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I like being an alcoholic
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| I like being an alcoholic. Alcoholism is not a problem. It's only a
problem when you admit its a problem. Until then, it's a willful
indiscretion. I'm in denial and I like it like that. God's son Jesus
leads me when I am too drunk to lead myself and that's a good thing.
The image of the pious martyr is evoked in many religions, throughout
the ages. Some Christian zealots practically salivate over the
suffering of Christ (and sometimes even make pretty cool films about
it; yes, I liked "The Passion" and am not ashamed to admit it, no
matter how wacky Mel Gibson gets in his handsome old age), and don't
even get me started on female suffering personified in the Virgin (or
on the fact that she's a virgin).
Sorry everyone I was drunk when I wrote that (seriously). Although,
I'm not the hugest fan of Jesus sometimes. I mean, any God that
doesn't provide you ice in your sodas, or hang out in large
supermarkets at every corner, has got to be considered mentally
unstable.
Either way, I still support the virgin. Virgins are the best. Virgins
help me when I am too drunk to be mentally stable.
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| Been There Got A Mug 2006-08-19, 9:20 pm |
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tedw wrote:
> I like being an alcoholic. Alcoholism is not a problem. It's only a
> problem when you admit its a problem.
Which statistic are you going to become part of ?
(Source: National Institute on Alcoholism and Alcohol Abuse)
Alcoholism Statistics
Alcoholism statistics in the United States remain staggering.
* Professionals estimate that 40% of the population will have an
addiction
problem at some point in their life (alcohol, drugs, gambling,
etc).
* An alcoholic or addict will significantly impact an average of
4-5 other
lives (family, friends, associates, etc.) while under the
influence of the disease.
* The odds of an alcoholic or addict quitting drinking or using
alcohol "on
their own" without professional help or regular recovery
meetings is 1 in 50,000.
* Alcohol contributes to 100,000 deaths annually.
* 8.1 million people are alcoholic.
* Most alcoholics seeking treatment are in the 26-34 age group.
* 3.1 million Americans -- approximately 1.4% of the population 12
and
older -- received treatment for alcoholism and alcohol-related
problems in 1997.
* 3 million Americans over the age of 60 are alcoholics or have
serious
drinking problems.
* 10% of the U.S. population's drinkers drink 50% of all alcohol
consumed.
* 66% of the population consumes alcohol.
* Alcoholism statistics indicate 13.8 million Americans, more than
7% of
the population 18 years and older, have problems with
drinking.
* Alcohol is the third leading cause of preventable death in this
country 20%
of suicide victims are alcoholic.
There are approximately 14 million people in the country addicted to
alcohol and millions
more who display symptoms of abuse, including binge drinking. Sadly,
a reported 2.6 million binge drinkers in 2002 were between the ages of
12 and 17.
Due to the more than 2 million people per year who drive under the
influence,
the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration claims that
alcoholism
statistics indicate 17,000 alcohol-related traffic fatalities in each
of the
last three years.
Since perceptions and behaviors become distorted under the influence
of drugs and alcohol in any situation, annual alcoholism statistics
also show that, in addition to traffic accidents, alcohol
abuse causes:
* 1,400 deaths
* 500,000 injuries
* 600,000 assaults
* 70,000 sexual assaults
Underage Alcohol Abuse
These are the hardest alcoholism statistics to swallow:
* Alcohol is the fourth leading cause of death among people ages 10
to 24
* Underage drinking costs Americans nearly $53 billion.
* In the United States, the average age that kids begin to drink at
is 12-years-old.
* Alcoholism statistics show that people who start using alcohol
before
the age of 15 are four times more likely to develop an alcohol
addiction at some point in their lives, compared to those who
start
drinking at the legal age of 21.
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| Been There,
I don't have the time to go through and point out all the untruths and
nonsense and misleading information you have posted, so I'll stick with
just a few items. Comment interspersed below.
