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Lurkangel

2004-08-19, 4:06 am

drr0cket@yahoo.com (Bodhisattvacat) wrote in message news:<4f2532f6.0408151007.1639d5dc@posting.google.com>...
> American feminists fail to strive to be their best, to have goodwill
> or
> good heart, or to cultivate inner or outer beauty. Most women around
> the world strive to be their best and thus become better people than
> American feminists. They therefore deserve to have better
> spokespeople.

>
> A beautiful, professionally successful Russian woman told me that she
> feels blessed to have been born a woman, and that American women who
> behave like men - as she said, women who want a penis - are abnormal.
> My mother, who is also both beautiful and professionally successful,
> has a sign on the fridge that says "Women who want to be equal to men
> lack ambition."

> It will be the Eastern European women that will call the bluff of the
> American feminists. Here are women who are feminine and beautiful even
> while they are competent, strong-willed, self-demanding and good at
> just about anything they do. Who show American men they don't need to
> settle for hateful harpies - and that hateful harpies do not represent
> womankind.

>
> These women demonstrate that American women who get obese, shrill,
> graceless, hateful and accusatory and demand respect without doing
> anything to earn it are simply idiots. These women have experienced
> worse conditions than just about any American feminist, and have
> regardless retained their beauty, femininity and goodness of heart. By
> comparison to them the American feminists are the lowest of the low
> and represent the weakest, the nastiest, the trash, in humanity - and
> thus have no claim whatever toward speaking for women and certainly
> not for them as women. These women show American feminists to be
> despicable - and show by example what a woman can be.
>
> Julia, who is French-American but is constantly asked if she is
> Russian, told me that it takes more strength to submit than to
> dominate. She has experienced far worse treatment in a 15-year
> marriage to a horrible man than any of the women who claim abuse
> against them as a reason for becoming obese or hateful of men. She has
> managed, in a feminazi-crazed social climate, to retain her
> tenderness,
> magnificence, kindness, physical strength and delicacy - and to still
> have a warm heart giving out love, a dedication to doing good, and a
> spirit producing artwork. She has been finally rewarded for her
> efforts with a life in which one man writes her a book of romantic
> poetry, while another buys her a Ferrari. Both of which are merited.

>
> The best women relish in their womanhood - in what a woman can be when
> she is not misled into imitating men or hating them. It is a beautiful
> gift and one that makes life beautiful both for the woman and for the
> people around her. It is a gift that takes far greater strength to
> maintain than shrillness, nastiness, cruelty, hatred and snideness. It
> is a demonstration of what women are capable of being when they strive
> to be their best - a celebration of strength, splendor, wisdom,
> elegance, goodwill and integrity that is the woman who strives to be
> her best.

Let me twist, if I may, and offer an outlook which I don't necessarily
agree with, but which makes as much sense given the nature of this
one.

For arguments sake, let us surmise that men were created to represent
all authority and power. Regardless of your religious bend or no, most
of nature fairly affirms that. Yet, and for whatever reasons, they've
failed miserably. In their affliction and weakness, women rose to the
challenge, not because they wanted to, but because they had to. Maybe
they even did want to, but if men had done their part at that power,
then women would not have been able to, so it's moot. Men then became
afraid and sought greatly to supress the woman. Women were caught in a
quandary - complete annihilation of the species as well as loss of
their newly-acquired personal power or adaptation. Evolution decreed
the latter, but because it is not an inherit part of a womans nature
to assume the responsibility and virtue of the man, but rather an
adapted trait, women have become excessively Yang and Yin deficient
and men versa-vice (which virtually all of the symptoms that you
describe demonstrate as imbalance).

Now we co-exist in a patriarchal society where men are weaker and
women more powerful. We spend hours poring over magazines on how to
increase our sexual attractiveness because men are confused. We think
if we exaggerate the obvious features, lips, breasts - then perhaps
they'll notice us again. Our society is as repressed as ever, but more
sexual (read-obsessed with it) then any other. Have you noticed how
chic bisexuality has become between women here in America, but how it
is not as fashionable between men? Another exaggeration in the form of
a man's ultimate fantasy and yet; Viagra sales have more than
quadrupled in the last year, and Janet Jackson's steel nipple is
considered obscene.

