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what bacteria cause cavities?
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| I would like to know exactly what bacteria is involved in tooth decay.
Seems to me by knowing and understanding the bacteria, a person might
be able to completely prevent tooth decay.
Some common substance should be able to kill the bacteria.
So anyone know? I've done a Google search and never found the actual
bacteria.
Would love to know if anyone has old grandmother remedies
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| silverblue001@hotmail.com 2005-01-31, 11:16 am |
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Zip wrote:
> I would like to know exactly what bacteria is involved in tooth
decay.
>From what I've *read*: mutans streptococci and lactobacilli ...
> Seems to me by knowing and understanding the bacteria, a person might
> be able to completely prevent tooth decay.
>
> Some common substance should be able to kill the bacteria.
>
> So anyone know? I've done a Google search and never found the actual
> bacteria.
>
> Would love to know if anyone has old grandmother remedies
Brushing and flossing is quite effective at preventing tooth decay. =)
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| silverblue001@hotmail.com 2005-01-31, 11:16 am |
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Zip wrote:
> I would like to know exactly what bacteria is involved in =ADtooth
decay
>From what I've *read*: mutans streptococci and lactobacill=ADi ...
> Seems to me by knowing and understanding the bacteria, a p=ADerson
might
> be able to completely prevent tooth decay.
> Some common substance should be able to kill the bacteria.
> So anyone know? I've done a Google search and never found =ADthe
actual
> bacteria.
> Would love to know if anyone has old grandmother remedies
Brushing and flossing is quite effective at preventing tooth=AD decay.
=3D)
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| silverblue001@hotmail.com 2005-01-31, 11:16 am |
| >From what I've *read*: mutans streptococci and lactobacill=AD=ADi ...
Brushing and flossing is quite effective at preventing tooth=AD=AD decay.
=3D)
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| silverblue001@hotmail.com 2005-01-31, 11:16 am |
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Zip wrote:
> I would like to know exactly what bacteria is involved in tooth
decay.
> Seems to me by knowing and understanding the bacteria, a person might
> be able to completely prevent tooth decay.
>
> Some common substance should be able to kill the bacteria.
>
> So anyone know? I've done a Google search and never found the actual
> bacteria.
>
> Would love to know if anyone has old grandmother remedies
>From what I've *read*: mutans streptococci and lactobacill=AD=ADi ...
Brushing and flossing are quite effective at preventing tooth=AD=AD
decay.=20
=3D)
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| Roy Brown 2005-01-31, 11:16 am |
| Guess you did not look too hard! I did a search for ("tooth decay" bacteria) and
came up with 78,300 English pages for "tooth decay" bacteria. (0.20 seconds)
Here is a simple description
http://www.mchoralhealth.org/OpenWide/mod1_0.htm
--
Roy
rem NADA to reply
"Zip" <dragonmasterzip@charter.net> wrote in message
news:1107146329.580825.153010@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
|I would like to know exactly what bacteria is involved in tooth decay.
| Seems to me by knowing and understanding the bacteria, a person might
| be able to completely prevent tooth decay.
|
| Some common substance should be able to kill the bacteria.
|
| So anyone know? I've done a Google search and never found the actual
| bacteria.
|
| Would love to know if anyone has old grandmother remedies
|
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| silverblue001@hotmail.com 2005-01-31, 11:16 am |
| Dammit ...what I was *trying* to say was:
>From what I've *read*: mutans streptococci and lactobacill=AD=AD=ADi ...
Brushing and flossing are quite effective at preventing toot=ADh=AD=AD
decay.=20
=3D)
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| silverblue001@hotmail.com 2005-01-31, 11:16 am |
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silverblue...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Dammit ...what I was *trying* to say was:
>
..=2E.[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> Brushing and flossing are quite effective at preventing toot=ADh=AD=AD
> decay.
