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Yo Walt! ;-)

Chronocidal Charlie

2005-11-18, 5:50 pm

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Remember all that scuffling around on that WUSB11 ver.2.6 Linksys
Wireless a few months ago and all the prollems I was having getting it
to GeeHaw with anything past 2.6.sumpin kernels.

Here's how it works now after a bunch of people made a bunch of
contributions of remarks, comments, and the people at Atmel Wireless
Module Making Factory got gears to turning.

charlie@suse:~> uname -a
Linux suse 2.6.13-15-default #1 Tue Sep 13 14:56:15 UTC 2005 i686 athlon
i386 GNU/Linux
charlie@suse:~>

Then I plugs in the USB and here what happen. ;-)

charlie@suse:~> dmesg
Linux version 2.6.13-15-default (geeko@buildhost) (gcc version 4.0.2
20050901 (prerelease) (SUSE Linux)) #1 Tue Sep 13 14:56:15 UTC 2005

<snip bunch of boring shite>

usb 3-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 6
/usr/src/packages/BUILD/kernel-default-2.6.13/modules-2.6.13/at76c503a-0.12beta18/at76c503-fw_skel.c:
re-using previously loaded fw
usb 3-1: reset full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 6
usb 3-1: device firmware changed
usb 3-1: USB disconnect, address 6
/usr/src/packages/BUILD/kernel-default-2.6.13/modules-2.6.13/at76c503a-0.12beta18/at76c503-fw_skel.c:
wlan%d disconnecting
/usr/src/packages/BUILD/kernel-default-2.6.13/modules-2.6.13/at76c503a-0.12beta18/at76c503-fw_skel.c:
at76c503-rfmd disconnected
usb 3-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 7
/usr/src/packages/BUILD/kernel-default-2.6.13/modules-2.6.13/at76c503a-0.12beta18/at76c503-fw_skel.c:
re-using previously loaded fw
/usr/src/packages/BUILD/kernel-default-2.6.13/modules-2.6.13/at76c503a-0.12beta18/at76c503.c:
$Id: at76c503.c,v 1.68 2004/08/29 11:41:18 jal2 Exp $ compiled Sep 13
2005 17:36:27
/usr/src/packages/BUILD/kernel-default-2.6.13/modules-2.6.13/at76c503a-0.12beta18/at76c503.c:
firmware version 1.101.4 #84 (fcs_len 4)
/usr/src/packages/BUILD/kernel-default-2.6.13/modules-2.6.13/at76c503a-0.12beta18/at76c503.c:
device's MAC 00:0c:41:0e:3c:96, regulatory domain FCC (U.S) (id 16)
/usr/src/packages/BUILD/kernel-default-2.6.13/modules-2.6.13/at76c503a-0.12beta18/at76c503.c:
registered wlan0
SFW2-INext-DROP-DEFLT IN=eth0 OUT= MAC= SRC=192.168.1.100
DST=224.0.0.251 LEN=72 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=255 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP
SPT=5353 DPT=5353 LEN=52
SFW2-INext-DROP-DEFLT IN=eth0 OUT= MAC= SRC=192.168.1.100
DST=224.0.0.251 LEN=72 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=255 ID=1 DF PROTO=UDP
SPT=5353 DPT=5353 LEN=52
SFW2-INext-DROP-DEFLT IN=eth0 OUT= MAC= SRC=192.168.1.100
DST=224.0.0.251 LEN=72 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=255 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP
SPT=5353 DPT=5353 LEN=52
charlie@suse:~>

And since I got DHCP turned off on my router, of course it ain't gonna
git no address other than card HWaddr, but here's whut happen
/sbin/ifconfig wise... ;-)

charlie@suse:~> /sbin/ifconfig
eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0E:A6:7B:85:69
inet addr:192.168.1.100 Bcast:0.0.0.0 Mask:255.255.255.255
inet6 addr: fe80::20e:a6ff:fe7b:8569/64 Scope:Link
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:214716 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:192892 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:270476593 (257.9 Mb) TX bytes:14003734 (13.3 Mb)
Interrupt:3 Base address:0x9800

lo Link encap:Local Loopback
inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1
RX packets:413 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:413 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
RX bytes:37126 (36.2 Kb) TX bytes:37126 (36.2 Kb)

wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0C:41:0E:3C:96
inet6 addr: fe80::20c:41ff:fe0e:3c96/64 Scope:Link
UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS RUNNING MTU:1500 Metric:1
RX packets:12 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
TX packets:13 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:1482 (1.4 Kb) TX bytes:4438 (4.3 Kb)

charlie@suse:~>

How dat fer plug 'nd play the road warrior way?

