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Travel with animals?

CindyB

2004-11-16, 4:28 pm

It's official.

We'll be moving to Virginia during the first week of December. It's
about a 10 to 12 hour drive from here, depending on the number and
length of stops we make. We'll be taking our cat and dog with us, of
course.

Rascal, the dog, loves to ride in cars, but for anything longer that
around the block, he tends to get sick. Can a dog take Dramamine? (I'm
only half kidding with that question.)

Sheba, the cat, HATES to ride in cars. She's an indoor cat and prefers
never to leave the house. We will definitely need to take her in a cat
carrier. But, what do we do for bathroom breaks for her? I don't
imagine she can "hold it" for the whole trip and she will only use a
litter box.

I'm thinking, get a leash for the cat. Put a small box in a garbage
bag and put some litter in it. After she goes, we can pull the bag off
the box inside out and dispose of it. But, how do we get her to "go"
on command?

Any advice?

Donna in Texas

2004-11-16, 4:28 pm

You can get a tranquilizer from the vet. That's what I've done in the past.

"CindyB" <cburns@twcny.rr.com> wrote in message
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> It's official.
>
> We'll be moving to Virginia during the first week of December. It's
> about a 10 to 12 hour drive from here, depending on the number and
> length of stops we make. We'll be taking our cat and dog with us, of
> course.
>
> Rascal, the dog, loves to ride in cars, but for anything longer that
> around the block, he tends to get sick. Can a dog take Dramamine? (I'm
> only half kidding with that question.)
>
> Sheba, the cat, HATES to ride in cars. She's an indoor cat and prefers
> never to leave the house. We will definitely need to take her in a cat
> carrier. But, what do we do for bathroom breaks for her? I don't
> imagine she can "hold it" for the whole trip and she will only use a
> litter box.
>
> I'm thinking, get a leash for the cat. Put a small box in a garbage
> bag and put some litter in it. After she goes, we can pull the bag off
> the box inside out and dispose of it. But, how do we get her to "go"
> on command?
>
> Any advice?

CindyB

2004-11-16, 4:28 pm

On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 01:52:54 GMT, "Donna in Texas"
<Miladybug1@yahoo.com.com> wrote:

>You can get a tranquilizer from the vet. That's what I've done in the past.
>

But does that help with bathroom breaks on a long drive?

Donna in Texas

2004-11-16, 4:28 pm

Sorry to post again, but just had to share this memory.I've made an 8 hour
trip from San Antonio with one cat in my lap and one under the seat. That
was before pet carriers, a LONG time ago. I put leashes on them, tried to
get them to "go potty" but they wouldn't/couldn't. Mr. Bill got car sick (a
cat), so he woud ride in my lap. Sluggo hit under the seat the entire trip.
I made sure I had a hold on the leashes, though, when making pit stops. My
dog has ridden down to Corpus with us (10 hours) and made it just fine with
potty breaks, but she doesn't get car sick.

Donna in Texas

2004-11-16, 4:28 pm

Where are you moving to in VA? I love VA.

"Donna in Texas" <Miladybug1@yahoo.com.com> wrote in message
news:eadmd.31028$Zr3.24888@fe1.texas.rr.com...
> Sorry to post again, but just had to share this memory.I've made an 8 hour
> trip from San Antonio with one cat in my lap and one under the seat. That
> was before pet carriers, a LONG time ago. I put leashes on them, tried to
> get them to "go potty" but they wouldn't/couldn't. Mr. Bill got car sick
(a
> cat), so he woud ride in my lap. Sluggo hit under the seat the entire
trip.
> I made sure I had a hold on the leashes, though, when making pit stops.
My
> dog has ridden down to Corpus with us (10 hours) and made it just fine
with
> potty breaks, but she doesn't get car sick.
>
>
>
>

Margie

2004-11-16, 4:28 pm

I've made a 10-hour trip with my (indoor) cat a couple of times. The
first time, I took all the precautions you did -- leash, litter box,
food, water. She wasn't interested in any of it. She "held it" until
we arrived at my mom's house. I think maybe the stress shuts down
their bowel/bladder functions, which is probably a good thing. She
did drink a whole lot of water on arrival, though she never did eat
her full amount of food the whole time we were there. The second time
I made the trip, I didn't even bother with the litter box because I
knew she wouldn't use it. She did just fine. If you don't count the
three hours of continuous crying until she finally gave up and settled
down. Maybe I had the music up too loud? <g>

I would avoid tranquilizers if possible, but that's just my opinion.
Sheila is probably the most informed person here about such things;
hopefully she'll chime in.

