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| somebody 2005-10-18, 11:03 am |
| Philrob (at Dcom) asks:
As we age, front teeth become chipped and will aggravate inside of
lips. Dentist has done some grinding to even out areas, but problem
continues. Have been told that I grind my teeth while sleeping. First
time I have been told that, and problem has only recently started.
Question is - what can be done to correct the condition longer term. A
large chip in one front tooth was fixed using an adhesive and filling
material, several years ago, and it has worked well. Will appreciate
comments.
**************
I am trying to send him over here.
-Sue
or if anyone is interested they can comment here too:
http://www.dentalcom.net/forum/show...ted=1#post16486
THANKS.
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|
| I am Philrob, and will appreciate any advice pertaining to problem of
chipped teeth. Might add that my front teeth have not been ground down
abnormally; therefore I am not looking at capping as a remedy. Isn't
there an easier and less costly remedy? Thanks very much, Phil.
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| Amatus Cremona 2005-10-18, 11:03 am |
| >
>I am Philrob, and will appreciate any advice pertaining to problem of
> chipped teeth. Might add that my front teeth have not been ground down
> abnormally; therefore I am not looking at capping as a remedy. Isn't
> there an easier and less costly remedy? Thanks very much, Phil.
>
Tell us about the grinding, any pain, the amount of tooth loss, etc.
--
/
Amatus
/
"Phil" <philiprob@prodigy.net> wrote in message
news:1129648483.455046.83870@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>I am Philrob, and will appreciate any advice pertaining to problem of
> chipped teeth. Might add that my front teeth have not been ground down
> abnormally; therefore I am not looking at capping as a remedy. Isn't
> there an easier and less costly remedy? Thanks very much, Phil.
>
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| Tim Dixon 2005-10-18, 11:03 am |
|
"Phil" <philiprob@prodigy.net> wrote in message
news:1129648483.455046.83870@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>I am Philrob, and will appreciate any advice pertaining to problem of
> chipped teeth. Might add that my front teeth have not been ground down
> abnormally; therefore I am not looking at capping as a remedy. Isn't
> there an easier and less costly remedy? Thanks very much, Phil.
I would highly recommend that you visit www.headacheprevention.com (don't
let the headache part discourage you) where you will find a searchable
database by zipcode where you can find a dentist who provides the NTI-TSS
device which is what you most likely need. The site will give you all kinds
of background on what the device is. Good luck.
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| somebody 2005-10-20, 6:16 pm |
| Tim... I am pretty pleased that I said something that may have been on
the right track yesterday! I am happy to hear this confirmed and
clarified by a dentist. Thanks.
-Sue
*****************************************************************************
Philrob,
There are night guards or splints that you can wear to keep your teeth
form touching while you sleep. One is the called the NTI.
You may to look it up on the web.
Good luck,
Sue (nondentist)
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|
| Appreciate replys. Answers to some questions - no pain from grinding,
except chipped teeth do make inside of lips slightly sore; very little
tooth loss, and that is why I don't want to go to capping. Looking at
NTI device now. Thanks again, Phil.
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| Amatus Cremona 2005-10-20, 6:16 pm |
| >
> no pain from grinding,
> except chipped teeth do make inside of lips slightly sore; very little
> tooth loss, and that is why I don't want to go to capping. Looking at
> NTI device now
>
NTI device is a great way to prevent further destruction. Think about
discussing laminates with your dentist once the grinding has been brought
under control.
--
/
Amatus
/
"Phil" <philiprob@prodigy.net> wrote in message
news:1129656655.876908.56490@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
> Appreciate replys. Answers to some questions - no pain from grinding,
> except chipped teeth do make inside of lips slightly sore; very little
> tooth loss, and that is why I don't want to go to capping. Looking at
> NTI device now. Thanks again, Phil.
>
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|
|
Phil wrote:
> Appreciate replys. Answers to some questions - no pain from grinding,
> except chipped teeth do make inside of lips slightly sore; very little
> tooth loss, and that is why I don't want to go to capping. Looking at
> NTI device now. Thanks again, Phil.
______________________
I recommend that you also check with your own dentist, or any dentist
highly recommended by friends you trust. Not all of the dentists who
use the NTI are on the website, so it's not a requirement that you use
the website to find a dentist who can treat you effectively with the
NTI.
- dentaldoc
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| Dartos 2005-10-20, 6:16 pm |
|
And some that make them don't have any idea what they are doing.
They put a little SNAP in the stock matrix and wave good-bye.
It isn't brain surgery, but you need to learn the right way to make
them.
