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HIV + Longevity + Tests in 1995
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| Hooliganz 2006-11-19, 4:23 pm |
| If a man were exposed to the virus in 1988 via anal sex (receiving)
from an infected partner, would it be possible for 18 years to pass
before AIDS manifested? I understand that a greater likelihood is
about 10 years w/o detection, but that may be inaccurate, too.
One more: how "accurate" were HIV tests in 1995 in detecting the
presence of the virus? Difference in men or women?
Thanks.
Much love to you and yours --
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| GMCarter 2006-11-19, 4:23 pm |
| On 16 Nov 2006 18:01:09 -0800, "Hooliganz" <brettharlow123@gmail.com>
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>If a man were exposed to the virus in 1988 via anal sex (receiving)
>from an infected partner, would it be possible for 18 years to pass
>before AIDS manifested? I understand that a greater likelihood is
>about 10 years w/o detection, but that may be inaccurate, too.
Yes, it's possible. Some people are long term non- or very slow
progressors.
>One more: how "accurate" were HIV tests in 1995 in detecting the
>presence of the virus? Difference in men or women?
Extremely, especially compared to other diagnostic techniques for
other infections. Especially in places like Europe, the US, Australia,
Japan and many countries in Asia and Africa (not all).
George M. Carter
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| monty1945@lycos.com 2006-11-19, 4:23 pm |
| Nobody has ever found virus particles that fit the textbook description
of "HIV." You would do better to fear ghosts than this "virus,"
because of the highly toxic drugs prescribed to people who are healthy,
and would remain so if they only knew to avoid stressors, such as the
PGE2 in human semen.
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| GMCarter 2006-11-19, 4:23 pm |
| On 17 Nov 2006 19:55:34 -0800, monty1945@lycos.com wrote:
>Nobody has ever found virus particles that fit the textbook description
>of "HIV."
Again, an incorrect and unsupported statement. Even Denialist Duesberg
knows that HIV exists. He just doesn't get that it causes AIDS.
I'm always amazed at how so many denialists will waffle about at their
convenience to say HIV doesn't cause AIDS cause Duesberg said so then
say it doesn't exist (often citing the well and thoroughly refuted
armchair speculators in Perth).
Cognitive dissonance reigns supreme in the denialist mind!
George M. Carter
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| monty1945@lycos.com 2006-11-19, 4:23 pm |
| Mr. Carter:
If you believe in the existence of "HIV," then all I ask is for you to
provide one scientific paper in which the researchers used an electron
microscope to show abundant, infectious particles in someone said to be
infected with "HIV" or dying of "AIDS." Those particles must fit the
textbook description of "HIV" in terms of size and shape. Duesberg
accepts the markers, and so has discredited himself on this issue,
because one can generate these markers in the absence of a "retroviral
infection," as the Perth Group and other point out.
Would you care to explain to readers why you don't feel it would be a
good idea at this point, more than 20 years after the supposed
beginning of the "AIDS epidemic," for such an experimental endeavor not
to be done? It would silence those you call "denialists" once and for
all, and it would allow doctors to claim that the toxic drugs being
prescribed may actually be preventing the supposed damage done by the
"retrovirus." There is nothing to lose and much to gain. Until this
is done, those like myself, who understand the rigorous standards of
the scientific method, will continue to point out that "HIV/AIDS"
appears to be nothing more than a biomedical mirage.
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"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> On 16 Nov 2006 18:01:09 -0800, "Hooliganz" <brettharlow123@gmail.com>
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> Yes, it's possible. Some people are long term non- or very slow
> progressors.
More to the point - the definition of "non progressor" includes one
disturbing characteristic: the non-use of the purported "antivirals"...
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| GMCarter 2006-11-19, 4:23 pm |
| On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 21:23:40 -0500, "Life" <Life@life.com> wrote:
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>"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>More to the point - the definition of "non progressor" includes one
>disturbing characteristic: the non-use of the purported "antivirals"...
Well, fred, dear, you've made this idiot claim in the past repeatedly.
Why would someone who is not progressing want to use ARV?
And the implicit correlate is not accurate--that is, that a person
with progressing HIV disease should never use ARV. Is that what you
claim?
George M. Carter
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"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 18 Nov 2006 21:23:40 -0500, "Life" <Life@life.com> wrote:
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> Well, fred, dear, you've made this idiot claim in the past repeatedly.
I am Life. The "idiot claim" has been well documented in the medical
literature - sorry you haven't been bright enough to glean such facts.
> Why would someone who is not progressing want to use ARV?
Geee.... of all people to ask that question?
Can you say "fear", "hype" or claims of "life-saving drugs"?
I think you have!
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| GMCarter 2006-12-06, 9:26 pm |
| On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 23:04:11 -0500, "Life" <Life@life.com> wrote:
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>I am Life.
LOL....as much as "death" is death.
