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| RaeMorrill 2005-12-28, 12:51 pm |
| I've just decided I "need" one of these little gadgets. I've always like
to walk with music - the rhythm drives me forward a lot faster and makes
time pass more quickly. I've downloaded a few songs off iTunes through
AOL and it's great. You can build a library of your old favorites w/o
buying an album.
Any input on brands, etc? what features? I see one that goes for aroun
100 bucks, only holds 120 songs. Some I see can hold 1000 or more. I
can't think I need that much - can always swap out music.
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| Jeannie Wilson 2005-12-28, 5:54 pm |
| RaeMorrill <RaeMorrill@aol.com> wrote here for all to
seenews:21Bsf.57389$ME5.41056@twister.nyroc.rr.com:
> Any input on brands, etc? what features? I see one that goes for aroun
> 100 bucks, only holds 120 songs. Some I see can hold 1000 or more. I
> can't think I need that much - can always swap out music.
I have had a few (3, I believe) MP3 players and I honestly prefer my Apple
IPOD over any of them. I LOVE IT!
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| I bought mine straight from Apple. Then my nephew came to show me how to
use it! LOL!
I have an EXTENSIVE music collection and if the funds ever allow, I think I
will get a couple more. Mine holds 500 songs.
"RaeMorrill" <RaeMorrill@aol.com> wrote in message
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> I've just decided I "need" one of these little gadgets. I've always like
> to walk with music - the rhythm drives me forward a lot faster and makes
> time pass more quickly. I've downloaded a few songs off iTunes through
> AOL and it's great. You can build a library of your old favorites w/o
> buying an album.
>
> Any input on brands, etc? what features? I see one that goes for aroun
> 100 bucks, only holds 120 songs. Some I see can hold 1000 or more. I
> can't think I need that much - can always swap out music.
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| RaeMorrill 2005-12-28, 5:54 pm |
| Thanks. Now, can I borrow your nephew? LOL. I have some CDs, not huge
collection, but between those and going after specific songs online I'm
sure I'll manage. Of course I'm sure next I'll "need" a CD burner even
though the vehicle has XM Radio with so many stations you can't possibly
listen to them all
Bam wrote:
> I bought mine straight from Apple. Then my nephew came to show me how to
> use it! LOL!
>
> I have an EXTENSIVE music collection and if the funds ever allow, I think I
> will get a couple more. Mine holds 500 songs.
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> "RaeMorrill" <RaeMorrill@aol.com> wrote in message
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| DJGordon 2005-12-28, 5:54 pm |
| I bought my daughter the Sandisk Sansa for Christmas at Circuit City for
around $80 or so (compare to $195 for iPod), I got the 512 mb one which
holds 120 MP3s or 240 WMAs. It will take an SD card to add more memory, so
still thinking cheaper since 256 SD card is only $10 or so. Anyway, she
loves it, its reviews have beat out the iPod mini except do heed anything
you read about not using the earbuds that come with it. They have the most
terrible sound quality ever. We went and bought her a dollar pair of earbuds
at the Dollar Tree and the sound is amazing. Sooo, my vote is for the Sansa
(also comes at 1 gig too with expandable memory).
Dani
"RaeMorrill" <RaeMorrill@aol.com> wrote in message
news:21Bsf.57389$ME5.41056@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> I've just decided I "need" one of these little gadgets. I've always like
> to walk with music - the rhythm drives me forward a lot faster and makes
> time pass more quickly. I've downloaded a few songs off iTunes through AOL
> and it's great. You can build a library of your old favorites w/o buying
> an album.
>
> Any input on brands, etc? what features? I see one that goes for aroun 100
> bucks, only holds 120 songs. Some I see can hold 1000 or more. I can't
> think I need that much - can always swap out music.
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| Does the radio have as good of sound as the CD?
I played my first CDs in the car when on vacation, and was blown away by how
great they sounded. Of course, I left all the CDs in the car when I sold it
last week.
Neal
"RaeMorrill" <RaeMorrill@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Thanks. Now, can I borrow your nephew? LOL. I have some CDs, not huge
> collection, but between those and going after specific songs online I'm
> sure I'll manage. Of course I'm sure next I'll "need" a CD burner even
> though the vehicle has XM Radio with so many stations you can't possibly
> listen to them all
>
> Bam wrote:
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| Okay, it was 2 CDs. I only had a small collection!
Neal
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> Does the radio have as good of sound as the CD?
>
> I played my first CDs in the car when on vacation, and was blown away by
> how great they sounded. Of course, I left all the CDs in the car when I
> sold it last week.
>
> Neal
>
> "RaeMorrill" <RaeMorrill@aol.com> wrote in message
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| RaeMorrill 2005-12-28, 5:54 pm |
| I went to Radio Shack. They had only the Ipod shuffle (no display) but
another brand. However, they could not assure me I could load the music
I have DL'd from itunes onto it. Anyone know if these files will go into
any of these player (maybe not using their software but just copy to it)?
DJGordon wrote:
> I bought my daughter the Sandisk Sansa for Christmas at Circuit City for
> around $80 or so (compare to $195 for iPod), I got the 512 mb one which
> holds 120 MP3s or 240 WMAs. It will take an SD card to add more memory, so
> still thinking cheaper since 256 SD card is only $10 or so. Anyway, she
> loves it, its reviews have beat out the iPod mini except do heed anything
> you read about not using the earbuds that come with it. They have the most
> terrible sound quality ever. We went and bought her a dollar pair of earbuds
> at the Dollar Tree and the sound is amazing. Sooo, my vote is for the Sansa
> (also comes at 1 gig too with expandable memory).