Dartos
> I recommend that you also check with your own dentist, or any dentist
> highly recommended by friends you trust. Not all of the dentists who
> use the NTI are on the website, so it's not a requirement that you use
> the website to find a dentist who can treat you effectively with the
> NTI.
>
> - dentaldoc
>
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| somebody 2005-10-20, 6:16 pm |
| Hi Docs-
I do not want to speak for Phil, but it seems like he is concerned
about "fixing" the tooth that is slightly ground down. Can anyone
speak to the cosmetic procedures available? I have heard that it is
very difficult to do a procedure on a single tooth (for esthetic
reasons.. i.e. difficult to "match" prosthetic to the surrounding
teeth).
Sounds like he does not want ot "cap" this tooth either. Any
suggestions?
Thanks.
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| Tim Dixon 2005-10-20, 6:16 pm |
|
"Bill" <dentaldoc@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1129662990.768598.308530@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>
> Phil wrote:
> ______________________
>
>
> I recommend that you also check with your own dentist, or any dentist
> highly recommended by friends you trust. Not all of the dentists who
> use the NTI are on the website, so it's not a requirement that you use
> the website to find a dentist who can treat you effectively with the
> NTI.
>
> - dentaldoc
Yes you are correct about not all NTI providers being listed, but its as
good a place to start as any.
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|
| "Somebody" has it correct, I don't want to go the capping process
because my teeth are NOT significantly ground down. But, I do have
chipping in most all front teeth, bottom and top. This irritates my
lips, particularly on bottom. I have had the dentist smooth off several
teeth, but it still prevails. Can I do a laminate process, as someone
suggested, or is that not an alternative? I do not grind my teeth when
awake, and am not aware of it when sleeping. Thanks again, Phil.
| |
| CWatters 2005-10-20, 6:16 pm |
|
"somebody" <chrlie699@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1129673638.860532.300580@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Hi Docs-
>
> I do not want to speak for Phil, but it seems like he is concerned
> about "fixing" the tooth that is slightly ground down. Can anyone
> speak to the cosmetic procedures available? I have heard that it is
> very difficult to do a procedure on a single tooth (for esthetic
> reasons.. i.e. difficult to "match" prosthetic to the surrounding
> teeth).
Not allways true. I have off white teeth with a few bright white patches.
When I needed a crown my dentist sent me to the lab where they made it. I
went back just before the firing process and the technician used a ceramic
paint and a tiny brush to colour the crown to match my existing teeth. He
made small changes then held it up to compare it with my existing teeth.
Took about 30 mins. He did a great job and overall it looks better than my
original tooth. He also corrected some missalignment of the original.
| |
| Joel M. Eichen 2005-10-20, 6:17 pm |
| On 18 Oct 2005 08:14:43 -0700, "Phil" <philiprob@prodigy.net> wrote:
>I am Philrob, and will appreciate any advice pertaining to problem of
>chipped teeth. Might add that my front teeth have not been ground down
>abnormally; therefore I am not looking at capping as a remedy. Isn't
>there an easier and less costly remedy? Thanks very much, Phil.
Looks like Sue did a convincing job .......
Where is the chipping?
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| Amatus Cremona 2005-10-20, 6:17 pm |
| >
>Can I do a laminate process, as someone
> suggested, or is that not an alternative?
>
Only a fool would offer such advice without seeing you in person. You need
an evaluation IRL to determine that. Generally, the first step is to stop
the process so that it cannot get worse. Without seeing you in person, I
don't know if that is suggested or not.
--
/
Amatus
/
"Phil" <philiprob@prodigy.net> wrote in message
news:1129677794.209891.28380@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> "Somebody" has it correct, I don't want to go the capping process
> because my teeth are NOT significantly ground down. But, I do have
> chipping in most all front teeth, bottom and top. This irritates my
> lips, particularly on bottom. I have had the dentist smooth off several
> teeth, but it still prevails. Can I do a laminate process, as someone
> suggested, or is that not an alternative? I do not grind my teeth when
> awake, and am not aware of it when sleeping. Thanks again, Phil.
>
| |
| somebody 2005-10-20, 6:17 pm |
| Only a fool would offer such advice without seeing you in person. You
need
an evaluation IRL to determine that. Generally, the first step is to
stop
the process so that it cannot get worse. Without seeing you in person,
I
don't know if that is suggested or not.
--
/
Amatus
Comment. Phil,
I think Amatus is correct. Some of these sorts of questions cannot be
answered online. You need an in person examination, IMHO.
-Sue
(Note also that Amatus is calling the person that suggested a laminate
a fool, NOT you). Heck, I do not even know what a laminate is.
| |
| Mark & Steven Bornfeld 2005-10-20, 6:17 pm |
| somebody wrote:
>
> Comment. Phil,
> I think Amatus is correct. Some of these sorts of questions cannot be
> answered online. You need an in person examination, IMHO.
