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VectorLinux install?
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| Chesucat 2004-10-31, 2:06 am |
| I am thinking about installing VectorLinux SOHO 4.0 on my old computer,
it's a Pentium II MMX with 128MB of RAM, a 6GB hdd, a US Robotic 56K Fax
internal modem on COM 3, a Creative AWE64 16-bit audio card
(SB16 compatible). I thought about just installing it all on the hdd and
forgetting about Windows98SE for awhile. The only Windows app that I need
is my 'Passwords Safe', but I could check if the make version of for
Linux, if not I could run under Wine or something. I will have to
download it from brother-in-law's DSL connection, the .iso is pretty big!
Then I have run md5 on on the .iso file, then burn it as an raw image to
a blank CD using `cdrecord <something> something` and then I have to
install it and configure it, so that everything works, INCLUDING sound!
If I were a rich man, I would just buy me a G5 IMAC and be done with
stinkin' pee cees forever, but alas, I am not! Who know, maybe someday?!
<chesucat ponders>
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| I haven't tried linux in a few years, but on a Pentium II it seemed to run
at a decent speed. Just watch out for starting a recent version of KDE or
Gnome though on a Pentium II. Icewm or fvwm would be zippy enough, though.
Chesucat wrote:
> I am thinking about installing VectorLinux SOHO 4.0 on my old computer,
> it's a Pentium II MMX with 128MB of RAM, a 6GB hdd, a US Robotic 56K Fax
> internal modem on COM 3, a Creative AWE64 16-bit audio card
> (SB16 compatible). I thought about just installing it all on the hdd and
> forgetting about Windows98SE for awhile. The only Windows app that I need
> is my 'Passwords Safe', but I could check if the make version of for
> Linux, if not I could run under Wine or something. I will have to
> download it from brother-in-law's DSL connection, the .iso is pretty big!
> Then I have run md5 on on the .iso file, then burn it as an raw image to
> a blank CD using `cdrecord <something> something` and then I have to
> install it and configure it, so that everything works, INCLUDING sound!
> If I were a rich man, I would just buy me a G5 IMAC and be done with
> stinkin' pee cees forever, but alas, I am not! Who know, maybe someday?!
>
> <chesucat ponders>
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| gravity 2004-10-31, 2:06 am |
| Chesucat wrote:
> I am thinking about installing VectorLinux SOHO 4.0 on my old computer,
> it's a Pentium II MMX with 128MB of RAM, a 6GB hdd, a US Robotic 56K Fax
> internal modem on COM 3, a Creative AWE64 16-bit audio card
> (SB16 compatible).
that should work fine, except for the USR, which may be a winmodem. the
6 gig will be plenty for Vector 4.0 regular with an install size of 650
meg. SOHO may be bigger, probably a gig or more since it has KDE and/or
Gnome.
> I thought about just installing it all on the hdd and
> forgetting about Windows98SE for awhile.
if it has windows on it, you can resize the partition with BootItNG or
fips. the only gotcha might be if you have a power outage during the
resizing. 6 gigs is enough for windows and linux to coexist.
> The only Windows app that I need
> is my 'Passwords Safe', but I could check if the make version of for
> Linux, if not I could run under Wine or something.
yes it will probably run if it's a simple application. just cp -r the
files over to the fake c drive under WINE.
>I will have to
> download it from brother-in-law's DSL connection, the .iso is pretty big!
you may want to download it in segments on dialup. using wget -c would
work. or DSL will work. i would recommend using the current version
4.3. the problem with SOHO is that the maintainer no longer works on
Vector linux. so SOHO past 4.0 or 4.3 doesn't exist.
there is another option. that's to download BootItNG and make a floppy.
boot up and resize the windows partition. then either mount the
Vector iso as a loop device, or if it's a simple zip file, just extract
the contents to c:\veclinux. then make a boot floppy with rawrite3 and
boot to the vector installer. then Vector will mount the FAT32
partition and find veclinux.bz2. this is tricky, but that's how i
installed mine cause i had a bad CDROM. no DSL, no CDRW needed.
another option for finding install media is to purchase cd's from
cheapbytes.com.
> Then I have run md5 on on the .iso file, then burn it as an raw image to
> a blank CD using `cdrecord <something> something`
i can't get cdrecord to work on windows because i have a USB CDRW. i
use cdrecord on linux though.
>and then I have to
> install it and configure it, so that everything works, INCLUDING sound!
a lot of it will be configured during the install and kernel modules
loaded at boot time. very little will have to be configured by hand.