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Walt R.

2005-11-19, 5:50 pm

Chronocidal Charlie wrote:
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> Remember all that scuffling around on that WUSB11 ver.2.6 Linksys
> Wireless a few months ago and all the prollems I was having getting it
> to GeeHaw with anything past 2.6.sumpin kernels.
>
> Here's how it works now after a bunch of people made a bunch of
> contributions of remarks, comments, and the people at Atmel Wireless
> Module Making Factory got gears to turning.
>
> charlie@suse:~> uname -a
> Linux suse 2.6.13-15-default #1 Tue Sep 13 14:56:15 UTC 2005 i686 athlon
> i386 GNU/Linux
> charlie@suse:~>
>
> Then I plugs in the USB and here what happen. ;-)
>
> charlie@suse:~> dmesg
> Linux version 2.6.13-15-default (geeko@buildhost) (gcc version 4.0.2
> 20050901 (prerelease) (SUSE Linux)) #1 Tue Sep 13 14:56:15 UTC 2005
>
> <snip bunch of boring shite>
>
> usb 3-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 6
> /usr/src/packages/BUILD/kernel-default-2.6.13/modules-2.6.13/at76c503a-0.12beta18/at76c503-fw_skel.c:
> re-using previously loaded fw
> usb 3-1: reset full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 6
> usb 3-1: device firmware changed
> usb 3-1: USB disconnect, address 6
> /usr/src/packages/BUILD/kernel-default-2.6.13/modules-2.6.13/at76c503a-0.12beta18/at76c503-fw_skel.c:
> wlan%d disconnecting
> /usr/src/packages/BUILD/kernel-default-2.6.13/modules-2.6.13/at76c503a-0.12beta18/at76c503-fw_skel.c:
> at76c503-rfmd disconnected
> usb 3-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 7
> /usr/src/packages/BUILD/kernel-default-2.6.13/modules-2.6.13/at76c503a-0.12beta18/at76c503-fw_skel.c:
> re-using previously loaded fw
> /usr/src/packages/BUILD/kernel-default-2.6.13/modules-2.6.13/at76c503a-0.12beta18/at76c503.c:
> $Id: at76c503.c,v 1.68 2004/08/29 11:41:18 jal2 Exp $ compiled Sep 13
> 2005 17:36:27
> /usr/src/packages/BUILD/kernel-default-2.6.13/modules-2.6.13/at76c503a-0.12beta18/at76c503.c:
> firmware version 1.101.4 #84 (fcs_len 4)
> /usr/src/packages/BUILD/kernel-default-2.6.13/modules-2.6.13/at76c503a-0.12beta18/at76c503.c:
> device's MAC 00:0c:41:0e:3c:96, regulatory domain FCC (U.S) (id 16)
> /usr/src/packages/BUILD/kernel-default-2.6.13/modules-2.6.13/at76c503a-0.12beta18/at76c503.c:
> registered wlan0
> SFW2-INext-DROP-DEFLT IN=eth0 OUT= MAC= SRC=192.168.1.100
> DST=224.0.0.251 LEN=72 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=255 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP
> SPT=5353 DPT=5353 LEN=52
> SFW2-INext-DROP-DEFLT IN=eth0 OUT= MAC= SRC=192.168.1.100
> DST=224.0.0.251 LEN=72 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=255 ID=1 DF PROTO=UDP
> SPT=5353 DPT=5353 LEN=52
> SFW2-INext-DROP-DEFLT IN=eth0 OUT= MAC= SRC=192.168.1.100
> DST=224.0.0.251 LEN=72 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=255 ID=0 DF PROTO=UDP
> SPT=5353 DPT=5353 LEN=52
> charlie@suse:~>
>
> And since I got DHCP turned off on my router, of course it ain't gonna
> git no address other than card HWaddr, but here's whut happen
> /sbin/ifconfig wise... ;-)
>
> charlie@suse:~> /sbin/ifconfig
> eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0E:A6:7B:85:69
> inet addr:192.168.1.100 Bcast:0.0.0.0 Mask:255.255.255.255
> inet6 addr: fe80::20e:a6ff:fe7b:8569/64 Scope:Link
> UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500 Metric:1
> RX packets:214716 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> TX packets:192892 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
> collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
> RX bytes:270476593 (257.9 Mb) TX bytes:14003734 (13.3 Mb)
> Interrupt:3 Base address:0x9800
>
> lo Link encap:Local Loopback
> inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0
> inet6 addr: ::1/128 Scope:Host
> UP LOOPBACK RUNNING MTU:16436 Metric:1
> RX packets:413 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> TX packets:413 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
> collisions:0 txqueuelen:0
> RX bytes:37126 (36.2 Kb) TX bytes:37126 (36.2 Kb)
>
> wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0C:41:0E:3C:96
> inet6 addr: fe80::20c:41ff:fe0e:3c96/64 Scope:Link
> UP BROADCAST NOTRAILERS RUNNING MTU:1500 Metric:1
> RX packets:12 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 frame:0
> TX packets:13 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
> collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
> RX bytes:1482 (1.4 Kb) TX bytes:4438 (4.3 Kb)
>
> charlie@suse:~>
>
>
> How dat fer plug 'nd play the road warrior way?
>
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**
Yes, I remember.