>
> Dani
>
> "RaeMorrill" <RaeMorrill@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:21Bsf.57389$ME5.41056@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
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| DJGordon 2005-12-29, 12:56 am |
| The Sansa is a breeze. Hook it up to your USB port, XP auto recognizes it,
you go to whatever folder you have your music in, copy what you want, go to
the new drive created by the Sansa and hit paste....or just highlight all
the ones you want, right click, hit send to...and the Sansa is one of the
choices. We also have iTunes and although I didn't use their interface, I
bet it would work. I just go to the folder the music is saved in using
Windows Explorer and do it from there.
Dani
"RaeMorrill" <RaeMorrill@aol.com> wrote in message
news:UaEsf.38145$XJ5.28251@twister.nyroc.rr.com...[vbcol=seagreen]
>I went to Radio Shack. They had only the Ipod shuffle (no display) but
>another brand. However, they could not assure me I could load the music I
>have DL'd from itunes onto it. Anyone know if these files will go into any
>of these player (maybe not using their software but just copy to it)?
>
> DJGordon wrote:
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| Jeannie Wilson 2005-12-29, 12:56 am |
| RaeMorrill <RaeMorrill@aol.com> wrote here for all to
seenews:5dCsf.38137$XJ5.28330@twister.nyroc.rr.com:
> Thanks. Now, can I borrow your nephew? LOL. I have some CDs, not huge
> collection, but between those and going after specific songs online I'm
> sure I'll manage. Of course I'm sure next I'll "need" a CD burner even
> though the vehicle has XM Radio with so many stations you can't possibly
> listen to them all
Naaahhh..You won't need one of those. Buy an FM Transmitter for your IPOD
and play it through your car stereo like I do. I LOVE IT. I can program
playlists and just hit it to play preselected songs and I don't even have
to mess with it while driving.
In all honesty, the IPOD from Apple was MUCH easier to use than any of my
other MP3 players and MUCH easier to transfer from CD to the IPOD.
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| Jeannie Wilson 2005-12-29, 12:56 am |
| RaeMorrill <RaeMorrill@aol.com> wrote here for all to
seenews:UaEsf.38145$XJ5.28251@twister.nyroc.rr.com:
> I went to Radio Shack. They had only the Ipod shuffle (no display) but
> another brand. However, they could not assure me I could load the music
> I have DL'd from itunes onto it. Anyone know if these files will go into
> any of these player (maybe not using their software but just copy to it)?
My vote would be for an IPOD or other brand where you can select what songs
you want to listen to. I personally wouldn't want it shuffling through all
1300 songs I have so far on my IPOD. I forget how big mine is now, but
it's not even close to being full from what I remember.
I had a ton of songs I had already on my laptop and I had no trouble at all
loading my IPOD CD and it pulled all the music files from my computer into
it, did whatever it needed to do to them and then when I plugged my IPOD
into my computer via USB port, it plopped them all on there just as easy as
ever. I was pleasantly surprised. OF course, I remember my college
boyfriend had an Apple computer and it was undoubtedly the easiest thing
ever.
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| Ed Chait 2005-12-29, 12:56 am |
| There are several different models of ipods.
There are basically two classes of mp3 players right now. There are ones
with small hard drives that hold 20/30/40 GB or more, and there are ones
with flash memory that hold a lot less. The players with a small hard drive
are larger than the players with flash memory. The flash memory players
will still hold a decent number of songs and some of them can also use
memory cards for expandable memory.
If I was looking for an mp3 player, I would first consider how much storage
I need, and then how I'm going to be using the player. If I was going to
use it mainly for listening to stuff while exercising, I would opt for a
player with flash memory. If I needed something that would hold my entire
music collection, so that I had all my music available for a trip or
vacation, I would opt for a player with a hard drive.
You pay a premium for the ipod brand because they are very popular. They
are good players, but there are players that are just as good for a lot less
money.
ed
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| RaeMorrill 2005-12-29, 12:56 am |
| Dani do you have any itunes downloaded you could try and let me know. I
hunted through disk and found the itunes songs are MPEG format. Even the
teeny Ipod was 99 bucks and it probalby is enough for me, but if I can
get more for less money why not!
DJGordon wrote:
> The Sansa is a breeze. Hook it up to your USB port, XP auto recognizes it,
> you go to whatever folder you have your music in, copy what you want, go to
> the new drive created by the Sansa and hit paste....or just highlight all
> the ones you want, right click, hit send to...and the Sansa is one of the
> choices. We also have iTunes and although I didn't use their interface, I
> bet it would work. I just go to the folder the music is saved in using
> Windows Explorer and do it from there.
>
> Dani
>
> "RaeMorrill" <RaeMorrill@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:UaEsf.38145$XJ5.28251@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
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>
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| RaeMorrill 2005-12-29, 12:56 am |
| I'm chuckling over the use of the word "small" in same sentence with any
# of gigabytes!
Ed Chait wrote:
> There are several different models of ipods.
>
> There are basically two classes of mp3 players right now. There are ones
> with small hard drives that hold 20/30/40 GB or more, and there are ones
> with flash memory that hold a lot less. The players with a small hard drive
> are larger than the players with flash memory. The flash memory players
> will still hold a decent number of songs and some of them can also use
> memory cards for expandable memory.
>
> If I was looking for an mp3 player, I would first consider how much storage
> I need, and then how I'm going to be using the player. If I was going to
> use it mainly for listening to stuff while exercising, I would opt for a
> player with flash memory. If I needed something that would hold my entire
> music collection, so that I had all my music available for a trip or
> vacation, I would opt for a player with a hard drive.