Congrats on the move. Hope it's a good change.

Margie

On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 01:59:38 GMT, "Donna in Texas"
<Miladybug1@yahoo.com.com> wrote:

> Sorry to post again, but just had to share this memory.I've made an 8 hour
>trip from San Antonio with one cat in my lap and one under the seat. That
>was before pet carriers, a LONG time ago. I put leashes on them, tried to
>get them to "go potty" but they wouldn't/couldn't. Mr. Bill got car sick (a
>cat), so he woud ride in my lap. Sluggo hit under the seat the entire trip.
>I made sure I had a hold on the leashes, though, when making pit stops. My
>dog has ridden down to Corpus with us (10 hours) and made it just fine with
>potty breaks, but she doesn't get car sick.
>
>
>

Jeannie Wilson

2004-11-16, 4:28 pm

CindyB <cburns@twcny.rr.com> scribbled here
news:c7mip0906kik6qtrgcivj0k2msenorbl50@4ax.com:

> I'm thinking, get a leash for the cat. Put a small box in a garbage
> bag and put some litter in it. After she goes, we can pull the bag off
> the box inside out and dispose of it. But, how do we get her to "go"
> on command?

I would check with the vet and see if he/she has any advice. My friend's
animals had to be sedated when they moved about 10 hours away. Made the
trip much more pleasant for all of them.

Susan Mitchell

2004-11-16, 4:28 pm

My vet recommends avoiding tranquilizers as well as the cat is still
extremely stressed, just can't do anything about it. My cats turn into
feral cats in the car. They scream and claw. Always have them in carriers.
The female will urinate immediately and not give a rats behind about looking
for a litter box. I line the carrier with plastic and a thick towel. I no
longer take her in for urine samples as she always leaves them in the
carrier. If yours gets that upset she may do that, but she may also "hold"
it for the whole trips as cats who are upset also do that. Definitely a
carrier. Line it with hefty bags and thick towels and have spare ones
available. Maybe try a small liter box and small water don't bother with
worrying about food she'll be too stressed to eat, I'm sure.

--
Sue -- Firefighter mom -- Still Rabid UW Dawg Fan!
(to reply send to medlawtrans@comcast.net)
"Margie" <nomoremargiesjunk@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> I've made a 10-hour trip with my (indoor) cat a couple of times. The
> first time, I took all the precautions you did -- leash, litter box,
> food, water. She wasn't interested in any of it. She "held it" until
> we arrived at my mom's house. I think maybe the stress shuts down
> their bowel/bladder functions, which is probably a good thing. She
> did drink a whole lot of water on arrival, though she never did eat
> her full amount of food the whole time we were there. The second time
> I made the trip, I didn't even bother with the litter box because I
> knew she wouldn't use it. She did just fine. If you don't count the
> three hours of continuous crying until she finally gave up and settled
> down. Maybe I had the music up too loud? <g>
>
> I would avoid tranquilizers if possible, but that's just my opinion.
> Sheila is probably the most informed person here about such things;
> hopefully she'll chime in.
>
> Congrats on the move. Hope it's a good change.
>
> Margie
>
> On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 01:59:38 GMT, "Donna in Texas"
> <Miladybug1@yahoo.com.com> wrote:
>
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SANDITYPES

2004-11-16, 4:28 pm

I just took a 15-minute drive to the vet with my Sammy yowling all the way, so
I don't have anything intelligent to offer...but I had to ask: Where are you
moving to?

Sandi (in beautiful Virginia)

Donna in Texas

2004-11-16, 4:28 pm

DEFINITELY use a carrier! Don't know how I made it on that trip long time
ago without getting my eyes clawed out. Got lucky, I guess.

RaeMorrill

2004-11-16, 4:28 pm

>Mr. Bill got car sick (a
>cat), so he woud ride in my lap. Sluggo hit under the seat the entire trip.
[vbcol=seagreen]

LOL at Mr. Bill and Sluggo. I've never travelled any distance with an adult
cat. Kitten once in a carrier and a little covered potty box. Dogs have never
been a problem. They all seem to like to ride and we just take them out to
potty when we stop to do the same. I imagine you could give the dog something
that would help with car sickness but wouldn't sedate so much they can't get up
and take a walk.

