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| Puddin' Man 2004-08-29, 10:06 pm |
| Re: Hi Blood Pressure
I figger numerous folks on this list have fought the "Hi Blood
Pressure Wars".
I am 57 yrs, 5'6", 136 lbs. My cholesterol was very low (160 or
less) when checked maybe a year ago. Until about 2 years ago,
I consistently got BP readings like 123/75.
Now I'm getting 157-177 / 107-113.
I hid the salt shakers and started taking garlic (1k mg, 3 times
a day) about a week ago. Just got some Potassium Gluconate 99 mg:
guess I'll take 1-3 of them per day. None of this has much helped
so far.
Any body know of other tricks with diet/supplements (save
fasting)?
How long should I fiddle diet/supplements with 160/110-type
readings?
I fear if I have to enlist my primary care doc to help, the
following will transpire:
1.) Doc prescribes bleeding-edge drug costing an eyeball and
a testicle. Doc collects office visit fee.
2.) Patient returns for new script, complains of hi pressure
and/or side effects. Doc prescribes something else,
collects office visit fees.
3.) Repeat 2.) ad nauseum.
Can anyone suggest reasonably priced BP med(s) appropriate
for such a situation? How does one handle docs who "Dwell
In The Domain Of The Mega-Pharmaceutical Companies", writing
for meds that not even the insurance companies wanna pay for?
Thanx,
Puddin'
"The doctors, to a material extent, serve themselves (and not
their patients)!"
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| Puddin' Man 2004-09-06, 4:06 am |
| On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 21:42:27 GMT, Renegade5@Earth.com (Renegade5)
wrote:
>DO THIS:
>=======
> exercise, quit smoking, drink in moderation, maintain your ideal
>weight
>
>
>EAT THIS:
>=========
>
>BREAKFAST: a bowl of oatmeal or shreddies, a piece of high-fibre toast
>with peanut butter, and a cup of tropicana extra-pulp (grovestand)
>Orange Juice. Handful of blueberries, strawberries, raspberries,
>sliced bananas, rasins or similar. Add canadian bacon if still
>hungry.
>
>SNACK: eat a handful of nuts each day
>
>LUNCH: Fried Omega Pro egg(s) (these are eggs with Omega3 content).
>Fry in olive oil. Eat as a sandwhich using high-fibre bread/toast
>(all-bran has a good bread with 9g of fibre per serving). Drink milk
>- organic, 2%.
>
>SNACK: apple, orange, or grapes, another small handful of nuts if your
>weight allows
>
>SUPPER: Meat of your choice (steak, chicken, ham, fish, etc.),
>stone-ground whole-wheat roll, veggies/salad, glass of red wine.
>
>DESSERT: whatever you want (modest portion)
>
>SNACK: oatmeal chocolate-chip/rasin cookie, glass of OJ.
>
>*** However, with a reading of 157-177 you really do need to get to
>the doctor.
I got down to 148/98 yesterday. Maybe I'll live to make it to the'
doc visit Tue. :-)
>P.S. this is basically how I eat (+/- pizza) on most days. BP
>105-110, cholesterol almost off the (bottom) of the chart.
Congrats.
Dunno if I could eat like that, might have to try it before
it's all over.
Much thanks,
Puddin'
>
>On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 20:17:50 GMT, Pudding_Man@mail.com (Puddin' Man)
>wrote:
>
>
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| Puddin' Man 2004-09-08, 7:06 pm |
| On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 21:42:27 GMT, Renegade5@Earth.com (Renegade5)
wrote:
>DO THIS:
>=======
> exercise, quit smoking, drink in moderation, maintain your ideal
>weight
>
>
>EAT THIS:
>=========
>
>BREAKFAST: a bowl of oatmeal or shreddies, a piece of high-fibre toast
>with peanut butter, and a cup of tropicana extra-pulp (grovestand)
>Orange Juice. Handful of blueberries, strawberries, raspberries,
>sliced bananas, rasins or similar. Add canadian bacon if still
>hungry.
>
>SNACK: eat a handful of nuts each day
>
>LUNCH: Fried Omega Pro egg(s) (these are eggs with Omega3 content).
>Fry in olive oil. Eat as a sandwhich using high-fibre bread/toast
>(all-bran has a good bread with 9g of fibre per serving). Drink milk
>- organic, 2%.
>
>SNACK: apple, orange, or grapes, another small handful of nuts if your
>weight allows
>
>SUPPER: Meat of your choice (steak, chicken, ham, fish, etc.),
>stone-ground whole-wheat roll, veggies/salad, glass of red wine.
>
>DESSERT: whatever you want (modest portion)
>
>SNACK: oatmeal chocolate-chip/rasin cookie, glass of OJ.
