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| From KFWB 980:
***"Two Year Old Girl Latest Victim of SoCal Winter Storm
PALMDALE, Calif. (AP) 1.10.05, 8:40a -- Storm tragedy in Palmdale
early this morning.
A 2 year old girl was the latest victim of the winter storm that's
left at least eight others dead in Southern California over the
weekend.
L-A County sheriff lieutenant Don Ford says a car went around a
barricade and got stuck in swift water about 10 last night. Rescue
crews lifted a mother and her 10 year old and 16 year old children.
The mother was also holding the toddler in her arms, but the girl
slipped from her grasp as they were being lifted.
The child was found in a wash three hours later. She was taken to a
hospital and pronounced dead there.
The sheriff's department has referred the case to homicide
detectives."***
As well they bloody XXXXing should. WHAT possessed Mom to take her
kids around a barricade designed to keep the road from flooding in the
first place? Why do people do this stuff? I don't understand it.
~*~ I am incredibly silly, so I emphasize you. My tropical liaison won't improve before I say it ~*~
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| Alan B. Mac Farlane 2005-01-14, 7:07 pm |
| the woman has batter wife syndrome and lots of PTSD issues that make for
fragmentation and losing the emotional intelligence with the emotional
compass .. they lose the 'felt sense' that something is wrong here ... like
with the Swift Boat Veterans and Bush ... more COW blood for the Whore of
Babalon ... all these sick Americans have no emotional IQ and on the Hue
past Fallujah to the Armageddon ...
Red Staters just love killing our troops ... so does Bush ... he plays golf
and holds 40 million dollar parties while our troops are getting massacred.
All this could have been avoided with emotional recovery from PTSD vectors
in this womans childhood abuse history to kill her own daughter - it speaks
to her own childhood similarly being killed off.
What you fear is what you manifest -
What you hate is what you become ...
sumbuddie on da watchtower
in article k9t5u0p6hsp6f5vvj3segd03p2hbo7uvb7@4ax.com, Liz at
nexttogodly@heaven.net wrote on 1/10/05 1:38 PM:
> From KFWB 980:
>
> ***"Two Year Old Girl Latest Victim of SoCal Winter Storm
>
> PALMDALE, Calif. (AP) 1.10.05, 8:40a -- Storm tragedy in Palmdale
> early this morning.
>
> A 2 year old girl was the latest victim of the winter storm that's
> left at least eight others dead in Southern California over the
> weekend.
>
> L-A County sheriff lieutenant Don Ford says a car went around a
> barricade and got stuck in swift water about 10 last night. Rescue
> crews lifted a mother and her 10 year old and 16 year old children.
> The mother was also holding the toddler in her arms, but the girl
> slipped from her grasp as they were being lifted.
>
> The child was found in a wash three hours later. She was taken to a
> hospital and pronounced dead there.
>
> The sheriff's department has referred the case to homicide
> detectives."***
>
> As well they bloody XXXXing should. WHAT possessed Mom to take her
> kids around a barricade designed to keep the road from flooding in the
> first place? Why do people do this stuff? I don't understand it.
>
>
> ~*~ I am incredibly silly, so I emphasize you. My tropical liaison won't
> improve before I say it ~*~
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On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 01:25:04 +0100, Jezus <Jezus@lovesyou.tv> wrote:
>K
>
>Liz wrote:
>
>
~*~ I am incredibly silly, so I emphasize you. My tropical liaison won't improve before I say it ~*~
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| Liz wrote:
> ?
>
> On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 01:25:04 +0100, Jezus <Jezus@lovesyou.tv> wrote:
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>
>
>
> ~*~ I am incredibly silly, so I emphasize you. My tropical liaison won't improve before I say it ~*~
K= kill yourself.
Btw thanx for your energy :-)
--
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| Kaitlyn 2005-01-14, 10:06 pm |
| All hell. I misread what you asked below and went into a whole spew
that had nothing to do with what you asked. Sorry about that tempest.
Kaitlyn
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 12:11:30 -0800, Kaitlyn <kaitlyn@asarian.host.net>
wrote:
>On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:37:32 GMT, tempest <tempest@asarian-host.net>
>wrote:
>
>
>tempest, California has been having heavy flooding of roads around
>here. The woman came to a place in the road that was flooded with
>rushing water going across the road. (think if it as a raging river
>crossing over a street. Normally there would be no river there,
>except this happens when California gets over 15 inches of rain in two
>weeks. Our average YEARLY rainfall is only 12 inches.) There were
>blockades up which was a means of stopping anyone from crossing the
>road, because it was determined that it would not be safe. The woman
>decided to drive through it anyway. She drove around the blockades
>and into the rushing water that crossed the street. She had three
>children in the car at the time, she chose to do this. She endangered
>the lives of all of her children and herself at that point.
