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Drug Free America Foundation Endorses House 'Medical' Marijuana Bill

Phil Stovell

2004-12-15, 6:00 pm

"This legislation will educate the public about the harms of medical excuse
marijuana as well as protect the terminally ill from those whose sole intention
is to legalize all Schedule I drugs".

I can't comment as the expletives would need lots of deletion.

http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=40475

Drug Free America Foundation Endorses House 'Medical' Marijuana Bill

12/8/2004 3:22:00 PM

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To: National Desk

Contact: Lana Beck of the Drug Free America Foundation, 727-828-0211; Web:
http://www.dfaf.org

ST. PETERSBURG, Fla., Dec. 8 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Drug Free America Foundation
supports Representative Mark Souder and the Safe and Effective Drug Act (H.R.
5429). This legislation will educate the public about the harms of medical
excuse marijuana as well as protect the terminally ill from those whose sole
intention is to legalize all Schedule I drugs.

According to Ms. Fay, "What this Bill will do is separate the deceit of the
drug legalization advocates' hidden agenda from the needs of the terminally
ill. We have never taken issue with the truly sick who need legitimate
medicine; we take issue with the wealthy businessmen who want to profit from
their suffering. We also take issue with illegal drug users who want to toke up
under the guise of using 'medicine.'"

This bill will direct the National Institutes of Health to examine the
available scientific data regarding the safety and effectiveness of smoking
marijuana. It will also require the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to post
this information and distribute it to public health entities.

"Accountability is key," says Fay. "If the legalizers are truly compassionate
towards the ill they should be thrilled about this act because the
effectiveness of marijuana for medical purposes will again be researched.
Somehow I don't think they will. For it's obvious that the true intent of the
pushers behind the drug legalization movement is far from compassionate and not
even close to being scientific."

The Food and Drug Administration and medical community should decide on
questions of medicine-not special interest groups, not individuals and never
public opinion. Modern medicine relies on proven scientific research, not
polling results.

Drug Free America Foundation, Inc. is a drug prevention organization committed
to developing, promoting and sustaining global drug strategies, policies and
laws that will reduce illegal drug use, drug addiction and drug-related injury
and death. For more information, contact Lana Beck, DFAF Director of
Communications, at (727) 828-0211, after hours, (727) 403-7571, or visit
http://www.dfaf.org .

--
Phil Stovell
South Hampshire, UK

Lensman

2004-12-15, 6:00 pm

Phil Stovell <phil@stovell.org.uk> wrote :

>"This legislation will educate the public about the harms of medical excuse
>marijuana as well as protect the terminally ill from those whose sole intention
>is to legalize all Schedule I drugs".
>
>I can't comment as the expletives would need lots of deletion.
>
>

</lurk>

[snip] can't bear to read it again

Dunno about anyone else, but that REALLY BOILED MY PISS!

sorry, temples throbbing, teeth grinding, ta.

<lurk>

</lurk>
ps, hihi Dave J '-)
<lurk>

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dali

2004-12-15, 6:00 pm

On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 14:25:48 +0000 (UTC), Lensman <putin@kremvax.ru>
wrote:

>Phil Stovell <phil@stovell.org.uk> wrote :
>
>
></lurk>
>
> [snip] can't bear to read it again
>
> Dunno about anyone else, but that REALLY BOILED MY PISS!
>
> sorry, temples throbbing, teeth grinding, ta.
>
ditto, until there moms or children or they themselves become
inflicted with a disease and the only relief from the torture(it is
torture) is cannabis their minds will not change. Thats said, doesn't
the latest research show that there are cannabis receptors in the
brain that do in fact control pain?

dali

2004-12-15, 6:00 pm

On Thu, 9 Dec 2004 14:25:48 +0000 (UTC), Lensman <putin@kremvax.ru>
wrote:

>Phil Stovell <phil@stovell.org.uk> wrote :
>
>
></lurk>
>
> [snip] can't bear to read it again
>
> Dunno about anyone else, but that REALLY BOILED MY PISS!
>
> sorry, temples throbbing, teeth grinding, ta.
>
><lurk>
>
we also have to keep in mind that no matter what they do the states
are the ones who arrest people. so they can XXXX off for all i care.
the laws today are a joke and they will continue to be so as long as
hypocrisy is alive and well.