> If I were a rich man, I would just buy me a G5 IMAC and be done with
> stinkin' pee cees forever, but alas, I am not! Who know, maybe someday?!
>
once i start working again, i may purchase an imac or emac (the cheaper
one of the two). they run about $800. not too bad when you consider
286's cost $2000 just 15 years ago.
the linode address is dead, but i'll post my new email in a few days.
michael
> <chesucat ponders>
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| gravity 2004-10-31, 2:06 am |
| Eddie wrote:
> I haven't tried linux in a few years, but on a Pentium II it seemed to run
> at a decent speed. Just watch out for starting a recent version of KDE or
> Gnome though on a Pentium II. Icewm or fvwm would be zippy enough, though.
>
i use Ion3 and IceWM. KDE is a bit bloated for 128 meg RAM. there is a
lightweight desktop environment, i think it's called XFCE. supposedly
it's full-featured, but will still run well on older machines.
the OP might look into Gnome as it should be lighter than KDE.
michael
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| I have used icewm and blueice or blueice2 as a theme for six years.
Sometimes Monte-carlo or Warp3x as a theme. XFCE is a scaled down copy of
CDE (from Solaris 8), and it is really nice too, and lightweight. I have
noticed a speed difference between Gnome and KDE. Gnome must be 25% faster.
The funny thing about KDE is that I don't remember KDE 1 (from 2000)
seeming very slow on a 380 MHz or 233 MHz Pentium II. It must have gotten
slower as it kept being developed. I mean it wasn't as fast as icewm ever,
but it wasn't that big a difference.
gravity wrote:
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> i use Ion3 and IceWM. KDE is a bit bloated for 128 meg RAM. there is a
> lightweight desktop environment, i think it's called XFCE. supposedly
> it's full-featured, but will still run well on older machines.
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> the OP might look into Gnome as it should be lighter than KDE.
>
> michael
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| gravity 2004-10-31, 4:06 am |
| Eddie wrote:
> I have used icewm and blueice or blueice2 as a theme for six years.
> Sometimes Monte-carlo or Warp3x as a theme. XFCE is a scaled down copy of
> CDE (from Solaris 8), and it is really nice too, and lightweight. I have
> noticed a speed difference between Gnome and KDE. Gnome must be 25% faster.
> The funny thing about KDE is that I don't remember KDE 1 (from 2000)
> seeming very slow on a 380 MHz or 233 MHz Pentium II. It must have gotten
> slower as it kept being developed. I mean it wasn't as fast as icewm ever,
> but it wasn't that big a difference.
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i don't remember it being so bloated either. my first linux machine was
an old Pentium 120 mhz with 16 meg RAM. i ran Slack 4 (?), and later
Redhat 6.2, 7.2, and 7.3.
i think KDE 3 really got bloated. they are trying to make it
easy-to-use like windows, which is an admirable goal. but it requires a
lot of resources.
i noticed my concentration wasn't good unless i used several workspaces
or virtual desktops. so i switched to Ion3 window manager which is
keyboard controlled. i can surf and use the mouse to control windows,
but i usually use the keypad and text mode programs. i'm finding i can
concentrate better by keeping everything on a separate workspace. it's
also low on resources. Ion is really nifty, but not for everyone.
michael
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| I like using non-Windows OSes (linux or bsd) because you get to use whatever
window manager you want. My first non-Windows installation was on a 233 MHz
Pentium II with Redhat 5.1. I am glad tomorrow is not the start of Daylight
savings time. That is miserable for two weeks on Risperdal! Jet lag is
easier. Now I get to go to bed an hour early and conk out almost instantly.
gravity wrote:
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> i don't remember it being so bloated either. my first linux machine was
> an old Pentium 120 mhz with 16 meg RAM. i ran Slack 4 (?), and later
> Redhat 6.2, 7.2, and 7.3.
>
> i think KDE 3 really got bloated. they are trying to make it
> easy-to-use like windows, which is an admirable goal. but it requires a
> lot of resources.
>
> i noticed my concentration wasn't good unless i used several workspaces
> or virtual desktops. so i switched to Ion3 window manager which is
> keyboard controlled. i can surf and use the mouse to control windows,
> but i usually use the keypad and text mode programs. i'm finding i can
> concentrate better by keeping everything on a separate workspace. it's
> also low on resources. Ion is really nifty, but not for everyone.
>
> michael
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