>
>I think that maybe the rescuers have some fault in this also. They
>rescued the two older children, and instead of finding a safe way to
>life the two year old child they told the mother to hold onto her and
>the child slipped out of the mothers arms while they were lifting both
>mother and child. I don't know I think they should have just figured
>out a better way to get that child up safely.
>
>It's sad, really sad, and I do feel for the mother in many ways, but
>she did endanger those children's' life's when she made the decision
>to cross a raging river.
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| On Wed, 12 Jan 2005 03:34:48 GMT, sloopy <sloopy@asarian-host.net>
wrote:
>X-No-Archive: Yes
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>Liz <nexttogodly@heaven.net > wrote:
>
>
>
>I know it angers you given all the things you do everyday to keep your
>kids safe, and I know it's hard to grasp the whys, yet, I can't help
>but feel sorrow when I imagine the grief this woman feels knowing she
>made the decision that resulted in the death of her child.....she will
>what if herself the rest of her life.....
Yes, she may. And I hope he does.
>
>
>peace,
>
>d
~*~ I am incredibly silly, so I emphasize you. My tropical liaison won't improve before I say it ~*~
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| lovetap 2005-01-15, 2:06 am |
| liz, didn't you give one of your kids ephedra because she was (is?) a
little overweight? if it had killed her, wouldn't you want people to
forgive you for that poor decision?
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| K
Liz wrote:
> From KFWB 980:
>
> ***"Two Year Old Girl Latest Victim of SoCal Winter Storm
>
> PALMDALE, Calif. (AP) 1.10.05, 8:40a -- Storm tragedy in Palmdale
> early this morning.
>
> A 2 year old girl was the latest victim of the winter storm that's
> left at least eight others dead in Southern California over the
> weekend.
>
> L-A County sheriff lieutenant Don Ford says a car went around a
> barricade and got stuck in swift water about 10 last night. Rescue
> crews lifted a mother and her 10 year old and 16 year old children.
> The mother was also holding the toddler in her arms, but the girl
> slipped from her grasp as they were being lifted.
>
> The child was found in a wash three hours later. She was taken to a
> hospital and pronounced dead there.
>
> The sheriff's department has referred the case to homicide
> detectives."***
>
> As well they bloody XXXXing should. WHAT possessed Mom to take her
> kids around a barricade designed to keep the road from flooding in the
> first place? Why do people do this stuff? I don't understand it.
>
>
> ~*~ I am incredibly silly, so I emphasize you. My tropical liaison won't improve before I say it ~*~
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| On Tue, 11 Jan 2005, Liz wrote:
> Why do you think she's a battered wife?
because she's on her way to being fried chicken?
-- astri
> On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 22:58:45 GMT, "Alan B. Mac Farlane"
> <alanb@sonic.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> ~*~ I am incredibly silly, so I emphasize you. My tropical liaison won't improve before I say it ~*~
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| On Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:20:00 -1000, astri <astri@lava.net> wrote:
>On Tue, 11 Jan 2005, Liz wrote:
>
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>because she's on her way to being fried chicken?
*snort*
[vbcol=seagreen]
>
>-- astri
>
~*~ I am incredibly silly, so I emphasize you. My tropical liaison won't improve before I say it ~*~
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| sloopy 2005-01-15, 7:07 am |
| X-No-Archive: Yes
Liz <nexttogodly@heaven.net > wrote:
>From KFWB 980:
>
>***"Two Year Old Girl Latest Victim of SoCal Winter Storm
>
>PALMDALE, Calif. (AP) 1.10.05, 8:40a -- Storm tragedy in Palmdale
>early this morning.
>
>A 2 year old girl was the latest victim of the winter storm that's
>left at least eight others dead in Southern California over the
>weekend.
>
>L-A County sheriff lieutenant Don Ford says a car went around a
>barricade and got stuck in swift water about 10 last night. Rescue
>crews lifted a mother and her 10 year old and 16 year old children.
>The mother was also holding the toddler in her arms, but the girl
>slipped from her grasp as they were being lifted.
>
>The child was found in a wash three hours later. She was taken to a
>hospital and pronounced dead there.
>
>The sheriff's department has referred the case to homicide
>detectives."***
>
>As well they bloody XXXXing should. WHAT possessed Mom to take her
>kids around a barricade designed to keep the road from flooding in the
>first place? Why do people do this stuff? I don't understand it.
but, can you imagine the absolute grief she must be feeling; knowing
that her first mistake, and the subsequent mistake led to her childs
death.......how incredibly awful.
d
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| On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 15:20:40 GMT, tempest <tempest@asarian-host.net>
wrote:
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>"Liz" <nexttogodly@heaven.net > wrote in message
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>
>I used to be just like you Liz, judging what I saw as "negligent" moms .....