And we call that evolution from the days when cavemen just used to
plock a woman over the head, drag her into his cave and be done with
it already.

Or -

If women want a penis, perhaps it's because the ones being offered are
all so flaccid. Perhaps we are a bit shrill and grumpy at that.

>
> None of which qualities the American feminists of the last decade
> possess, and none of whom are therefore qualified to speak for women.

None of which qualities people as a whole possess, really. So let us
all be silent then. God knows, we expend a hell of a lot of brain
cells flapping our wingless stumps and squawking endlessly on nothing
at all. But we won't, and there's the rub. We'll talk it to death or
until the next bomb falls. And renders us all back to a homonid state,
in which case my ponytail awaits.

Lisbeth
The Oracle senses a headache coming on.

Jude & Sandra

2004-08-19, 4:06 am

"Lurkangel" <illaqueate@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> drr0cket@yahoo.com (Bodhisattvacat) wrote in message
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> Let me twist, if I may, and offer an outlook which I don't necessarily
> agree with, but which makes as much sense given the nature of this
> one.
>
> For arguments sake, let us surmise that men were created to represent
> all authority and power. Regardless of your religious bend or no, most
> of nature fairly affirms that. Yet, and for whatever reasons, they've
> failed miserably. In their affliction and weakness, women rose to the
> challenge, not because they wanted to, but because they had to. Maybe
> they even did want to, but if men had done their part at that power,
> then women would not have been able to, so it's moot. Men then became
> afraid and sought greatly to supress the woman. Women were caught in a
> quandary - complete annihilation of the species as well as loss of
> their newly-acquired personal power or adaptation. Evolution decreed
> the latter, but because it is not an inherit part of a womans nature
> to assume the responsibility and virtue of the man, but rather an
> adapted trait, women have become excessively Yang and Yin deficient
> and men versa-vice (which virtually all of the symptoms that you
> describe demonstrate as imbalance).

JUST because in nature, the larger ANIMAL (whether it's male or female or
two males or two females competing for something) usually gets the food
first and throw their weight around and make their will the law of the
jungle, what does THAT have to do with us humans to justify ANYTHING for us?

Why do people look to the ANIMAL kingdom to understand HUMAN nature better?
Are we just another type of animal? In that case, let's all shut up and go
home and just forget civilization and return to the jungle. Let's get rid
of ANY law that protects the weak, the poor, the less fortunate, the sick,
etc. After all, we're just ALL animals with a larger brain and it's
survival of the physically stronger and fittest.

> Now we co-exist in a patriarchal society where men are weaker and
> women more powerful. We spend hours poring over magazines on how to
> increase our sexual attractiveness because men are confused. We think
> if we exaggerate the obvious features, lips, breasts - then perhaps
> they'll notice us again. Our society is as repressed as ever, but more
> sexual (read-obsessed with it) then any other. Have you noticed how
> chic bisexuality has become between women here in America, but how it
> is not as fashionable between men? Another exaggeration in the form of
> a man's ultimate fantasy and yet; Viagra sales have more than
> quadrupled in the last year, and Janet Jackson's steel nipple is
> considered obscene.
>
> And we call that evolution from the days when cavemen just used to
> plock a woman over the head, drag her into his cave and be done with
> it already.
>
> Or -
>
> If women want a penis, perhaps it's because the ones being offered are
> all so flaccid. Perhaps we are a bit shrill and grumpy at that.
>
>
> None of which qualities people as a whole possess, really. So let us
> all be silent then. God knows, we expend a hell of a lot of brain
> cells flapping our wingless stumps and squawking endlessly on nothing
> at all. But we won't, and there's the rub. We'll talk it to death or
> until the next bomb falls. And renders us all back to a homonid state,
> in which case my ponytail awaits.
>
> Lisbeth
> The Oracle senses a headache coming on.

Lurkangel

2004-08-20, 2:06 am

"Jude & Sandra" <Judsan@somewhere.usa> wrote in message news:<Hx6Uc.29$6y1.21@bignews1.bellsouth.net>...
> "Lurkangel" <illaqueate@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:60dfff5c.0408160947.3b38844e@posting.google.com...
> news:<4f2532f6.0408151007.1639d5dc@posting.google.com>...