>
> You pay a premium for the ipod brand because they are very popular. They
> are good players, but there are players that are just as good for a lot less
> money.
>
> ed
>
>
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| DJGordon 2005-12-29, 12:56 am |
| Dionna accidentally left it at a friend's house today (ALREADY SHEESH) and
so I couldn't try it, but at this link is a complete review of it:
http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2...50324028713.htm
And at the bottom of the page someone asks the question if you can use it
with the iTunes and here's what was said:
If you have files you ripped with iTunes (and you didn't switch the import
mode from m4a to mp3) or you purchase songs from iTunes, you will need to
convert them to mp3 in order to play them on a non-apple device. This is not
hard (provided you have the password for any protected songs). Check out
hymn (or I think the new version is Jhymn). Free, and easy.
So I would assume that if you switch the import mode just to make sure you
are recording (ripping) the songs in MP3 format then you are fine. And since
MP3 is an MPEG you should be fine. As long as the songs you're ripping or
downloading aren't in the proprietary Apple format (ACC) and have the
extensions of .MP3, then you're set to go. But even if you don't use it
directly with iTunes you can still transfer your songs from iTunes to the
Sansa because no matter what the files are on your hard drive and the Sansa
just becomes another drive and you drag and drop. In other words, just like
I save all my music to the "My Music" folder in the "My Documents" folder, I
just go there to upload the music, so you just go to your Itunes folder in
Windows Explorer instead of using the actual iTunes interface and drag and
drop from there.
Did I mention it's also a voice recorder and a USB flash drive? I think I'll
be getting me one also. (Also has FM radio) And a universal FM transmitter
is only $15 at Kohl's.
Dani
"RaeMorrill" <RaeMorrill@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Dani do you have any itunes downloaded you could try and let me know. I
> hunted through disk and found the itunes songs are MPEG format. Even the
> teeny Ipod was 99 bucks and it probalby is enough for me, but if I can get
> more for less money why not!
>
> DJGordon wrote:
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| DJGordon 2005-12-29, 12:56 am |
| Okay, I read that iTunes won't recognize the player itself, but like I said,
since your music is saved on your hard drive, that's all that counts with
the Sansa. It's a drag and drop interface like I explained in the previous
post. You don't have to quit using your iTunes in any way at all, you just
wouldn't synch using the interface.
It also comes with 3 sets of free downloads from play for sure and two
others I wasn't familiar with that are pay for music sites.
But, anyway, you get what you want, take everyone's advice, I don't know why
I am going on and on about this player except that my niece got an iPod
while at our house for Christmas and while Dionna's had songs on it within
20 minutes (that's with opening the silly blister pack the thing comes in
which took at least 10-lol), Jenn had to wait until they drove the 6 hours
to home that night in order to do hers on her own computer because they
couldn't get none of my four computers to interface with the iPod very well
at all.
Dani
"DJGordon" <danigordon@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> Dionna accidentally left it at a friend's house today (ALREADY SHEESH) and
> so I couldn't try it, but at this link is a complete review of it:
>
> http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2...50324028713.htm
>
> And at the bottom of the page someone asks the question if you can use it
> with the iTunes and here's what was said:
>
>
> If you have files you ripped with iTunes (and you didn't switch the import
> mode from m4a to mp3) or you purchase songs from iTunes, you will need to
> convert them to mp3 in order to play them on a non-apple device. This is
> not hard (provided you have the password for any protected songs). Check
> out hymn (or I think the new version is Jhymn). Free, and easy.
>
> So I would assume that if you switch the import mode just to make sure you
> are recording (ripping) the songs in MP3 format then you are fine. And
> since MP3 is an MPEG you should be fine. As long as the songs you're
> ripping or downloading aren't in the proprietary Apple format (ACC) and
> have the extensions of .MP3, then you're set to go. But even if you don't
> use it directly with iTunes you can still transfer your songs from iTunes
> to the Sansa because no matter what the files are on your hard drive and
> the Sansa just becomes another drive and you drag and drop. In other
> words, just like I save all my music to the "My Music" folder in the "My
> Documents" folder, I just go there to upload the music, so you just go to
> your Itunes folder in Windows Explorer instead of using the actual iTunes
> interface and drag and drop from there.
>
> Did I mention it's also a voice recorder and a USB flash drive? I think
> I'll be getting me one also. (Also has FM radio) And a universal FM
> transmitter is only $15 at Kohl's.
>
> Dani
>
> "RaeMorrill" <RaeMorrill@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:4nJsf.56231$XC4.4795@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>
>
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| haggis 2005-12-29, 12:56 am |
|
Got myself a 60GB iPod and a 4GB Nano for daughter, and can't imagine
picking anything but the real thing. I plug it into my USB and it syncs
with iTunes, I can add in anything I want from iPhoto, I can sync my
iCal and address book, I can add memos to myself, and yes, it is just
plain cool. I got the black one because it was different and I was
silly enough to think it would show fingerprints less (not). Also got
the Griffin RoadTrip, which is a dock for the iPod in my car and
broadcasts to any FM station I choose. Add a speaker dock for the
office (deductible, right?) and I'm set.
IMHO, you should pick the biggest model you can rationalize, because
you will always fill it up.