>
> -Sue
> (Note also that Amatus is calling the person that suggested a laminate
> a fool, NOT you). Heck, I do not even know what a laminate is.
>
Laminate vs. solid top:
http://www.fretsmag.com/story.asp?s...&storycode=5034
Steve
--
Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
http://www.dentaltwins.com
Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001
| |
|
| Dartos wrote:
And some that make them don't have any idea what they are doing.
They put a little SNAP in the stock matrix and wave good-bye.
It isn't brain surgery, but you need to learn the right way to make
them.
Dartos
_______________________________________
Very, very true!
- dentaldoc
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|
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| Dartos 2005-10-20, 6:17 pm |
|
If teeth are wearing and chipping they *are* in contact with
each other too much and too hard. That could be because of
night time clenching. It could be from day time clenching.
It could be from biting finger nails (first place I look when
I see chipped front teeth is at the patient's hands).
Veneers can be a very good way to improve things, BUT if you
continue with whatever is chipping your natural teeth, the
veneers will be damaged also.
JME,
Dartos
Phil wrote:
> "Somebody" has it correct, I don't want to go the capping process
> because my teeth are NOT significantly ground down. But, I do have
> chipping in most all front teeth, bottom and top. This irritates my
> lips, particularly on bottom. I have had the dentist smooth off several
> teeth, but it still prevails. Can I do a laminate process, as someone
> suggested, or is that not an alternative? I do not grind my teeth when
> awake, and am not aware of it when sleeping. Thanks again, Phil.
>
| |
| Mark & Steven Bornfeld 2005-10-20, 6:17 pm |
| Sue wrote:
> Laminate vs. solid top:
>
> http://www.fretsmag.com/story.asp?s...&storycode=5034
>
>
> Steve
>
>
> Lol. Gee I thought I was going to get an education about dentistry.
> Then, come to find out we are talking about the top of a guitar.
>
> Is laminate in dentistry like laminate in woodwork and carpentry?
>
That's actually a good question. Plywood (layering of wood layers)
increases flexural strength. I'm a bit abashed to say that I'm not sure
what is layered in laminate veneers.
Anyone?
Steve
--
Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
http://www.dentaltwins.com
Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001
| |
|
| On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 20:04:50 GMT, Mark & Steven Bornfeld <bornfeldmung@dentaltwins.com> wrote:
>Sue wrote:
>
>
>
> That's actually a good question. Plywood (layering of wood layers)
>increases flexural strength. I'm a bit abashed to say that I'm not sure
>what is layered in laminate veneers.
> Anyone?
>
>Steve
Tooth Structure --> Bonding layer --> Adhesive Filler --> Silane Coupling Agent --> Porcelain
--
W_B
Take out the G'RBAGE
wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
| |
|
| Great number of replies, amd I appreciate it. Still confused, but have
an appointment with dentist tomorrow, and will discuss solution with
him. I want the least amount of enamel removed and I guess veneer
filling for cracks. I am not so much interested in appearance as I am
in durability. As we age, we look for comfort. Any more comments.
Thanks, Phil.
| |
|
| On 19 Oct 2005 13:40:06 -0700, "Phil" <philiprob@prodigy.net> wrote:
>Great number of replies, amd I appreciate it. Still confused, but have
>an appointment with dentist tomorrow, and will discuss solution with
>him. I want the least amount of enamel removed and I guess veneer
>filling for cracks. I am not so much interested in appearance as I am
>in durability. As we age, we look for comfort. Any more comments.
>Thanks, Phil.
Nothing will be durable without addressing the cause.
--
W_B
Take out the G'RBAGE
wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
| |
| Mark & Steven Bornfeld 2005-10-20, 6:17 pm |
| W_B wrote:
> On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 20:04:50 GMT, Mark & Steven Bornfeld <bornfeldmung@dentaltwins.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Tooth Structure --> Bonding layer --> Adhesive Filler --> Silane Coupling Agent --> Porcelain
> --
>
> W_B
> Take out the G'RBAGE
> wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
The porcelain itself has no structural lamination, as far as you know?
Steve
--
Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
http://www.dentaltwins.com
Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001
| |
|
| On Wed, 19 Oct 2005 20:49:29 GMT, Mark & Steven Bornfeld <bornfeldmung@dentaltwins.com> wrote:
>W_B wrote:
>
[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> The porcelain itself has no structural lamination, as far as you know?
>
>Steve
Structural ? Maybe too strong a word.
There are various layers in stacked porcelain but IIRC this only
for color, hue, and chroma.