Rae Morrill in Maine
"Ya can't get theyuh from heeah"
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RaeMorrill

2004-11-16, 4:28 pm

>I didn't know that. I learn something here all the time. I like you guys!![vbcol=seagreen]
[vbcol=seagreen]

It has been said often here that someone here knows the answer to just about
any question (MT or not). If they don't, they at least know someone who does.

We've shared recipes, cleaning tips, animal care tips, and I think the list is
pretty much endless.

Rae Morrill in Maine
"Ya can't get theyuh from heeah"
_______________________________
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14tonks

2004-11-16, 4:29 pm

If you are going to use a tranquilizer, you had better have a trial run on
the intended dose before the trip. Cats can be a bit idiosyncratic about
those things, and you could end up with one of the "nasty drunks", LOL.
Personally, I have never tranquilized a cat to travel with it, but I suppose
there may be cases where it might be necessary.

As for bathroom facilities - we used to travel with a collapsing crate or
two in the back of the station wagon, outfitted with shelves, food, water,
and litter pans, that then went on into the motel room with us, but we did a
lot of traveling by car. Some of our cats would use the facilities when in
motion; some would absolutely refuse, even if it was an all day drive. I
have no idea where they put it, but they held it until we got them inside
the room. Flying is another matter, of course. I used to travel with
collapsible cardboard litter pans and a big Ziploc bag of flushable litter
in my carryon, as well as food, can opener, etc., because you never know
when/where you might get delayed or stranded. Again, some of mine simply
wouldn't go in strange places. Then there was Fannie, my original
unflappable Tonk. She happily did her duty in any ladies room stall in the
world--just put down her pan and let her at it. She would even do it in the
air, although the stewardesses tended to look a bit askance when my mother
headed to the plane rest room with her cat carrier, LOL. But then Fannie
did P.R. for the original Madison Square Garden show riding around on my
shoulder in the middle of noise that had the rest of the felines present
trying to dig through the bottom of their pens to safety. (To this day, I
wonder what P.R. guy thought it was a good idea to put on a cheerleading
demonstration 5 feet in front of a bunch of cat cages.)
--

Sheila
To reply to me, add the prefix real. to my address.

"Margie" <nomoremargiesjunk@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:61oip0tne3jmh43kltbte0hj1jbn5l4idm@4ax.com...
> I've made a 10-hour trip with my (indoor) cat a couple of times. The
> first time, I took all the precautions you did -- leash, litter box,
> food, water. She wasn't interested in any of it. She "held it" until
> we arrived at my mom's house. I think maybe the stress shuts down
> their bowel/bladder functions, which is probably a good thing. She
> did drink a whole lot of water on arrival, though she never did eat
> her full amount of food the whole time we were there. The second time
> I made the trip, I didn't even bother with the litter box because I
> knew she wouldn't use it. She did just fine. If you don't count the
> three hours of continuous crying until she finally gave up and settled
> down. Maybe I had the music up too loud? <g>
>
> I would avoid tranquilizers if possible, but that's just my opinion.
> Sheila is probably the most informed person here about such things;
> hopefully she'll chime in.
>
> Congrats on the move. Hope it's a good change.
>
> Margie
>
> On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 01:59:38 GMT, "Donna in Texas"
> <Miladybug1@yahoo.com.com> wrote:
>
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14tonks

2004-11-16, 4:29 pm

I would recommend shredded paper towels at the bottom of the carrier instead
of, or in addition to, a towel. Much easier to clean out and dump any mess
and reline the carrier using those. If you have a paper shredder you use
for business, just run a bunch of paper towels through it and use that.
--

Sheila
To reply to me, add the prefix real. to my address.

"Susan Mitchell" <readthemessage@nobody.com> wrote in message
news:jzdmd.511470$mD.177379@attbi_s02...
> My vet recommends avoiding tranquilizers as well as the cat is still
> extremely stressed, just can't do anything about it. My cats turn into
> feral cats in the car. They scream and claw. Always have them in
carriers.
> The female will urinate immediately and not give a rats behind about
looking
> for a litter box. I line the carrier with plastic and a thick towel. I
no
> longer take her in for urine samples as she always leaves them in the
> carrier. If yours gets that upset she may do that, but she may also
"hold"
> it for the whole trips as cats who are upset also do that. Definitely a
> carrier. Line it with hefty bags and thick towels and have spare ones
> available. Maybe try a small liter box and small water don't bother with
> worrying about food she'll be too stressed to eat, I'm sure.
>
> --
> Sue -- Firefighter mom -- Still Rabid UW Dawg Fan!
> (to reply send to medlawtrans@comcast.net)
> "Margie" <nomoremargiesjunk@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:61oip0tne3jmh43kltbte0hj1jbn5l4idm@4ax.com...
> hour
> That
> to
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> (a
> trip.
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> with
>
>

CindyB

2004-11-16, 4:29 pm

On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 02:04:55 GMT, "Donna in Texas"
<Miladybug1@yahoo.com.com> wrote:

>Where are you moving to in VA? I love VA.
>

Just south of Lynchburg.