>until it happened to me and I realised that accidents do happen .... I pray
>you never have to experience it.
This wasn't an accidemt, though. This woman saw qa barrier she wasn't
supposed to cross, an Arizona barrier designed to protect the street
from floodwater and she *chose* to drive her family in to that.
That's not an accident.[vbcol=seagreen]
>
>improve before I say it ~*~
~*~ I am incredibly silly, so I emphasize you. My tropical liaison won't improve before I say it ~*~
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| Ah.
I'll try to pencil that in for somewhere in '50.
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 04:02:22 +0100, Jezus <Jezus@lovesyou.tv> wrote:
>Liz wrote:
>K= kill yourself.
>Btw thanx for your energy :-)
~*~ I am incredibly silly, so I emphasize you. My tropical liaison won't improve before I say it ~*~
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| tempest 2005-01-15, 7:08 am |
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"Liz" <nexttogodly@heaven.net > wrote in message
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> On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 03:19:36 GMT, sloopy <sloopy@asarian-host.net>
> wrote:
>
> I just have no sympathy for people who put their children in deadly
> places and then lose one of them. I feel grief for the baby who fell
> in the water.
I used to be just like you Liz, judging what I saw as "negligent" moms .....
until it happened to me and I realised that accidents do happen .... I pray
you never have to experience it.
>
>
>
> ~*~ I am incredibly silly, so I emphasize you. My tropical liaison won't
improve before I say it ~*~
>
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| tempest 2005-01-15, 7:08 am |
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"sloopy" <sloopy@asarian-host.net> wrote in message
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> Liz <nexttogodly@heaven.net > wrote:
>
>
> but, can you imagine the absolute grief she must be feeling; knowing
> that her first mistake, and the subsequent mistake led to her childs
> death.......how incredibly awful.
she will live with it for the rest of her natural life and if she is
anything like me, will pray for death herself to escape the ongoing pain.
>
> d
>
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| Kaitlyn 2005-01-15, 7:08 am |
| On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:37:32 GMT, tempest <tempest@asarian-host.net>
wrote:
>
>Does it say why she drove there?
tempest, California has been having heavy flooding of roads around
here. The woman came to a place in the road that was flooded with
rushing water going across the road. (think if it as a raging river
crossing over a street. Normally there would be no river there,
except this happens when California gets over 15 inches of rain in two
weeks. Our average YEARLY rainfall is only 12 inches.) There were
blockades up which was a means of stopping anyone from crossing the
road, because it was determined that it would not be safe. The woman
decided to drive through it anyway. She drove around the blockades
and into the rushing water that crossed the street. She had three
children in the car at the time, she chose to do this. She endangered
the lives of all of her children and herself at that point.
I think that maybe the rescuers have some fault in this also. They
rescued the two older children, and instead of finding a safe way to
life the two year old child they told the mother to hold onto her and
the child slipped out of the mothers arms while they were lifting both
mother and child. I don't know I think they should have just figured
out a better way to get that child up safely.
It's sad, really sad, and I do feel for the mother in many ways, but
she did endanger those children's' life's when she made the decision
to cross a raging river.
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| Kaitlyn 2005-01-15, 7:08 am |
| On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:37:32 GMT, tempest <tempest@asarian-host.net>
wrote:
>
>Does it say why she drove there?
Because she wanted to get to the other side? Hell people here drive
through them all the time. My daughter and I got caught in the floods
ourselves this week. My daughter holding the baby, myself and two of
her kids had to walk through 2 feet of standing water to get home the
other day. If it had been running water we would have stayed in her
Van, which had a blown out tire and broken rim and waited out the
storm. We were on high ground, but sorounded by water on all sides.
The tow truck couldn't even get to us. When we first got to the place
we were stranded at it was raining, but the streets were fine, 30
minutes later it was a flood.
I explain it all much better on my journal if you care to read it.
http://www.twilightdawning.com
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| sloopy 2005-01-15, 7:08 am |
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Liz <nexttogodly@heaven.net > wrote:
>
>I just have no sympathy for people who put their children in deadly
>places and then lose one of them. I feel grief for the baby who fell
>in the water.
I know it angers you given all the things you do everyday to keep your
kids safe, and I know it's hard to grasp the whys, yet, I can't help
but feel sorrow when I imagine the grief this woman feels knowing she
made the decision that resulted in the death of her child.....she will
what if herself the rest of her life.....
peace,
d
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| On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 19:37:32 GMT, tempest <tempest@asarian-host.net>
wrote:
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>"Liz" <nexttogodly@heaven.net > wrote in message
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>
>the
>......