Linux P&P work purty damned good!! The USB
hotplug is really nice. All I have to do in plug in
the webcam and run the software, and it works.

Walt R.
**

Sharx35

2005-11-20, 12:51 am

"Walt R." <wmreinemer@tns.net> wrote in message
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>
> Chronocidal Charlie wrote:
> **
> Yes, I remember.
>
> Linux P&P work purty damned good!! The USB
> hotplug is really nice. All I have to do in plug in
> the webcam and run the software, and it works.
>
> Walt R.
> **
>

K I S S really should apply here. Why complicate things?

Tim and Lisa

2005-11-20, 12:51 am

"Sharx35" <sharx35@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Walt R." <wmreinemer@tns.net> wrote in message
> news:1132426884.149992.183550@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> K I S S really should apply here. Why complicate things?
>
>

Keep It Simple Sisters?

Sharx35

2005-11-20, 10:50 am

"Tim and Lisa" <tworkman1@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Sharx35" <sharx35@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
> Keep It Simple Sisters?

That's what you tell black females when they try to hum during a BJ.

>
>

Chronocidal Charlie

2005-11-20, 10:50 am

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Walt R. wrote:
> Chronocidal Charlie wrote:
> Remember all that scuffling around on that WUSB11 ver.2.6 Linksys

> Here's how it works now after a bunch of people made a bunch of
> contributions
> /usr/src/packages/BUILD/kernel-default-2.6.13/modules-2.6.13/at76c503a-0.12beta18/at76c503.c:
> registered wlan0
> wlan0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr 00:0C:41:0E:3C:96
> inet6 addr: fe80::20c:41ff:fe0e:3c96/64 Scope:Link

> How dat fer plug 'nd play the road warrior way?
>
> CC
> **
> Yes, I remember.

> Linux P&P work purty damned good!! The USB
> hotplug is really nice. All I have to do in plug in
> the webcam and run the software, and it works.