CindyB

2004-11-16, 4:29 pm

On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 02:08:02 GMT, Margie
<nomoremargiesjunk@earthlink.net> wrote:

>I've made a 10-hour trip with my (indoor) cat a couple of times. The
>first time, I took all the precautions you did -- leash, litter box,
>food, water. She wasn't interested in any of it. She "held it" until
>we arrived at my mom's house. I think maybe the stress shuts down
>their bowel/bladder functions, which is probably a good thing. She
>did drink a whole lot of water on arrival, though she never did eat
>her full amount of food the whole time we were there. The second time
>I made the trip, I didn't even bother with the litter box because I
>knew she wouldn't use it. She did just fine. If you don't count the
>three hours of continuous crying until she finally gave up and settled
>down. Maybe I had the music up too loud? <g>
>
>I would avoid tranquilizers if possible, but that's just my opinion.
>Sheila is probably the most informed person here about such things;
>hopefully she'll chime in.
>
>Congrats on the move. Hope it's a good change.
>
>Margie
>

It's a very good change, thanks. Hubby retired in May and we've been
wanting to move south for years. We're renting for a while to make
sure it's the right move for us but I really think it will be.

CindyB

2004-11-16, 4:29 pm

On 16 Nov 2004 02:31:48 GMT, sanditypes@aol.comshazbot (SANDITYPES)
wrote:

>I just took a 15-minute drive to the vet with my Sammy yowling all the way, so
>I don't have anything intelligent to offer...but I had to ask: Where are you
>moving to?
>
>Sandi (in beautiful Virginia)

Just south of Lynchburg. We have a son and his wife in Virginia Beach
and another in Annapolis, MD, so we'll be closer to them now. Not on
top of each other but close enough to visit once a month or so. I'm
very excited. I've always said that, if I moved out of New York State,
I'd want to live in Virginia.

Judity01

2004-11-16, 4:29 pm

>I just took a 15-minute drive to the vet with my Sammy yowling all the way

You're lucky it was just yowling. I once took a very nervous cat to the vets
four miles away. She was in a carrier, thank goodness, for besides the
yowling, she emptied both her bowel and bladder in those few minutes. I had to
hand a wet stinky cat over to the vet for her yearly shots during which she bit
the nurse's thumb.

Judity

Susan Mitchell

2004-11-16, 4:29 pm

Great idea!!!

--
Sue -- Firefighter mom -- Still Rabid UW Dawg Fan!
(to reply send to medlawtrans@comcast.net)
"14tonks" <mail.2.14tonks@recursor.net> wrote in message
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> I would recommend shredded paper towels at the bottom of the carrier
instead
> of, or in addition to, a towel. Much easier to clean out and dump any
mess
> and reline the carrier using those. If you have a paper shredder you use
> for business, just run a bunch of paper towels through it and use that.
> --
>
> Sheila
> To reply to me, add the prefix real. to my address.
>
>
> "Susan Mitchell" <readthemessage@nobody.com> wrote in message
> news:jzdmd.511470$mD.177379@attbi_s02...
> carriers.
> looking
> no
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Susan Mitchell

2004-11-16, 4:29 pm

That is what my calico is a wet stinky cat that screams the whole way to the
vet. The siamese doesn't pee but he yells. He's getting better. I think
he yells more because of the calico. I think I could get him used to the
car but forget about it with her!

--
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(to reply send to medlawtrans@comcast.net)
"Judity01" <judity01@aol.com> wrote in message
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way[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> You're lucky it was just yowling. I once took a very nervous cat to the
vets
> four miles away. She was in a carrier, thank goodness, for besides the
> yowling, she emptied both her bowel and bladder in those few minutes. I
had to
> hand a wet stinky cat over to the vet for her yearly shots during which
she bit
> the nurse's thumb.
>
> Judity
>
>

SANDITYPES

2004-11-17, 11:10 am

>Just south of Lynchburg. We have a son and his wife in Virginia Beach
>and another in Annapolis, MD, so we'll be closer to them now. Not on
>top of each other but close enough to visit once a month or so. I'm
>very excited. I've always said that, if I moved out of New York State,
>I'd want to live in Virginia.
>
Great choice! We live just outside Roanoke, but hubby works in Lynchburg and
it's very nice in that area. But bear in mind when the first snow hits that
folks don't drive so well in it here as they do up north.