Been There Got A Mug wrote:
>
> (Source: National Institute on Alcoholism and Alcohol Abuse)
>
> * Professionals estimate that 40% of the population will have an
> addiction
> problem at some point in their life (alcohol, drugs, gambling,
> etc).
Wow, 40%? Does that mean that 40% of the population must run out and
turn their will and lives over to God as defined by the elder groupers
in their local AA meetings?
> * An alcoholic or addict will significantly impact an average of
> 4-5 other
> lives (family, friends, associates, etc.) while under the
> influence of the disease.
If various addicted people mentioned above, the presumed 40% of the
population, each affect 4-5 other people, does this mean they are
affecting 160 to 200 percent of the population? Does this 160 to 200
percent of the population need to join a Step group like Al-Anon or
Gam-Anon?
And I thought Bradshaw and the other Codependency gurus were defying
credibility in saying 100% of the population was co-dependent and needed
to work the Twelve Steps in Codependents Anonymous.
> * The odds of an alcoholic or addict quitting drinking or using
> alcohol "on
> their own" without professional help or regular recovery
> meetings is 1 in 50,000.
This is probably true if one uses the AA definition of "alcoholic." Of
course, any of the 70%+ of alcohol dependent people who quit on their
own, no less without 12-Step involvement, aren't "real" alcoholics,
either that or they are "dry drunks" a silly, disparaging term used by
AAs to describe people who quit drinking and aren't Steppers.
One in 50,000? Don't the Steppers and treatment industry people at
NIAAA even care if they make the most silly and outrageous statements?
The governments' own research shows 70% plus quit with no help
whatsoever. That doesn't include the large number of people who go for
useless help in the form of the 12 Step religion that quit or moderate
anyway.
> * 8.1 million people are alcoholic.
It is nice to see this number come down from the 20 million or 10% often
bandied about by Steppers and the treatment industry. Of course, this
number is still over 22 times the number of alcoholics in this country
in 1945, when AA member Marty Mann first got government money to educate
America about AA's recently discovered "disease of alcoholism."
Strange how teaching people they are "Powerless" and must depend
directly on God to keep them from drinking "one day at a time" has made
the problem so much worse than the old depending on what most believers
used to believe, that God gave us what we need to do not do wrong.
> * 3.1 million Americans -- approximately 1.4% of the population 12
> and
> older -- received treatment for alcoholism and alcohol-related
> problems in 1997.
Surely if all these millions of people are getting treatment, in just
three years it will be impossible to find an alcoholic in America. Sure
.. . .
> * Alcohol is the third leading cause of preventable death in this
> country 20%
> of suicide victims are alcoholic.
Well, perhaps so. Harvard psychiatrist, Al-Anon and AA board member
George Vaillant found a much higher death rate in those who followed his
advice and went to AA over those who didn't go to AA. Of course, that is
to be expected of cult indoctrination. AA isn't the only cult with a
high suicide rate.
> There are approximately 14 million people in the country addicted to
> alcohol and millions
> more who display symptoms of abuse, including binge drinking.
But above it said 8 million alcoholics. Which is true? Or do they just
pull whatever number they wish to out of the air?
> Since perceptions and behaviors become distorted under the influence
> of drugs and alcohol in any situation, annual alcoholism statistics
> also show that, in addition to traffic accidents, alcohol
> abuse causes:
>
> * 1,400 deaths
> * 500,000 injuries
> * 600,000 assaults
> * 70,000 sexual assaults
Obviously, Afghanistan under the Taliban couldn't have had nearly the
rate of deaths, injuries and assaults that we do. They were abstemious.
Perhaps the media has been lying to us about how they treated each
other, particularly women. They had no alcohol so how could they ever
have been anything but loving to each other?
Actually, scientific studies have shown that the way people respond to
alcohol is very much determined by cultural and personal beliefs about
alcohol. Here in America, it has become an excuse for the worst
imaginable misbehavior. "I have a disease."
Ken Ragge
http://www.morerevealed.com
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| Been There Got A Mug 2006-08-20, 8:20 am |
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Ken wrote:
> Been There,
>
> I don't have the time
Thank you for sharing Dr. Ken.