Thoric

2004-12-15, 6:00 pm

How about everybody emailing Lana Beck and telling her how far off the
mark they really are?

Pete nospam Zakel

2004-12-15, 6:00 pm

In article <0olgr0dpk1pornam8ljqfk9hcenl7f8h6g@4ax.com> phil@stovell.org.uk writes:
>"This legislation will educate the public about the harms of medical excuse
>marijuana as well as protect the terminally ill from those whose sole intention
>is to legalize all Schedule I drugs".
>
>I can't comment as the expletives would need lots of deletion.

Well, one of my comments concerns:

>The Food and Drug Administration and medical community should decide on
>questions of medicine-not special interest groups, not individuals and never
>public opinion. Modern medicine relies on proven scientific research, not
>polling results.

Note that the CSA (Controlled Substances Act) PREVENTS the FDA and the medical
community from deciding on the questions of medicine.

So in this case, I agree with the "Drug Free America" Foundation, Inc. Let's
repeal the CSA and allow the FDA and medical doctors to make decisions about
whether marijuana, heroin, cocaine, etc., can be used as medicine.

-Pete Zakel
(phz@seeheader.nospam)

"The Bible is not my Book and Christianity is not my religion. I could
never give assent to the long complicated statements of Christian dogma."

-Abraham Lincoln

Guido Marx

2004-12-15, 6:00 pm

Pete nospam Zakel wrote:
> In article <0olgr0dpk1pornam8ljqfk9hcenl7f8h6g@4ax.com>
phil@stovell.org.uk writes:
excuse[vbcol=seagreen]
sole intention[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> Well, one of my comments concerns:
>
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and never[vbcol=seagreen]
research, not[vbcol=seagreen]
>
> Note that the CSA (Controlled Substances Act) PREVENTS the FDA and
the medical
> community from deciding on the questions of medicine.
>
> So in this case, I agree with the "Drug Free America" Foundation,
Inc. Let's
> repeal the CSA and allow the FDA and medical doctors to make
decisions about
> whether marijuana, heroin, cocaine, etc., can be used as medicine.

Somehow - I don't think that the "Drug Free America" Foundation, Inc.
was really arguing for a repeal of the CSA - call me crazy...

Guido

Colonel polyPs

2004-12-15, 6:00 pm

"Pete nospam Zakel" <pxhxz@cadence.com> wrote in message
news:41b8f289$1@news.cadence.com...

> "The Bible is not my Book and Christianity is not my religion. I
could
> never give assent to the long complicated statements of Christian
dogma."
>
> -Abraham Lincoln

Now that is an interesting quote.
I imagined abe to an ax murdering psychopath.

I could be wrong if he was honest about not being christian.

I'm still trying to get this goddamned microchip out of my back that
Richard Nixon, George Bush and George bush stuck there when they
kidnapped drugged and inquisitioned me in 1982.
My family started the US and did bongs with George Washington at Valley
Forge.
I am not free.

This is a serious issue and should be dealt with in severity.

Exterminate the christian government.

Dave J

2004-12-15, 6:00 pm

In MsgID<0gogr09dd6j23qsuvjg7rq1p6skvggrgmi@4ax.com> within
uk.politics.drugs [1] , 'Lensman' wrote:

></lurk>
> ps, hihi Dave J '-)
><lurk>

Flamin typical!

Which group you hiding in?

[1] Note the useful feature in the intro[2].. <G>

[2] I had to do it as a footnote of course.

Dave J.

Lensman

2004-12-15, 6:00 pm

Having nothing better to do that lurk in uk.politics.drugs, Dave J
<requiem@freeuk.com> wrote : [1]

>In MsgID<0gogr09dd6j23qsuvjg7rq1p6skvggrgmi@4ax.com> within
>uk.politics.drugs [1] , 'Lensman' wrote:
>
>
>Flamin typical!
>
>Which group you hiding in?

At the momenet the list is vast, I am winding down my jbex [2]
activities as I prepare to swell the ranks of the unemployed
for a wee while from next week. Dodgy though, keep picking
up stalkers.

'-)

Oh hang on, ISWYM. uk.p.d.