--
haggis
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| DJGordon 2005-12-29, 12:56 am |
| What do you mean by the real thing? I'm not saying the iPod is any better or
any worse than any other player, but at least all the other players aren't
proprietary like the iPod. All the other players can use WMP, explorer
interface, whatever, to sync, and the iPod won't (correct me if I'm wrong,
but that's what I understand). You can get universal docks, speakers, FM
tuners, skins, accessories for all the others too. Creative Zen...and who on
here doesn't like Soundblaster brand? Sandisk Sansa, and who on here hasn't
used something made by Sandisk and not liked it? But they aren't the real
thing? Dionna specifically asked for an iPod, but there was just no way I
could afford $195 for her or she would have gotten nothing else, but I still
consider her Sansa very much the real thing and she is now tickled pink with
it.....and just one word about iPod, my niece is still fighting with hers
she got for Christmas now 3 days later. I can't bash anything, but I can
support the Sansa from experience already. My main client sent me an iPod a
couple months ago and I myself couldn't get the hang of the silly buttons.
This was a brand new unit and I could only get one of the buttons to work
and you didn't press on them, you just ran your thumb over them and then it
clicked so fast that I would have to go back through my choices all over
again to try to stop on what I needed. Maybe I'm just iPod challenged
though--I only had it for about three days.
Anyway, Rae, as I said, you pick what you want. I just wanted to give my
opinion from someone who couldn't afford to pay that much for one and I
think we are just as happy as Jeanne, Jeannie, and some of the others who
have voiced their opinions. So far I haven't seen anything except the iTunes
interface itself being much different, so I think it will come down to a
matter of choice. iTunes will only recognize an Apple MP3 player, so if you
are set on synching using iTunes that may be the way you want to go.
However, I will add one more time that I loved how easy it was to drag and
drop the songs from whatever folder I chose onto the Sansa.
Dani
"haggis" <haggis.20seos@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>
> Got myself a 60GB iPod and a 4GB Nano for daughter, and can't imagine
> picking anything but the real thing. I plug it into my USB and it syncs
> with iTunes, I can add in anything I want from iPhoto, I can sync my
> iCal and address book, I can add memos to myself, and yes, it is just
> plain cool. I got the black one because it was different and I was
> silly enough to think it would show fingerprints less (not). Also got
> the Griffin RoadTrip, which is a dock for the iPod in my car and
> broadcasts to any FM station I choose. Add a speaker dock for the
> office (deductible, right?) and I'm set.
>
> IMHO, you should pick the biggest model you can rationalize, because
> you will always fill it up.
>
>
> --
> haggis
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| haggis 2005-12-29, 10:54 am |
|
DJGordon Wrote:
> What do you mean by the real thing?
I'm sorry. By "real thing," I mean the first, the best, the one
everyone else tries (badly) to copy.
Sandisk has never impressed me, Soundblaster sucks. What can I say?
I've been a Mac addict since 1982 (still have little Lisa, the Mac
Classic, to prove it--and it still works) and my loyalty runs deep.
That "drag and drop" capability was theirs first, you know--and Windoze
was designed so badly because they simply turned the Apple GUI upside
down and inside out until it barely functioned, all in the name of
looking "original." iTunes also will play anything I drag into it,
regardless of what file format it is.
The clickwheel is really simple, you know. . . I love zippy!
--
haggis
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| Karen C. 2005-12-29, 10:54 am |
| DJGordon wrote:
> Creative Zen...and who on here doesn't like Soundblaster brand?
> Dionna specifically asked for an iPod, but there was just no way I
> could afford $195 for her or she would have gotten nothing else, but I still
> consider her Sansa very much the real thing and she is now tickled pink with
> it.....
I bought the Creative Zen Neeon for my DD--specifically because I
thought the iPod was way overpriced. For $210 (including tax and
shipping), I got more bang for the buck, and the sound is great.
You get room for 3,000 songs on the Neeon and only 500 for the
iPod Nano. The Neeon also has recording capability and the FM
transmitter. I just couldn't see spending the extra $$$ and
getting less.
Karen C.
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| Ed Chait 2005-12-29, 10:54 am |
|
"haggis" <haggis.20seos@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>
> Got myself a 60GB iPod and a 4GB Nano for daughter, and can't imagine
> picking anything but the real thing. I plug it into my USB and it syncs
> with iTunes, I can add in anything I want from iPhoto, I can sync my
> iCal and address book, I can add memos to myself, and yes, it is just
> plain cool. I got the black one because it was different and I was
> silly enough to think it would show fingerprints less (not). Also got
> the Griffin RoadTrip, which is a dock for the iPod in my car and
> broadcasts to any FM station I choose. Add a speaker dock for the
> office (deductible, right?) and I'm set.
>
> IMHO, you should pick the biggest model you can rationalize, because
> you will always fill it up.
Not if you are going to use it mainly to listen to while exercising. The
hard drive models are a bit bulky for comfortably doing that.
ed
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| Ed Chait 2005-12-29, 10:54 am |
|
"haggis" <haggis.20sjfm@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>
> DJGordon Wrote:
>
> I'm sorry. By "real thing," I mean the first, the best, the one
> everyone else tries (badly) to copy.
Not everyone tries to copy the ipod, nor is it the "best." The sandisk
player (and tons of others) has some features that the ipod lacks, including
an FM receiver and the ability to be used as a voice recorder, which is huge
plus to many people.
The ipod is a decent basic player, comes in cute colors, and is very
popular, but if you read some objective reviews of different players, it
hardly comes out on top consistently.
ed, wondering how long this thread is going to be
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| Jeannie Wilson 2005-12-29, 10:54 am |
| "Ed Chait" <edchait4remove@earthlink.net> wrote here for all to
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> Not if you are going to use it mainly to listen to while exercising.
> The hard drive models are a bit bulky for comfortably doing that.