> =3D)
I give up. Dunno where the extra arrow keeps coming from. Now I'm
talking to myself. ;) *Sigh*
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| Joel M. Eichen 2005-01-31, 11:16 am |
| On Mon, 31 Jan 2005 00:11:19 -0500, "Roy Brown"
<roybrown@sympatico.caNADA> wrote:
>Guess you did not look too hard! I did a search for ("tooth decay" bacteria) and
>came up with 78,300 English pages for "tooth decay" bacteria. (0.20 seconds)
>
>Here is a simple description
>
>http://www.mchoralhealth.org/OpenWide/mod1_0.htm
Or in a word, lactic acid! (two words!)
Bacteria excrete lactic acid which being an acid lowers the pKa of
hydroyapetite salts. This makes them increasingly soluble. That is
decay!
The sugar is the food that bacteria feast upon!
**
On a similar note, YEAST will ferment sugar (as in grapes) to Et-OH,
the short name for C2H5OH or ethanol. It is also known as grain
alcohol as one can get it from distilling various grains such as rye,
barley, or even potato, stuff like that.
That fermentation process produces rye, beer, and vodka in the above
instances!
Differences between bacteria and yeast? Bacteria are unicellular while
yeast are multicellular. Prokaryotes versus Eukaryotes.
Bactreria - - - - - - > possess no mitochondia and no electron
transport system to oxidize lactate to O2 and H2O.
Joel
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| Joel M. Eichen 2005-01-31, 11:16 am |
| On 30 Jan 2005 21:20:50 -0800, silverblue001@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>Zip wrote:
>decay.
>
There is a little list of around 40. I just saw a chart in the
November 2004 issue of the Journal of the American Dental Association
showing the reduction in the 40 after professional prophylaxis ~ the
dental hy-geenist doing her 'thang!
Joel
[vbcol=seagreen]
>
Nope.
Unless you are the Boy in the Bubble.
Bacteria are with us!
[vbcol=seagreen]
Yup, many things kill, but they will be b-a-a-aa-a-a-a-a-a-ack!
[vbcol=seagreen]
>Brushing and flossing is quite effective at preventing tooth decay. =)
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| Joel M. Eichen 2005-01-31, 11:16 am |
| On 30 Jan 2005 21:25:55 -0800, silverblue001@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>Brushing and flossing is quite effective at preventing tooth__ decay.
>=)
True. Brush 15 times a day and floss out the bits of food between and
you should be fine.
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| Joel M. Eichen 2005-01-31, 11:16 am |
| On 30 Jan 2005 21:35:08 -0800, silverblue001@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>silverblue...@hotmail.com wrote:
>...
>
>I give up. Dunno where the extra arrow keeps coming from. Now I'm
>talking to myself. ;) *Sigh*
Welcome to the Club!
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| angeleyes_immortality@hotmail.com 2005-01-31, 11:16 am |
|
Joel M. Eichen wrote:
> On 30 Jan 2005 21:20:50 -0800, silverblue001@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
> There is a little list of around 40. I just saw a chart in the
> November 2004 issue of the Journal of the American Dental Association
> showing the reduction in the 40 after professional prophylaxis ~ the
> dental hy-geenist doing her 'thang!
Yeah, I figured there were more. That's kinda cool. ;)
>
>
> Joel
>
>
might[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> Nope.
>
> Unless you are the Boy in the Bubble.
>
> Bacteria are with us!
>
actual[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> Yup, many things kill, but they will be b-a-a-aa-a-a-a-a-a-ack!
Of course.
[vbcol=seagreen]
>
>
=)
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| angeleyes_immortality@hotmail.com 2005-01-31, 11:16 am |
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Joel M. Eichen wrote:
> On 30 Jan 2005 21:25:55 -0800, silverblue001@hotmail.com wrote:
>
..=2E.[vbcol=seagreen]
decay.[vbcol=seagreen]
>
>
> True. Brush 15 times a day and floss out the bits of food between and
> you should be fine.
