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| stuart 2005-08-21, 8:46 am |
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tedw <tedw2@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> article at http://Christianrecovery.blogspot.com
Lemme get this straight. The author of the first article is choked because
some drunks in recovery can't get food stamps because they happen to attend
a recovery centre which chooses not to embrace a disease concept of
alcoholism.
That's a farcical waste of hot air. Here, in Alberta, at least we obtain
food in one of two ways. We either work at a job to pay for food at the
grocery store, or. we grow food to eat.
And that's the TRUTH.
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| On Sun, 21 Aug 2005 06:22:26 GMT, "stuart" <fred@nospam.com> wrote:
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>tedw <tedw2@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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>Lemme get this straight. The author of the first article is choked because
>some drunks in recovery can't get food stamps because they happen to attend
>a recovery centre which chooses not to embrace a disease concept of
>alcoholism.
>That's a farcical waste of hot air. Here, in Alberta, at least we obtain
>food in one of two ways. We either work at a job to pay for food at the
>grocery store, or. we grow food to eat.
>And that's the TRUTH.
>
I think most, if not all, but you have concluded that tedw is the
epitomy of ennui. or the word, inane, comes to mind. yet....you keep
him posting...you aren't his sock puppet, are you?
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stuart wrote:
> tedw <tedw2@earthlink.net> wrote in message
> news:1124579037.036778.132490@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
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> Lemme get this straight. The author of the first article is choked because
> some drunks in recovery can't get food stamps because they happen to attend
> a recovery centre which chooses not to embrace a disease concept of
> alcoholism.
> That's a farcical waste of hot air. Here, in Alberta, at least we obtain
> food in one of two ways. We either work at a job to pay for food at the
> grocery store, or. we grow food to eat.
> And that's the TRUTH.
In the beginning of recovery some alcohlics and addicts are so screwed
up and devastated, they arent able to work. What about them Stuart?
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| stuart 2005-08-22, 8:48 am |
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tedw <tedw2@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> stuart wrote:
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> In the beginning of recovery some alcohlics and addicts are so screwed
> up and devastated, they arent able to work. What about them Stuart?
Salvation Army Christian Church, ted.. They will feed you, whether or not
you are in recovery, and they won't call anyone a "sinner" either.They know
better than to do that. They know only God can be the judge of that, ted.
They teach drunks to either learn how to get a job, or how to grow food ted.
That's what they offer to do. My brother, who was more severely disabled
than ANY drunk, had a job shredding paper, ted. He was deaf, could not
speak, hemi-paralyzed in a wheelchair, severely retarded, and needed
assistance eating. Never touched a drop of alcohol in his 39 years on this
earth. He had a job ted.
The "government" is not involved.in the Sally Ann either.
You sound like an "issue" looking for a place to pick it...
Get on your knees and pray for forgiveness ted, for ALL of your "sins", ted.
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| Sharx35 2005-08-22, 8:48 am |
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"stuart" <fred@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> tedw <tedw2@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> because
> attend
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> Salvation Army Christian Church, ted.. They will feed you, whether or not
> you are in recovery, and they won't call anyone a "sinner" either.They
> know
> better than to do that. They know only God can be the judge of that, ted.
> They teach drunks to either learn how to get a job, or how to grow food
> ted.
> That's what they offer to do. My brother, who was more severely disabled
> than ANY drunk, had a job shredding paper, ted. He was deaf, could not
> speak, hemi-paralyzed in a wheelchair, severely retarded, and needed
> assistance eating. Never touched a drop of alcohol in his 39 years on this
> earth. He had a job ted.
> The "government" is not involved.in the Sally Ann either.
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> You sound like an "issue" looking for a place to pick it...
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> Get on your knees and pray for forgiveness ted, for ALL of your "sins",
> ted.
Ted assumes the "on the knees" position when paying homage to "man meat".
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| stuart 2005-08-22, 8:48 am |
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Sharx35 <sharx35@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "stuart" <fred@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> Ted assumes the "on the knees" position when paying homage to "man meat".
I have just repented for picking on ted:-)
Praise the Lord!
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| On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 04:34:28 GMT, "Sharx35" <sharx35@hotmail.com>
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>"stuart" <fred@nospam.com> wrote in message
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>Ted assumes the "on the knees" position when paying homage to "man meat".
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The secret is out about your favorite screw driver.....philip's!
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| Philip Demarco 2005-08-22, 8:48 am |
| In article <hfmig15grkri4to70k8igrrhef676cgcba@4ax.com>, Tom
<twizzard@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> The secret is out about your favorite screw driver.....philip's!
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That's one thing I've always liked about you Tom. Such a man's man.