Nothing structural AFAIK
The original CEREC blocks are homogenous.
Have heard that the new ones have color gradients.
--
W_B
Take out the G'RBAGE
wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
| |
| harry_lewis@yahoo.com 2005-10-24, 1:27 am |
| Phil wrote:
> I do not grind my teeth when
> awake, and am not aware of it when sleeping. Thanks again, Phil.
You can easily be grinding your teeth in your sleep and not be aware of
it. I'm not aware that I do either. Apparently I do, though, judging
by the damage that has been done to my teeth. I really wish the
dentist who first noticed the wear on my teeth had given me a stern
warning of what might happen if I ignored the problem. Since he just
mentioned it in passing, nonchalantly, I didn't realize the seriousness
of the problem. And since I wasn't aware of grinding or clenching my
teeth in my sleep, I didn't take it very seriously and just forgot
about it.
Don't make the same mistake that I did and ignore the problem. It will
end up costing you a lot more money in the long run and you will regret
it later.
And to the dentists out there:
When you see clear evidence of clenching/grinding, please take the time
to impress upon the patient the seriousness of the problem and don't be
in such a damn hurry to rush off to see the next patient (like some of
the dentists I've been to).
Harry
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| Dartos 2005-10-24, 1:27 am |
|
I'm not saying that you are one of my 'typical' patients. However, I
make mention of clenching and bruxism quite often and I do treat the
problem seriously. My patients don't (at least in the early stages).
Cartwheels and a brass band would not get these peoples attention on
the issue.
When their teeth are half gone and fractures get bad enough, I am often
expected to have a magic wand to save them.
I suppose there was a time when high blood pressure wasn't treated very
often either.
:-(
Dartos
> When you see clear evidence of clenching/grinding, please take the time
> to impress upon the patient the seriousness of the problem and don't be
> in such a damn hurry to rush off to see the next patient (like some of
> the dentists I've been to).
>
> Harry
>
| |
|
|
Mark & Steven Bornfeld wrote:
> W_B wrote:
>
>
> The porcelain itself has no structural lamination, as far as you know?
>
> Steve
>
> --
> Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
> http://www.dentaltwins.com
> Brooklyn, NY
> 718-258-5001
Have had mouth guard made and have been wearing it nights. Does help
prevent chipped teeth from scratching lip, but during day, some
abrasion does occur. If the answer is filling with veneer or
porcelain, what is an estimated cost per tooth to do it right? Thanks,
Phil.
| |
|
| Can someone help me with this question? Thanks.
| |
| Mark & Steven Bornfeld 2005-11-16, 5:52 pm |
| Phil wrote:
> Can someone help me with this question? Thanks.
>
Specifically on fees? For porcelain veneers, fees average maybe
$500-$1000 per tooth
Steve
--
Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
http://www.dentaltwins.com
Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001
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|
| On 16 Nov 2005 13:22:15 -0800, "Phil" <philiprob@prodigy.net> wrote:
>Can someone help me with this question? Thanks.
We recommend chipping golf balls not teeth.
--
W_B
Take out the G'RBAGE
wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
| |
|
| On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 21:52:28 GMT, Mark & Steven Bornfeld <bornfeldmung@dentaltwins.com> wrote:
>Phil wrote:
>
>
>Specifically on fees? For porcelain veneers, fees average maybe
>$500-$1000 per tooth
>
>Steve
I liked my answer better.
--
W_B
Take out the G'RBAGE
wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
| |
| Mark & Steven Bornfeld 2005-11-16, 5:52 pm |
| W_B wrote:
> On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 21:52:28 GMT, Mark & Steven Bornfeld <bornfeldmung@dentaltwins.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> I liked my answer better.
> --
>
> W_B
> Take out the G'RBAGE
> wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
It was pretty good.
Steve
--
Mark & Steven Bornfeld DDS
http://www.dentaltwins.com
Brooklyn, NY
718-258-5001
| |
|
| On Wed, 16 Nov 2005 22:29:46 GMT, Mark & Steven Bornfeld <bornfeldmung@dentaltwins.com> wrote:
>W_B wrote:
>
[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> It was pretty good.
>
>Steve
.... for and Eichenism, that is. <hehe>
--
W_B
Take out the G'RBAGE
wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
| |
|
| This forum could be even more informative if we had less jokers on it.
I purposely chip golf balls, but teeth are another matter. Appreciate
comments from those who have tried to be helpful. Thanks.
| |
|
| On 17 Nov 2005 10:55:02 -0800, "Phil" <philiprob@prodigy.net> wrote:
>This forum could be even more informative if we had less jokers on it.
>I purposely chip golf balls, but teeth are another matter. Appreciate
>comments from those who have tried to be helpful. Thanks.