Hehehehehe ...
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| silverblue001@hotmail.com 2005-01-31, 11:16 am |
|
Joel M. Eichen wrote:[vbcol=seagreen]
> On 30 Jan 2005 21:20:50 -0800, silverblue001@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
> There is a little list of around 40. I just saw a chart in the
> November 2004 issue of the Journal of the American Dental Association
> showing the reduction in the 40 after professional prophylaxis ~ the
> dental hy-geenist doing her 'thang!
>
>
> Joel
>
>
might[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> Nope.
>
> Unless you are the Boy in the Bubble.
>
> Bacteria are with us!
>
actual[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> Yup, many things kill, but they will be b-a-a-aa-a-a-a-a-a-ack!
>
>
=)
Hey that's pretty cool! I just found the article. Here's the list:
ACTINOMYCES PATHOGENS
Actinomyces gerencseriae
Actinomyces israelii
Actinomyces naeslundii 1
Actinomyces naeslundii 2
Actinobacillus actinomycetemcomitans
Porphyromonas gingivalis
Tannerella forsythensis
Treponema denticola
GREEN COMPLEX PURPLE COMPLEX
Capnocytophaga gingivalis
Capnocytophaga ochracea
Capnocytophaga sputigena
Eikenella corrodens
Actinomyces odontolyticus
Veillonella parvula
ORANGE COMPLEX STREPTOCOCCI
Campylobacter gracilis
Campylobacter rectus
Campylobacter showae
Eubacterium nodatum
Fusobacterium nucleatum s.s. nucleatum
Fusobacterium nucleatum s.s. polymorphum
Fusobacterium nucleatum s.s. vincentii
Fusobacterium periodonticum
Peptostreptococcus micros
Prevotella intermedia
Prevotella nigrescens
Streptococcus anginosus
Streptococcus constellatus
Streptococcus gordonii
Streptococcus intermedius
Streptococcus mitis
Streptococcus oralis
Streptococcus sanguis
NOT ASSIGNED TO A GROUP
Eubacterium saburreum
Gemella morbillorum
Leptotrichia buccalis
Neisseria mucosa
Propionibacterium acnes
Prevotella melaninogenica
Selenomonas noxia
Treponema socranskii
You learn something new every day. =) Now to abandon my inferior
sources of education. :D
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| silverblue001@hotmail.com 2005-01-31, 11:16 am |
|
Joel M. Eichen wrote:
> On 30 Jan 2005 21:25:55 -0800, silverblue001@hotmail.com wrote:
>
..=2E.[vbcol=seagreen]
decay.[vbcol=seagreen]
>
>
> True. Brush 15 times a day and floss out the bits of food between and
> you should be fine.
Hehehehehe ...not quite.
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| silverblue001@hotmail.com 2005-01-31, 11:16 am |
| Yeah, I forgot to add that's a list of "40 representative bacterial
species".
There should really be a way to edit posts ...