How are your anti-AA book sales going ?
PS. I added my success story to your More Revealed web page and
they keep getting removed. Are you having computer problems ?
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| lestat 2006-08-23, 2:20 am |
| You log onto a site with people trying to quit drinking just to tell us
you like being an alcoholic? I'm not even going near the religious
bullshit you're quoting of. You're just pathetic. Have a psychiatrist?
If not you XXXXing need one! You are in major XXXXing denial and I
suspect you also have severe mental issues you need to address. I think
you're hiding behind your wall of denial and use it as an excuse to
justify you're drinking. You really are quite pathetic!
tedw wrote:
> I like being an alcoholic. Alcoholism is not a problem. It's only a
> problem when you admit its a problem. Until then, it's a willful
> indiscretion. I'm in denial and I like it like that. God's son Jesus
> leads me when I am too drunk to lead myself and that's a good thing.
>
> The image of the pious martyr is evoked in many religions, throughout
> the ages. Some Christian zealots practically salivate over the
> suffering of Christ (and sometimes even make pretty cool films about
> it; yes, I liked "The Passion" and am not ashamed to admit it, no
> matter how wacky Mel Gibson gets in his handsome old age), and don't
> even get me started on female suffering personified in the Virgin (or
> on the fact that she's a virgin).
>
> Sorry everyone I was drunk when I wrote that (seriously). Although,
> I'm not the hugest fan of Jesus sometimes. I mean, any God that
> doesn't provide you ice in your sodas, or hang out in large
> supermarkets at every corner, has got to be considered mentally
> unstable.
>
> Either way, I still support the virgin. Virgins are the best. Virgins
> help me when I am too drunk to be mentally stable.
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| KimStar 2006-08-24, 4:21 pm |
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"lestat" wrote:
> You log onto a site with people trying to quit drinking just to tell us
> you like being an alcoholic? I'm not even going near the religious
> bullshit you're quoting of. You're just pathetic. Have a psychiatrist?
> If not you XXXXing need one! You are in major XXXXing denial and I
> suspect you also have severe mental issues you need to address. I think
> you're hiding behind your wall of denial and use it as an excuse to
> justify you're drinking. You really are quite pathetic!
My vote? Troll. Treat accordingly (which means ignore).
Just a friendly word to the wise...
KimStar
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| Christine 2006-09-17, 9:21 pm |
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[vbcol=seagreen]
> tedw wrote:
Hey, I don't know about Jesus taking care of you when you're drunk, but
I do know how it feels to love being an alcoholic. Ride that wave as
long as you can, man - enjoy it - because, crap, when that wave crashes
you are going to hit the beach HARD (at least I did).
So good luck with Jesus being your drinking partner and when (if)
you're ready to stop, try not to blame Jesus for letting you down.
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| jamielogger@yahoo.com 2006-10-17, 2:21 am |
| On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 03:37:23 -0500, "tedw" <tedw2@earthlínk.net>
wrote:
>I like being an alcoholic. Alcoholism is not a problem. It's only a
>problem when you admit its a problem. Until then, it's a willful
>indiscretion. I'm in denial and I like it like that. God's son Jesus
>leads me when I am too drunk to lead myself and that's a good thing.
>
>The image of the pious martyr is evoked in many religions, throughout
>the ages. Some Christian zealots practically salivate over the
>suffering of Christ (and sometimes even make pretty cool films about
>it; yes, I liked "The Passion" and am not ashamed to admit it, no
>matter how wacky Mel Gibson gets in his handsome old age), and don't
>even get me started on female suffering personified in the Virgin (or
>on the fact that she's a virgin).
>
>Sorry everyone I was drunk when I wrote that (seriously). Although,
>I'm not the hugest fan of Jesus sometimes. I mean, any God that
>doesn't provide you ice in your sodas, or hang out in large
>supermarkets at every corner, has got to be considered mentally
>unstable.