OK, this forum can be as informative as the questions asked.
Don't ask stupid questions and you won't get silly answers.
What *exactly* do you want to know ?
How about a little background, eh ?
--
W_B
Take out the G'RBAGE
wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
| |
|
| On 16 Nov 2005 13:22:15 -0800, "Phil" <philiprob@prodigy.net> wrote:
>Can someone help me with this question? Thanks.
Chipping paint.
Can someone help me with this question ?
See how poorly this is asked ?
--
W_B
Take out the G'RBAGE
wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
| |
|
| Please look at the comments starting on Oct 18th. The question was and
still is, how do we fix chipped TEETH? Have followed advice and had
mouthguard made to prevent grinding. Now, how do we fix the few teeth
with jagged edges that cause the abrasion of lips? If I have not been
clear, I am sorry, because I realize you people are too busy for dumb
or vague questions. I appreciate your time and helpful suggestions.
| |
| Amatus Cremona 2005-11-17, 5:53 pm |
| >
>I am sorry, because I realize you people are too busy for dumb
> or vague questions. I appreciate your time and helpful suggestions.
>
The answer will remain vague. It is like asking if you think the blue on my
car is too light. You have not seen it.
Chipped teeth can get:
1) smoothed and polished
2) ignored
3) bonded
4) veneered
5) porcelain crown
6) porcelain 3/4 crown
7) gold crown
8) gold foil
9) indirect bonding
10) extraction
11) Stainless steel crown
12) platinum crown
13) porcelain fused to metal crown
14) acrylic crown
15) and the list goes on
--
/
Amatus
/
"Phil" <philiprob@prodigy.net> wrote in message
news:1132258729.513573.43240@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Please look at the comments starting on Oct 18th. The question was and
> still is, how do we fix chipped TEETH? Have followed advice and had
> mouthguard made to prevent grinding. Now, how do we fix the few teeth
> with jagged edges that cause the abrasion of lips? If I have not been
> clear, I am sorry, because I realize you people are too busy for dumb
> or vague questions. I appreciate your time and helpful suggestions.
>
| |
|
| On 17 Nov 2005 12:18:49 -0800, "Phil" <philiprob@prodigy.net> wrote:
>Please look at the comments starting on Oct 18th. The question was and
>still is, how do we fix chipped TEETH? Have followed advice and had
>mouthguard made to prevent grinding. Now, how do we fix the few teeth
>with jagged edges that cause the abrasion of lips? If I have not been
>clear, I am sorry, because I realize you people are too busy for dumb
>or vague questions. I appreciate your time and helpful suggestions.
Then post some pictures and x-rays !
For godsakes man, do you think this tie matches my shirt ?
You've got to give us *something* to go on !
Direct bonding, veneers, full crowns ?
Who knows ?
It's all just guessing without some pictures.
--
W_B
Take out the G'RBAGE
wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
| |
| Amatus Cremona 2005-11-17, 5:53 pm |
| >
> For godsakes man, do you think this tie matches my shirt ?
>
Um, I happen to know that W_B wears scrubs to work, so I think his
credibility is on the line here. Oh, wait, I drove a green SUV today, so my
earlier remark is on the line as well.
--
/
Amatus
/
"W_B" <no_one@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:qoqpn1pteirrdcn634vkg6lg9q6teeajam@4ax.com...
> On 17 Nov 2005 12:18:49 -0800, "Phil" <philiprob@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> Then post some pictures and x-rays !
>
> For godsakes man, do you think this tie matches my shirt ?
>
> You've got to give us *something* to go on !
>
> Direct bonding, veneers, full crowns ?
> Who knows ?
> It's all just guessing without some pictures.
> --
>
> W_B
> Take out the G'RBAGE
> wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
| |
| Dartos 2005-11-17, 5:53 pm |
|
If we received any monetary gain from our activity here or if
this were an organized volunteer service, it would probably be
more serious. Even so, there are usually several good posts
with valuable information besides the occasional quip.
If smd were 'no fun' for the professionals, then there might not
be any here.
To quote the Blues Brothers, "Wadda ya want for nuttin?"
Hooom rubba hubba bubba nubba,
JMO,
Dartos
Phil wrote:
> This forum could be even more informative if we had less jokers on it.
> I purposely chip golf balls, but teeth are another matter. Appreciate
> comments from those who have tried to be helpful. Thanks.
>
| |
|
|
Phil wrote:
> Please look at the comments starting on Oct 18th. The question was and
> still is, how do we fix chipped TEETH? Have followed advice and had
> mouthguard made to prevent grinding. Now, how do we fix the few teeth
> with jagged edges that cause the abrasion of lips? If I have not been
> clear, I am sorry, because I realize you people are too busy for dumb
> or vague questions. I appreciate your time and helpful suggestions.