Sandi

Donna/Tx.

2004-11-17, 11:10 am

I looked at my post and thought, that doesn't make sense. I meant I didn't
realize cats made "fear" smells, not that I didn't realize they would have
"accidents" when they are afraid. I used to pad the carrier when traveling,
but the only travel I ever took cats was moving; and I don't plan to do that
any time soon (unfortunately). I don't put anything in the carrier just to
go to the vet, but neither of my present cats have ever had "accidents".
Simba sheds a lot when I take him, though.

Rae, I am always sharing things from this newsgroup with my sister and
step-mom-in-law. They get a kick out of them. And ya'll are always so
helpful. Speak of, I have a shortcut question, but I'll start a topic for
it.

Donna/Tex.

"RaeMorrill" <raemorrill@aol.com.com> wrote in message
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guys!![vbcol=seagreen]
>
>
> It has been said often here that someone here knows the answer to just
about
> any question (MT or not). If they don't, they at least know someone who
does.
>
> We've shared recipes, cleaning tips, animal care tips, and I think the
list is
> pretty much endless.
>
> Rae Morrill in Maine
> "Ya can't get theyuh from heeah"
> _______________________________
> Spam mailers WILL be reported to their respective postmasters and AOL
TOSSPAM!
>
>

CindyB

2004-11-17, 11:10 am

On 17 Nov 2004 00:56:37 GMT, sanditypes@aol.comshazbot (SANDITYPES)
wrote:

>Great choice! We live just outside Roanoke, but hubby works in Lynchburg and
>it's very nice in that area. But bear in mind when the first snow hits that
>folks don't drive so well in it here as they do up north.

>
>Sandi

Yeah, but you measure your snow in inches. We measure it in feet. In
fact, the day we accepted the purchase offer on our current house, we
woke up to snow on the ground.

My brother says he's going to call me once a week to see how long it
takes me to develop a drawl. I told him that I'd have to actually
leave the house and interact with other humans for that to happen <G>.

Donna in Texas

2004-11-20, 11:25 am

Susan Mitchell

2004-11-20, 11:25 am

14tonks

2004-11-20, 11:25 am

14tonks

2004-11-20, 11:25 am

Donna in Texas

2004-11-20, 11:25 am

CindyB

2004-11-20, 11:25 am

Jeannie Wilson

2004-11-20, 11:25 am

Donna in Texas

2004-11-20, 11:25 am

DEFINITELY use a carrier! Don't know how I made it on that trip long time
ago without getting my eyes clawed out. Got lucky, I guess.

RaeMorrill

2004-11-20, 11:25 am

Beauxx516

2004-11-20, 11:25 am

>You don't want to find yourself trying to handle a
>traffic emergency only to discover a cat under the brake pedals or
>scrambling around your feet. There's also the risk of the cat getting
>out and getting lost when you stop for gas or for a break. Even if you
>don't normally make her wear a collar, it's a good idea to have one on
>her with your name and phone number, just in case.

Just a suggestion. I don't know how cats do with halters, but you may want to
try this. My little Beaux, a 14-year-old SPCA terrier mutt, always rides in
the BACK seat. (Air bags in the front would kill him instantly). He wears a
halter, I attach a leash to it, and attach that to the child seat loop in the
back window, very secure. He has room to move around, but not enough room that
he'd hit the back of the front seat if I should have to make a sudden stop.
Also, I always put a cup of fresh water in the cup holder for him. I make
fairly frequent stops because his imaginary prostate works.

One more thing, make SURE you lock the automatic window controls. If your pet
should put a foot on the control, the window could come down, or worse, UP, on
his neck.

Happy traveling.

Marie in Houston

CindyB

2004-11-21, 11:19 am

On Tue, 16 Nov 2004 02:04:55 GMT, "Donna in Texas"
<Miladybug1@yahoo.com.com> wrote:

>Where are you moving to in VA? I love VA.
>

Just south of Lynchburg.

Judity01

2004-11-21, 11:19 am