>
>*** However, with a reading of 157-177 you really do need to get to
>the doctor.
I got down to 148/98 yesterday. Maybe I'll live to make it to the'
doc visit Tue. :-)
>P.S. this is basically how I eat (+/- pizza) on most days. BP
>105-110, cholesterol almost off the (bottom) of the chart.
Congrats.
Dunno if I could eat like that, might have to try it before
it's all over.
Much thanks,
Puddin'
>
>On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 20:17:50 GMT, Pudding_Man@mail.com (Puddin' Man)
>wrote:
>
>
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| Puddin' Man 2004-09-11, 2:06 am |
| On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 21:42:27 GMT, Renegade5@Earth.com (Renegade5)
wrote:
>DO THIS:
>=======
> exercise, quit smoking, drink in moderation, maintain your ideal
>weight
>
>
>EAT THIS:
>=========
>
>BREAKFAST: a bowl of oatmeal or shreddies, a piece of high-fibre toast
>with peanut butter, and a cup of tropicana extra-pulp (grovestand)
>Orange Juice. Handful of blueberries, strawberries, raspberries,
>sliced bananas, rasins or similar. Add canadian bacon if still
>hungry.
>
>SNACK: eat a handful of nuts each day
>
>LUNCH: Fried Omega Pro egg(s) (these are eggs with Omega3 content).
>Fry in olive oil. Eat as a sandwhich using high-fibre bread/toast
>(all-bran has a good bread with 9g of fibre per serving). Drink milk
>- organic, 2%.
>
>SNACK: apple, orange, or grapes, another small handful of nuts if your
>weight allows
>
>SUPPER: Meat of your choice (steak, chicken, ham, fish, etc.),
>stone-ground whole-wheat roll, veggies/salad, glass of red wine.
>
>DESSERT: whatever you want (modest portion)
>
>SNACK: oatmeal chocolate-chip/rasin cookie, glass of OJ.
>
>*** However, with a reading of 157-177 you really do need to get to
>the doctor.
I got down to 148/98 yesterday. Maybe I'll live to make it to the'
doc visit Tue. :-)
>P.S. this is basically how I eat (+/- pizza) on most days. BP
>105-110, cholesterol almost off the (bottom) of the chart.
Congrats.
Dunno if I could eat like that, might have to try it before
it's all over.
Much thanks,
Puddin'
>
>On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 20:17:50 GMT, Pudding_Man@mail.com (Puddin' Man)
>wrote:
>
>
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| ImmunoQuest 2004-09-16, 11:06 am |
| There is news out there that the older medications, namely the diuretics.
They work just as well, without the side effects, as the new drugs. Tell
your doctor that you want an old, cheap, diuretic ... if it does not kick
in, don't stop...try it for a month and see. In the mean time, eat
vegetables or vegetable sprouts to prevent it from getting worse.
http://www.iq-lab.com Also, try to find out WHY your blood pressure changed
Good luck
"Puddin' Man" <Pudding_Man@mail.com> wrote in message
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> Re: Hi Blood Pressure
>
> I figger numerous folks on this list have fought the "Hi Blood
> Pressure Wars".
>
> I am 57 yrs, 5'6", 136 lbs. My cholesterol was very low (160 or
> less) when checked maybe a year ago. Until about 2 years ago,
> I consistently got BP readings like 123/75.
>
> Now I'm getting 157-177 / 107-113.
>
> I hid the salt shakers and started taking garlic (1k mg, 3 times
> a day) about a week ago. Just got some Potassium Gluconate 99 mg:
> guess I'll take 1-3 of them per day. None of this has much helped
> so far.
>
> Any body know of other tricks with diet/supplements (save
> fasting)?
>
> How long should I fiddle diet/supplements with 160/110-type
> readings?
>
> I fear if I have to enlist my primary care doc to help, the
> following will transpire:
>
> 1.) Doc prescribes bleeding-edge drug costing an eyeball and
> a testicle. Doc collects office visit fee.
> 2.) Patient returns for new script, complains of hi pressure
> and/or side effects. Doc prescribes something else,
> collects office visit fees.
> 3.) Repeat 2.) ad nauseum.
>
> Can anyone suggest reasonably priced BP med(s) appropriate
> for such a situation? How does one handle docs who "Dwell
> In The Domain Of The Mega-Pharmaceutical Companies", writing
> for meds that not even the insurance companies wanna pay for?
>
> Thanx,
> Puddin'
>
> "The doctors, to a material extent, serve themselves (and not
> their patients)!"
>
> *******************************************************
> *** Puddin' Man Pudding_Man at mail.com ***
> *******************************************************;
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