> Walt R.
> **

It's come a long way in the last five or six years. Sheesh! How I
remember struggling with getting one of the first USB Lexar JumpShot USB
card readers detected, mountable and readable so I could use my first
digital camera with a Linux system without having to resort to Winders
just to transfer an image. Or the struggles with my first old USB
*round* *fruit* webcam and compiling and building a module for it. Back
around 97 or 98 it would take me a week or two to just tinker and fine
tune a Linux system to get my few off brand and archaic peripherals to
work. I had an old IBM PS1 386/25 back then that was so short on
abilities, I had to run my CDROM off the IDE built into an old SIIG
Yamaha based Sound Card. Sheesh what a hair puller to just use a CDROM
drive. ;-)

The latest couple of endeavors with MEPIS, Ubuntu, or SUSE has become
just plain damn boring. Stick an installation CD in the drawer, click a
couple of icons, go to the bathroom and sit down and take a shit and
come back and have a completely operational system up and running.
Sheesh! This SUSE even found my networked old Lexmark Z32 printer on my
homelan and did all the ipp stuff. It kind of surprised me while it was
installing to hear the old printer in the bedroom do it's brrrt. brrrt,
clack clack during the hardware detection phase and be ready fer me to
use when it came up. ;-)

I gonna have to find me a more challenging hobby.

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Mark Warner

2005-11-21, 12:50 am

Chronocidal Charlie wrote:
>
> The latest couple of endeavors with MEPIS, Ubuntu, or SUSE has become
> just plain damn boring. Stick an installation CD in the drawer, click
> a couple of icons, go to the bathroom and sit down and take a shit and
> come back and have a completely operational system up and running.
> Sheesh! This SUSE even found my networked old Lexmark Z32 printer on
> my homelan and did all the ipp stuff. It kind of surprised me while
> it was installing to hear the old printer in the bedroom do it's
> brrrt. brrrt, clack clack during the hardware detection phase and be
> ready fer me to use when it came up. ;-)
>
> I gonna have to find me a more challenging hobby.

I know you old 'nix geeks think it's a abomination, but if Linux is ever
going to get a foothold on the desktop, that's what it's gonna have to
do -- emulate Windows' ease of installation and configuration. My most
recent experiments have shown that most anybody can get it up and
running out of the box, with some distros being more feature-filled than
others. They've got the installation part down. The configuration part
has a ways to go, imo. I'm a pretty damn adept Windows user, and I'm
still stymied on how to get these two installations I'm fiddling with
(Ubuntu and MEPIS) to do what is second nature to me in an M$ operating
system.

And the first thing they need to do is give the various programs names
that make XXXXing sense to people that don't speak the language. I'd
love to try out more apps on my Ubuntu install, for example, but the
stuff that Synaptic brings up is gibberish to me.

--
Mark Warner
lose .inhibitions when replying

F.H.

2005-11-21, 12:50 am

Mark Warner wrote:
> Chronocidal Charlie wrote:
>
>
>
> I know you old 'nix geeks think it's a abomination, but if Linux is ever
> going to get a foothold on the desktop, that's what it's gonna have to
> do -- emulate Windows' ease of installation and configuration. My most
> recent experiments have shown that most anybody can get it up and
> running out of the box, with some distros being more feature-filled than
> others. They've got the installation part down. The configuration part
> has a ways to go, imo. I'm a pretty damn adept Windows user, and I'm
> still stymied on how to get these two installations I'm fiddling with
> (Ubuntu and MEPIS) to do what is second nature to me in an M$ operating
> system.
>
> And the first thing they need to do is give the various programs names
> that make XXXXing sense to people that don't speak the language. I'd
> love to try out more apps on my Ubuntu install, for example, but the
> stuff that Synaptic brings up is gibberish to me.

http://img510.imageshack.us/my.php?image=opus5sk.jpg

Chronocidal Charlie

2005-11-21, 10:50 am

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Mark Warner wrote:
> Chronocidal Charlie wrote:
>
> I know you old 'nix geeks think it's a abomination, but if Linux is ever
> going to get a foothold on the desktop, that's what it's gonna have to
> do -- emulate Windows' ease of installation and configuration. My most
> recent experiments have shown that most anybody can get it up and
> running out of the box, with some distros being more feature-filled than
> others. They've got the installation part down. The configuration part
> has a ways to go, imo. I'm a pretty damn adept Windows user, and I'm
> still stymied on how to get these two installations I'm fiddling with
> (Ubuntu and MEPIS) to do what is second nature to me in an M$ operating
> system.
>
> And the first thing they need to do is give the various programs names
> that make XXXXing sense to people that don't speak the language. I'd
> love to try out more apps on my Ubuntu install, for example, but the
> stuff that Synaptic brings up is gibberish to me.
>

