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Author Re: a non-believer in HIV as the cause of AIDS got closer to dyi
Chris Noble

2005-10-24, 12:55 am


Fondoo wrote:
> If they could add hiv to a test tube full of T-Cells and watch those
> cells become infected and die it could be just that simple.
> It aint that simple...


It is that simple.

There are many papers showing just this.

Here is one example.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/...792&query_hl=11

A molecular clone of HTLV-III with biological activity. Fisher AG,
Collalti E, Ratner L, Gallo RC, Wong-Staal F. Nature. 1985 Jul
18-24;316(6025):262-5.

I choose this paper intentionally because Duesberg cites it as evidence
that HIV exists.

http://www.duesberg.com/papers/continu1.html

"In conclusion: HIV has been isolated by the most rigorous method
science has to offer. An infectious DNA of 9.15 kilo bases (kb) has
been cloned from the cells of HIV-antibody-positive persons, that -upon
transfection- induces the synthesis of an unique retrovirus. This DNA
"isolates" HIV from all cellular molecules, even from viral proteins
and RNA. Having cloned infectious DNA of HIV is as much isolation of
HIV as one can possibly get, it is like isolating the fifth symphony
from an orchestra hall by recording it on a CD. The retrovirus encoded
by this infectious DNA reacts with the same antibodies that crossreact
with Montagnier"s global HIV standard, produced by immortal cell lines
in many labs and companies around the world for the HIV-test. This
confirms the existence of the retrovirus HIV."

What Duesberg does not mention is that this molecular clone was
cytopathic.

Add it to T-cells and they are infected and die

And they used controls!

Chris Noble

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