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Philip Demarco
WYSIWYG
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| On Mon, 22 Aug 2005 05:51:06 GMT, thewineguy@nc.rr.com (Philip
Demarco) wrote:
>That's one thing I've always liked about you Tom. Such a man's man.
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>--
>Philip Demarco
>WYSIWYG
Philip I do believe all this started with what you perceived as an
implication and now has digressed to the point I feel like the fellow
in the bar standing up for the gal who has just been knocked off her
barstool by standing between her and the fellow who hit her only to
have her come flying off the floor attacking me while shouting, "Leave
my man alone."
So, as my friends kid would say, my bad.
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| Philip Demarco 2005-08-23, 8:46 am |
| In article <sdijg19kes3mkrvdsnkmd0dc8ckich04li@4ax.com>, Tom
<twizzard@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Philip I do believe all this started with what you perceived as an
> implication and now has digressed to the point I feel like the fellow
> in the bar standing up for the gal who has just been knocked off her
> barstool by standing between her and the fellow who hit her only to
> have her come flying off the floor attacking me while shouting, "Leave
> my man alone."
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> So, as my friends kid would say, my bad.
Happens. Happened. Actually did.
I was seventeen. Doing this dumb "management-trainee" thing in Liverpool.
Standing on the steps of this six story "banquet-complex," and noticed a
guy taking long strides up the hill with a woman hanging on his arm.
She was slurring, "But baby...I love you," and his response was to turn
round and
punch her...hard and definite...in her face at which point, she'd whip
around from
the blow, and repeat her refrain. I looked at the guy I was standing next
to and said,
"right?" he said in response, "right."
Pennies in those days in Britain were larger than silver dollars but
slimmer and made
of copper. I threaded three inbetween my knuckles and walked to the guy
and cold
decked him, screaming, "How do YOU like it?" cutting him through to the bone.
Almost instantly, I was knocked to my knees by the woman swinging her
pocket-book
that ripped my ear partly from my head.
Late night. Trying to be verbally cute and shake Shark. Didn't work at all.
Now I've got Bob baying at my moral ankles. So it goes.
Oh well.
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Philip Demarco
WYSIWYG
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| Sharx35 2005-08-23, 8:46 am |
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"Philip Demarco" <thewineguy@nc.rr.com> wrote in message
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> In article <sdijg19kes3mkrvdsnkmd0dc8ckich04li@4ax.com>, Tom
> <twizzard@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Happens. Happened. Actually did.
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> I was seventeen. Doing this dumb "management-trainee" thing in Liverpool.
> Standing on the steps of this six story "banquet-complex," and noticed a
> guy taking long strides up the hill with a woman hanging on his arm.
> She was slurring, "But baby...I love you," and his response was to turn
> round and
> punch her...hard and definite...in her face at which point, she'd whip
> around from
> the blow, and repeat her refrain. I looked at the guy I was standing next
> to and said,
> "right?" he said in response, "right."
>
> Pennies in those days in Britain were larger than silver dollars but
> slimmer and made
> of copper. I threaded three inbetween my knuckles and walked to the guy
> and cold
> decked him, screaming, "How do YOU like it?" cutting him through to the
> bone.
> Almost instantly, I was knocked to my knees by the woman swinging her
> pocket-book
> that ripped my ear partly from my head.
>
> Late night. Trying to be verbally cute and shake Shark. Didn't work at
> all.
> Now I've got Bob baying at my moral ankles. So it goes.
>
Bob may be at your ANKLES now, however he will slowly work his way up to
your moral "man meat".
> Oh well.
>
> --
> Philip Demarco
> WYSIWYG
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| On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 04:17:48 GMT, thewineguy@nc.rr.com (Philip
Demarco) wrote:
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>Late night. Trying to be verbally cute and shake Shark. Didn't work at all.
>Now I've got Bob baying at my moral ankles. So it goes.
>
>Oh well.
we have saints in this ng...nothing worse than a reformed drunk..nor a
reformed sinner...the straight road to saint hood.
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| On Tue, 23 Aug 2005 07:09:29 -0500, GaryE <garyexxxxxxx@swbell.net>
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>we have saints in this ng...nothing worse than a reformed drunk..nor a
>reformed sinner...the straight road to saint hood.
I would vote for the worse being a reformed smoker amongst all the
reformed.
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| Mark Warner 2005-08-23, 8:46 am |
| Tom wrote:
> GaryE wrote:
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> I would vote for the worse being a reformed smoker amongst all the
> reformed.
Lech bait.
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Mark Warner
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| Sharx35 2005-08-24, 8:47 am |
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"Mark Warner" <mhwarner.inhibitions@insightbb.com> wrote in message
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> Tom wrote:
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> Lech bait.
Speaking of Lech...what happened to him?
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> Mark Warner
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