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| Doug Goncz 2004-11-16, 4:06 am |
| I have had some success controlling the symptoms of my schizophrenia with The
Cat Food Diet: lots of turkey, tuna, and salmon, very low carb, and unlike a
cat's diet, reasonable helpings of low-density vegetables for bulk.
It started when I read about Tyrodep, an amino acid drink rich in tyrosine.
It's in research in England, definitely works for schizophrenics, and
apparently acts by populating the blood-brain barrier with amino acids,
reducing its permeability to the precursors of dopamine, or possibly to
dopamine. I don't know the metabolism.
You see, Leon Paparella at the Parkinson's Foundation explained to me in a
helpful conference about my role as my mother's son versus any role I might
play as her doctor giving her advice, that Parkinsonism is the opposite of
schizophrenia. Parkinson's patients experience loss of mental acuity and
schizophrenics experience hyperacuity. Parkinson's patients take dopamine to
upregulate their brain activity and IIUC my medication downregulates my brain
activity in the dopaminergic systems. Mom has to eat low protein and avoid
eating at the time of a dose. I eat my Cat Food with my meds.
I have a complaint about these meds. One of the negative symptoms of
schizophrenia is anhedonia. The meds worsen it while alleviating hyperacuity.
They do this by downregualting the communication betwee the limbic system,
which is the brain's perceptual preprocessor and *both* the cerebellum, where
the poorly processed perceptions are experienced as hyperacuity, and also the
frontal lobes, where these perceptions are experienced as emotion. It's a deal
with the devil, I tell you. I mean I now have a somewhat raised threshold of
perception, freeing my cerebellum to concentrate, but a raised threshold of
emotion, as well. So my affect remains a bit flat.
Anyway, when I first came home from MIT in 1979 I ate a diet of eggs, milk,
peanut butter, ham, cottage cheese and celery. I have now returned to this diet
form knowing it is best for me, no longer instinctively eating what I thought
would help. As for any global concerns about eating more than my share of
protien, and contributing to inefficiency in the distribution of our limited
food supply, I can say only "Meow." Buckminster Fuller lived on steak and I
*need* to eat *meat* to be healthy. Now steak really clogs your heart and my
blood fats are just great from eating The Cat Food Diet.
It's extremely expensive. Every morning I eat a turkey dinner with veg. It's
about $3.50 just for that. I've got a supply for cans of salmon at 12.8 cents
per ounce, and that will go a long way. For the backpack, there are the pouch
tuna (our troops love this, send them a care package), and cans with pop lids,
but it's a little hard to eat without mayo. I am spending a large portion of my
survivor's benefits on *food* and you might want to consider trying The Cat
Food Diet for a week, and reporting here. Just find sources of animal protien
that are palatable to you, reduce your carbs, and enjoy! See if it doesn't make
a difference for you; it certainly has for me.
Salmon salad: Salmon, mayo, eggs or shredded cheese if you have them, relish,
salt and pepper (I use high pottasium Morton's), and of course, plenty of
chopped celery to keep the stuff moving along.
Doug Goncz
I love: Dona, Jeff, Kim, Kimmie, Mom, Neelix, Tasha, and Teri, alphabetically.
I drive: A double-step Thunderbolt with 657% range.
I fight terrorism by: Using less gasoline.
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| Quiet Neighbor 2004-11-16, 11:06 am |
| Your diet sounds like Atkins.
Have you tried L-tyrosine?
" Doug Goncz " <dgoncz@aol.com> wrote in message
news:20041116045401.07592.00000860@mb-m01.aol.com...
> I have had some success controlling the symptoms of my schizophrenia with
The
> Cat Food Diet: lots of turkey, tuna, and salmon, very low carb, and unlike
a
> cat's diet, reasonable helpings of low-density vegetables for bulk.
>
> It started when I read about Tyrodep, an amino acid drink rich in
tyrosine.
> It's in research in England, definitely works for schizophrenics, and
> apparently acts by populating the blood-brain barrier with amino acids,
> reducing its permeability to the precursors of dopamine, or possibly to
> dopamine. I don't know the metabolism.
>
> You see, Leon Paparella at the Parkinson's Foundation explained to me in a
> helpful conference about my role as my mother's son versus any role I
might
> play as her doctor giving her advice, that Parkinsonism is the opposite of
> schizophrenia. Parkinson's patients experience loss of mental acuity and
> schizophrenics experience hyperacuity. Parkinson's patients take dopamine
to
> upregulate their brain activity and IIUC my medication downregulates my
brain
> activity in the dopaminergic systems. Mom has to eat low protein and avoid
> eating at the time of a dose. I eat my Cat Food with my meds.
>
> I have a complaint about these meds. One of the negative symptoms of
> schizophrenia is anhedonia. The meds worsen it while alleviating
hyperacuity.
> They do this by downregualting the communication betwee the limbic system,
> which is the brain's perceptual preprocessor and *both* the cerebellum,
where
> the poorly processed perceptions are experienced as hyperacuity, and also
the
> frontal lobes, where these perceptions are experienced as emotion. It's a
deal
> with the devil, I tell you. I mean I now have a somewhat raised threshold
of
> perception, freeing my cerebellum to concentrate, but a raised threshold
of
> emotion, as well. So my affect remains a bit flat.
>
> Anyway, when I first came home from MIT in 1979 I ate a diet of eggs,
milk,
> peanut butter, ham, cottage cheese and celery. I have now returned to this
diet
> form knowing it is best for me, no longer instinctively eating what I
thought
> would help. As for any global concerns about eating more than my share of
> protien, and contributing to inefficiency in the distribution of our
limited
> food supply, I can say only "Meow." Buckminster Fuller lived on steak and
I
> *need* to eat *meat* to be healthy. Now steak really clogs your heart and
my
> blood fats are just great from eating The Cat Food Diet.