>[1] Note the useful feature in the intro[2].. <G>
>
>[2] I had to do it as a footnote of course.
>
>
>Dave J.

LOL '-)

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[1] consider me reconfigured '-)
[2] yes, them to.

bobbie sellers

2004-12-15, 6:00 pm

roid wrote.

> Delta Nine wrote:
>
> it sounds so rediculous, that i am wondering if in fact they ARE
> actually referring to the big legal drug companys. no-one could
> possibly accuse the weed smoking community of being "wealthy business".
> You know what, i'm not sure these guys are all that demonic really in
> this. it truly sounds like they are keen on questioning the validitiy
> of relaxing the medical cannabis laws.

Actually in San Francisco there has already been a mini-scandal
about
excessive profit from one cannabis dispensary. I wouldn't describe
the
participants in the terms above, few people though get into a
dangerous
business without expecting adequate returns to offset their risks.
There
was also some internal disagreement on the distribution of the
profits
which of course led to the intrusion of law enforcement and the end
of that
particular scene.

>
> although yes, it does seem they are confident that the medical community
> will vote against medical use. for some reason. i hope they don't have
> some hidden card here, because from all i've seen the medical community
> is keen on allowing it's use in medicine. politically, something is not
> adding up here.

Some very uninformed and reactionary MDs out there and such seem
to
gravitate towards administrative positions in the medical societies.

>
> If it were anyone else calling for this, i'd be cheering. But
> considering the rather unlikely source warrenting this action, it pays
> to be wary.

Souder is expecting to get confirmation for his position and may
have
lined up his sort of independent investigators for the study. All
ignore
the government's own evidence on the people supplied with the
low-grade
cannabis for various illnesses since the 1980s(?). Further they
ignore
the long history of use before the Hemp Tax Act in 1937 as Tincture
of
Cannabis, USP per orem and continue to harp on smoked medictation.
Either
willful ignorance(which I see a lot of here), hypocrisy(Souder and
most
of the Republican Religious wrong-wing) or vested interest as the
Correctional(Prison) Officers (Guards) Union, the makers of drug
test
kits, some drug dealers and of course people who run drug rehab
facilities
all making mucho dinero from the rabid enforcement of the bad laws,
some
indeed becoming wealthy businessmen.

"[Cannabis smoking] does not lead directly to mental or
physical deterioration... Those who have consumed marijuana for
a period of years showed no mental or physical deterioration
which may be attributed to the drug." LaGuardia Commission
Report, 1944

[Cannabis] is smoked over a longer period in heavier
quantities with greater THC potency than in the United States
without deleterious social or psychological consequences. ---
Jamaican Studies, 1975

"Relatively few adverse clinical effects from the chronic
use of marijuana have been documented in humans. However, the
criminalization of marijuana use may itself be a health hazard,
since it may expose the users to violence and criminal
activity." The Kaiser Permanente study - "Marijuana Use and
Mortality" April 1997 American Journal of Public Health.
http://www.ukcia.org/lib/kaiser1.htm

later
bliss -- C O C O A Powered... (at california dot com)

--
bobbie sellers - a retired nurse in San Francisco

"It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
It is by the beans of cocoa that the thoughts acquire speed,
the thighs acquire girth, the girth become a warning.
It is by theobromine alone I set my mind in motion."
--from Someone else's Dune spoof ripped to my taste.

Lensman

2004-12-15, 6:00 pm

Thoric

2004-12-15, 6:00 pm

How about everybody emailing Lana Beck and telling her how far off the
mark they really are?

Pete nospam Zakel

2004-12-15, 6:00 pm

Guido Marx

2004-12-15, 6:00 pm

Colonel polyPs

2004-12-15, 6:00 pm

dali

2004-12-15, 6:00 pm

On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 20:43:32 +1000, roid <roid@zzz**NOSPAM**.com.ru>
wrote:

>Phil Stovell wrote:
>
>
>
>there is a lot of idiotic slander in it (eg: protecting the termanally
>ill from drug legalisation?! rofl, as if legalisation would in
>disadvantage them, it's only be GOOD news for them. wtf idiots).
>
>maybe i'm not reading this right, but if you cut through all the stupid
>unsubstantiated accusations and slander, leave all that aside and what
>you are left with is a call for DOCTORS to be making the desisions in
>these regards, instead of the politicians who are currently calling the
>shots.
>Their (the anti-drug lobbys) motives are XXXXed up, but what they are
>calling for here is GOOD. We all want doctors to be making the
>desisions rather than politicians don't we?
>
>this is GOOD news.
>(or did i miss something)

No your not missing a thing. the saddest part is that they are even
starting to call this lady with the brain tumor all types of names.
frankly I hope these people die. pathetic people. another argument is
that just because it makes you feel better it shouldn't be legal and
then start comparing it to crack cocaine. it's beyond belief.

