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| Can a person love and hate at the same time?
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| Mark Warner 2006-04-27, 12:56 am |
| tedw wrote:
> Can a person love and hate at the same time?
Why don't you just tell us, tedw, instead of playing all these
question-and-answer games? You know all the answers anyway...
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Mark Warner
lose .inhibitions when replying
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| Tim and Lisa 2006-04-27, 12:56 am |
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"tedw" <tedw2@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Can a person love and hate at the same time?
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Love and dislike, sure! ;o)
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| Pepperoni 2006-04-27, 12:56 am |
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"tedw" <tedw2@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> Can a person love and hate at the same time?
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Some folks are ambivalent about everything.
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| ByTor 2006-04-27, 12:57 am |
| In article <1146093637.076794.51930@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, tedw2
@earthlink.net, tedw says...
> Can a person love and hate at the same time?
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Depends? What does she look like?
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| ByTor 2006-04-27, 12:57 am |
| In article <1146093637.076794.51930@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, tedw2
@earthlink.net, tedw says...
> Can a person love and hate at the same time?
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Okay I thought about it for another minute.......
Do you "love" me teddy, yet hate me?.........Is that what Jaysus tells
ya to do......Amen bruddha!
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| Tim and Lisa 2006-04-27, 12:57 am |
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"tedw" <tedw2@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>Put your thinkin cap on.
Well shit the bed Fred, somebody stole my thinkin cap!!
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tedw wrote:
> Can a person love and hate at the same time?
Eros, agape, or philia?
Usage and context ALWAYS play a critical element in understanding that
a word means IN A SPECIFIC CASE. And all honest attempts to understand
a text-biblical, political, scientific, philosophical--must begin with
this understanding of the richness and flexibility of natural language.
All attempts to 'force' a word into a narrow range of meaning are
subject to error.
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ByTor wrote:
> In article <1146093637.076794.51930@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, tedw2
> @earthlink.net, tedw says...
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> Okay I thought about it for another minute.......
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> Do you "love" me teddy, yet hate me?.........Is that what Jaysus tells
> ya to do......Amen bruddha!
Dont hate you at all. However, you do have a problem, You wouldnt talk
about Christ the way you do if you didnt have, Like I said, maybe its
the result of some hypocritical religious trauma, or maybe its
something more spiritual.
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| Your right, the English language is sometime very poor to communicate
with. Especially the word "love". You can love your whiskey and love
your son or daughter but not hardly the same thing.
Can you have agape Love and hate at the same time? Is that better?
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tedw wrote:
> Can you have agape Love and hate at the same time? Is that better?
ya mean to give or receive agape? No one can give agape love. Humans
are capable of love and hate at the same time. Just not in the largest
meaning of either word.
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| OceanView 2006-04-27, 12:57 am |
| "tedw" <tedw2@earthlink.net> wrote in news:1146093637.076794.51930
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> Can a person love and hate at the same time?
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I'm a Red Sox fan.
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| TaraG 2006-04-27, 12:57 am |
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"JimB" <jimbuckland@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> ya mean to give or receive agape? No one can give agape love. Humans
> are capable of love and hate at the same time. Just not in the largest
> meaning of either word.
I thought you couldn't obtain agape love, but could in fact *only* give it.
Maybe I'm confused on that.
I agree with the rest. Both can, and I suspect often are, felt
simultaneously at different points on the spectrum.....barring the extremes
of the spectrum, imo. At those levels, there's very little room left for the
opposing emotion.
Tara
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| ByTor 2006-04-27, 10:56 am |
| In article <1146106596.198578.34160@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, tedw2
@earthlink.net, tedw says...
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> ByTor wrote:
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> Dont hate you at all. However, you do have a problem, You wouldnt talk
> about Christ the way you do if you didnt have, Like I said, maybe its
> the result of some hypocritical religious trauma, or maybe its
> something more spiritual.
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I don't hate you either teddy, I don't like the way you present "your"
issues..........Me not liking christ, not the case, has nothing to do
with it. I don't have a problem with that at all, what I may have a
problem with is how the "philisophy" is twisted in its representation to
suit individuals needs, justifications, ambitions, political agendas,
etc.....
Have I had some kind of religious trauma? Once again you're getting
psych 101 on me teddy, instead of assuming I've had "trauma" all maybe
ya had to do was just ask what my issue was.........Geeeee, that would
be to simple eh? Than again I wouldn't tell you anything because your
motivations and agenda are twisted to justify your positions and you sir
are definately "NOT" on a two-way street........It would only serve to
give you more ammunition...........
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TaraG wrote:
> I thought you couldn't obtain agape love, but could in fact *only* give it.
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> Maybe I'm confused on that.
Might be me ;-) Thought Agape was a "top down" type of love akin to
loving someone so much you give your life for them, with a little
stronger depth than that, believed by the greeks. Maybe not.
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| ByTor 2006-04-27, 10:56 am |
| In article <1146106717.533683.176090@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>,
tedw2@earthlink.net, tedw says...
> Your right, the English language is sometime very poor to communicate
> with.
Oh geeeez, another issue?
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OceanView wrote:
> I'm a Red Sox fan.
So you love you don't have to live like that anymore (for awhile)? ;-)
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| TaraG 2006-04-27, 10:56 am |
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"JimB" <jimbuckland@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Might be me ;-) Thought Agape was a "top down" type of love akin to
> loving someone so much you give your life for them, with a little
> stronger depth than that, believed by the greeks. Maybe not.
That was my understanding as well....which is why I though you could *only*
give agape love.
Tara
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| OceanView 2006-04-27, 10:56 am |
| "JimB" <jimbuckland@gmail.com> wrote in news:1146139998.135093.214190
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> So you love you don't have to live like that anymore (for awhile)? ;-)
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Yeah, and I know won't live another 86 years so I got that going for me!
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TaraG wrote:
> "JimB" <jimbuckland@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> That was my understanding as well....which is why I though you could *only*
> give agape love.
Ok. I'll look it up after this. I am going off memory, but I heard an
agape love explanation in a religious situation. "That God so loved
the world, that he gave....." That type of agape. Love we can guess
the depth of, but not fully comprehend. We receive this love from God
and do not have the ability to give love that deeply. That is a
definition I heard and can accept. I am open to other definitions.
Maybe we can give it by a totally selfless action/reaction - I like
that as well.
JimB
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| TaraG 2006-04-28, 12:57 am |
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"JimB" <jimbuckland@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Ok. I'll look it up after this. I am going off memory, but I heard an
> agape love explanation in a religious situation. "That God so loved
> the world, that he gave....." That type of agape. Love we can guess
> the depth of, but not fully comprehend. We receive this love from God
> and do not have the ability to give love that deeply. That is a
> definition I heard and can accept. I am open to other definitions.
That's a use of the word that certainly fits its definition....including the
lack of an ability to reciprocate. God (for those who believe such
things....heh) can give agape love. One can be on the receiving end of it,
but in terms of being an active participant, one can only give it, one can't
seek it out, ot inspire it. By its very nature, the giver is the only
deciding factor. Outside of cristianity though, agape love is *any* sort of
"from the top down" type of selfless love.
> Maybe we can give it by a totally selfless action/reaction - I like
> that as well.
Yeah. Those Greeks were pretty cool. You know....for homos.
Tara
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TaraG wrote:
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> Yeah. Those Greeks were pretty cool. You know....for homos.
rotflmao :-))!
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| Miss Glamour 2006-04-28, 12:57 am |
| Just take the cap off the whiskey bottle and make a drink for yourself,
doll-face. Kiss-kiss.
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