>
>Either way, I still support the virgin. Virgins are the best. Virgins
>help me when I am too drunk to be mentally stable.
OK, you are obviously a troll, but you also sound like a complete
idiot and everytime you take a breath you are wasting precious air.
It's good you drink because that way you will die soon and hopefully
never procreate. However, I think you could do the job faster. Buy a
cheap gun. You can probably find one for the cost of one days booze.
Load the gun, hold it to your head and pull the trigger. All your
problems will be solved and you will stop polluting the gene pool.
It's time you go offline now and go to any place that sells guns.
Don't hesitate. You got a job to do, and we will all be glad when you
finish. Just aim for your brain stem and be sure you use the most
powerful bullet you can find. Goodbye forever.
PLONK
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| newsgroup-control@usenet.com 2006-10-17, 8:20 am |
| On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 03:37:23 -0500, "tedw" <tedw2@earthlínk.net>
wrote:
>I like being an alcoholic. Alcoholism is not a problem. It's only a
>problem when you admit its a problem. Until then, it's a willful
>indiscretion. I'm in denial and I like it like that. God's son Jesus
>leads me when I am too drunk to lead myself and that's a good thing.
>
>The image of the pious martyr is evoked in many religions, throughout
>the ages. Some Christian zealots practically salivate over the
>suffering of Christ (and sometimes even make pretty cool films about
>it; yes, I liked "The Passion" and am not ashamed to admit it, no
>matter how wacky Mel Gibson gets in his handsome old age), and don't
>even get me started on female suffering personified in the Virgin (or
>on the fact that she's a virgin).
>
>Sorry everyone I was drunk when I wrote that (seriously). Although,
>I'm not the hugest fan of Jesus sometimes. I mean, any God that
>doesn't provide you ice in your sodas, or hang out in large
>supermarkets at every corner, has got to be considered mentally
>unstable.
>
>Either way, I still support the virgin. Virgins are the best. Virgins
>help me when I am too drunk to be mentally stable.
Well now we have proof that Tedw is drinking.
Since this is the case, he is banned from both
these newsgroups alt.recovery.addiction.alcoholism,alt.recovery.aa.
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newsgroup-control@usenet.com wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 03:37:23 -0500, "tedw" <tedw2@earthl=EDnk.net>
> wrote:
>
>
> Well now we have proof that Tedw is drinking.
> Since this is the case, he is banned from both
> these newsgroups alt.recovery.addiction.alcoholism,alt.recovery.aa.
Are the Christians that drink a little communion wine also banned since
they are drinking?
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| In article <1161089844.043611.136720@f16g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
tedw2@earthlink.net says...
> Are the Christians that drink a little communion wine also banned since
> they are drinking?
Blah blah.........Same O' same O'......Come up with something different
& original for once & stop beating down your same arguments........
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| ScottyFLL 2006-10-17, 4:20 pm |
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tedw wrote:
>
> Are the Christians that drink a little communion wine also banned since
> they are drinking?
Nobody believes that you're drinking only the amount that is given at
Communion, teddy.
Additionally, your drinking after receiving medical advice to NOT
drink, due to your hepatitis C infection, indicates that you have an
obsession and compulsion with alcohol that would suggest active
alcoholism.
You are drinking despite warnings that it is dangerous to your health.
In so doing, you are not respecting the body given to you by God, and
therefore you are not respecting God himself.
Shame on you.
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ScottyFLL wrote:
> tedw wrote:
>
> Nobody believes that you're drinking only the amount that is given at
> Communion, teddy.
>
> Additionally, your drinking after receiving medical advice to NOT
> drink, due to your hepatitis C infection, indicates that you have an
> obsession and compulsion with alcohol that would suggest active
> alcoholism.
>
> You are drinking despite warnings that it is dangerous to your health.
> In so doing, you are not respecting the body given to you by God, and
> therefore you are not respecting God himself.
>
> Shame on you.
Scotty, I drink LESS than they do at communion wine. I do it very
rarely. Since diagnosed with Hep C, maybe once in a year.Never more
than an ounce.