>
> It's extremely expensive. Every morning I eat a turkey dinner with veg.
It's
> about $3.50 just for that. I've got a supply for cans of salmon at 12.8
cents
> per ounce, and that will go a long way. For the backpack, there are the
pouch
> tuna (our troops love this, send them a care package), and cans with pop
lids,
> but it's a little hard to eat without mayo. I am spending a large portion
of my
> survivor's benefits on *food* and you might want to consider trying The
Cat
> Food Diet for a week, and reporting here. Just find sources of animal
protien
> that are palatable to you, reduce your carbs, and enjoy! See if it doesn't
make
> a difference for you; it certainly has for me.
>
> Salmon salad: Salmon, mayo, eggs or shredded cheese if you have them,
relish,
> salt and pepper (I use high pottasium Morton's), and of course, plenty of
> chopped celery to keep the stuff moving along.
>
>
> Doug Goncz
> I love: Dona, Jeff, Kim, Kimmie, Mom, Neelix, Tasha, and Teri,
alphabetically.
> I drive: A double-step Thunderbolt with 657% range.
> I fight terrorism by: Using less gasoline.
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| Doug Goncz 2004-11-17, 11:06 am |
| >From: "Quiet Neighbor" private@spamless.com
>Your diet sounds like Atkins.
Yes, only I use lighter proteins and some low-density veg.
>Have you tried L-tyrosine?
>
>
No, I haven't. That's one component of Tyrodep, isn't it? Aside from sales
literature I did find this:
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1: Clin Neuropharmacol. 1994 Feb;17(1):53-62. Related Articles, Links
L-tyrosine pharmacotherapy of schizophrenia: preliminary data.
Deutsch SI, Rosse RB, Schwartz BL, Banay-Schwartz M, McCarthy MF, Johri SK.
Department of Veterans Affairs Medical Center, Psychiatry Service, Washington,
DC 20422.
The utility of L-tyrosine (10 g/day in four divided doses) as an adjuvant to
molindone (150 mg/day) in the treatment of schizophrenia was investigated using
a placebo-controlled, double-blind crossover design (3 weeks on L-tyrosine, 3
weeks on placebo). The objective of this inpatient study was to increase
dopaminergic neural transmission along mesocortical projections in patients by
increasing the precursor availability of L-tyrosine for dopamine biosynthesis.
Theoretically, this approach might lessen both negative and positive symptoms
of schizophrenia and improve frontal lobe-mediated neuropsychological
performance. There was no evidence of statistically significant improvement
conferred by L-tyrosine as measured by weekly Brief Psychiatric Rating Scale
(BPRS), Schedule for the Assessment of Negative Symptoms (SANS), or Clinical
Global Impressions (CGI) scales. The 12-h trough plasma level of L-tyrosine was
significantly higher in all patients during the L-tyrosine phase of the study
(t = -3.9, df = 20, p = 0.0009). At the end of each 3-week study period, no
significant differences could be found in Wisconsin Card Sorting Test (WCST) or
memory test performance. Smooth-pursuit eye movement (SPEM) performance had
significantly more saccadic intrusions during the L-tyrosine supplementation
phase compared to the placebo period. This increase in saccades during SPEM
suggests that the tyrosine supplementation might have had some central effect.
Publication Types:
Clinical Trial
Randomized Controlled Trial
PMID: 8149360 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
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Have any Dear Readers tried Tyrosine? I leave off the L because all life
chemicals are Laevorotatory.
Doug Goncz
I love: Dona, Jeff, Kim, Kimmie, Mom, Neelix, Tasha, and Teri, alphabetically.
I drive: A double-step Thunderbolt with 657% range.
I fight terrorism by: Using less gasoline.
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| Hi Doug, http://www.vrp.com/ has information on Tyrosine. They sell it
in capsule form and as a powder. They have a product called Blast-Off
which has phenylalanine and tyrosine. They say phenylalanine is
converted by the body into tyrosine. jrclark
Doug Goncz wrote:
>
>
> No, I haven't. That's one component of Tyrodep, isn't it? Aside from
sales
> literature I did find this:
>
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
> 1: Clin Neuropharmacol. 1994 Feb;17(1):53-62. Related Articles, Links
> L-tyrosine pharmacotherapy of schizophrenia: preliminary data.
> .............................This increase in saccades during SPEM
> suggests that the tyrosine supplementation might have had some
central
> effect.
> Doug Goncz
> I love: Dona, Jeff, Kim, Kimmie, Mom, Neelix, Tasha, and Teri,
> alphabetically.
> I drive: A double-step Thunderbolt with 657% range.
> I fight terrorism by: Using less gasoline.
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| TohuVohu 2004-11-18, 11:06 am |
| >I have had some success controlling the symptoms of my schizophrenia with The
>Cat Food Diet: lots of turkey, tuna, and salmon, very low carb, and unlike a
>cat's diet, reasonable helpings of low-density vegetables for bulk.
interesting. i might try this.
there was some speculation years ago that schizophrenics suffered from food
allergies, in some cases, wheat allergies. in fact, the orthomolecular
approaches typically stem from ideas about depletion or food sensitivities. i
definitely feel loopy after eating too much bread, but that may be the
conversion to glucose.
michael
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| TohuVohu 2004-11-18, 11:06 am |
| >Have any Dear Readers tried Tyrosine? I leave off the L because all life
>chemicals are Laevorotatory.
i didn't know that. certainly the receptors are often chiral, but can respond
to dextro stereoisomers, e.g. D-methamphetamine. while the L-methamphetamine
is a light nasal spray.
michael
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