My IPOD isn't huge size-wize and IIRC it holds 5000 songs. It fits into my
pocket on my jeans. It really isn't bigger than my other MP3 players that
held less songs.
I guess it is like Word and WP people - you get what you like and aren't
likely to "convert" others easily. I, OTOH, had at least two other MP3
players before opting to go for the IPOD. I didn't get it as a voice
recorder, so that option really didn't concern me. It was incredibly easy
to get all the songs off my laptop and CDs onto the IPOD, is incredibly
easy to program and came with the earpieces (standard I believe for any
MP# player), car charger and the FM transmitter. The only "extra" I got
was a case/skin for it so it wouldn't get scratched up.
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| Ed Chait 2005-12-29, 10:54 am |
|
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> "Ed Chait" <edchait4remove@earthlink.net> wrote here for all to
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>
>
> My IPOD isn't huge size-wize and IIRC it holds 5000 songs. It fits into
> my
> pocket on my jeans. It really isn't bigger than my other MP3 players that
> held less songs.
>
> I guess it is like Word and WP people - you get what you like and aren't
> likely to "convert" others easily. I, OTOH, had at least two other MP3
> players before opting to go for the IPOD. I didn't get it as a voice
> recorder, so that option really didn't concern me. It was incredibly easy
> to get all the songs off my laptop and CDs onto the IPOD, is incredibly
> easy to program and came with the earpieces (standard I believe for any
> MP# player), car charger and the FM transmitter. The only "extra" I got
> was a case/skin for it so it wouldn't get scratched up.
Oh, I'm not trying to "convert" anyone. I just think it makes a lot of
sense to really think about what one's needs are and how they plan on using
something before making the purchase.
Yes, I guess it also depends on what type of exercise you do. I ride
bicycles to exercise and size/weight is very important. The only thing that
really works well for me is something that I can clip onto the waistband of
my cycling shorts.
If you like to walk or do other types of exercise, that requirement would
not be as important.
It is an attractive option to have my entire mp3 collection on a portable
player. Both from the aspect of having all my music with me wherever I go,
and from the aspect of having another backup of a lot of stuff that would
not be easy to replace.
I already have a decent RCA Lyra flash memory player that has 128 mb
internal memory and a 256 mb SD card installed, so that takes care of my
exercise needs. If I get another player, it will be a hard drive model that
holds my entire collection. My car's audio system has a 1/8" mini jack
input, so I don't need an FM transmitter. The FM transmitters degrade the
sound significantly, although if you aren't too picky I guess they're OK.
I've spent years on acquiring my collection of South American folk music. I
even keep one backup on DVD's at work in case my house burns down or
something.
ed
| |
| Sandi 2005-12-29, 10:54 am |
| I have to agree with Dani on this. I use a "real thing" that isn't an Ipod,
and hubby the gadget guru chooses name brands when they matter...not here.
Ipods are the Tommy Hilfigers of MP3 players. You're paying for the little
white headphones that tell folks you have an Ipod.
Sandi
"DJGordon" <danigordon@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> What do you mean by the real thing? I'm not saying the iPod is any better
> or any worse than any other player, but at least all the other players
> aren't proprietary like the iPod. All the other players can use WMP,
> explorer interface, whatever, to sync, and the iPod won't (correct me if
> I'm wrong, but that's what I understand). You can get universal docks,
> speakers, FM tuners, skins, accessories for all the others too. Creative
> Zen...and who on here doesn't like Soundblaster brand? Sandisk Sansa, and
> who on here hasn't used something made by Sandisk and not liked it? But
> they aren't the real thing? Dionna specifically asked for an iPod, but
> there was just no way I could afford $195 for her or she would have gotten
> nothing else, but I still consider her Sansa very much the real thing and
> she is now tickled pink with it.....and just one word about iPod, my niece
> is still fighting with hers she got for Christmas now 3 days later. I
> can't bash anything, but I can support the Sansa from experience already.
> My main client sent me an iPod a couple months ago and I myself couldn't
> get the hang of the silly buttons. This was a brand new unit and I could
> only get one of the buttons to work and you didn't press on them, you just
> ran your thumb over them and then it clicked so fast that I would have to
> go back through my choices all over again to try to stop on what I needed.
> Maybe I'm just iPod challenged though--I only had it for about three days.
>
> Anyway, Rae, as I said, you pick what you want. I just wanted to give my
> opinion from someone who couldn't afford to pay that much for one and I
> think we are just as happy as Jeanne, Jeannie, and some of the others who
> have voiced their opinions. So far I haven't seen anything except the
> iTunes interface itself being much different, so I think it will come down
> to a matter of choice. iTunes will only recognize an Apple MP3 player, so
> if you are set on synching using iTunes that may be the way you want to
> go. However, I will add one more time that I loved how easy it was to drag
> and drop the songs from whatever folder I chose onto the Sansa.
>
> Dani
>
> "haggis" <haggis.20seos@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>
>
| |
| Jeannie Wilson 2005-12-29, 10:54 am |
| "Ed Chait" <edchait4remove@earthlink.net> wrote here for all to
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> Yes, I guess it also depends on what type of exercise you do. I ride
> bicycles to exercise and size/weight is very important. The only
> thing that really works well for me is something that I can clip onto
> the waistband of my cycling shorts.
I haven't had that be a problem, even when on my elliptical machine. The
IPOD is very light and very thin. My other MP3 players would always make
the waistband of my shorts/sweats fold over and it would end up flopping
and falling. I like the thin/sleek shape of the IPOD for that main reason.