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| On 17 Oct 2006 07:16:25 -0700, "ScottyFLL" <ScottyFLL@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>tedw wrote:
>
>Nobody believes that you're drinking only the amount that is given at
>Communion, teddy.
>
>Additionally, your drinking after receiving medical advice to NOT
>drink, due to your hepatitis C infection, indicates that you have an
>obsession and compulsion with alcohol that would suggest active
>alcoholism.
>
>You are drinking despite warnings that it is dangerous to your health.
>In so doing, you are not respecting the body given to you by God, and
>therefore you are not respecting God himself.
>
>Shame on you.
Waste. God doesn't use ted. ted uses God.
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| JoeRaisin 2006-10-17, 9:21 pm |
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tedw wrote:
> newsgroup-control@usenet.com wrote:
>
>
>
> Are the Christians that drink a little communion wine also banned since
> they are drinking?
>
Are they drinking enough to be considered evil?
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| JoeRaisin 2006-10-17, 9:21 pm |
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tedw wrote:
> ScottyFLL wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Scotty, I drink LESS than they do at communion wine. I do it very
> rarely. Since diagnosed with Hep C, maybe once in a year.Never more
> than an ounce.
>
Why do you feel a need to even drink that much?
And just to clue you in, at catholic communion much, much, much, much
less than an ounce is consumed. Generally just the barest sip.
About two ounces (mixed with water) are put into the chalice and around
a hundred folks take communion.
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"JoeRaisin" <> And just to clue you in, at catholic communion much, much,
much, much
> less than an ounce is consumed. Generally just the barest sip.
> About two ounces (mixed with water) are put into the chalice and around a
> hundred folks take communion.
In some churches Joe, maybe in your neck of the woods.
As a rule, catholic churches don't give wine out. There are many reasons
for this, one of which is the 'fasting' rule. Wine on an
empty-since-last-night belly would make you shite faster than any prune
juice. And funny enough most churches don't have stalls (toilets).
Another reason is because of the large attendances at church it would take
forever. And because some people are 'greedy' , the wine offering would be
an occasion of sin (gluttony).
And finally the greatest germ spreader of all is a wet dribbley mouth on the
lip of a chalice. These things are made of gold, usually 22 to 24 carat,
which is not one bit hard wearing, and priests hate to see their assets
being worn away by the greedy communicants.
Honestly, communion wine is strictly for the priest, and he can decide how
much to put in the chalice. I know for a fact that wine doesn't hold for
much longer than a day (the cheap celebrant wines), so it is usually dished
out after mass, if the altar servers don't get to it first.
Now the proddies on the other hand are all lushes and they use up several
bottles for their communion sacrifice. I saw two of them one time fighting
over it. One guy held the throat of another and he was trying to suck the
dregs out of the first guys mouth. Dirty buggers them Prodies, for desert
they usually eat stewed catholic babies :-)
Cheers
Tommy
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| ScottyFLL 2006-10-17, 9:21 pm |
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tedw wrote:
>
> Scotty, I drink LESS than they do at communion wine. I do it very
> rarely. Since diagnosed with Hep C, maybe once in a year.Never more
> than an ounce.
Well, if that's true (and it'd be very difficult to pour a glass that
would contain less than the amount of usually-watered-down wine given
at Communion -- the last time I took Communion the hard, non-porous
wafer was dipped briefly in wine -- couldn't even taste the wine), then
you're not even drinking in moderation. You're getting the same amount
of alcohol in you that a swipe with an alcohol-soaked swab or Stridex
pad would give you.
So this whole thing about drinking in moderation being OK is false.
You aren't drinking in amounts that would even approach what anyone
would consider "moderation". A moderate drinker will have a drink or
two. Not "an ounce" of wine, but a nice beer or gin-and-tonic.
So maybe you can change your tune: Drinking in moderation is not
recommended for anyone who has ever had a problem with drinking (be
they "drunks", "alcoholics", "evil", "diseased" or otherwise).
