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Only to alcoholics ? (What to do)
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| Srgnt Billko 2006-08-28, 4:21 pm |
| "Ted L." <TedL719@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Approval.
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> I suppose you also read the 12th step as saying "carry this message only
> to
> alcoholics"
> Ted L.
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My copy doesn't say anything about carrying the message to Martians. My copy
says, " to carry this message to alcoholics". Pretty specific if you are
reading it as a contract - and it seems obvious that the "only" is implied -
especially when read in the context of our 12 Traditions. The spirit of
Alcoholics Anonymous is to help alcoholics recover from alcoholism. But
this is a self-interpretive program so you can read it any way you like.
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| In article <gbFIg.860$5i3.518@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
frrt@blipl.net says...
> "Ted L." <TedL719@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:50DIg.2$%k.136326@news.sisna.com...
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> My copy doesn't say anything about carrying the message to Martians. My copy
> says, " to carry this message to alcoholics". Pretty specific if you are
> reading it as a contract - and it seems obvious that the "only" is implied -
> especially when read in the context of our 12 Traditions. The spirit of
> Alcoholics Anonymous is to help alcoholics recover from alcoholism. But
> this is a self-interpretive program so you can read it any way you like.
Dual addicted, cross addicted (whatever an alcoholic/addict calls
themselves these days), beware, stars will be handed out at the entrance
doors and must be displayed at all times........
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| On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 15:33:03 -0400, ByTor <ByTor@snowdog.com> wrote:
>In article <gbFIg.860$5i3.518@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>,
>frrt@blipl.net says...
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>Dual addicted, cross addicted (whatever an alcoholic/addict calls
>themselves these days), beware, stars will be handed out at the entrance
>doors and must be displayed at all times........
I'm glad to see these really important questions discussed. Let's
hope a Martian doesn't show up at an AA meeting. On the other hand,
some drunks may have seen Martians. We had a guard at the door of
every AA meeting checking credentials. We called him/her a greeter
but you know we always required some ID and some proof that the person
was indeed an achoholic and not some dude/dudette trying to slip in
and spy on us. Some of the folks in Dallas (when I was there) didn't
like atheists or agnostics either. They didn't block them at the door
but they spent some time trying to insult them in open meetings. Made
for good unity.
Best,
GaryE
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| In article <rfk6f292hgm48juk7mql9d2a1l8ikenut3@4ax.com>,
garyexxxxxx@swbell.net says...
> On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 15:33:03 -0400, ByTor <ByTor@snowdog.com> wrote:
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> I'm glad to see these really important questions discussed. Let's
> hope a Martian doesn't show up at an AA meeting. On the other hand,
> some drunks may have seen Martians. We had a guard at the door of
> every AA meeting checking credentials. We called him/her a greeter
> but you know we always required some ID and some proof that the person
> was indeed an achoholic and not some dude/dudette trying to slip in
> and spy on us. Some of the folks in Dallas (when I was there) didn't
> like atheists or agnostics either. They didn't block them at the door
> but they spent some time trying to insult them in open meetings. Made
> for good unity.
>
> Best,
> GaryE
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http://www.mountbaker65.com/files/S...AreTheWorld.wav
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| Ted L. 2006-08-28, 9:20 pm |
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"GaryE" <garyexxxxxx@swbell.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 15:33:03 -0400, ByTor <ByTor@snowdog.com> wrote:
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> I'm glad to see these really important questions discussed. Let's
> hope a Martian doesn't show up at an AA meeting. On the other hand,
> some drunks may have seen Martians. We had a guard at the door of
> every AA meeting checking credentials. We called him/her a greeter
> but you know we always required some ID and some proof that the person
> was indeed an achoholic and not some dude/dudette trying to slip in
> and spy on us. Some of the folks in Dallas (when I was there) didn't
> like atheists or agnostics either. They didn't block them at the door
> but they spent some time trying to insult them in open meetings. Made
> for good unity.
>
Who said anything about AA meetings?
We were talking about carrying the message. Or at least I was. (One perk of
jumping into a thread in the middle is defining the topic however you like.)
--
Ted L.
Benedictus, qui venit in nomine Domini.
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| Robert McGregor 2006-08-28, 9:20 pm |
| ByTor wrote:
> In article <rfk6f292hgm48juk7mql9d2a1l8ikenut3@4ax.com>,
> garyexxxxxx@swbell.net says...
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> http://www.mountbaker65.com/files/S...AreTheWorld.wav
Although irony in context of this discussion may elude him, I very much
doubt Michael Jackson would care to admit how revealing his lyrics
ultimately proved to be. "We are the world, we are the children"
Singleness of purpose, indeed!
http://tinyurl.com/pgbsr
Bob
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| On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 16:26:57 -0500, "Ted L." <TedL719@yahoo.com>
wrote:
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>"GaryE" <garyexxxxxx@swbell.net> wrote in message
>news:rfk6f292hgm48juk7mql9d2a1l8ikenut3@4ax.com...
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>Who said anything about AA meetings?
>We were talking about carrying the message. Or at least I was. (One perk of
>jumping into a thread in the middle is defining the topic however you like.)
True. There should be 'carrying of the message' in AA meetingss.
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| Ted L. 2006-08-29, 9:20 pm |
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"GaryE" <garyexxxxxx@swbell.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 28 Aug 2006 16:26:57 -0500, "Ted L." <TedL719@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
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> True. There should be 'carrying of the message' in AA meetingss.
But only in AA meetings?
And what is the message anyway?
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Ted L.
Benedictus, qui venit in nomine Domini.
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| On Tue, 29 Aug 2006 15:38:50 -0500, "Ted L." <TedL719@yahoo.com>
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>"GaryE" <garyexxxxxx@swbell.net> wrote in message
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>of
>like.)
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>But only in AA meetings?
>And what is the message anyway?
Whatever Sarge says it is....it's not my concern.
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| Ted L. 2006-08-30, 4:22 pm |
| "GaryE" <garyexxxxxx@swbell.net> wrote in message
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> Whatever Sarge says it is....it's not my concern.
That's what Scrooge said before he saw the light.
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Ted L.
Benedictus, qui venit in nomine Domini.
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| On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 13:09:15 -0500, "Ted L." <TedL719@yahoo.com>
wrote:
>"GaryE" <garyexxxxxx@swbell.net> wrote in message
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>That's what Scrooge said before he saw the light.
Ted, I figure it this way. If AA only has a 5% 'success rate" then
that probably means the God deal only has a 5% success rate. AA is
about the God deal first and foremost, right?
The lights are out, the party's over.....
Best,
GaryE
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| Ted L. 2006-08-31, 4:22 pm |
| "GaryE" <garyexxxxxx@swbell.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 30 Aug 2006 13:09:15 -0500, "Ted L." <TedL719@yahoo.com>
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> The lights are out, the party's over.....
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I thought the candlelight meeting thread was a different one...
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Ted L.
Benedictus, qui venit in nomine Domini.
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