silverblue...@hotmail.com wrote:
> Joel M. Eichen wrote:
Association[vbcol=seagreen]
the[vbcol=seagreen]
> might
> actual
decay.[vbcol=seagreen]
> =)
>
> Hey that's pretty cool! I just found the article. Here's the list:
>
> ACTINOMYCES PATHOGENS
> Actinomyces gerencseriae
> Actinomyces israelii
> Actinomyces naeslundii 1
> Actinomyces naeslundii 2
> Actinobacillus actinomycetemcomitans
> Porphyromonas gingivalis
> Tannerella forsythensis
> Treponema denticola
>
> GREEN COMPLEX PURPLE COMPLEX
> Capnocytophaga gingivalis
> Capnocytophaga ochracea
> Capnocytophaga sputigena
> Eikenella corrodens
> Actinomyces odontolyticus
> Veillonella parvula
>
> ORANGE COMPLEX STREPTOCOCCI
> Campylobacter gracilis
> Campylobacter rectus
> Campylobacter showae
> Eubacterium nodatum
> Fusobacterium nucleatum s.s. nucleatum
> Fusobacterium nucleatum s.s. polymorphum
> Fusobacterium nucleatum s.s. vincentii
> Fusobacterium periodonticum
> Peptostreptococcus micros
> Prevotella intermedia
> Prevotella nigrescens
> Streptococcus anginosus
> Streptococcus constellatus
> Streptococcus gordonii
> Streptococcus intermedius
> Streptococcus mitis
> Streptococcus oralis
> Streptococcus sanguis
>
> NOT ASSIGNED TO A GROUP
> Eubacterium saburreum
> Gemella morbillorum
> Leptotrichia buccalis
> Neisseria mucosa
> Propionibacterium acnes
> Prevotella melaninogenica
> Selenomonas noxia
> Treponema socranskii
>
> You learn something new every day. =) Now to abandon my inferior
> sources of education. :D
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| silverblue001@hotmail.com 2005-01-31, 11:16 am |
| Yeah, I forgot to add that that's a list of "40 representative
ba=ADcterial
species".
There should really be a way to edit posts ...
silverblue001@hotmail.com wrote:
> Joel M. Eichen wrote:
Association[vbcol=seagreen]
the[vbcol=seagreen]
> might
> actual
decay.[vbcol=seagreen]
> =3D)
>
> Hey that's pretty cool! I just found the article. Here's the list:
>
> ACTINOMYCES PATHOGENS
> Actinomyces gerencseriae
> Actinomyces israelii
> Actinomyces naeslundii 1
> Actinomyces naeslundii 2
> Actinobacillus actinomycetemcomitans
> Porphyromonas gingivalis
> Tannerella forsythensis
> Treponema denticola
>
> GREEN COMPLEX PURPLE COMPLEX
> Capnocytophaga gingivalis
> Capnocytophaga ochracea
> Capnocytophaga sputigena
> Eikenella corrodens
> Actinomyces odontolyticus
> Veillonella parvula
>
> ORANGE COMPLEX STREPTOCOCCI
> Campylobacter gracilis
> Campylobacter rectus
> Campylobacter showae
> Eubacterium nodatum
> Fusobacterium nucleatum s.s. nucleatum
> Fusobacterium nucleatum s.s. polymorphum
> Fusobacterium nucleatum s.s. vincentii
> Fusobacterium periodonticum
> Peptostreptococcus micros
> Prevotella intermedia
> Prevotella nigrescens
> Streptococcus anginosus
> Streptococcus constellatus
> Streptococcus gordonii
> Streptococcus intermedius
> Streptococcus mitis
> Streptococcus oralis
> Streptococcus sanguis
>
> NOT ASSIGNED TO A GROUP
> Eubacterium saburreum
> Gemella morbillorum
> Leptotrichia buccalis
> Neisseria mucosa
> Propionibacterium acnes
> Prevotella melaninogenica
> Selenomonas noxia
> Treponema socranskii
>
> You learn something new every day. =3D) Now to abandon my inferior
> sources of education. :D
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| James Goforth 2005-02-01, 2:29 pm |
| But how is S. Mutans initially introduced into a person's mouth? I
understand it's usually from the mother, but does that mean from breast
milk--or mother kissing baby?
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| MC60614 2005-02-01, 2:29 pm |
| I need a remedy for topical infection. The kind that come and go but neverjust
go away. HELP ...MC
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| silverblue001@hotmail.com 2005-02-01, 2:29 pm |
|
James Goforth wrote:
> But how is S. Mutans initially introduced into a person's mouth? I
> understand it's usually from the mother, but does that mean from
breast
> milk--or mother kissing baby?
Hmmm...
