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Buxus sempervirens data
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| GMCarter 2006-12-06, 9:26 pm |
| On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 10:56:09 -0600, " Death" <Death@yourdoor.net>
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>No problem, neither does peanut butter.
There are no randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled studies of
peanut butter in HIV infection.
There is one for SPV-30.
George M. Carter
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Durant J, Chantre Ph, Gonzalez G et al: Efficacy and safety of Buxus
sempervirens L. preparations (SPV30) in HIV-infected asymptomatic
patients: a multicentre, randomized, double blind, placebo-controlled
trial. Phytomedicine 1998; 5(1):1-10.
Described best here:
www.catie.ca/pdf/supple-e/spv30.pdf
They note: "Those taking SPV30 were less likely to develop symptoms of
AIDS or AIDS-related illnesses. The results were better for people
taking the low dose of 990 milligrams of SPV30 per day than for those
taking 1,980 mg.
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"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> There are no randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled studies of
> peanut butter in HIV infection.
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Who told you that?
Go to any grocery, walk down the isle blind-folded.
Pick out any jar of peanut butter at random. Take it to the counter
and pay for it. You just got your-self one jar of placebo
treatment.
Now go to another grocery store and do the same thing.
A (double) blind placebo-controlled study.
.....and it May be a treatment if eaten in recommended dosages.
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| GMCarter 2006-12-06, 9:26 pm |
| On Tue, 21 Nov 2006 20:37:39 -0600, " Death" <Death@yourdoor.net>
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>Who told you that?
Please provide the data then to show that there have been such
studies!
Pity your satire is so lame.
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"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Please provide the data then to show that there have been such
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Just eat the peanut butter....it MAY be a treatment, your words.
Why argue with yourself?
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| GMCarter 2006-12-06, 9:26 pm |
| On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 10:46:14 -0600, " Death" <Death@yourdoor.net>
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>Just eat the peanut butter....it MAY be a treatment, your words.
>Why argue with yourself?
No, that was your Rovian twist to my words. The basis for my saying
that Buxus sempervirens may be a useful treatment for HIV infection is
based on one clinical treatment. The "may" is a caveat since only that
one study was conducted.
Some people I know still swear by it. Usually, though, as part of a
regimen including antioxidants and other botanicals that have
similarly shown some modest efficacy against HIV.
Peanut butter has no data on it in any way, shape or form to suggest
that it MAY be a treatment for HIV.
That you are too obtuse to understand the distinction is completely
within your character.
George M .Carter
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"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net>
> " Death" <Death@yourdoor.net>
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> No, that was your Rovian twist to my words.
Really!
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"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> No, that was your Rovian twist to my words. The basis for my saying
> that Buxus sempervirens may be a useful treatment for HIV infection is
> based on one clinical treatment.
That's a good point to bring up days later. Nothing like an after-excuse,
errrrr after-thought.
I saw no clinical test result in the original post, heck I don't see one now.
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"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> No, that was your Rovian twist to my words. The basis for my saying
> that Buxus sempervirens may be a useful treatment for HIV infection is
> based on one clinical treatment. The "may" is a caveat since only that
> one study was conducted.
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> Some people I know still swear by it.
I know people who swear by peanut butter.
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"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Some people I know still swear by it. Usually, though, as part of a
> regimen including antioxidants and other botanicals that have
> similarly shown some modest efficacy against HIV.
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Some people I know still swear by {peanut butter}. Usually, though, as part of a
regimen including antioxidants and other botanicals that have
similarly shown some modest efficacy against HIV.
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" Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> wrote in message
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> "GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Who told you that?
> Go to any grocery, walk down the isle blind-folded.
> Pick out any jar of peanut butter at random. Take it to the counter
> and pay for it. You just got your-self one jar of placebo
> treatment.
A placebo "treatment" is NOT a study, although Carter
desperately wants ... no NEEDS it to be.
LOL!
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"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 22 Nov 2006 10:46:14 -0600, " Death" <Death@yourdoor.net>
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> No, that was your Rovian twist to my words.
Paranoid - Carl Rove is behind every tree.
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"Life" <Life@life.com> wrote in message
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> " Death" <Death@yourdoor.net> wrote in message
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> A placebo "treatment" is NOT a study, although Carter
> desperately wants ... no NEEDS it to be.
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> LOL!
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That was the point. If you are going to use a placebo, use peanut butter.
It is healthy food and has no side-effects.
Carter even said my example was silly. Well......Dah, no shit.
It was meant to be an illustration of ............MAY be a treatment.
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