Phil,
You may get less flack here:
http://www.dentistry.com
or here
http://www.allexperts.com (dentistry)
Gook luck,
Sue
| |
|
| Thanks Sue, appreciate your help.
| |
|
| On 18 Nov 2005 06:15:48 -0800, "Phil" <philiprob@prodigy.net> wrote:
>Thanks Sue, appreciate your help.
It might also help you to realise that most people download the
messages, read and delete, so when you post another message you need
to quote some of the post to which you are responding so people know
what you are talking about.
Ann
| |
| Joel M. Eichen 2005-11-20, 12:54 am |
| On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 11:33:16 +0000, Ann <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>On 18 Nov 2005 06:15:48 -0800, "Phil" <philiprob@prodigy.net> wrote:
>
>
>It might also help you to realise that most people download the
>messages, read and delete, so when you post another message you need
>to quote some of the post to which you are responding so people know
>what you are talking about.
>
>Ann
REPLY
Hello Anne,
What is the subject of this post and to which question are you
replying?
Joel
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| On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 23:17:59 -0500, Joel M. Eichen
<joeleichen@yahoo.com> wrote:
>On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 11:33:16 +0000, Ann <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>
>REPLY
>
>Hello Anne,
The name is Ann.
Ann
>What is the subject of this post and to which question are you
>replying?
>
>Joel
>
>
>
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| Annie,
I am replying to a message that I have already deleted.
Anyway, Phil was thanking me for some vague advice I gave him about the
paint job on his car.
I hope this clears things up for you,
Sue
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Sue wrote:
> Annie,
>
> I am replying to a message that I have already deleted.
>
> Anyway, Phil was thanking me for some vague advice I gave him about the
> paint job on his car.
>
> I hope this clears things up for you,
>
> Sue
Ann,
This post was a joke and not intended to be hurtful. Following Joel
brings out the worst in me (sarcasm-wise).
On the serious side, I hope you are having a good weekend.
Best,
Sue
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| On 20 Nov 2005 13:49:37 -0800, "Sue" <chrlie699@yahoo.com> wrote:
>Annie,
>
>I am replying to a message that I have already deleted.
>
>Anyway, Phil was thanking me for some vague advice I gave him about the
>paint job on his car.
>
>I hope this clears things up for you,
XXXX off.
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| Stovepipe 2005-11-21, 12:53 am |
| Amatus Cremona <Nicola@sottovocce.com> wrote:
> 12) platinum crown
> 13) porcelain fused to metal crown
> 14) acrylic crown
> 15) and the list goes on
...... and the beat goes on..... as well...
BTW, I don't think I've ever even _heard_ of a Platinum crown. I'll have
to look that up....
SP
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| Stovepipe 2005-11-21, 12:53 am |
| W_B <no_one@nowhere.net> wrote:
> I realize you people are too busy for dumb
>
>
> Then post some pictures and x-rays !
>
> For godsakes man, do you think this tie matches my shirt ?
That's a trick question.
......However, I happen to know that you were wearing a _dress_ when you
posed that question....
>
> You've got to give us *something* to go on !
>
> Direct bonding, veneers, full crowns ?
> Who knows ?
> It's all just guessing without some pictures.
All kidding aside, W_B is right: this is not like discussing motors for
regular automobiles or something. Each case is different.
SP
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| Joel M. Eichen 2005-11-21, 12:53 am |
| On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 22:20:53 -0500, stove99TRA@ASHyahoo.ca (Stovepipe)
wrote:
>Amatus Cremona <Nicola@sottovocce.com> wrote:
>
>
>..... and the beat goes on..... as well...
>
>BTW, I don't think I've ever even _heard_ of a Platinum crown. I'll have
>to look that up....
That's plutonium crown .......
>SP
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| Joel M. Eichen 2005-11-21, 12:53 am |
| On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 10:19:15 +0000, Ann <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>On Sat, 19 Nov 2005 23:17:59 -0500, Joel M. Eichen
><joeleichen@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>The name is Ann.
>
>Ann
OK Ann .......
Joele
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>
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| On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 23:43:52 +0000, Ann <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>On 20 Nov 2005 13:49:37 -0800, "Sue" <chrlie699@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>XXXX off.
Short, sweet, and to the point.
--
W_B
Take out the G'RBAGE
wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
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| On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 22:20:54 -0500, stove99TRA@ASHyahoo.ca (Stovepipe) wrote:
>W_B <no_one@nowhere.net> wrote:
>
>
>That's a trick question.