>The "idiot claim" has been well documented in the medical
>literature - sorry you haven't been bright enough to glean such facts.
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>Geee.... of all people to ask that question?
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>Can you say "fear", "hype" or claims of "life-saving drugs"?
I see you avoided the other questions and comments.
Taken a bath in DNCB yet?
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"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 19 Nov 2006 23:04:11 -0500, "Life" <Life@life.com> wrote:
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> I see you avoided the other questions and comments.
Not at all - the question answered itself - and nobody knows that
better than George Mary Carter and his ACT UP New York
paid promos that pushed drugs and other poisons on HIV-infected
people who weren't sick ... yet.
> Taken a bath in DNCB yet?
Ah yes, the DNCB diversion - didn't take Carter long, but any
casual search of Google groups reveals a George Carter still tortured
by the truth-tellers of ACT UP San Francisco, be it FShaw or
David Pasquarelli.
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"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> On 17 Nov 2006 19:55:34 -0800, monty1945@lycos.com wrote:
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> Cognitive dissonance reigns supreme in the denialist mind!
Gee, George Mary - the history of this newsgroup proves
that YOU are a leader of the denialist movement on this
newsgroup - that is, the denial of truth in the promotion
of your seemingly endless HIV treatment scams.
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| GMCarter 2006-12-06, 9:26 pm |
| On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 15:28:12 -0500, "Life" <Life@life.com> wrote:
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>"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>Gee, George Mary - the history of this newsgroup proves
>that YOU are a leader of the denialist movement on this
>newsgroup - that is, the denial of truth in the promotion
>of your seemingly endless HIV treatment scams.
More lies, Fred. Have you taken a bath in DNCB yet?
You're the one who was claiming CURES and that it was the ONLY thing
to use.
But then, Rovian tactics are like that. They rely on telling horrible,
smearing lies over and over, even while the "j'accuse" finger is
pointing right back at you as you are a liar and a hypocrite.
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| GMCarter 2006-12-06, 9:26 pm |
| On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 15:25:18 -0500, "Life" <Life@life.com> wrote:
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>"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
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>Not at all - the question answered itself - and nobody knows that
>better than George Mary Carter and his ACT UP New York
>paid promos that pushed drugs and other poisons on HIV-infected
>people who weren't sick ... yet.
What paid promos? What drugs? What poisons?
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>Ah yes, the DNCB diversion - didn't take Carter long, but any
>casual search of Google groups reveals a George Carter still tortured
>by the truth-tellers of ACT UP San Francisco, be it FShaw or
>David Pasquarelli.
LOL. Truth? What truth, Fred?
Wow. You've lived all these years and you have learned nothing. Gotten
nowhere.
How many days of your life do you have left?
You're going to fill them with hate?
It's so funny you, a homosexual, get along so well with "death"
monkey-puppet, who hates gay men.
Your bigotry and hate binds you.
Wedding bells?
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"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Wow. You've lived all these years and you have learned nothing. Gotten
> nowhere.
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> How many days of your life do you have left?
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> You're going to fill them with hate?
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> It's so funny you, a homosexual, get along so well with "death"
> monkey-puppet, who hates gay men.
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> Your bigotry and hate binds you.
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You never did repost any statement I made that said I hated faggots
after saying that I did 3 times now.
You never did provide just one (1) sock that you claim I use after
says so, dozens of times.
You problem is self-inflicted ignorance. I say nigger and faggot and no one
becomes infected with hiv/aids. Life goes on just as
it would have had I said homosexual.
My (saying) what you (do) is not causing anyone to die.
I wish that your actions were as honest and harmless as
the words I use.
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"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 15:28:12 -0500, "Life" <Life@life.com> wrote:
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> More lies, Fred. Have you taken a bath in DNCB yet?
The only lie here is in your insistence that I am your nemesis
"FShaw".
As to DNCB - isn't it interesting how that is your only refuge from
the storm of treatment scams and lies which have implicated you
in the likely murder of thousands of your fellow, gay men?
How the XXXX can you live with yourself?
Life
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"GMCarter" <fiar@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 20 Nov 2006 15:25:18 -0500, "Life" <Life@life.com> wrote:
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> What paid promos? What drugs? What poisons?
After admitting that you have taken cash and perks from slime like
Arkopharma France or your own financial interests in scum such
as DAAIR, how dare you challenge that fact!
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> LOL. Truth? What truth, Fred?
Fred? Not. The truth? Self-evident!
> It's so funny you, a homosexual, get along so well with "death"
> monkey-puppet, who hates gay men.
Isn't it interesting how fags think every other man is also a fag?
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"Life" <Life@life.com> wrote in message
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> Isn't it interesting how fags think every other man is also a fag?
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The faggots know how nasty that insult is, they live it.
As I have pointed out to Carter ( if that is his real name)
I have never called him a white heterosexual man.
Where is the insult in that!?
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