will also dig. Ours have dug up carpeting, and linoleum, when a door
accidentally was shut, and they were in the room. We are still repairing all
of the damage our animals did to our house, and we will not have more pets,
since we travel too, and I'm tired of raising kids and animals.

--
Kathy
www.ambergriscaye.com/villadelsol
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> "djgordon" <danigordon@bellsouth.net> wrote in
> news:a%v6e.50969$f%4.44808@bignews1.bellsouth.net:
>
>
> And that is why we board our dog
>
> Our other GS dog tried to claw her way out of a room and tore a good part
> of the sheetrock up (we were at work, many years ago). Dogs will do what
> dogs do.
>
> Sorry about your welcome home ;-x
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Donna
>



djgordon

2005-04-17, 6:16 pm

Boarding, a wonderful suggestion, closest one to us is 2-3 hours away. We
are very, very rural. Next time we'll go back to doing what we usually do
and putting them in the detached garage which is concrete block and brick.

Dani

"Donna" <donna@exitstageleftcroakerwoods.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96357691ECF10donnacroakerwoodscom@68.1.17.6...
> "djgordon" <danigordon@bellsouth.net> wrote in
> news:a%v6e.50969$f%4.44808@bignews1.bellsouth.net:
>
>
> And that is why we board our dog
>
> Our other GS dog tried to claw her way out of a room and tore a good part
> of the sheetrock up (we were at work, many years ago). Dogs will do what
> dogs do.
>
> Sorry about your welcome home ;-x
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Donna
>



djgordon

2005-04-17, 6:16 pm

Boarding, a wonderful suggestion, closest one to us is 2-3 hours away. We
are very, very rural. Next time we'll go back to doing what we usually do
and putting them in the detached garage which is concrete block and brick.

Dani

"Donna" <donna@exitstageleftcroakerwoods.com> wrote in message
news:Xns96357691ECF10donnacroakerwoodscom@68.1.17.6...
> "djgordon" <danigordon@bellsouth.net> wrote in
> news:a%v6e.50969$f%4.44808@bignews1.bellsouth.net:
>
>
> And that is why we board our dog
>
> Our other GS dog tried to claw her way out of a room and tore a good part
> of the sheetrock up (we were at work, many years ago). Dogs will do what
> dogs do.
>
> Sorry about your welcome home ;-x
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Donna
>



RaeMorrill

2005-04-17, 6:16 pm

That should slow them down a bit! Our prior dogs were outdoor and fine
with having pet sitter come. Even the one who was loose never ran off
looking for us. I'd hate to leave this dog in a kennel as I'm rather
sure she wouldn't eat. Fortunately, she's good inside and we only travel
to our house in VA where she can stay. If we have to go visit folks,
we'll have to find a motel that allows dogs.

djgordon wrote:
> Boarding, a wonderful suggestion, closest one to us is 2-3 hours away. We
> are very, very rural. Next time we'll go back to doing what we usually do
> and putting them in the detached garage which is concrete block and brick.
>
> Dani
>
> "Donna" <donna@exitstageleftcroakerwoods.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns96357691ECF10donnacroakerwoodscom@68.1.17.6...
>
>
>
>

RaeMorrill

2005-04-17, 6:16 pm

That should slow them down a bit! Our prior dogs were outdoor and fine
with having pet sitter come. Even the one who was loose never ran off
looking for us. I'd hate to leave this dog in a kennel as I'm rather
sure she wouldn't eat. Fortunately, she's good inside and we only travel
to our house in VA where she can stay. If we have to go visit folks,
we'll have to find a motel that allows dogs.

djgordon wrote:
> Boarding, a wonderful suggestion, closest one to us is 2-3 hours away. We
> are very, very rural. Next time we'll go back to doing what we usually do
> and putting them in the detached garage which is concrete block and brick.
>
> Dani
>
> "Donna" <donna@exitstageleftcroakerwoods.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns96357691ECF10donnacroakerwoodscom@68.1.17.6...
>
>
>
>

kathycarp

2005-04-17, 6:16 pm

Not sure about all policies, but ours excludes pet damage. I know someone
who lied about the damage her dogs caused to her carpet (said it happened
some other way), and had the whole thing replaced. That's not right.

--
Kathy
www.ambergriscaye.com/villadelsol
"RaeMorrill" <RaeMorrill@aol.com> wrote in message
news:s0z6e.1640$%v6.623@twister.nyroc.rr.com...[vbcol=seagreen]
> OMG. That's amazing and horrible. However, I don't think most dogs would
> go that far. Wonder if homeowner's covers this ?
>
>
> djgordon wrote:

kathycarp

2005-04-17, 6:16 pm

Not sure about all policies, but ours excludes pet damage. I know someone
who lied about the damage her dogs caused to her carpet (said it happened
some other way), and had the whole thing replaced. That's not right.

--
Kathy
www.ambergriscaye.com/villadelsol
"RaeMorrill" <RaeMorrill@aol.com> wrote in message
news:s0z6e.1640$%v6.623@twister.nyroc.rr.com...[vbcol=seagreen]
> OMG. That's amazing and horrible. However, I don't think most dogs would
> go that far. Wonder if homeowner's covers this ?
>
>
> djgordon wrote:

Judity

2005-04-17, 6:16 pm

And I thought Boo Belle was naughty for using the front room's wooden window
frame as her personal scratching post.

Judity



Judity

2005-04-17, 6:16 pm

And I thought Boo Belle was naughty for using the front room's wooden window
frame as her personal scratching post.

Judity



Sandi

2005-04-17, 6:16 pm

> > Those have to be the most energetic dogs I've ever seen (well, there was
than[vbcol=seagreen]
and[vbcol=seagreen]
have[vbcol=seagreen]
>
>
> Yeah, I was a bit amused by Dani's comment that "they are not that bad."
>
> Not that bad compared to what? A tornado? A wolverine? A tasmanian

devil?
>
> ed
>

No kidding. My brother's JR turned the porn channel on full blast in his
apartment by stepping on the remote while my brother was working the night
shift. He found a new home shortly thereafter.

Sandi


Sandi

2005-04-17, 6:16 pm

> > Those have to be the most energetic dogs I've ever seen (well, there was
than[vbcol=seagreen]
and[vbcol=seagreen]
have[vbcol=seagreen]
>
>
> Yeah, I was a bit amused by Dani's comment that "they are not that bad."
>
> Not that bad compared to what? A tornado? A wolverine? A tasmanian

devil?
>
> ed
>

No kidding. My brother's JR turned the porn channel on full blast in his
apartment by stepping on the remote while my brother was working the night
shift. He found a new home shortly thereafter.

Sandi