They also make an arm strap, which I have heard really good things about
but I haven't gotten that yet.
| |
| Jeannie Wilson 2005-12-29, 10:54 am |
| "Sandi" <sanditypes@yahoo.com> wrote here for all to
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> You're paying for the little
> white headphones that tell folks you have an Ipod.
LOL
| |
| Gisele 2005-12-29, 10:54 am |
|
I like my Ipod for the click wheel. No one else has that.
Gisele
--
Gisele
| |
| RaeMorrill 2005-12-29, 10:54 am |
| Thanks, Dani. I note I saw a "protected" on the file I tracked down to
see where music was stored. I wonder if my itunes password is the one it
uses. I don't think I'd heard "ripping" until I went to RS yesterday.
DJGordon wrote:
> Dionna accidentally left it at a friend's house today (ALREADY SHEESH) and
> so I couldn't try it, but at this link is a complete review of it:
>
> http://www.geek.com/news/geeknews/2...50324028713.htm
>
> And at the bottom of the page someone asks the question if you can use it
> with the iTunes and here's what was said:
>
>
> If you have files you ripped with iTunes (and you didn't switch the import
> mode from m4a to mp3) or you purchase songs from iTunes, you will need to
> convert them to mp3 in order to play them on a non-apple device. This is not
> hard (provided you have the password for any protected songs). Check out
> hymn (or I think the new version is Jhymn). Free, and easy.
>
> So I would assume that if you switch the import mode just to make sure you
> are recording (ripping) the songs in MP3 format then you are fine. And since
> MP3 is an MPEG you should be fine. As long as the songs you're ripping or
> downloading aren't in the proprietary Apple format (ACC) and have the
> extensions of .MP3, then you're set to go. But even if you don't use it
> directly with iTunes you can still transfer your songs from iTunes to the
> Sansa because no matter what the files are on your hard drive and the Sansa
> just becomes another drive and you drag and drop. In other words, just like
> I save all my music to the "My Music" folder in the "My Documents" folder, I
> just go there to upload the music, so you just go to your Itunes folder in
> Windows Explorer instead of using the actual iTunes interface and drag and
> drop from there.
>
> Did I mention it's also a voice recorder and a USB flash drive? I think I'll
> be getting me one also. (Also has FM radio) And a universal FM transmitter
> is only $15 at Kohl's.
>
> Dani
>
> "RaeMorrill" <RaeMorrill@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:4nJsf.56231$XC4.4795@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>
>
>
| |
| RaeMorrill 2005-12-29, 10:54 am |
| LOL. Thanks. I figured if I under-bought, a young niece might be tickled
to get it if I upgraded.
haggis wrote:
> Got myself a 60GB iPod and a 4GB Nano for daughter, and can't imagine
> picking anything but the real thing. I plug it into my USB and it syncs
> with iTunes, I can add in anything I want from iPhoto, I can sync my
> iCal and address book, I can add memos to myself, and yes, it is just
> plain cool. I got the black one because it was different and I was
> silly enough to think it would show fingerprints less (not). Also got
> the Griffin RoadTrip, which is a dock for the iPod in my car and
> broadcasts to any FM station I choose. Add a speaker dock for the
> office (deductible, right?) and I'm set.
>
> IMHO, you should pick the biggest model you can rationalize, because
> you will always fill it up.
>
>
| |
| RaeMorrill 2005-12-29, 10:54 am |
| Not set on it. I've only purchased a few songs from itunes, not enough
to feel locked in.
DJGordon wrote:
> What do you mean by the real thing? I'm not saying the iPod is any better or
> any worse than any other player, but at least all the other players aren't
> proprietary like the iPod. All the other players can use WMP, explorer
> interface, whatever, to sync, and the iPod won't (correct me if I'm wrong,
> but that's what I understand). You can get universal docks, speakers, FM
> tuners, skins, accessories for all the others too. Creative Zen...and who on
> here doesn't like Soundblaster brand? Sandisk Sansa, and who on here hasn't
> used something made by Sandisk and not liked it? But they aren't the real
> thing? Dionna specifically asked for an iPod, but there was just no way I
> could afford $195 for her or she would have gotten nothing else, but I still
> consider her Sansa very much the real thing and she is now tickled pink with
> it.....and just one word about iPod, my niece is still fighting with hers
> she got for Christmas now 3 days later. I can't bash anything, but I can
> support the Sansa from experience already. My main client sent me an iPod a
> couple months ago and I myself couldn't get the hang of the silly buttons.
> This was a brand new unit and I could only get one of the buttons to work
> and you didn't press on them, you just ran your thumb over them and then it
> clicked so fast that I would have to go back through my choices all over
> again to try to stop on what I needed. Maybe I'm just iPod challenged
> though--I only had it for about three days.
>
> Anyway, Rae, as I said, you pick what you want. I just wanted to give my
> opinion from someone who couldn't afford to pay that much for one and I
> think we are just as happy as Jeanne, Jeannie, and some of the others who
> have voiced their opinions. So far I haven't seen anything except the iTunes
> interface itself being much different, so I think it will come down to a
> matter of choice. iTunes will only recognize an Apple MP3 player, so if you
> are set on synching using iTunes that may be the way you want to go.
> However, I will add one more time that I loved how easy it was to drag and
> drop the songs from whatever folder I chose onto the Sansa.
>
> Dani
>
> "haggis" <haggis.20seos@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:haggis.20seos@nospam.com...
>
>
>
>
| |
| RaeMorrill 2005-12-29, 10:54 am |
| What do you mean by bulky? I was amazed at how small these others were,
but long as something wasn't any bigger than an old-fashioned walkman
tape player I wouldn't find it too much. In fact, I was thinking how
easy the others would be to lose!
