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EXPERIENCE SRTENGTH AND HOPE ?????
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| Dave Bachman 2004-11-03, 11:06 am |
| Gosh, it seems there'd precious little of that in here. Think I'll head off
to a "real" meeting. (i.e. where we read how it works, the tradtions, the promises,
etc..) If this group represents what A.A. is supposed to be like then we,
as an (loosely bound) organization, are in SERIOUS trouble.
...db
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| Dan McGown 2004-11-03, 11:06 am |
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"Dave Bachman" <dbachman@spamhaters.net> wrote in message
news:10ohuk57b3d124e@corp.supernews.com...
> Gosh, it seems there'd precious little of that in here. Think I'll head
> off
> to a "real" meeting. (i.e. where we read how it works, the tradtions, the
> promises,
> etc..) If this group represents what A.A. is supposed to be like then we,
> as an (loosely bound) organization, are in SERIOUS trouble.
>
> ..db
Dave,
This group has many serious faults, but being an AA group isn't even on
the list -- or even in the title.
Even when it works correctly, this is just a discussion board on the
topic of recovery from alcohol addiction. Now, it happens that a large
number of us are in AA because the highest percentage of recovering
alcoholics that I'm aware of got there through AA. Nevertheless, at best,
it isn't a meeting or even a reasonable facsimile of a meeting.
At worst, it occasionally gets highjacked by axe-grinders and trolls of
varrious types.
In the middle ground it is a place where some of our members vent or
act out in ways that they would not do on a face to face basis.
Hey, it is what it is. Sometimes it's useful and sometimes it isn't.
On balance, though, I have found a number of useful insights through
checking in here periodically. It's a mistake, though, to try to judge it
as you would a meeting.
Best to you and yours,
Dan
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"Dave Bachman" <dbachman@spamhaters.net> wrote in message
news:10ohuk57b3d124e@corp.supernews.com...
> Gosh, it seems there'd precious little of that in here. Think I'll head
> off
> to a "real" meeting. (i.e. where we read how it works, the tradtions, the
> promises,
> etc..) If this group represents what A.A. is supposed to be like then we,
> as an (loosely bound) organization, are in SERIOUS trouble.
>
> ..db
Dave- Why would you think that the charter of a.r.a.a would suggest that it
'represents what A.A. is supposed to be like' ? What I see that this group
represents is a wide variety of opinions, beliefs and experiences; and
certainly not just those related to AA. For me it's the diversity of ideas
that keeps me coming back. Hope you stop by again.
p.s. you're correct, this is not a "real" meeting...our coffee is much
better.
-Steve
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| Fred Exley 2004-11-03, 7:07 pm |
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"Dave Bachman" <dbachman@spamhaters.net> wrote in message
news:10ohuk57b3d124e@corp.supernews.com...
> Gosh, it seems there'd precious little of that in here. Think I'll head
> off
> to a "real" meeting. (i.e. where we read how it works, the tradtions, the
> promises,
> etc..) If this group represents what A.A. is supposed to be like then we,
> as an (loosely bound) organization, are in SERIOUS trouble.
>
> ..db
>
'precious little' is the thing to focus on, Dave. The majority of stuff
posted here is petty and has nothing to do with alcoholism. However,
sometimes the threads really are on-topic, and in those rare cases I've
gained invaluable insight and wisdom here that's helped my recovery. Those
rare gems have made it worthwhile to me to be here.
The rest of the time we try and make hamburger out of each other 
-Fred
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| rosie readandpost 2004-11-03, 7:07 pm |
| >> If this group represents what A.A.[vbcol=seagreen]
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this newsgroup is NOT AA........................if you looking for
AA recovery online support i suggest your go here:
http://www.aa-intergroup.org/
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| Scott W. 2004-11-03, 7:07 pm |
| In article <Pj8id.21408$Df1.16523@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
readandpost@yahooORhotmail.com says...
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Why are there so many people touting AA then? Are they
missionaries or trolls or what? Because it seems
that it'd be like advertising or off topic.
--
"I hate bears. Anyhow, the more the merrier!" -B Dylan
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| rosie readandpost 2004-11-03, 7:07 pm |
| scott,
there are a lot of folks who frequent this newsgroup who use AA as a
tool for their recovery.
--
rosie
FOCUS: Iraqi Oil Pipeline Blown Up
http://www.truthout.org/docs_04/110404Y.shtml
"Scott W." <bedtime@bonzoranch.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1bf2c1aae614e64e98c394@news.alt.net...
: In article <Pj8id.21408$Df1.16523@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
: readandpost@yahooORhotmail.com says...
: > >> If this group represents what A.A.
: > >> is supposed to be like then we,
: > >> as an (loosely bound) organization, are in SERIOUS trouble.
: > >>
: > >> ..db
: >
: >
: Why are there so many people touting AA then? Are they
: missionaries or trolls or what? Because it seems
: that it'd be like advertising or off topic.
: --
: "I hate bears. Anyhow, the more the merrier!" -B Dylan
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"Dave Bachman" <dbachman@spamhaters.net> wrote in message
news:10ohuk57b3d124e@corp.supernews.com...