::Trims and fluffs::

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> JUST because in nature, the larger ANIMAL (whether it's male or female or
> two males or two females competing for something) usually gets the food
> first and throw their weight around and make their will the law of the
> jungle, what does THAT have to do with us humans to justify ANYTHING for us?

Well, I was GOING to use the PARADIGM of ANGELS, but just look at how
far some of them have fallen..

> In that case, let's all shut up and go
> home and just forget civilization and return to the jungle. Let's get rid
> of ANY law that protects the weak, the poor, the less fortunate, the sick,
> etc. After all, we're just ALL animals with a larger brain and it's
> survival of the physically stronger and fittest.

Your logic is just silly, but I'm hungry, so I'll bite: My rebuttal
wasn't about some corporeal law, it's about the manifestation of
behaviour as the direct result of affliction.

The problem with your implication is..well, there are so many. At
least one is the fact that LAW cannot produce LOVE, only adherence to
it. It's a bandaid solution to your LETHAL and OOZING wound.

Another is that it demonstrates our very real NATURE to forever choose
LAW over any kind of LIFE. Coming up with laws to protect the weak,
the poor and the less fortunate completely eviscerates the reason that
we need them in the first place.

With you, however, on the 'Lets all shut up and go home.'

Now. If only I could find out where that is.

Captain!

2004-08-21, 11:09 am

"Lurkangel" <illaqueate@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> drr0cket@yahoo.com (Bodhisattvacat) wrote in message
news:<4f2532f6.0408151007.1639d5dc@posting.google.com>...
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> Let me twist, if I may, and offer an outlook which I don't necessarily
> agree with, but which makes as much sense given the nature of this
> one.
>
> For arguments sake, let us surmise that men were created to represent
> all authority and power. Regardless of your religious bend or no, most
> of nature fairly affirms that. Yet, and for whatever reasons, they've
> failed miserably. In their affliction and weakness, women rose to the
> challenge, not because they wanted to, but because they had to. Maybe
> they even did want to, but if men had done their part at that power,
> then women would not have been able to, so it's moot. Men then became
> afraid and sought greatly to supress the woman. Women were caught in a
> quandary - complete annihilation of the species as well as loss of
> their newly-acquired personal power or adaptation. Evolution decreed
> the latter, but because it is not an inherit part of a womans nature
> to assume the responsibility and virtue of the man, but rather an
> adapted trait, women have become excessively Yang and Yin deficient
> and men versa-vice (which virtually all of the symptoms that you
> describe demonstrate as imbalance).
>
> Now we co-exist in a patriarchal society where men are weaker and
> women more powerful. We spend hours poring over magazines on how to
> increase our sexual attractiveness because men are confused. We think
> if we exaggerate the obvious features, lips, breasts - then perhaps
> they'll notice us again. Our society is as repressed as ever, but more
> sexual (read-obsessed with it) then any other. Have you noticed how
> chic bisexuality has become between women here in America, but how it
> is not as fashionable between men? Another exaggeration in the form of
> a man's ultimate fantasy and yet; Viagra sales have more than
> quadrupled in the last year, and Janet Jackson's steel nipple is
> considered obscene.
>
> And we call that evolution from the days when cavemen just used to
> plock a woman over the head, drag her into his cave and be done with
> it already.
>
> Or -
>
> If women want a penis, perhaps it's because the ones being offered are
> all so flaccid. Perhaps we are a bit shrill and grumpy at that.
>
>
> None of which qualities people as a whole possess, really. So let us
> all be silent then. God knows, we expend a hell of a lot of brain
> cells flapping our wingless stumps and squawking endlessly on nothing
> at all. But we won't, and there's the rub. We'll talk it to death or
> until the next bomb falls. And renders us all back to a homonid state,
> in which case my ponytail awaits.
>
> Lisbeth
> The Oracle senses a headache coming on.

an interesting take on things.
women are confused too though. they don't seem to ever know what they want
when it comes to men. they will date one type of guy, get bored of him, and
then go find the opposite type of guy thinking that he might be better. most
men know what they like in a woman by the time they reach adulthood.

Lurkangel

2004-08-25, 11:16 am