Ed Chait wrote:
> "haggis" <haggis.20seos@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:haggis.20seos@nospam.com...
>
>
>
>
> Not if you are going to use it mainly to listen to while exercising. The
> hard drive models are a bit bulky for comfortably doing that.
>
> ed
>
>
| |
| RaeMorrill 2005-12-29, 10:54 am |
| I have to agree the voice recorder sounds good. I forget the other brand
I glanced at over at RS yesterday, but it had this and you could also
record off the FM radio if you wanted. Would be handy if you needed to
note a phone number or something.
Ed Chait wrote:
> "haggis" <haggis.20sjfm@nospam.com> wrote in message
> news:haggis.20sjfm@nospam.com...
>
>
>
> Not everyone tries to copy the ipod, nor is it the "best." The sandisk
> player (and tons of others) has some features that the ipod lacks, including
> an FM receiver and the ability to be used as a voice recorder, which is huge
> plus to many people.
>
> The ipod is a decent basic player, comes in cute colors, and is very
> popular, but if you read some objective reviews of different players, it
> hardly comes out on top consistently.
>
> ed, wondering how long this thread is going to be
>
>
| |
| RaeMorrill 2005-12-29, 10:54 am |
| When I walked outside with walkman I either held it in my hand or
clipped it to my pants. If I'm on the treadmill sometimes I could put it
in one of the cup holders or something. Of course now and then my arms
swinging would catch the headset cord.
Jeannie Wilson wrote:
> "Ed Chait" <edchait4remove@earthlink.net> wrote here for all to
> seenews:OvRsf.1128$Hl6.62@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net:
>
>
>
>
> I haven't had that be a problem, even when on my elliptical machine. The
> IPOD is very light and very thin. My other MP3 players would always make
> the waistband of my shorts/sweats fold over and it would end up flopping
> and falling. I like the thin/sleek shape of the IPOD for that main reason.
> They also make an arm strap, which I have heard really good things about
> but I haven't gotten that yet.
| |
| Ed Chait 2005-12-29, 10:54 am |
|
"RaeMorrill" <RaeMorrill@aol.com> wrote in message
news:FTTsf.56270$XC4.32824@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> What do you mean by bulky? I was amazed at how small these others were,
> but long as something wasn't any bigger than an old-fashioned walkman tape
> player I wouldn't find it too much. In fact, I was thinking how easy the
> others would be to lose!
>
When you're on a bicycle, it has to *really* be small and light to be
unobtrusive when clipped to your waistband.
No way could I ride a bike with anything remotely the size of a walkman, or
even the size of the larger mp3 players.
That's what I mean by bulky. Everything is relative, of course.
ed
| |
|
| Hey Ed,
Try riding a bike with an oxygen tank strapped over your shoulder. Talk
about bulky!!
Neal
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>
> "RaeMorrill" <RaeMorrill@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:FTTsf.56270$XC4.32824@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>
>
> When you're on a bicycle, it has to *really* be small and light to be
> unobtrusive when clipped to your waistband.
>
> No way could I ride a bike with anything remotely the size of a walkman,
> or even the size of the larger mp3 players.
>
> That's what I mean by bulky. Everything is relative, of course.
>
> ed
>
>
>
| |
| RaeMorrill 2005-12-29, 10:54 am |
| Makes sense. Too many body parts moving. Now what would be really great
for a bike is a wireless one you could strap on your handlebars
Ed Chait wrote:
> "RaeMorrill" <RaeMorrill@aol.com> wrote in message
> news:FTTsf.56270$XC4.32824@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>
>
>
>
> When you're on a bicycle, it has to *really* be small and light to be
> unobtrusive when clipped to your waistband.
>
> No way could I ride a bike with anything remotely the size of a walkman, or
> even the size of the larger mp3 players.
>
> That's what I mean by bulky. Everything is relative, of course.
>
> ed
>
>
>
| |
| Ed Chait 2005-12-29, 5:56 pm |
|
On a related note, if you really want some *good* sound with your mp3
player, chuck whatever headphones come with it and get a set of Sennheiser
PX100 headphones.
These headphones sound just awesome. They list for about $60, but I got a
pair on ebay for $45.
Like night and day as compared to the junk that comes with any mp3 player.
There is also a PX200 model, which is a bit more expensive, but the PX100
has a far better design and sounds better than the PX200.
Oh yeah, for you pod people, it also comes in white.
ed
| |
| haggis 2005-12-29, 5:57 pm |
| Really--bulky? My 60GB iPod is smaller than a deck of cards. Daughter's
Nano is about the same area (longer, but skinnier) than a credit card.
Both slip easily into a tiny holster on your arm or around your neck.
Of course, after carrying a CD/mp3 player, headphones, and half a dozen
CDs in my purse for years, ANYTHING is an improvement! My kids joke that
I can finally stop carrying a backpack. <G>
jeanne
RaeMorrill wrote:
> What do you mean by bulky? I was amazed at how small these others were,
> but long as something wasn't any bigger than an old-fashioned walkman
> tape player I wouldn't find it too much. In fact, I was thinking how
> easy the others would be to lose!
| |
| Jeannie Wilson 2005-12-30, 12:56 am |
| RaeMorrill <RaeMorrill@aol.com> wrote here for all to
seenews:_UTsf.56271$XC4.4368@twister.nyroc.rr.com:
> I have to agree the voice recorder sounds good. I forget the other brand
> I glanced at over at RS yesterday, but it had this and you could also
> record off the FM radio if you wanted. Would be handy if you needed to
> note a phone number or something.