"ECC is an infectious disease primarily related to cavity-causing
bacteria called streptococci mutans ("strep mutans" for short). Strep
mutans are passed from mother to child through frequent and intimate
contact (for example, through saliva)."
http://www.cdha.ca/content/oralcare.../facts_baby.asp
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| Zip wrote:
> I would like to know exactly what bacteria is involved in tooth decay.
> Seems to me by knowing and understanding the bacteria, a person might
> be able to completely prevent tooth decay.
>
> Some common substance should be able to kill the bacteria.
How do you figure that "Some common substance should be able to kill the
bacteria."?
Even if you could kill all the bacteria in your mouth by who-knows-what
method, some other bacteria would find a way to make a living from the
dead cells and food in your mouth, and I would expect that the newcomers
would be worse than what you started with.
I would sooner look at the possiblity of seeding the mouth with
desirable bacteria (as in probiotics) the way some people do with
acidophilus milk, the desirable property being that they supplant
decay-causing bacteria .
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| Joel M. Eichen wrote:
> On 30 Jan 2005 21:25:55 -0800, silverblue001@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
>
> True. Brush 15 times a day and floss out the bits of food between and
> you should be fine.
Joel, presumably there is some hidden assertion somewhere in your
remark, but I wasn't able to discern it.
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|
| Matt wrote:
> Zip wrote:
>
>
>
> How do you figure that "Some common substance should be able to kill the
> bacteria."?
>
> Even if you could kill all the bacteria in your mouth by who-knows-what
> method, some other bacteria would find a way to make a living from the
> dead cells and food in your mouth, and I would expect that the newcomers
> would be worse than what you started with.
>
> I would sooner look at the possiblity of seeding the mouth with
> desirable bacteria (as in probiotics) the way some people do with
> acidophilus milk, the desirable property being that they supplant
> decay-causing bacteria .
Not to indicate that acidophilus has much to do with oral bacteria:
rather it is for improving the intestinal flora probiotically.
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| Joel M. Eichen 2005-02-03, 10:48 am |
| On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 17:55:47 GMT, Matt <matt@themattfella.zzzz.com>
wrote:
>Joel M. Eichen wrote:
>
>
>Joel, presumably there is some hidden assertion somewhere in your
>remark, but I wasn't able to discern it.
Nope, some people are rigorous with their brushing and it pays off.
Joel
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| Joel M. Eichen wrote:
> On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 17:55:47 GMT, Matt <matt@themattfella.zzzz.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Nope, some people are rigorous with their brushing and it pays off.
>
> Joel
So you were just running off at the mouth?
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| Joel M. Eichen 2005-02-03, 10:48 am |
| On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 05:36:59 GMT, Matt <matt@themattfella.zzzz.com>
wrote:
>
>So you were just running off at the mouth?
Nope. I am reminding people that gettin' some phantasmagorical cure
for decay won't happen. Paying every day attention to brushing and
removing bits of food will pay off by greatly reducing decay.
Sensible versus fantasy!
Nice try though!
Joel
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| Joel M. Eichen 2005-02-03, 10:48 am |
|
***************
Where did you find the
article on the internet,
by the way?
Joel
*************
On 31 Jan 2005 05:54:33 -0800, silverblue001@hotmail.com wrote:
>Yeah, I forgot to add that that's a list of "40 representative
>ba_cterial
>species".
>
>
>There should really be a way to edit posts ...
>
>
>
[vbcol=seagreen]
| |
|
| I wrote:
> Joel M. Eichen wrote:
>
>
>
> So you were just running off at the mouth?
Joel M. Eichen wrote:
> Nope. I am reminding people that gettin' some phantasmagorical cure
> for decay won't happen. Paying every day attention to brushing and
> removing bits of food will pay off by greatly reducing decay.
>
> Sensible versus fantasy!
>
> Nice try though!
What do you think I was trying to do?
>
>
> Joel
I have tried above to overcome your tricky editing job.
Now please explain how brushing and flossing 15 times per day equates to
"[P]aying every day attention to brushing and removing bits of food".