>
>
>.....However, I happen to know that you were wearing a _dress_ when you
>posed that question....
Damn ! Forgot to turn off that dadbuned web-cam, Again ! *^)
[vbcol=seagreen]
>
>All kidding aside, W_B is right: this is not like discussing motors for
>regular automobiles or something. Each case is different.
>SP
--
W_B
Take out the G'RBAGE
wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
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| Amatus Cremona 2005-11-21, 12:51 pm |
| >
> All kidding aside, W_B is right: this is not like discussing motors for
> regular automobiles or something. Each case is different.
>
Speaking of which, I have a new brake line in the blue car as of Saturday.
It should be hitting the road again this weekend coming. Just in time, as
the SUV is beginning to develop caries in the exhaust system.
--
/
Amatus
/
"Stovepipe" <stove99TRA@ASHyahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:1h6ciw3.t6d1611gg9veoN%stove99TRA@ASHyahoo.ca...
> W_B <no_one@nowhere.net> wrote:
>
>
> That's a trick question.
>
>
> .....However, I happen to know that you were wearing a _dress_ when you
> posed that question....
>
> All kidding aside, W_B is right: this is not like discussing motors for
> regular automobiles or something. Each case is different.
> SP
>
> --
> Take out the TRAASH to reply
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| On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 18:49:26 GMT, "Amatus Cremona" <Nicola@sottovocce.com> wrote:
>
>Speaking of which, I have a new brake line in the blue car as of Saturday.
>It should be hitting the road again this weekend coming. Just in time, as
>the SUV is beginning to develop caries in the exhaust system.
Designed by jet engineers.
Yeah, sure.
--
W_B
Take out the G'RBAGE
wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
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| Amatus Cremona 2005-11-21, 5:52 pm |
| >
> Designed by jet engineers.
>
Propeller engineers in my case. Think back to 1948.
--
/
Amatus
/
"W_B" <no_one@nowhere.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 18:49:26 GMT, "Amatus Cremona" <Nicola@sottovocce.com>
> wrote:
>
>
> Designed by jet engineers.
>
> Yeah, sure.
> --
>
> W_B
> Take out the G'RBAGE
> wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
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|
Have you seen the new commercial yet ?
On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 20:07:02 GMT, "Amatus Cremona" <Nicola@sottovocce.com> wrote:
>
>Propeller engineers in my case. Think back to 1948.
>
>--
>/
>
>Amatus
>
>/
>"W_B" <no_one@nowhere.net> wrote in message
>news:i064o1tgh5v1cvkhl02mqkq1afm0a7l886@4ax.com...
[vbcol=seagreen]
>
--
W_B
Take out the G'RBAGE
wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
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| On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 20:07:02 GMT, "Amatus Cremona" <Nicola@sottovocce.com> wrote:
>
>Propeller engineers in my case. Think back to 1948.
>
>--
>/
>
>Amatus
Wibur and Orville were the best !
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W_B
Take out the G'RBAGE
wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
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| Amatus Cremona 2005-11-21, 5:52 pm |
| >
> Have you seen the new commercial yet ?
>
Yep ! I have to laugh when I see that commercial and look in the garage at
the model 93 and model 96 setting out there. Although mine do still have
the silhouette of the propeller plane on the front.
--
/
Amatus
/
"W_B" <no_one@nowhere.net> wrote in message
news:4oa4o1hv0er3g5ndmda80q3um4grkrgr1k@4ax.com...
>
> Have you seen the new commercial yet ?
>
> On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 20:07:02 GMT, "Amatus Cremona" <Nicola@sottovocce.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> --
>
> W_B
> Take out the G'RBAGE
> wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
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| On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 21:44:40 GMT, "Amatus Cremona" <Nicola@sottovocce.com> wrote:
>
>Yep ! I have to laugh when I see that commercial and look in the garage at
>the model 93 and model 96 setting out there. Although mine do still have
>the silhouette of the propeller plane on the front.
Can you achieve take-off speed ? ;-)
--
W_B
Take out the G'RBAGE
wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
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| Amatus Cremona 2005-11-21, 5:53 pm |
| >
> Can you achieve take-off speed ? ;-)
>
Depends on what we are taking off. ::-)
--
/
Amatus
/
"W_B" <no_one@nowhere.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 21 Nov 2005 21:44:40 GMT, "Amatus Cremona" <Nicola@sottovocce.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Can you achieve take-off speed ? ;-)
> --
>
> W_B
> Take out the G'RBAGE
> wubbabubbazG@RBAGEyahoo.com
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Ann wrote:
> On 20 Nov 2005 13:49:37 -0800, "Sue" <chrlie699@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> XXXX off.
