| Brian Mailman 2005-10-27, 5:51 pm |
| No reply... OK, I guess that's an hour or so of life I'll never get back =
trying to compose a cogent response.
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Brian Mailman wrote:
> Fondoo wrote:
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> Sure, it's a logical progression. Someone brings in an alternative=20
> therapy. Some doctors try it, persuade others. Some get interested=20
> enough to do a study and that shows it works. Others pick it up, and=20
> voila... it's no longer 'alternative."
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> Kaiser Permanente San Francisco, to my understanding, now has=20
> acupuncture provided for those that want it. Their commercials here=20
> feature a bowl of blueberries and "we're pro-anti-oxidant." They show =
> an old woman having a merry moment and the voiceover is "we believe=20
> laughter is the best medicine" as well as "fruit makes a wonderful=20
> dessert." If that's not "holistic," then what is?
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> On a personal note, my own primary--who I will note here is ALSO the=20
> head of Kaiser Research (SF) so you'd think he of all people would be=20
> into 'western' medicine completely--has recommended I take fish oil and=
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> folic acid as cardiac protectives, as well as niacin to lower my=20
> cholesterol (which I can't do any more as a pre-diabetic). He's also=20
> recommended a few glasses of red wine a week also (which I can't do=20
> because the sulfites give me headaches).
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> I was just dealing with a diabetic ulcer on my foot for the past few=20
> months, and at one point it got infected with one of those=20
> antibiotic-resistant staph thingums (and I'm allergic to MANY meds=20
> anyway) so the only way to treat it has been considered to be an IV med=
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> that's rather challenging to the kidneys. The podiatrist I was seeing =
> for this recommended instead that I soak it in a hot=20
> water-and-bleach-and-epsom-salt solution twice a day, followed with a=20
> vinegar compress. I had a discussion with him that if THAT hadn't=20
> worked to clear the infection, he would have gone on to recommend=20
> binding the wound with maggots to clear out the dead tissue and=20
> infection as long as wasn't spreading to the bone.
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> It comes back to "find a doctor YOU trust" not that "all doctors can't =
> be trusted."
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> Again, 'pharma' business has an overlap, but isn't, 'pharma' medicine=20
> itself. I think anyone would rather (if it was necessary) take 1 small=
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> pill of dapsone 3x a week instead of moving to Texas and finding some=20
> armadillos to french-kiss for their spit (and yes, that's where they ge=
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> it).
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> Then you need to demonstrate the connections in a concrete fashion--not=
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> to draw inferences and then act as if the inferences are substantive,=20
> ok? Otherwise, it's only black helicopters. It's why so many people i=
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> the US still believe Saddam Hussein had something to do with 9/11 and=20
> actually possessed nuclear weapons (as an example of what I'm talking=20
> about, the process, I'm not wanting to discuss that *particular*).
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> NO ONE here says the ARVs are *the* solution. Remember, when you asked=
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> the general "should I go on them" I did NOT answer "yes, of course"=20
> automatically? And I gave you another course to think about/explore if=
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> they were recommended? (i.e., ask for 'resistance testing')? And if yo=
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> can't get a second opinion you trust, to come here and ask one of the=20
> 'orthodox' you might trust a *little* bit with your numbers and get a=20
> link to a document?
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> This is an unmoderated newsgroup. If you're reading from one of those =
> $(*#((*# kludgy web board interfaces that has someone 'moderating' get =
> yourself a real news reader.
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> B/
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