> Gosh, it seems there'd precious little of that in here. Think I'll
head off
> to a "real" meeting. (i.e. where we read how it works, the
tradtions, the promises,
> etc..) If this group represents what A.A. is supposed to be like
then we,
> as an (loosely bound) organization, are in SERIOUS trouble.
>
> ..db
If AA encourages it's members to pass on it's message and you think
you know what that message is, why not stay and share it. Then you'd
be doing 12th Step work and from such work someone here - maybe a
lurker - might benefit.
JB
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| Scott W. 2004-11-03, 7:07 pm |
| In article <Pz9id.21415$Df1.9646@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
readandpost@yahooORhotmail.com says...
> scott,
> there are a lot of folks who frequent this newsgroup who use AA as a
> tool for their recovery.
>
>
Yeah, I know. It's on-topic because it's an alcohol
recovery newsgroup. Duh. hehehehe
--
"I hate bears. Anyhow, the more the merrier!" -B Dylan
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| CoLonel Polyps 2004-11-03, 10:06 pm |
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"Dan McGown" <dmcgown@adelphia.net> wrote in message
news:7PydnSkpFOUzmxTcRVn-hw@adelphia.com...
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> "Dave Bachman" <dbachman@spamhaters.net> wrote in message
> news:10ohuk57b3d124e@corp.supernews.com...
head[vbcol=seagreen]
tradtions, the[vbcol=seagreen]
then we,[vbcol=seagreen]
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> Dave,
> This group has many serious faults, but being an AA group isn't
even on
> the list -- or even in the title.
> Even when it works correctly, this is just a discussion board on
the
> topic of recovery from alcohol addiction. Now, it happens that a
large
> number of us are in AA because the highest percentage of recovering
> alcoholics that I'm aware of got there through AA. Nevertheless, at
best,
> it isn't a meeting or even a reasonable facsimile of a meeting.
> At worst, it occasionally gets highjacked by axe-grinders and
trolls of
> varrious types.
Puking religious shit like you
> In the middle ground it is a place where some of our members vent
or
> act out in ways that they would not do on a face to face basis.
> Hey, it is what it is. Sometimes it's useful and sometimes it
isn't.
> On balance, though, I have found a number of useful insights through
> checking in here periodically. It's a mistake, though, to try to
judge it
> as you would a meeting.
Hey I wouldn't mind smoing pot with an alcoholic as long as they do not
throw up in my bong.
Just kidding alcoholics are the reasons I cannot consume cannabis.
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| Joe Jared 2004-11-04, 11:06 am |
| Dave Bachman wrote:
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> Gosh, it seems there'd precious little of that in here. Think I'll head off
> to a "real" meeting. (i.e. where we read how it works, the tradtions, the promises,
> etc..) If this group represents what A.A. is supposed to be like then we,
> as an (loosely bound) organization, are in SERIOUS trouble.
>
> ..db
Sometimes the mess is the best kind of message there is.
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| Fred Exley 2004-11-05, 7:07 pm |
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"Dave Bachman" <dbachman@spamhaters.net> wrote in message
news:10ohuk57b3d124e@corp.supernews.com...
> Gosh, it seems there'd precious little of that in here. Think I'll head
> off
> to a "real" meeting. (i.e. where we read how it works, the tradtions, the
> promises,
> etc..) If this group represents what A.A. is supposed to be like then we,
> as an (loosely bound) organization, are in SERIOUS trouble.
>
> ..db
>
'precious little' is the thing to focus on, Dave. The majority of stuff
posted here is petty and has nothing to do with alcoholism. However,
sometimes the threads really are on-topic, and in those rare cases I've
gained invaluable insight and wisdom here that's helped my recovery. Those
rare gems have made it worthwhile to me to be here.
The rest of the time we try and make hamburger out of each other
-Fred
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| Scott W. 2004-11-05, 7:07 pm |
| In article <Pj8id.21408$Df1.16523@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
readandpost@yahooORhotmail.com says...
>
>
Why are there so many people touting AA then? Are they
missionaries or trolls or what? Because it seems
that it'd be like advertising or off topic.
--
"I hate bears. Anyhow, the more the merrier!" -B Dylan
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| Scott W. 2004-11-06, 2:06 am |
| In article <Pz9id.21415$Df1.9646@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
readandpost@yahooORhotmail.com says...
> scott,
> there are a lot of folks who frequent this newsgroup who use AA as a
> tool for their recovery.
>
>
Yeah, I know. It's on-topic because it's an alcohol
recovery newsgroup. Duh. hehehehe
--
"I hate bears. Anyhow, the more the merrier!" -B Dylan
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| Scott W. 2004-11-08, 7:07 pm |
| In article <Pz9id.21415$Df1.9646@twister.rdc-kc.rr.com>,
readandpost@yahooORhotmail.com says...
> scott,
> there are a lot of folks who frequent this newsgroup who use AA as a
> tool for their recovery.
>
>
Yeah, I know. It's on-topic because it's an alcohol
recovery newsgroup. Duh. hehehehe
--
"I hate bears. Anyhow, the more the merrier!" -B Dylan
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