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| 12stepper@aa.com 2006-10-18, 2:21 am |
| On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 00:37:57 +0100, "Tommy"
<tommyleprechaunATgmail.com> wrote:
>
>"JoeRaisin" <> And just to clue you in, at catholic communion much, much,
>much, much
>
>
>In some churches Joe, maybe in your neck of the woods.
>
>As a rule, catholic churches don't give wine out. There are many reasons
>for this, one of which is the 'fasting' rule. Wine on an
>empty-since-last-night belly would make you shite faster than any prune
>juice. And funny enough most churches don't have stalls (toilets).
>
>Another reason is because of the large attendances at church it would take
>forever. And because some people are 'greedy' , the wine offering would be
>an occasion of sin (gluttony).
>
>And finally the greatest germ spreader of all is a wet dribbley mouth on the
>lip of a chalice. These things are made of gold, usually 22 to 24 carat,
>which is not one bit hard wearing, and priests hate to see their assets
>being worn away by the greedy communicants.
>
>Honestly, communion wine is strictly for the priest, and he can decide how
>much to put in the chalice. I know for a fact that wine doesn't hold for
>much longer than a day (the cheap celebrant wines), so it is usually dished
>out after mass, if the altar servers don't get to it first.
>
>Now the proddies on the other hand are all lushes and they use up several
>bottles for their communion sacrifice. I saw two of them one time fighting
>over it. One guy held the throat of another and he was trying to suck the
>dregs out of the first guys mouth. Dirty buggers them Prodies, for desert
>they usually eat stewed catholic babies :-)
>Cheers
>Tommy
>
Actually this is not true. I was raised Catholic. In the old days
they would pass the chalice to anyone that wanted wine. Not children
though. You could choose to have just the host, or both host and
wine.
I have not been to a Catholic church in several years, but the last
time (maybe 5 years ago), they now have little paper cups for the
wine. This is for sanitary reasons. You still have the choice of
host or host and wine. The amount in the paper cup is less than a
shotglass. I did not take the wine anytime recently, but they used to
have real wine when I was much younger.
I heard some chruches now have non-alcoholic wine, and some have both
the real stuff and the NA. (So you have to choose). I dont know if
this is true, but I heard it from someone that goes every Sunday and
has no reason to lie about it.
Maybe things changed in the last 5 years, but thats how it was the
last time I attended. Personally, I never cared to take the chalice
even when I did drink, because of the unsanitary reasons. I do like
the idea of the paper cups. (By the way, the container the priest
holds is still a gold chalice, and some one else holds the paper cups
for him to fill).
And Ted, how come yesterday you said you drank a lot and liked being
an alcoholic and today you only take church wine. Your stories are
totally inconsistant. You are not even good at being a troll.
Obviously you are drinking far too much to remember what you said the
day before. Maybe you should stop trolling and get to meetings.
(Dont waste telling us how much you despise AA, we know all of that.
But for your own good, get to some meetings).
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| JoeRaisin 2006-10-18, 8:22 am |
|
12stepper@aa.com wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Oct 2006 00:37:57 +0100, "Tommy"
> <tommyleprechaunATgmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Actually this is not true. I was raised Catholic. In the old days
> they would pass the chalice to anyone that wanted wine. Not children
> though. You could choose to have just the host, or both host and
> wine.
>
> I have not been to a Catholic church in several years, but the last
> time (maybe 5 years ago), they now have little paper cups for the
> wine. This is for sanitary reasons. You still have the choice of
> host or host and wine. The amount in the paper cup is less than a
> shotglass. I did not take the wine anytime recently, but they used to
> have real wine when I was much younger.
>
> I heard some chruches now have non-alcoholic wine, and some have both
> the real stuff and the NA. (So you have to choose). I dont know if
> this is true, but I heard it from someone that goes every Sunday and
> has no reason to lie about it.
>
> Maybe things changed in the last 5 years, but thats how it was the
> last time I attended. Personally, I never cared to take the chalice
> even when I did drink, because of the unsanitary reasons. I do like
> the idea of the paper cups. (By the way, the container the priest
> holds is still a gold chalice, and some one else holds the paper cups
> for him to fill).