I guess I am just not into those "multi-function" things. I have a small
digital recorder in case I need it for something like that. I just
like to keep my "stuff" separate, I guess.
| |
| Ed Chait 2005-12-30, 12:57 am |
|
"Neal" <nbrown12@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Hey Ed,
>
> Try riding a bike with an oxygen tank strapped over your shoulder. Talk
> about bulky!!
>
> Neal
As much as I love my bike rides, if I needed O2, I would probably rig
something up.
ed
| |
| RaeMorrill 2005-12-30, 12:57 am |
| How bout a bicycle built for 2 with the o2 in the back seat?
Ed Chait wrote:
> "Neal" <nbrown12@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
>
>
>
> As much as I love my bike rides, if I needed O2, I would probably rig
> something up.
>
> ed
>
>
| |
|
| It's not that bulky!
"RaeMorrill" <RaeMorrill@aol.com> wrote in message
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> How bout a bicycle built for 2 with the o2 in the back seat?
>
>
> Ed Chait wrote:
| |
|
| New ideas are always appreciated, Ed.
Actually, it isn't that big and bulky. I use the Invacare Homefill 3-1/2#
tanks with the conserving device. When I get up to a fairly decent speed, my
breathing increases too much for the conserving device or 'puffer' to keep
up. At that time I have to turn the flow to continuous. That does limit the
amount of time I can ride to about an hour and a half. When using the
puffer, it is good for about 6 hours.
Neal
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> "Neal" <nbrown12@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> As much as I love my bike rides, if I needed O2, I would probably rig
> something up.
>
> ed
>
| |
| Ed Chait 2005-12-30, 12:57 am |
|
"Neal" <nbrown12@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> New ideas are always appreciated, Ed.
>
> Actually, it isn't that big and bulky. I use the Invacare Homefill 3-1/2#
> tanks with the conserving device. When I get up to a fairly decent speed,
> my breathing increases too much for the conserving device or 'puffer' to
> keep up. At that time I have to turn the flow to continuous. That does
> limit the amount of time I can ride to about an hour and a half. When
> using the puffer, it is good for about 6 hours.
>
> Neal
If the tank fits under the top tube of the bike, you could just use 3-4 zip
ties to secure it under the tube.
They have reusable zip ties too, so you wouldn't have to use new ones each
time you went for a ride. You could also use some Velcro straps.
Another possibility would be a large water bottle cage. They make some
oversized ones that are intended to hold a 1 liter bottle. If the diameter
of the O2 bottle is similar, that might work also, with some additional zip
ties or Velcro.
ed
| |
|
| The O2 bottle is 11" tall and 5" in diameter, so it is probably too large
for this idea.
Thanks for the idea!
Neal
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> "Neal" <nbrown12@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
>
> If the tank fits under the top tube of the bike, you could just use 3-4
> zip ties to secure it under the tube.
>
> They have reusable zip ties too, so you wouldn't have to use new ones each
> time you went for a ride. You could also use some Velcro straps.
>
> Another possibility would be a large water bottle cage. They make some
> oversized ones that are intended to hold a 1 liter bottle. If the
> diameter of the O2 bottle is similar, that might work also, with some
> additional zip ties or Velcro.
>
> ed
>
>
>
| |
| Ed Chait 2005-12-30, 10:54 am |
|
"Neal" <nbrown12@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> The O2 bottle is 11" tall and 5" in diameter, so it is probably too large
> for this idea.
That would fit under the top tube of pretty much any bike. The top tube is
the long horizontal tube that you straddle when you're on the bike. I think
3-4 Velcro straps would be the way to go as far as securing it.
ed
| |
|
| I will give it a try.
Thanks!
Neal
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> "Neal" <nbrown12@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> That would fit under the top tube of pretty much any bike. The top tube
> is the long horizontal tube that you straddle when you're on the bike. I
> think 3-4 Velcro straps would be the way to go as far as securing it.
>
> ed
>
| |
| Jeannie Wilson 2005-12-30, 10:54 am |
| "Ed Chait" <edchait4remove@earthlink.net> wrote here for all to
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> As much as I love my bike rides, if I needed O2, I would probably rig
> something up.
you could put a little basket on there. LOL
| |
| Anne Vasquez 2005-12-30, 10:54 am |
| I bet Martha's going to love you for this, Ed! ;-)
Ed Chait wrote:
>
>
>
> That would fit under the top tube of pretty much any bike. The top tube is
> the long horizontal tube that you straddle when you're on the bike. I think
> 3-4 Velcro straps would be the way to go as far as securing it.
>
> ed
>
>
| |
| Ed Chait 2005-12-30, 5:55 pm |
|
"Jeannie Wilson" <jwilson421@comcastspamkills.net> wrote in message
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> you could put a little basket on there. LOL
I have one bike with a little basket. That's where the doggies sit.
ed
| |
| Ed Chait 2005-12-30, 5:55 pm |
|
"Anne Vasquez" <annevasquez@NOSPAMhotmail.com> wrote in message
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>I bet Martha's going to love you for this, Ed! ;-)
>
>
>
> Ed Chait wrote:
Always willing to help.
Now, as far as where to mount that turbocharger...................
ed
| |
| Jeannie Wilson 2005-12-31, 10:57 am |
| "Ed Chait" <edchait4remove@earthlink.net> wrote here for all to
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> Always willing to help.
>
> Now, as far as where to mount that turbocharger...................
OH NO! We will have NONE OF THAT! Neal just got out of the hospital!
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