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| silverblue001@hotmail.com 2005-02-03, 10:48 am |
|
Joel M. Eichen wrote:
> ***************
>
> Where did you find the
> article on the internet,
> by the way?
>
>
> Joel
JADA (my school has a subscription ... if you're wondering how I got
access to it).
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| silverblue001@hotmail.com 2005-02-03, 10:48 am |
|
Matt wrote:
> I wrote:
<matt@themattfella.zzzz.com>[vbcol=seagreen]
tooth=AD=AD decay.[vbcol=seagreen]
between and[vbcol=seagreen]
remark, but I wasn't able to discern it.[vbcol=seagreen]
off.[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> Joel M. Eichen wrote:
>
> What do you think I was trying to do?
>
>
> I have tried above to overcome your tricky editing job.
>
> Now please explain how brushing and flossing 15 times per day equates
to
> "[P]aying every day attention to brushing and removing bits of food".
He was just being facetious. lol.
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| silverblue001@hotmail.com 2005-02-03, 10:48 am |
| He was just being facetious ...why's this such a big deal?
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| Joel M. Eichen 2005-02-03, 10:48 am |
| On Wed, 02 Feb 2005 13:24:18 GMT, Matt <matt@themattfella.zzzz.com>
wrote:
>
>What do you think I was trying to do?
I have no idea. Whenever someone says "running off at the mouth," it
is usually trying to pull something!
Joel
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| Joel M. Eichen 2005-02-03, 10:48 am |
| On 2 Feb 2005 07:26:53 -0800, silverblue001@hotmail.com wrote:
>He was just being facetious. lol.
Not really. A high school friend constantly brushed his teeth. They
were always very great.
This was before fluoride too.
Joel
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| silverblue001@hotmail.com 2005-02-03, 10:48 am |
|
Joel M. Eichen wrote:
> On 2 Feb 2005 07:26:53 -0800, silverblue001@hotmail.com wrote:
>
food".[vbcol=seagreen]
>
>
> Not really. A high school friend constantly brushed his teeth. They
> were always very great.
>
>
> This was before fluoride too.
>
> Joel
I hate to overanalyze, but I can't resist ...
"Constantly" brushing your teeth doesn't sound too healthy
(psychologically). If a friend of mine told me that he brushes his
teeth "constantly", I'd wonder if he had OCD. Of course, this depends
on what "constantly" means (and a whole bunch of other factors).
Anyway, three times a day works quite well for me. =)
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| silverblue001@hotmail.com 2005-02-07, 8:26 am |
|
Matt wrote:
> I wrote:
<matt@themattfella.zzzz.com>[vbcol=seagreen]
tooth=AD=AD decay.[vbcol=seagreen]
between and[vbcol=seagreen]
remark, but I wasn't able to discern it.[vbcol=seagreen]
off.[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> Joel M. Eichen wrote:
>
> What do you think I was trying to do?
>
>
> I have tried above to overcome your tricky editing job.
>
> Now please explain how brushing and flossing 15 times per day equates
to
> "[P]aying every day attention to brushing and removing bits of food".
He was just being facetious. lol.
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| silverblue001@hotmail.com 2005-02-12, 1:30 pm |
|
Joel M. Eichen wrote:
> On 2 Feb 2005 07:26:53 -0800, silverblue001@hotmail.com wrote:
>
food".[vbcol=seagreen]
>
>
> Not really. A high school friend constantly brushed his teeth. They
> were always very great.
>
>
> This was before fluoride too.
>
> Joel
I hate to overanalyze, but I can't resist ...
"Constantly" brushing your teeth doesn't sound too healthy
(psychologically). If a friend of mine told me that he brushes his
teeth "constantly", I'd wonder if he had OCD. Of course, this depends
on what "constantly" means (and a whole bunch of other factors).
Anyway, three times a day works quite well for me. =)
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