>pray
>
>Does it say why she drove there?
Not yet. Just that detectives are treating it like a homicide.
Tempest, before this gets hijacked and your grief is taken advantage
of, I don't know what happened with you and I have all the sympathy in
the world for you. I am not judging you. It had nothing to do with
you.
No, I have not lost a child that I have held in my arms. I don't ever
want to know what it feels like. I think about it alot, though. With
my oldest in particular. She's almost certainly going to need major
surgery and I think - did I do x right? Should I have done this or
that sooner? Should I not have done that? Did I fight the insurance
people as hard as I could? Is the day I waited to make an appointment
going to cause anything? What if something happens? How could I have
prevented it? What would I have missed, how did I fail?
I don't know how it is with you, but I know I would beat myself every
day, whether I could say it was my fault or not, if something happened
to one of my kids. No matter the circumstances, I would feel I had
failed them somehow, as though if only I had been/done/was something
more, it wouldn't have happened. I imagine it changes you in ways I
hope never to know anything about.
[vbcol=seagreen]
>
>won't
>improve before I say it ~*~
~*~ I am incredibly silly, so I emphasize you. My tropical liaison won't improve before I say it ~*~
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| You're a good girl. In the meantime be very carefull of our mutual enemy
(not gjl!). At the moment I am trying to locate him but he is hard to find.
Maybe you can still enjoy the free vibrator-lesson that I offered you
and become a lesbian? You could have done that years ago. Years before
that, you could have listend to the people who told you that I was good
for nothing. Stop trying to proove that everybody else is wrong. It will
make your life so much more comfortable.
I tell you secrets, give you friendly advise, give you free lessons and
free training. You're about ready for the task that I gave to you. Stop
wasting time with your obsession and start doing what I told you to do.
I'll let you spend some time in my aura when you're finished. You like
that feeling, don't you?
Good luck.
Liz wrote:
> Ah.
>
> I'll try to pencil that in for somewhere in '50.
>
> On Tue, 11 Jan 2005 04:02:22 +0100, Jezus <Jezus@lovesyou.tv> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> ~*~ I am incredibly silly, so I emphasize you. My tropical liaison won't improve before I say it ~*~
--
Jezus loves you. To bad that he is the only one.
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| You disturb me.
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 00:15:47 +0100, Jezus <Jezus@lovesyou.tv> wrote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
>You're a good girl. In the meantime be very carefull of our mutual enemy
>(not gjl!). At the moment I am trying to locate him but he is hard to find.
>
>Maybe you can still enjoy the free vibrator-lesson that I offered you
>and become a lesbian? You could have done that years ago. Years before
>that, you could have listend to the people who told you that I was good
>for nothing. Stop trying to proove that everybody else is wrong. It will
>make your life so much more comfortable.
>
>I tell you secrets, give you friendly advise, give you free lessons and
>free training. You're about ready for the task that I gave to you. Stop
>wasting time with your obsession and start doing what I told you to do.
>I'll let you spend some time in my aura when you're finished. You like
>that feeling, don't you?
>
>Good luck.
>
>
>
>Liz wrote:
~*~ I am incredibly silly, so I emphasize you. My tropical liaison won't improve before I say it ~*~
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| lovetap 2005-01-18, 7:07 pm |
| liz, didn't you give one of your kids ephedra because she was (is?) a
little overweight? if it had killed her, wouldn't you want people to
forgive you for that poor decision?
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| You disturb me.
On Mon, 17 Jan 2005 00:15:47 +0100, Jezus <Jezus@lovesyou.tv> wrote:
[vbcol=seagreen]
>You're a good girl. In the meantime be very carefull of our mutual enemy
>(not gjl!). At the moment I am trying to locate him but he is hard to find.
>
>Maybe you can still enjoy the free vibrator-lesson that I offered you
>and become a lesbian? You could have done that years ago. Years before
>that, you could have listend to the people who told you that I was good
>for nothing. Stop trying to proove that everybody else is wrong. It will
>make your life so much more comfortable.
>
>I tell you secrets, give you friendly advise, give you free lessons and
>free training. You're about ready for the task that I gave to you. Stop
>wasting time with your obsession and start doing what I told you to do.
>I'll let you spend some time in my aura when you're finished. You like
>that feeling, don't you?
>
>Good luck.
>
>
>
>Liz wrote:
~*~ I am incredibly silly, so I emphasize you. My tropical liaison won't improve before I say it ~*~
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