>
>
> And Ted, how come yesterday you said you drank a lot and liked being
> an alcoholic and today you only take church wine. Your stories are
> totally inconsistant. You are not even good at being a troll.
> Obviously you are drinking far too much to remember what you said the
> day before. Maybe you should stop trolling and get to meetings.
> (Dont waste telling us how much you despise AA, we know all of that.
> But for your own good, get to some meetings).
>
At my church they still have two stations communion, one hands out the
host while the other offers the chalice.
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| OceanView 2006-10-20, 2:21 am |
| jamielogger@yahoo.com wrote in news:jkd8j2thdq0dgkeapqc514agrroach965d@
4ax.com:
> On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 03:37:23 -0500, "tedw" <tedw2@earthlínk.net>
> wrote:
>
>
> OK, you are obviously a troll, but you also sound like a complete
> idiot and everytime you take a breath you are wasting precious air.
> It's good you drink because that way you will die soon and hopefully
> never procreate. However, I think you could do the job faster. Buy a
> cheap gun. You can probably find one for the cost of one days booze.
> Load the gun, hold it to your head and pull the trigger. All your
> problems will be solved and you will stop polluting the gene pool.
> It's time you go offline now and go to any place that sells guns.
> Don't hesitate. You got a job to do, and we will all be glad when you
> finish. Just aim for your brain stem and be sure you use the most
> powerful bullet you can find. Goodbye forever.
>
> PLONK
>
>
>
Not just a troll, a supertroll (or super-idiot if you prefer)
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| dougwa 2006-10-20, 8:20 am |
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GaryE wrote:
> On 17 Oct 2006 07:16:25 -0700, "ScottyFLL" <ScottyFLL@gmail.com>
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> Waste. God doesn't use ted. ted uses God.
Gary, you dont even believe in God. Thats why you are called Godless
Gary.
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| Christine 2006-10-21, 2:21 am |
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OceanView wrote:
> jamielogger@yahoo.com wrote in news:jkd8j2thdq0dgkeapqc514agrroach965d@
> 4ax.com:
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> Not just a troll, a supertroll (or super-idiot if you prefer)
Ha - this is why these newsgroups crack me up. Troll? Maybe. But he
brought up a point that I identified with, which I replied to, and
instead of exploring the positive side, the side that leads into a
constructive dialog about alcoholism and/or recovery everyone would
rather talk about more comfortable things. Everyone starts waving
thier arms, running in circles, Troll, TROLL, TROLL!!!
The same crap happens at meetings. Recovery - tell me what to say and
think and everything else I'll bury like I did like I was drinking only
I'll keep it for the 4th and 5th step. Is that recovery in a nutshell?
Crap.
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| OceanView 2006-10-23, 9:26 pm |
| "Christine" <ctbean4@hotmail.com> wrote in news:1161398627.478295.54520
@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com:
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> OceanView wrote:
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> Ha - this is why these newsgroups crack me up. Troll? Maybe. But he
> brought up a point that I identified with, which I replied to, and
> instead of exploring the positive side, the side that leads into a
> constructive dialog about alcoholism and/or recovery everyone would
> rather talk about more comfortable things. Everyone starts waving
> thier arms, running in circles, Troll, TROLL, TROLL!!!
The point is that this troll is well-established. He has NO valid points,
only those he can use to bait you into thinking you'll have a meaningful
exchange. You won't.
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> The same crap happens at meetings. Recovery - tell me what to say and
> think and everything else I'll bury like I did like I was drinking only
> I'll keep it for the 4th and 5th step. Is that recovery in a nutshell?
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> Crap.
>
Yes, that happens sometimes. If yout find it happening ALL the time, find
another meeting. The biggest problem I have is that I'm agnostic and live
in the bible belt. I get lot of pitiful, disapproving looks when I talk
about it, so generally, I don't talk about it.
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