Lensman

2004-12-15, 6:00 pm

Peter H Proctor

2004-12-15, 6:00 pm

On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 14:34:46 GMT, dali <weeble@wabble.com> wrote:

>No your not missing a thing. the saddest part is that they are even
>starting to call this lady with the brain tumor all types of names.
>frankly I hope these people die. pathetic people. another argument is
>that just because it makes you feel better it shouldn't be legal and
>then start comparing it to crack cocaine. it's beyond belief.

It never fails---Wait until they or a love one needs palliation for
cancer pain, nausea, etc. Then watch the song they sing..

Dr P

bobbie sellers

2004-12-15, 6:00 pm

dali

2004-12-15, 6:00 pm

davon96720

2004-12-18, 2:07 am

Ah, the self-righteous riding their white horse again.
davon96720

"Phil Stovell" <phil@stovell.org.uk> wrote in message
news:0olgr0dpk1pornam8ljqfk9hcenl7f8h6g@4ax.com...
> "This legislation will educate the public about the harms of medical
> excuse
> marijuana as well as protect the terminally ill from those whose sole
> intention
> is to legalize all Schedule I drugs".
>
> I can't comment as the expletives would need lots of deletion.
>
>
> http://releases.usnewswire.com/GetRelease.asp?id=40475
>
> Drug Free America Foundation Endorses House 'Medical' Marijuana Bill
>
> 12/8/2004 3:22:00 PM
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> To: National Desk
>
> Contact: Lana Beck of the Drug Free America Foundation, 727-828-0211; Web:
> http://www.dfaf.org
>
> ST. PETERSBURG, Fla., Dec. 8 /U.S. Newswire/ -- Drug Free America
> Foundation
> supports Representative Mark Souder and the Safe and Effective Drug Act
> (H.R.
> 5429). This legislation will educate the public about the harms of medical
> excuse marijuana as well as protect the terminally ill from those whose
> sole
> intention is to legalize all Schedule I drugs.
>
> According to Ms. Fay, "What this Bill will do is separate the deceit of
> the
> drug legalization advocates' hidden agenda from the needs of the
> terminally
> ill. We have never taken issue with the truly sick who need legitimate
> medicine; we take issue with the wealthy businessmen who want to profit
> from
> their suffering. We also take issue with illegal drug users who want to
> toke up
> under the guise of using 'medicine.'"
>
> This bill will direct the National Institutes of Health to examine the
> available scientific data regarding the safety and effectiveness of
> smoking
> marijuana. It will also require the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) to
> post
> this information and distribute it to public health entities.
>
> "Accountability is key," says Fay. "If the legalizers are truly
> compassionate
> towards the ill they should be thrilled about this act because the
> effectiveness of marijuana for medical purposes will again be researched.
> Somehow I don't think they will. For it's obvious that the true intent of
> the
> pushers behind the drug legalization movement is far from compassionate
> and not
> even close to being scientific."
>
> The Food and Drug Administration and medical community should decide on
> questions of medicine-not special interest groups, not individuals and
> never
> public opinion. Modern medicine relies on proven scientific research, not
> polling results.
>
> Drug Free America Foundation, Inc. is a drug prevention organization
> committed
> to developing, promoting and sustaining global drug strategies, policies
> and
> laws that will reduce illegal drug use, drug addiction and drug-related
> injury
> and death. For more information, contact Lana Beck, DFAF Director of
> Communications, at (727) 828-0211, after hours, (727) 403-7571, or visit
> http://www.dfaf.org .
>
> --
> Phil Stovell
> South Hampshire, UK

davon96720

2004-12-20, 7:10 pm