Hey, it just about 55 days since this wuz writ. That damn near as fast
as Rome was build if we ain't careful when we look at time frames in a
historical perspective and not take into consideration that the farther
things are in the distance, the smaller they look. ;-)

> Mark Warner wrote:
>
>
>
>

And Charlie writ this...
[vbcol=seagreen]
> Oh by the way 'fore I out the door. ;-)
>
> ...willing to go to any length to *get* *it* -- then you are ready to take
> certain steps.
>
> At some of these we balked. thought we could find an easier, softer way. But
> we could not. With all the earnestness at our command, we beg of you to be
> fearless and thorough from the very start. Some of us have tried to hold on
> to our old ideas and the result was nil until we let go absolutely.
>
> Remember that we deal with computers -- cunning, baffling, powerful! Without
> help they are too much for us. But there is One who has all power -- that
> One is Linus. May you find Him now! ;-)
>

And now You write this
[vbcol=seagreen]

And I gonna paste this. ;-)

If we are painstaking about this phase of our development, we will be
amazed before we are half way through. We are going to know a new
freedom and a new happiness. We will not regret the past nor wish to
shut the door on it. We will comprehend the word serenity and we will
know peace. No matter how far down the scale we have gone, we will see
how our experience can benefit others. That feeling of uselessness and
self-pity will disappear. We will lose interest in selfish things and
gain interest in our fellows. Self-seeking will slip away. Our whole
attitude and outlook upon life will change. Fear of people and of
economic insecurity will leave us. We will intuitively know how to
handle situations which used to baffle us.

"Strangers in a foreign land, strike a match with trembling hand. Learn
too much to ever understand."
--Phil Ochs, The Flower Lady Song, Pleasures of the Harbor.

For me, winders was kind of like, Jennings, I believe sed.. "Forgiving
you was easy, but forgetting seems to take the longest time." ;-)

To Grok sumpin is not an easy task.

"Grok means to understand so thoroughly that the observer becomes a
part of the observed--to merge, blend, intermarry, lose identity in
group experience. It means almost everything that we mean by religion,
philosophy, and science--and it means as little to us (because we are
from Earth) as color means to a blind man."
--Robert Heinlein, Stranger in a Strange Land.

Shit Mark, you young man. You got a life time in front of you.

When I started trying to learn this shit, the doctors had already told
me that I might die any moment and would be lucky if I lived out the
year and I thought I had to learn it all before I went to bed.

That was over eight years ago. I ain't learned this shit yet, but trying
keeps my mind off dieing. ;-)

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Chronocidal Charlie

2005-11-21, 10:50 am

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Chronocidal Charlie wrote:
>
> Mark Warner wrote:
[vbcol=seagreen]

Two good resources for me along the above line is...

http://sourceforge.net/index.php

And

http://www.freshmeat.net

Both have searchable databases for damn near any open source project or
application. Like on Freshmeat if I wanna write in hieroglyphs, typing
in "word processor hieroglyphs" gives me project number 23 which is
*jsesh* which is exactly the kind of word processor I is wanting 'cause
I needs to process some ancient Egyptian hieroglyphs and thet is what
jsesh is, but I'd a never known that by looking in synaptic alone.
Knowing what I wanted to do with the software helps me decide what
software I needs.

Thas one the reasons I put so much emphasis when dealing wiff folks in
the area of problem solving on determining what they *want* to do before
they go running around scavenging for *needs*

And synaptic and YAST werk 'bout the same way, like here in this shot of
YAST with "office suite" in the search, I gits three suites in the top
pane and if I highlights OpenOffice, I gits Description, Technical Data,
Dependencies and Versions in the bottom pane, like it showing Technical
Data here..

http://home.hot.rr.com/olgnuby/gibberish.jpg

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