Ann,
Wow. Sorry. I will refrain from using humor in the future. I guess
it is not wise to joke with people before a relationship has been
established.
Sue
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Joel M. Eichen wrote:[vbcol=seagreen]
> On Sun, 20 Nov 2005 10:19:15 +0000, Ann <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>
> OK Ann .......
>
> Joele
>
>
>
Joel,
Can you please tell me. Do you and Ann generally get along ok or not?
Do most people here understand your humor?
I thought you and Ann were friends and therefore she would understand
that I was joking with her as friend. I am at a loss.
Thanks for any insight,
Sue
PS Are there any others that do not think you are funny?
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| Philip Atooth 2005-11-22, 10:53 am |
| At least one
--
"""""
Philip Atooth {Tooth mechanic extraordinaire}
""""
"Sue" <chrlie699@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> Joel M. Eichen wrote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
> PS Are there any others that do not think you are funny?
>
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Philip Atooth wrote:
> At least one
>
> --
> """""
> Philip Atooth {Tooth mechanic extraordinaire}
> """"
>
>
> "Sue" <chrlie699@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1132624269.606995.183320@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
Philip,
I think it would be funny if you signed your name Phil Atooth.
Sue[vbcol=seagreen]
>
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| Philip Atooth 2005-11-22, 12:51 pm |
| Do I think it funny that your name is the same as legal action taken against
Charlie?
--
"""""
Philip Atooth {Tooth mechanic extraordinaire}
""""
"Sue" <chrlie699@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1132674344.029715.42580@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>
> Philip Atooth wrote:
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>
> Philip,
>
> I think it would be funny if you signed your name Phil Atooth.
>
> Sue
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Philip Atooth wrote:[vbcol=seagreen]
> Do I think it funny that your name is the same as legal action taken against
> Charlie?
>
> --
> """""
> Philip Atooth {Tooth mechanic extraordinaire}
> """"
>
>
> "Sue" <chrlie699@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1132674344.029715.42580@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>
I don't know. Who is charlie?
I thought Fill Atooth would be funny.
Sue
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| Philip Atooth 2005-11-22, 5:52 pm |
| I guess it must be the 700th guy.
--
"""""
Philip Atooth {Tooth mechanic extraordinaire}
""""
"Sue" <chrlie700@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1132696298.000463.135020@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> Philip Atooth wrote:
>
> I don't know. Who is charlie?
>
> I thought Fill Atooth would be funny.
>
> Sue
>
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| On 22 Nov 2005 13:51:38 -0800, "Sue" <chrlie700@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>Philip Atooth wrote:
>
>I don't know. Who is charlie?
>
>I thought Fill Atooth would be funny.
Subtlety new to you then?
Ann
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| Philip Atooth 2005-11-23, 12:53 am |
| Hello Ms. Ann,
Are you a dental professional or just an lay-person with an interest in
teeth? I am a little mis-led here. Please help me.
Good wishes to you and your family
--
"""""
Philip Atooth {Tooth mechanic extraordinaire}
""""
"Ann" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:ihb7o152rb4779g6b2s7pf06k9itdpb77t@4ax.com...
> On 22 Nov 2005 13:51:38 -0800, "Sue" <chrlie700@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
> Subtlety new to you then?
>
> Ann
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| On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 00:18:38 GMT, "Philip Atooth"
<Phill@tothfiller.net> wrote:
>Hello Ms. Ann,
>
>Are you a dental professional or just an lay-person with an interest in
>teeth? I am a little mis-led here. Please help me.
Who misled you? That's the first time I've ever been asked on usenet
what I do for a living.. gosh.
Ann
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| Amatus Cremona 2005-11-25, 10:53 am |
| >
> Who misled you? That's the first time I've ever been asked on Usenet
> what I do for a living.. gosh.
>
Gosh, you have no intention on answering then ?
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Amatus
/
"Ann" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:k5m9o1dup5a5tajjj801m7nusibsqif2pa@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 00:18:38 GMT, "Philip Atooth"
> <Phill@tothfiller.net> wrote:
>
>
> Who misled you? That's the first time I've ever been asked on usenet
> what I do for a living.. gosh.
>
> Ann
>
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| On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 14:41:28 GMT, "Amatus Cremona"
<Nicola@sottovocce.com> wrote:
>
>Gosh, you have no intention on answering then ?
No
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| Amatus Cremona 2005-11-28, 10:53 am |
| >
> No
>
Gosh !
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/
Amatus
/
"Ann" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 14:41:28 GMT, "Amatus Cremona"
> <Nicola@sottovocce.com> wrote:
>
>
> No
>
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